Ski Life (B3-k/S23-i)

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Ski Life (B3-k/S23-i)

Post by Dylan Chen » January 31st, 2021, 5:39 am

Brief Introduction

B3-k/S23-i is a rule that has 2 transitions from life. Nickname 'Ski Life'.

It got name 'spin-ki' at first, due to the common occurance of a p8 spinner, and the 'ki' indicate the different point to Life.
  • This rule have gliders, but no XWSS.
  • Most spaceships from life cannot survive in this rule, except Copperhead.
  • The rule have nature 3c/21d, c/6d, and c/15.
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Re: Spin-ki Life (B3-k/S23-i)

Post by Dylan Chen » January 31st, 2021, 6:13 am

This is a thread summarize everything about 'spin-ki'.
Most of the important information would be updated in this post.

Spaceships:
nature occured
searched
constructed
no found

orthogonal: c/2 2c/5 c/3 c/4 c/5 c/6 c/15
diagonal:c/4d c/5d c/6d 3c/21d c/12d

Code: Select all

x = 329, y = 168, rule = B3-k/S23-i
19$280b2o23b2o$279b2obo21bob2o$278bo3b2o19b2o3bo$277b4o3bo17bo3b4o$
279b3ob2o17b2ob3o$277bo4bo2bo15bo2bo4bo$278b6o19b6o$281bo4b3o9b3o4bo$
277b2o2b6o2bo7bo2b6o2b2o$279bo7b2ob2o3b2ob2o7bo$278b2o5b2obo9bob2o5b2o
$284bo7bobo7bo$278bo5b4obo2bobo2bob4o5bo$292bobo$278b4o3bo6bobo6bo3b4o
$280b2o3bo3b3o3b3o3bo3b2o$281bo6bo2bo3bo2bo6bo$279bo27bo$279bo10b2o3b
2o10bo$280bo8b2o5b2o8bo$278b2o9b3o3b3o9b2o$279b2o7b2o2bobo2b2o7b2o2$
279b2o6b4o5b4o6b2o$278bobo5bo2bo7bo2bo5bobo$281bo3b3o11b3o3bo$278bo5bo
17bo5bo$282b2obo15bob2o$285bo15bo$281bo3bo15bo3bo$280b2o3bo15bo3b2o$
279b3o2b3o13b3o2b3o$289b3o3b3o$279bo6bo2bobo3bobo2bo6bo$289bo2bobo2bo$
290b2o3b2o$289bo7bo$288b2o7b2o$288b3o5b3o$290bo5bo$287b2ob2o3b2ob2o$
285b2o3bo5bo3b2o$284bo5bo5bo5bo$283bo2b3o9b3o2bo$282b2o19b2o$282b2ob2o
13b2ob2o2$285bobo11bobo$286b2o11b2o$286b3o9b3o$289b2o5b2o$288bo2bo3bo
2bo$287b2o2bo3bo2b2o$290bo5bo$287b3o2b3o2b3o$287bobo7bobo$288b2o2bobo
2b2o$288b2o2bobo2b2o$289b3o3b3o$290bobo2b2o$116b2o173b3obo$112bob2o2b
2obo26b2o138bobo3b2o$111b2o8b2o21b3ob2ob3o133bob4obo$110b2obobo2bobob
2o19bo10bo132bo4bobobo$108b2ob2o8b2ob2o18b2o6b2o26bob2ob3ob2obo99bo3b
2o$107bo6b6o6bo20b4o28b2o2bobobobo2b2o93b2obobo4b2o$106b2obo2bobo4bobo
2bob2o20b2o28b3obo7bob3o92b2obo8bo$107bobo2bobo4bobo2bobo20b4o28bo3bo
5bo3bo37bobo5bobo44b3o2b2ob2o3b2o$107bo2b2o2bob2obo2b2o2bo16b2obo4bob
2o30b3o41b3o2b2ob2o2b3o46bobo2b2o2b2o$110bobo8bobo19b2o8b2o27b3o3b3o
42bobobobo51bobobobo2bo$107b2obobo8bobob2o15bo2bo6bo2bo22b3o2bo5bo2b3o
40bobo61bo$110bobobo4bobobo23b4o27b3obo7bob3o39b2ob2o50b3o3b3o$110bobo
b2o2b2obobo22b2o2b2o27bob2o7b2obo36b4obobob4o46bobo2bobo$110bobo8bobo
23b4o31bo7bo39bob3o3b3obo50b3o$109b2obobob2obobob2o23b2o31bo9bo39b2o7b
2o52bo$109b2obo8bob2o2$34bo49bo4bo$33b3o47bobo2bobo$31bo51b3o2b3o$31b
3obo46bobo4bobo$61bobo19bo6bo$31b3o27b3o$31bobo26bo$58b2o2bo$59bobo$
58b2o3$291bo3bo2$233bo3bo55bo$114bo2bo28bobobo35bobo$235bo55bo3bo$186b
obo$233bo3bo!


