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by Tropylium
November 16th, 2015, 8:08 pm
Forum: Other Cellular Automata
Topic: 23/3/3
Replies: 9
Views: 6940

Re: 23/3/3

A word of advice. Generations rules without B2 generally aren't interesting This is a bit overstated (sort of in the same way as "Life-like rules with B2 generally aren't interesting"); there are plenty of interesting A2 Generations rules, though you usually need to set up some more aggressive birt...
by Tropylium
November 16th, 2015, 7:51 pm
Forum: Other Cellular Automata
Topic: B1/S45678 and B2/S45678
Replies: 1
Views: 2653

Re: B1/S45678 and B2/S45678

This type of behavior is shared by quite a few rules in the same region. One interesting variant is B28, which creates "tunnels" instead of "crystals", for a quilt-like final result. There are also "block-filling rules", i.e. variants on B1/S34. These tend to quickly stabilize to crystals built from...
by Tropylium
November 16th, 2015, 6:56 pm
Forum: Website Discussion
Topic: Forum/wiki integration
Replies: 13
Views: 13732

Forum/wiki integration

It's clear that LifeWiki and LifeForum are two important prongs of the current CGOL community, but I suspect they could be closer to each other yet. An initial suggestion: would it be possible to create here a [wiki][/wiki] tag that would automatically generate links to LifeWiki in forum posts? I.e....
by Tropylium
November 16th, 2015, 6:50 pm
Forum: Other Cellular Automata
Topic: Reverse rule-finding
Replies: 7
Views: 5490

Re: Reverse rule-finding

OP's question, reframed: – A Life-like CA is defined by the presence of some birth/survival conditions and the absense of others. – Any pattern (spaceship, oscillator, etc.) in a Life-like CA will require some of these conditions to function, but not necessarily all. For example, a blinker will only...
by Tropylium
November 16th, 2015, 6:24 pm
Forum: Other Cellular Automata
Topic: X-Rule
Replies: 114
Views: 72832

Re: X-Rule

I'm attempting to make sense of the precise motivation behind X-Rule and its "precedessor" (alphabetic ordering of transition environments is terrible for this!), but it's apparent that this is, in terms of its grown type, a more heavily "de-totalized" version of the SansDomino rule class . The smal...
by Tropylium
November 16th, 2015, 5:12 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Question: Guns that can be pointed in a direction?
Replies: 10
Views: 9613

Re: Question: Guns that can be pointed in a direction?

You guys should sticky a thread for people just getting caught up with where the field is today. Which field? [liѕt] Let's subgroup that a bit further: ENGINEERING Glider synthesis Glider color and phase, relating to reflections Construction with slow salvos (p2, monochromatic, mod N, etc.) One-tim...
by Tropylium
November 16th, 2015, 1:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Knuth's conjecture about CGoL
Replies: 2
Views: 4697

Re: Knuth's conjecture about CGoL

The two SW-most octants (including the diagonal (x+y = 1) are trivial; everything sufficiently far away NE, starting with (1, 1) being 4, follows from the c/4 diagonal speed limit theorem. That doesn't seem to leave a whole lot of edge cases really.
by Tropylium
November 14th, 2015, 10:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Project Alias
Replies: 30
Views: 28527

Re: Project Alias

This is not quite the same as naming individual patterns, but, two terms for families of still lifes that I have kind-of proposed on LifeWiki sometime ago: 1) the family {tub, barge, long barge…; boat, long boat, long long boat…; ship, long ship, long long ship…} I call vessels ; 2) the family {snak...
by Tropylium
November 14th, 2015, 8:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How does one start creating stuff here?
Replies: 25
Views: 21186

Re: How does one start creating stuff here?

That is a real problem with the state of modern-day Life. It might be useful to have a "User's manual to Life" that contains all the information one needs to start contributing at a high level. The Life wiki's a great start, perhaps that could be leveraged? Good idea. The problem is getting anyone ...
by Tropylium
November 14th, 2015, 7:49 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Soup propagation distance
Replies: 18
Views: 22960

Re: Soup propagation distance

As far as I've looked into this matter before (or some concepts resembling it), soup propagation speed in Life is almost always lightspeed for connected clusters of cells, and dominated by cluster growth rate outside of them. This makes things very sensitive to the "cloud count" and geometry of the ...
by Tropylium
November 14th, 2015, 7:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Uber Breeders?
Replies: 3
Views: 3856

Re: Uber Breeders?

To use a hyperbolic plane, one would need to set up a new system of nearest neighbors, and the rule would no longer be the well-researched Life we know.. Perhaps 4-coordinated pentagonal, or 3-coordinated heptagonal or octagonal rules on hyperbolic geometry would do incredible things.. I've done so...
by Tropylium
December 18th, 2014, 12:42 am
Forum: Other Cellular Automata
Topic: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL
Replies: 883
Views: 547870

Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

A small 2c/205 spaceship in a Generations rule.

