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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 17th, 2022, 1:32 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
November 16th, 2022, 11:12 pm
P3 fountain

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = StateInvestigator
5$6.A$8.E$4.D3.D$2.CD.3AE$5.2R!
I remember having this collection of strong P3 sparkers:

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x = 37, y = 115, rule = StateInvestigator
6.A22.2A$4.E3.E18.E4.E$4.D3.D18.D4.D$5.EIE20.E2IE$5.3E20.4E8$6.A22.2A
2$2.E7.E14.E8.E$2.D2.IEI2.D14.D2.I2EI2.D$3.7E16.8E8$6.A22.2A$4.A3.A
18.A4.A$3.A5.A16.A6.A$2.E2.IEI2.E14.E2.I2EI2.E$2.D.5E.D14.D.6E.D$2.DE
5.ED14.DE6.ED7$6.A22.2A3$.D3.IEI3.D12.D3.I2EI3.D$.DEA5EAED12.DEA6EAED
8$6.A22.2A3$ED3.IEI3.DE10.ED3.I2EI3.DE$EH9EHE10.EH10EHE$3E7.3E10.3E8.
3E7$6.A22.2A$4.A3.A18.A4.A$2.E7.E14.E8.E$.D3.IEI3.D12.D3.I2EI3.D$2.D.
5E.D14.D.6E.D$.EDE5.EDE12.EDE6.EDE7$6.A22.2A$4.A3.A18.A4.A$3.E5.E16.E
6.E$2.E2.IEI2.E14.E2.I2EI2.E$2.D.5E.D14.D.6E.D$2.DE5.ED14.DE6.ED7$6.A
22.2A$3.A5.A16.A6.A$.E9.E12.E10.E$.D2.EIEIE2.D12.D2.EI2EIE2.D$.EH7EHE
12.EH8EHE$.3E5.3E12.3E6.3E7$6.A22.2A3$2.BE.IEI.EB14.BE.I2EI.EB$3.D5ED
16.D6ED8$6.A22.2A3$.OBDEIEIEDBO12.OBDEI2EIEDBO3$6.A22.2A!
(This always intrigues me, because strong P3 sparkers are rare in Life.)
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 17th, 2022, 5:40 am

hotdogPi wrote:
January 12th, 2022, 9:28 pm
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
January 12th, 2022, 9:24 pm
hotcrystal0 wrote:
January 12th, 2022, 9:14 pm

To show that the cells always have 2 or 3 neighbors I guess?
I got used to always using state 4 cells to replace state 1 cells that never die; not sure about you though.
If they never die on their own, there is no reason to force them to stay on.
I had this "fight" about whether to use state 4 cells to replace state 1 stator cells; I noticed this P5 MW volcano in hotcrystal0's emulator collection:

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x = 9, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
4.A$2.A3.A2$EA5.AE$2A.3A.2A$2.2A.2A$3D.A.3D$A.E3.E.A$2.EA.AE$2.E3AE$
3.D2ED!
#C [[ WIDTH 480 HEIGHT 320 ]]

First to reduce the casing:

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x = 7, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
3.A$.A3.A2$D5.D$D.3A.D$E2A.2AE$2D.A.2D$.E3.E$.EA.AE$.E3AE$2.D2ED!
#C [[ LABEL 3 6.1 13 "X" ]]
#C [[ WIDTH 480 HEIGHT 320 ]]

Just by seeing the oscillator, it is not at all obvious that the cell labeled X never dies, since it's a state 1 cell. And yet, cell X is the only state 1 connection between the top and bottom parts. It would require quite a bit of running and close attention to notice that it is actually a stator cell (instead of the two parts requiring each other for stabilization), and thus this reduction was easily overlooked.