Oscillators:
nature occured in C1
occured in other symmetry(including ikpx2)
searched
no found

period: 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 15 20 24 36 40

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x = 349, y = 327, rule = B3-k/S23-i
8bob2o$8b2obo18b2ob2o$12b2o15bobobobo27b2o2bo$13bo15b2o3b2o25b3ob2obo$
12bo15bo7bo23bo6bo$12b2o46bo2b2o2bo$10b2o15bo3bobo3bo21b2obo2bo2bo$11b
o15bo3bobo3bo21bo2bo2bob2o$10bo16bo3bobo3bo22bo2b2o2bo$10b2o19bobo26bo
6bo$8b2o49bob2ob3o$9bo18bo7bo23bo2b2o$8bo19bobo3bobo$8b2o19b2o3b2o25$
6b2obo117b2obo7b2obo67b2o4b2o70b2obo5b2o$6bob2o117bob2o7bob2o18b2o4b2o
41bob4obo70bob2o6bo$4b2o4b2o119b2o3b2o4b2o16bob4obo42b6o75b2o3bo$4bo5b
o20b2o98bo4bo5bo18b6o44b4o76bo4b2o$5bo5bo18bo2bo98bo4bo5bo18b4o126bo$
4b2o4b2o17bo4bo96b2o3b2o4b2o147b2o3b2o$6b2obo18b2ob2ob2o91b2obo5bo5bo
12b5o8b5o30b2o6bo75b2obo6bo$6bob2o19b2o2b2o92bob2o6bo5bo59bobo4bobo74b
ob2o5bo$4b2o4b2o113b2o9b2o4b2o60b3o2bo2bo78b2o3b2o$4bo5bo114bo10bo5bo
61b3o3b2o79bo$5bo5bo114bo10bo5bo11b5o8b5o31b3o85bo3b2o$4b2o4b2o113b2o
9b2o4b2o60b3o84b2o4bo$6b2obo117b2obo7b2obo20b4o37bobo81b2obo5bo$6bob2o
117bob2o7bob2o19b6o36b2o82bob2o5b2o$160bob4obo$160b2o4b2o15$127b2obo6b
2obo$127bob2o6bob2o$2o5b2obo120b2o8b2o$bo5bob2o120bo9bo$o4b2o4b2o119bo
9bo$2o3bo5bo65b2o4b2o46b2o8b2o$6bo5bo43b2o19bob4obo42b2obo6b2obo$2o3b
2o4b2o22b2o3b2o14b2o20b6o43bob2o6bob2o$bo3bo5bo23b2o3b2o14b2o16b2o3b4o
3b2o37b2o8b2o$o5bo5bo22b2o3b2o14b3o15bobo8bobo37bo9bo$2o3b2o4b2o21b3o
3b3o13b3o16b3o6b3o39bo9bo$5bo5bo22b3o3b3o13b2o17b3o6b3o38b2o8b2o$2o4bo
5bo22b2o3b2o14b2o17b3o6b3o40b2obo6b2obo146b2obo6b2obo$bo3b2o4b2o22b2o
3b2o14b2o17b3o6b3o40bob2o6bob2o146bob2o6bob2o$o6b2obo24b2o3b2o32bobo8b
obo203b2o2b2o$2o5bob2o63b2o3b4o3b2o203bo3bo$78b6o208bo3bo$77bob4obo
206b2o2b2o$77b2o4b2o202b2obo6b2obo$287bob2o6bob2o$291b2o8b2o$291bo9bo$
292bo9bo$291b2o8b2o$287b2obo6b2obo$287bob2o6bob2o14$128b2obo4b2o3b2o$
2o4b2obo118bob2o4b2o3b2o$bo4bob2o27bo94b2o$o9b2o23b2obo93bo3b2o3b2o$2o
8bo24bo2bo94bo2bobobobo$11bo23bob4o91b2o4bobo$2o8b2o20b3o93b2obo5b2obo
$bo4b2obo22bo95bob2o9b2o$o5bob2o21bo2bo91b2o14bo$2o2b2o26b3o91bo14bo$
4bo29bo92bo13b2o$2o3bo28bo91b2o14bo144b2obo6b2obo$bo2b2o122b2obo9bo
145bob2o6bob2o$o5b2obo118bob2o9b2o148b2o2b2o$2o4bob2o281bo3bo44bo4b3o$
292bo3bo42bobo6bo$291b2o2b2o41bobo4b3o$287b2obo6b2obo36bobo$287bob2o6b
ob2o37bo5bo$291b2o2b2o4b2o40bobo$291bo3bo5bo40bobo$292bo3bo5bo38bobo$