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = 2378/34/3
3A$2BA$2BA$3A!
by Tropylium
December 15th, 2014, 1:56 am
Forum: Other Cellular Automata
Topic: Proof Sought: B34/S23-ish still lifes
Replies: 0
Views: 2918

Proof Sought: B34/S23-ish still lifes

Rules that are approximately B34/S23, possibly with some additional higher-end birth/survival conditions (B7, B8, S7, S8), have the interesting trait that they allow still lifes — but only a seemingly finite variety. (Life-like rules of this family are explosive in character, but in Generations they...
by Tropylium
November 28th, 2014, 4:42 pm
Forum: Other Cellular Automata
Topic: Very nearly exploding rules
Replies: 189
Views: 105495

Re: Very nearly exploding rules

I was also searching for very nearly exploding rules with S1 (but without S2). I tried some rules with S13 and eventually found B3578/S0138 to be the best rule of this type. The Sidewinder works here, as well as more exotic ships. This is a pretty good case, yes. The rule seems to have a very clear...
by Tropylium
November 28th, 2014, 3:26 pm
Forum: Other Cellular Automata
Topic: Rules with multiple chaotic phases
Replies: 4
Views: 3140

Rules with multiple chaotic phases

A weird thing I noticed in B124/S34 recently. (Much of these effects will work in plain B12/S3 too.) This is one of the 2×2 rules, where any pattern separated in 2×2 on/off segments will continue to evolve as such. And adding a small perturbation in a 2×2 area will quickly devolve into regular chaos...
by Tropylium
November 27th, 2014, 7:04 pm
Forum: Patterns
Topic: Thread for your newbie questions
Replies: 7
Views: 5016

Re: Thread for your newbie questions

Nice classifications... I think I'll refer from these classifications from later on. For now, it's more of a typology. The list doesn't really cover all "non-trivial" oscillators, nor does it create a clean ranking. I think sticking with the old definitions and rather developing the "engine" concep...
by Tropylium
November 27th, 2014, 5:07 pm
Forum: Patterns
Topic: Interesting Fractal Pattern
Replies: 12
Views: 16628

Re: Interesting Fractal Pattern

Extrementhusiast wrote:
simsim314 wrote:While ago I've designed Serpinsky glider gun
Slight variation on that:
New project proposal: a puffer that creates an infinite series of either of these ;)
by Tropylium
November 27th, 2014, 11:20 am
Forum: Patterns
Topic: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries
Replies: 2050
Views: 1415321

Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Junk gets pushed 3 cells in 27 generations:

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x = 19, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
14.C2.D$13.C.CD.D$15.C2.D$12.3C3D$3.A9.C2.D$3.3A$A.2A.2A$A2.A2.A$4.2A
2$.A.A$2.2A!
Expensive glider support for regenerating this would probably be possible.
by Tropylium
November 24th, 2014, 9:45 pm
Forum: Patterns
Topic: Soup search results
Replies: 2589
Views: 1898321

Re: Soup search results

I wanted to combine two to cancel out some of their debris and maybe make a spaceship similar in style to the early Corderships, but I could only find two reactions that really did anything: Here are other two: And for completeness, a fifth reaction is: x = 33, y = 18, rule = B3/S23 20bo7bo$19b3o5b...
by Tropylium
November 24th, 2014, 9:03 pm
Forum: Patterns
Topic: Soup search results
Replies: 2589
Views: 1898321

Re: Soup search results

Flyby conversions:

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x = 22, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
18bo$17bobo$14bo$13bo4b2o$12b2o4bobo$13b2o2bo2b2o$14bo2bo2bo$18b2o2$
18b2o$14bo2bo2bo$13b2o2bo2b2o$12b2o4bobo$13bo4b2o$14bo$17bobo$18bo2$b
2o4b2o4b2o$o2bo2bobo4bobo$b2o4bo6bo!
by Tropylium
November 24th, 2014, 5:22 pm
Forum: Patterns
Topic: New 8200-generation Methuselah
Replies: 10
Views: 8136

Re: New 8200-generation Methuselah

Maybe it's because I'm new, but it's not clear to me what I should get excited about and what is considered unimpressive. For example, is a 8x6, initial pop = 11, generations = 15000 more or less impressive than 11x4, initial pop 10, generations = 15000? No idea how those stack against one another,...
by Tropylium
November 24th, 2014, 4:49 pm
Forum: Patterns
Topic: Interesting Fractal Pattern
Replies: 12
Views: 16628

Re: Interesting Fractal Pattern

I've been noticing whenever I put a fractal into the game of life, it either comes out with nothing.... or if tweaked just right, it can come out with a ton more population. Does this happen for all fractals? You seem to be using some non-standard definition of "fractal". The files you posted are s...
by Tropylium
November 24th, 2014, 3:51 pm
Forum: Patterns
Topic: Thread for your newbie questions
Replies: 7
Views: 5016

Re: Thread for your newbie questions

1) I'm not sure if this should be considered as a p2 combo or a new rotor. The rotor is basically 2 copies of the spark coil, but the stators of the spark coil cannot be welded into sth like this. x = 10, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 b2o4bo$bobo2bobo$3bo2bo2bo$2bob2ob2o$2bob2obo$b2o4bo$o2bo2bo$bobo2bobo $2...
by Tropylium
September 30th, 2014, 1:09 pm
Forum: Patterns
Topic: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries
Replies: 4536
Views: 1752674

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

By the way, can anybody build a p420 2c/5 gun? That would require speeding up the assembly itself a little bit. The current synthesis scheme just barely cannot handle being squeezed to p420 (the limit is p427). I haven't looked if this could be fixed just by tightening the salvos a little though or...
by Tropylium
September 29th, 2014, 4:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: apgsearch: a high-performance soup searcher
Replies: 147
Views: 138340

Re: apgsearch: a high-performance soup searcher

...which made me think, how long until we start seeing soups which produce the c/7 loafer etc. in Life? I would guess somewhere between 10^11 and 10^13 soups. Also, anyone got any guesses as to what the next 'natural' spaceship (after glider, *WSS and combinations of 2 interaction *WSSs) will be? U...