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = StateInvestigator
3.A$.A3.A2$D5.D$D.3A.D$E2A.2AE$2DEDE2D!
#C [[ WIDTH 480 HEIGHT 320 ]]

I hope that this will reduce a few more oscillators.
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 17th, 2022, 8:14 pm

BRx84H

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x = 24, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
8.B$10.B2$2.E2$21.A$21.A$21.3A$2.A20.A$.3A$2A.A!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 25th, 2022, 11:49 pm

This just looks like a random collection of cells:

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x = 3, y = 9, rule = StateInvestigator
2R$.K$.K$.F$E$.DE2$SC$S!
But it actually stabilizes half of a Jason's P22:

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x = 13, y = 12, rule = StateInvestigator
7.A$6.A.A$6.A.A$10.2R$4.A6.K$C2.A.2A4.K$2.A4.A3.F$3.A3.A2.E$4.3A4.DE$
9.A$10.SC$9.AS!
Similarily, here is a monomer of 68P16:

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
9.EDE$8.E.AD$6.A3.E$DA3.2A3.E$DA2.A5.D$5.A5.CD$5.A3.ARD$2.E6.A$9.C$3.
E2.AE.D$3.CE2D!
Here are some SI versions of Life true period guns (period up to 48):

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x = 612, y = 27, rule = StateInvestigator
440.DA2.DC$57.A330.EQ45.B4.DA.A.D$23.E32.A.A319.DE9.D54.DE26.2D10.ED
21.E8.E25.8A52.E7.ED$21.E34.A.A193.E21.E103.D10.E44.A33.E37.E10.E24.A
.4A.A61.D$20.BE38.2R171.ED148.3A2.E44.3A39.E66.8A$54.A6.K162.3E.2E4.D
41.3A103.A2.A40.E5.2A.2A71.A6.A$23.3A24.C2.A.2A4.K104.E60.A49.3A22.C
79.A20.J10.D16.2A3.2A69.3A4.3A51.2E.2E3.2E.2E2.C$2.E.E18.A2.A25.A4.A
3.F158.E6.2A18.E29.A33.E31.BE37.3A28.A2E16.2A.2A69.2A.2A2.2A.2A60.A4.
E22.A$23.A.2A26.A3.A2.E22.E41.E11.DEC16.3E60.D6.A.2A25.2A13.E73.B68.A
HE50.E2.2A12.3A12.E6.2A10.2A6.E39.E12.2A24.2A.2A$54.3A4.DE11.E11.C12.
B.DE33.E19.ENE60.D6.A.A25.4A19.A21.E37.DE5.E66.E.A2E48.C4.2A33.3A10.
3A16.B18.E21.A.2A23.2A.2A$E.3A5.ED47.A12.C3.2A64.E13.E2A45.2A20.2A25.
A3.A19.A20.D2.E35.B15.C37.E19.2E92.2A10.2A38.E19.A.A13.CE9.2A.2A2.C$.
A5.A3.D48.SC13.2A.A54.A23.A46.2A43.2A3.3A5.A13.A.A19.EA4.2A36.2A9.E
36.2D91.2A4.C16.2A.2A2.2A.2A25.2A.2A29.2A14.Q12.A2.E$.A6.A.2E30.T16.A
S15.3A20.E23.E.2A5.2A23.D7.2A23.A10.2A52.A5.3A3.2A7.2A20.D3.2A2.A34.
2A.2A61.2A40.E18.3A12.2A2.E10.C2.E5.3A4.3A5.E2.C17.A3.A45.E$2.3A3.A
14.2A.A14.CT61.2A15.C3.A6.2A3.A.A17.CE4.A.A4.EC18.A.A7.3A7.E49.A3.A
12.A24.2A.2A13.A21.A2.A60.A2.A98.A6.A28.3A48.2A$4.A3.A14.A2.A15.A4.A
55.2A.A19.2A10.2A22.2A7.D21.2A6.2A21.A35.4A38.2A.2A11.2A.2A19.A2.A33.
A26.3A37.E65.E82.2A$E4.A.A.E14.3A13.ED4.3A33.E14.E6.2A.2A17.A.A3.2A6.
A3.C26.A11.E9.2A9.2A17.A.A35.2A41.A13.2A.2A20.2A26.E6.A.A19.CE5.A4.C
23.2A.2A12.AD63.E25.E.E$.BE3.A35.E2.A.3A25.F4.E2D14.DE6.A.A24.2A5.2A.
E27.2AE20.2A9.2A16.EDA55.A37.A2.2A3.D50.A3.A28.E24.2A3.2A11.AD23.E27.
E5.C$EB26.EB11.G3.A2.3A55.A25.A37.ENE17.A.A29.E57.2A37.2A4.AE50.A3.A
54.2A.2A113.C$28.E12.J4.4A2.C70.E46.3E17.A36.A39.2A10.A.A41.E2.D23.2B
16.D8.A3.A2.C52.3A28.DE10.2D27.E3.C$41.J5.2A80.E96.A.A41.A9.A44.E42.E
D8.A.A.E55.A7.E$41.2R83.CED31.E61.E2A3.A38.A.A10.A88.2E8.A47.ED$23.C
136.2DE59.ED3.A40.A18.E25.E113.D.A.AD4.B$44.A.A176.A.2A37.BE14.A146.C
D2.AD$45.A178.A53.3A$279.3A2$283.E!
Finally, a hotcrystal0 duplicator:

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x = 12, y = 20, rule = StateInvestigator
3.ED$3.DA$8.A$7.A.A$7.A.A$8.A$A$.2A$2A3$.E3$11.E2$5.2A$.E3.2A.E2$7.C!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 26th, 2022, 9:43 am

StateInvestigator-ized version of 120P34:

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x = 24, y = 23, rule = StateInvestigator
15.AE$7.B6.A.AE$5.C8.A2.A$15.2A3$B6.A.A$7.A.A$7.3A6$14.3A$14.A.A$14.A
.A6.B3$7.2A$6.A2.A8.C$6.EA.A6.B$7.EA!
Sadly, I couldn't figure out how to monomerize it.
Edit: P34 gun

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x = 23, y = 23, rule = StateInvestigator
15.AE$7.B6.A.AE$5.C8.A2.A$15.2A3$B6.A.A$7.A.A$7.3A4$20.E2$14.3A$14.A.
A5.E$14.A.A$18.E2.C2$7.2A$6.A2.A5.E$6.EA.A$7.EA!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 26th, 2022, 5:07 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
November 25th, 2022, 11:49 pm
This just looks like a random collection of cells:

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x = 3, y = 9, rule = StateInvestigator
2R$.K$.K$.F$E$.DE2$SC$S!
But it actually stabilizes half of a Jason's P22:

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x = 13, y = 12, rule = StateInvestigator
7.A$6.A.A$6.A.A$10.2R$4.A6.K$C2.A.2A4.K$2.A4.A3.F$3.A3.A2.E$4.3A4.DE$
9.A$10.SC$9.AS!
Similarily, here is a monomer of 68P16:

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
9.EDE$8.E.AD$6.A3.E$DA3.2A3.E$DA2.A5.D$5.A5.CD$5.A3.ARD$2.E6.A$9.C$3.
E2.AE.D$3.CE2D!
Inspired by those, here's a monomer of the P21 honey farm hassler:

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x = 15, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
.CED$D.DA5.E2$12.ERQ$.E3.3A6.E$5.A.A$4.A2.A$5.2A2$11.EDE!
And also a monomer of a P42 pi hassler:

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x = 26, y = 23, rule = StateInvestigator
8.DA2.AD$7.EDA2.ADE$8.DA2.AD4$19.C$DE18.E3.B$D$12.A$11.A.A$10.A3.A$10.
A3.A10.D$10.2A.2A9.ED2$21.C$21.KEQ$21.BE$5.A2E11.E2O$3.E3.E7.E.E$2.ED
3.DE$2.EIEIEIE$2.7E!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 26th, 2022, 8:52 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
November 26th, 2022, 5:07 pm
And also a monomer of a P42 pi hassler:

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x = 26, y = 23, rule = StateInvestigator
8.DA2.AD$7.EDA2.ADE$8.DA2.AD4$19.C$DE18.E3.B$D$12.A$11.A.A$10.A3.A$10.
A3.A10.D$10.2A.2A9.ED2$21.C$21.KEQ$21.BE$5.A2E11.E2O$3.E3.E7.E.E$2.ED
3.DE$2.EIEIEIE$2.7E!
Slightly reduced:

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x = 25, y = 20, rule = StateInvestigator
8.DA2.AD$7.ED.2A.DE$8.DA2.AD4$19.C3.E$DE18.E3.B$D20.3A$21.2A3$11.3A$
11.A.A$11.A.A$21.C$21.KED$5.E15.BE$4.DAE12.E2O$4.2DC10.E!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by bibunsekibun » November 26th, 2022, 9:59 pm

P328 Gun

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x = 37, y = 55, rule = StateInvestigator
12.C13.EB$24.C.B$8.C17.BEB$27.B5$2.B31.C$B.EB$E2B2$.C34.C11$8.A.A$C7.
A.A24.C$8.3A$34.2BE$33.BE.B$2.C31.B5$9.B$8.BEB17.C$10.B$9.BE13.C4$10.
C14$15.E!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 27th, 2022, 9:34 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
November 25th, 2022, 11:49 pm

Similarily, here is a monomer of 68P16:

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
9.EDE$8.E.AD$6.A3.E$DA3.2A3.E$DA2.A5.D$5.A5.CD$5.A3.ARD$2.E6.A$9.C$3.
E2.AE.D$3.CE2D!
Um... what the heck happened to that block?

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
9.EDE$8.E.AD$6.A3.E$2A3.2A3.E$2A2.A5.D$5.A5.CD$5.A3.ARD$2.E6.A$9.C$3.
E2.AE.D$3.CE2D!
Edit: A monomer of a P18 HF hassler

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
2.2D$2.E$5.2A$5.2A$4.A.A$5.A6.K$D4.A5.E$DE2$2.E$2.2D!
Edit 2: Here's a monomer of 92P23

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x = 18, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
9.ECDEDR$12.2AE$8.A$7.3A5.2E$6.2A.2A4.AD$E4.3A.3A3.ADE$D5.2A.2A$7.3A4.
E$8.A$11.E$10.2D!
(slightly reduced)

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x = 18, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
9.ECDEDR$12.2AE$8.A$7.3A5.2E$6.2A.2A4.AD$E4.3A.3A3.ADE$D5.2A.2A$7.3A4.
E$8.A2$10.B!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 27th, 2022, 8:02 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
November 27th, 2022, 9:34 am
Um... what the heck happened to that block?

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
9.EDE$8.E.AD$6.A3.E$2A3.2A3.E$2A2.A5.D$5.A5.CD$5.A3.ARD$2.E6.A$9.C$3.
E2.AE.D$3.CE2D!
Um... just applying my stator convention.

P34 pi hassler:

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x = 12, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
.2D$D.A$DA6.E.E$E$8.3A$7.A3.A$7.2A.2A3$9.2E!
(Example: P34 LWSS gun)

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x = 47, y = 31, rule = StateInvestigator
24.E2D$25.A.D$26.AD5$21.3A$21.A2.AE$18.E6.A$18.E2.A2.AE$21.3A6$44.2D$
44.A.D$36.E.E6.AD$46.E$.2D$D.A35.A$DA6.EAE25.2A.A$E7.A.A24.A3.A$7.A3.
A23.A.2A$7.A3.A24.2E$7.2A.2A3$9.2E!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 28th, 2022, 7:47 pm

P56 consisting of a P7 rephasing a P6

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = StateInvestigator
2.3A2$A5BA2$2.3A3$4.A$3.4BA!
Edit: a similar P40