291b2o2b2o4b2o34bobo2bo$287b2obo6b2obo36bobo$287bob2o6bob2o36bobo$338b
o14$2o3b2o3b2o$bo3b2o3b2o$o$2o3b2o3b2o$5bobobobo$2o5bobo$bo4b2obo$o9b
2o$2o9bo$10bo116b2obo6bob2o$2o8b2o115bob2o6b2obo$bo9bo119b2o2b2o$o9bo
120bo4bo$2o8b2o120bo2bo150b2o3b2o4b2obo$131b2o2b2o149b2o3b2o4bob2o$
127b2obo6bob2o154b2o4b2o$127bob2o6b2obo145b2o3b2o2bo5bo$125b2o14b2o
143bobobobo3bo5bo$125bo16bo145bobo4b2o4b2o$126bo14bo145b2obo4bo5bo$
125b2o14b2o148b2o3bo5bo$127b2obo6bob2o151bo2b2o4b2o$127bob2o6b2obo150b
o3bo5bo$291b2o3bo5bo$292bo2b2o4b2o$291bo5b2obo$291b2o4bob2o14$2o5bob2o
$bo5b2obo$o4b2o$2o4bo$5bo$2o3b2o$bo5bob2o$o6b2obo$2o9b2o$12bo$2o9bo$bo
9b2o$o6bob2o$2o5b2obo2$127b2obo6b2obo$127bob2o6bob2o$131b2o2b2o$131bo
3bo$132bo3bo$131b2o2b2o$127b2obo6b2obo145b2o3b2o4b2obo$127bob2o6bob2o
145b2o3b2o4bob2o$125b2o8b2o4b2o158b2o$125bo9bo5bo144b2o3b2o8bo$126bo9b
o5bo143bobobobo9bo$125b2o8b2o4b2o145bobo10b2o$127b2obo6b2obo146b2obo6b
2obo$127bob2o6bob2o150b2o4bob2o$292bo2b2o$291bo3bo$291b2o3bo$292bo2b2o
$291bo5b2obo$291b2o4bob2o6$2o5b2obo$bo5bob2o$o4b2o$2o3bo39b2o$6bo37bob
2o$2o3b2o37b2ob3o$bo5b2obo36bo2bo$o6bob2o30b2o5b3o$2o3b2o4b2o27bobo$5b
o5bo28b2o$2o4bo5bo28b3o$bo3b2o4b2o29bobo$o6b2obo31bobo$2o5bob2o32b2o
12$286b2o3b2o4b2obo$286b2o3b2o4bob2o$295b2o$127b2obo6b2obo145b2o3b2o2b
o$127bob2o6bob2o145bobobobo3bo$131b2o2b2o4b2o145bobo4b2o$131bo3bo5bo
145b2obo6b2obo$132bo3bo5bo148b2o4bob2o$131b2o2b2o4b2o149bo8b2o$2o3bob
2o118b2obo6b2obo150bo9bo$bo3b2obo118bob2o6bob2o150b2o9bo$o8b2o114b2o
14b2o149bo8b2o$2o8bo114bo15bo149bo5b2obo$9bo116bo15bo148b2o4bob2o$2o7b
2o114b2o14b2o$bo5b2o118b2obo6b2obo$o7bo118bob2o6bob2o$2o5bo$7b2o$2o3b
2o$bo4bo$o4bo$2o3b2o19$47bo3bo$47bo3bo236b2obo4b2o3b2o$2o5b2obo36bo3bo
74b2obo6b2obo148bob2o4b2o3b2o$bo5bob2o36bo3bo74bob2o6bob2o146b2o4b2o$o
4b2o4b2o34bo3bo78b2o2b2o4b2o144bo5bo3b2o3b2o$2o3bo5bo118bo3bo5bo146bo
5bo2bobobobo$6bo5bo118bo3bo5bo144b2o4b2o4bobo$2o3b2o4b2o29bo13bo73b2o
2b2o4b2o146b2obo5b2obo$bo5b2obo30bob4o5b4obo68b2obo4bo5bo147bob2o9b2o$
o6bob2o29bobob3o5b3obobo67bob2o5bo5bo150b2o8bo$2o3b2o4b2o26bobo15bobo
70b2o2b2o4b2o150bo8bo$5bo5bo28bo17bo71bo3bo5bo152bo7b2o$2o4bo5bo27b2o
15b2o72bo3bo5bo150b2o8bo$bo3b2o4b2o27b2o15b2o71b2o2b2o4b2o146b2obo9bo$
o6b2obo29b2o15b2o67b2obo6b2obo148bob2o9b2o$2o5bob2o21b5o25b5o59bob2o6b
ob2o4$32b5o25b5o$40b2o15b2o$40b2o15b2o$40b2o15b2o$40bo17bo$39bobo15bob
o$40bobob3o5b3obobo$41bob4o5b4obo$42bo13bo3$47bo3bo$47bo3bo$47bo3bo$
47bo3bo$47bo3bo!

glider synthesis of c/6d and 3c/7d has been found:

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x = 49, y = 19, rule = B3-k/S23-i
33bobo$3bo30b2o$bobo30bo$2b2o$46bobo$26bo19b2o$24bobo20bo$8b2o15b2o$9b
2o$8bo2$7b2o$bo4bobo$b2o5bo$obo2$41b3o$41bo$42bo!

To do list:
  • search meaningful patterns/soups of life under this rule( the ror_stdin_test)
  • looking for a tool under Linux that can search oscillators
  • keep the 5_glider_stdin_test upload
  • search for different spaceship speeds

Links:
Acknowledge
  • thank @yujh for search in symmetric symmetry
    thank @goldenratio for the finding of p7 p9 p11 & c/6
    thank @FWKnightship for natural p36
Last edited by Dylan Chen on March 10th, 2021, 7:44 pm, edited 12 times in total.
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Re: Ski Life (B3-k/S23-i)

Post by yujh » January 31st, 2021, 8:28 am

ntzfind is still quite fast:

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C:\Users\Home>ntzfind B3-k/S23-i p5 k1 w8 u m2000
ntzfind 3.0 by "zdr", Matthias Merzenich, Aidan Pierce, and Tomas Rokicki, 24 February 2018
- ntzfind B3-k/S23-i p5 k1 w8 u m2000
Rule: B3-k/S23-i
Period: 5
Offset: 1
Width:  8
Symmetry: odd
Max length: 2000
Stop search if a ship is found.
Starting search

...o.......o...
.o...o...o...o.
.o...o...o...o.
o..oo.o.o.oo..o
......o.o......
......o.o......
..o...o.o...o..
oo.ooo...ooo.oo
...o.......o...
Length: 44
Spaceship found. (1)

Current depth: 2011
Calculations: 19871154
CPU time: 2.906250 seconds
Search terminated: spaceship found.
No, much faster:

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ntzfind B3-k/S23-i p5 k1 w7 g m2000
ntzfind 3.0 by "zdr", Matthias Merzenich, Aidan Pierce, and Tomas Rokicki, 24 February 2018
- ntzfind B3-k/S23-i p5 k1 w7 g m2000
Rule: B3-k/S23-i
Period: 5
Offset: 1
Width:  7
Symmetry: gutter
Max length: 2000
Stop search if a ship is found.
Starting search

...o.......o...
.o...o...o...o.
.o...o...o...o.
o..oo.o.o.oo..o
......o.o......
......o.o......
..o...o.o...o..
oo.ooo...ooo.oo
...o.......o...
Length: 44
Spaceship found. (1)

Current depth: 2011
Calculations: 1415783
CPU time: 0.187500 seconds
Search terminated: spaceship found.
B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k!!!

b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8

B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8

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Re: Ski Life (B3-k/S23-i)

Post by goldenratio » January 31st, 2021, 3:30 pm

I didn't actually do anything to find these, just went into jslife and changed the rule and observed what worked:
p7 (this amusingly works without the eaters in this rule):

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3-k/S23-i
bo2b2o2bo$ob2ob4o$bo$bo2b3o$o2bo3bo$2obo2bo$bobobo$bo2bo$2o!
p9:

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3-k/S23-i
4b2o$5bo$4bo$3bob3o$3bobo2bo$2obo2b2obo$bobobobobo$bobobobob2o$2bo4bo
2bo$3b2o3bo$5b3o$b3o$bo2b2o$4bobo$5bo!
p11:

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x = 15, y = 14, rule = B3-k/S23-i
7b2o$8bo$6bo$5bob4o$5bobo3bo$3b3o2bob2o$2bo4b2obo$2bob3o3bo$2obo3bobo$
bobobo3bobob2o$o2bob4o2b2obo$2o2bo3bobo$5bo3b2o$4b2o!
p12 (the only one that still works):

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x = 25, y = 23, rule = B3-k/S23-i
8bob2ob2obo$8b2obobob2o2$8b3o3b3o$8bo2bobo2bo$10b2ob2o2$2o3b2o11b2o3b
2o$2o2bo2bob2o3b2obo2bo2b2o$4bobo2b2o3b2o2bobo$5bo13bo2$5bo13bo$4bobo
2b2o3b2o2bobo$2o2bo2bob2o3b2obo2bo2b2o$2o3b2o11b2o3b2o2$10b2ob2o$8bo2b
obo2bo$8b3o3b3o2$8b2obobob2o$8bob2ob2obo!
EDIT: c/6:

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x = 17, y = 48, rule = B3-k/S23-i
8bo$3b2o3bo3b2o$2bo2b2obob2o2bo$2b2o9b2o$3bobo5bobo$4b2o5b2o$3bo2bo3b
o2bo3$4bo7bo$4bo7bo$5bob3obo$7bobo$4bo7bo$3b2o7b2o$4bobo3bobo$4b3o3b3o
$5bobobobo$5bobobobo$2b3o2bobo2b3o$2bobo7bobo$2bob2ob3ob2obo$2bo11bo$
b2obo2bobo2bob2o$b4o2bobo2b4o$4b2o5b2o$4b2o5b2o$3bo2bo3bo2bo$3o3bo3bo
3b3o$6bo3bo$2o5bobo5b2o$3b3obobob3o$2bo4bobo4bo$7bobo$4b2obobob2o$b2o
2b2o3b2o2b2o$b2o11b2o$5bo5bo$5b2o3b2o$7bobo$4b2obobob2o$7bobo$2bo2bob
obobo2bo$bo3bobobobo3bo$2bob4ob4obo$5bo5bo$3bo9bo$2b3o7b3o!
Don't know, I don't really want to be called by my current username anymore.
Anyways the old gun:

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x = 5, y = 7, rule = B2n3-cq4e5y6c7c/S23-k
2o$2o3$3bo$3b2o$3bo!

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Re: Ski Life (B3-k/S23-i)

Post by FWKnightship » February 1st, 2021, 5:14 am

Natural p36:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3-k/S23-i
3bo4b3o$2bobo6bo$bobo4b3o$obo$bo5bo$6bobo$5bobo$4bobo$obo2bo$obo$obo$
bo!

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3-k/S23-i
5bob4obo2bo2bob4obo$bob4o2b2ob3ob3ob2o2b4obo$3b2o2b2o2bobo3bobo2b2o2b
2o$b2obo4b2o2bo3bo2b2o4bob2o$b3o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b3o$2o5b4ob7ob4o
5b2o$bo2bobob2o2b2o3b2o2b2obobo2bo$obo2bo3b2obobobobob2o3bo2bobo$obo2b
2ob2o2bo2bo2bo2b2ob2o2bobo$2ob25ob2o$2obobobob13obobobob2o$2bo6b4o5b4o
6bo$2o2b9obobob9o2b2o$b3ob2o2b2o4bo4b2o2b2ob3o$bo3bobob2obob3obob2obob
o3bo$o3b2o2b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2b2o3bo$bo3bobob2obob3obob2obobo3bo$b3ob2o2b
2o4bo4b2o2b2ob3o$2o2b9obobob9o2b2o$2bo6b4o5b4o6bo$2obobobob13obobobob
2o$2ob25ob2o$obo2b2ob2o2bo2bo2bo2b2ob2o2bobo$obo2bo3b2obobobobob2o3bo
2bobo$bo2bobob2o2b2o3b2o2b2obobo2bo$2o5b4ob7ob4o5b2o$b3o2bo2bo2bo2bo2b
o2bo2bo2b3o$b2obo4b2o2bo3bo2b2o4bob2o$3b2o2b2o2bobo3bobo2b2o2b2o$bob4o
2b2ob3ob3ob2o2b4obo$5bob4obo2bo2bob4obo!
It seems that I can upload my apgsearch results now!
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Re: Ski Life (B3-k/S23-i)

Post by Dylan Chen » February 2nd, 2021, 7:38 am

Three days exploring to a new rule

step1:
  • Golly randomly fill. Checking the involvement of soups
step2:
  • Select one rule that attracts you
  • Apgsearch and upload some hauls
step3:
  • qfind/ikpx2 search for spaceships
  • JLS or LSS search for oscillators


Tools you need
  • Computer. installed with Golly
  • WSL. (strongly recommand for win10 users)
  • Cloud instance. For high durance and high performance computing


Software the community provide
  • Scripts
  • Gitlab/Github
  • Make no hesitate to ask in forum or the discord channel


Dylan Chen wrote:
March 14th, 2021, 7:53 am
Assume there is a museum
you can take away exhibits freely
as the replica is identical to the original

Assume there is a dataset
with 2000+TB of size
which has computed out a 6.3MB summary

Assume there is a virtual world
could be explore via computer /even hand
and won't be interfered by human will


That's another kind of Life







Summary
All neccessary posts(of mine) on the forum
Dylan Chen wrote:
August 7th, 2020, 10:31 pm
For those who may get interest on Cloud based APGsearch, though not familiar with Linux command line. I'd like to share my note about how to do APGsearch on a cloud Linux server. Hoping it would be helpful to you.
apgsearch v5.0


Re: A Broader Audience for Cellular Automata

Surjective:Make sure there is no one left

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Ski Life (B3-k/S23-i)
Tools should not be the limit.
Whether your obstacle is a script, an stdin, or Linux environment computing resouces.
check New rules thread for help.

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