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x = 12, y = 6, rule = StateInvestigator
.A5.E2D$4BA5.D$9.AQE$9.ADE$10.D$7.E2D!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » December 4th, 2022, 1:51 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
November 26th, 2022, 9:43 am
StateInvestigator-ized version of 120P34:

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x = 24, y = 23, rule = StateInvestigator
15.AE$7.B6.A.AE$5.C8.A2.A$15.2A3$B6.A.A$7.A.A$7.3A6$14.3A$14.A.A$14.A
.A6.B3$7.2A$6.A2.A8.C$6.EA.A6.B$7.EA!
Sadly, I couldn't figure out how to monomerize it.
Edit: P34 gun

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x = 23, y = 23, rule = StateInvestigator
15.AE$7.B6.A.AE$5.C8.A2.A$15.2A3$B6.A.A$7.A.A$7.3A4$20.E2$14.3A$14.A.
A5.E$14.A.A$18.E2.C2$7.2A$6.A2.A5.E$6.EA.A$7.EA!
Eater 3 can usually be replaced with one of these catalysts:

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x = 31, y = 29, rule = StateInvestigator
17.A10.A$4.2A10.A11.A$4.2A10.3A9.3A$.2A10.2A10.2A$A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A$EA
.A8.EA.A8.EA.A$.EA10.EA10.EA6$17.A10.A$4.2A10.A11.A$2.E.2A8.E.3A7.E.
3A$2.B11.B11.B$2.EBE9.EBE9.EBE7$17.A10.A$4.2A10.A11.A$4.2A10.3A9.3A$.
DA10.DA10.DA$.E.A9.E.A9.E.A$2.2D10.2D10.2D!
In this case, the second type works.

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x = 24, y = 21, rule = StateInvestigator
7.B6.2D$5.C8.A.E$15.AD$8.3A$8.A$B7.3A10$13.3A7.B$15.A$13.3A$7.DA$7.E.
A8.C$8.2D6.B!
Due to the complex interaction between the two pi-heptominos, it is not exactly facile to monomerize this.

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x = 16, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
6.ED$6.QA$4.C$2.RED$2.EA$.DAE2$C.E12.C$7.3A$2.C6.A$7.3A$.DA$.2D9.C$2.
E7.B!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 4th, 2022, 10:58 am

I created this sparker to SI-ize the P7-assisted P28 gun, but it failed:

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x = 27, y = 9, rule = StateInvestigator
9.CE5.EC$9.E7.E$5.2A2.AD5.DA2.2A$.A2.A2.A.AE5.EA.A2.A2.A$A8.2E5A2E8.A
$A3.A5.2D3A2D5.A3.A$.D4.A4.EIAIE4.A4.D$AD4.A4.5E4.A4.DA$A4.A15.A4.A!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by pzq_alex » December 4th, 2022, 11:47 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
December 4th, 2022, 10:58 am
I created this sparker to SI-ize the P7-assisted P28 gun, but it failed:

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x = 27, y = 9, rule = StateInvestigator
9.CE5.EC$9.E7.E$5.2A2.AD5.DA2.2A$.A2.A2.A.AE5.EA.A2.A2.A$A8.2E5A2E8.A
$A3.A5.2D3A2D5.A3.A$.D4.A4.EIAIE4.A4.D$AD4.A4.5E4.A4.DA$A4.A15.A4.A!
Alternative useless stabilization

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x = 28, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
9.CE5.EC$9.E7.E$5.2A2.AD5.DA2.2A$4.A2.A.AE5.EA.A2.A$9.2E5A2E7.EDE$A3.
A5.2D3A2D8.2A$AD4.A4.EIAIE.EA.A3.3A$.D4.A4.5E2.D3.A2.2A$A4.A13.DEDE2.
EDE$A$.A!
(Huh, so I'm using a p7 dot to support a regenerative loop hassler to support a grin reaction supporting another p7 dot. )
Or you can use the supporting p7 alone:

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x = 25, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
9.CE5.EC$9.E7.E3.EDE$5.2A2.AD5.DA3.3A$4.A2.A.AE5.EA.6A$9.2E5A2E3.3A$A
3.A5.2D3A2D4.EDE$AD4.A4.EIAIE$.D4.A4.5E$A4.A$A$.A!
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » December 5th, 2022, 12:52 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
December 4th, 2022, 10:58 am
I created this sparker to SI-ize the P7-assisted P28 gun, but it failed:

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x = 27, y = 9, rule = StateInvestigator
9.CE5.EC$9.E7.E$5.2A2.AD5.DA2.2A$.A2.A2.A.AE5.EA.A2.A2.A$A8.2E5A2E8.A
$A3.A5.2D3A2D5.A3.A$.D4.A4.EIAIE4.A4.D$AD4.A4.5E4.A4.DA$A4.A15.A4.A!
P28 gun:

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x = 13, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
E3.ED2.AD$D5.A.AD$D3.DA$.E2.2E2.E$3.D3.E.B$3.2E3A3E$5.3A3.DE$6.A4.AD
4$EDA$.DE$5.E!
A related P34 gun:

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x = 13, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
E2.2ED2.AD$D5.A.AD$D3.DA$.E2.2E2.E$3.D3.E.B$3.2E3A3E$5.3A3.DE$6.A4.AD
4$EDA$.DE$5.E!
A related P36 gun:

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x = 13, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
4.ED2.AD$4.D.A.AD$4.DA$5.E2.E$7.E.B$5.3A3E$5.3A3.DE$6.A4.AD4$EDA$.DE$
5.E!
A related P26 gun:

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x = 13, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
4.ED2.AD$6.A.AD$4.DA$4.2E2.E$.CED3.E.B$3.2E3A3E$5.3A3.DE$6.A4.AD4$EDA
$.DE$5.E!
A related P30 gun:

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x = 13, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
C3.ED2.AD$D5.A.AD$D3.DA$C3.2E2.E$.CED3.E.B$3.2E3A3E$5.3A3.DE$6.A4.AD
4$EDA$.DE$5.E!
A related P40 gun:

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x = 13, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
E3.ED2.AD$D5.A.AD$D3.DA$E3.2E2.E$E2.D3.E.B$D.3E3A3E$5.3A3.DE$6.A4.AD
4$EDA$.DE$5.E!
A related P32 gun:

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x = 13, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
E2.2ED2.AD$D5.A.AD$D3.DA$E3.2E2.E$E2.D3.E.B$D.3E3A3E$5.3A3.DE$6.A4.AD
4$EDA$.DE$5.E!
A related P38 gun:

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x = 13, y = 15, rule = StateInvestigator
2.E$4.ED2.AD$BA4.A.AD$D3.DA$E3.2E2.E$2.ED3.E.B$B2.2E3A3E$5.3A3.DE$6.A
4.AD4$EDA$.DE$5.E!
A related P42 gun:

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x = 13, y = 15, rule = StateInvestigator
2.E$E3.ED2.AD$B5.A.AD$D3.DA$E3.2E2.E$E.ED3.E.B$B2.2E3A3E$5.3A3.DE$6.A
4.AD4$EDA$.DE$5.E!
In all cases, the P7 oscillator on the top gets rephased to 7n+1. The P36 keeps it that way, the P28 and P42 revert this rephasing, the P34 rephases it to 7n−1, the P26 and P40 rephases it to 7n−2, the P32 rephases it to 7n−3, the P30 rephases it to 7n+2, and the P38 rephases it to 7n+3.
It is also possible to use a lightweight emulator instead of the P7 unix-like sparker:

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x = 13, y = 18, rule = StateInvestigator
5.4E$5.E2IE$4.2D2A2D$4.E4.E$4.E4.E$4.D4.D$4.E4.E$5.E2.E$7.E.B$5.A.A3E
$6.A4.DE$6.A4.AD4$EDA$.DE$5.E!
This way of generating a glider doesn't work at P24, but the spark-to-glider works:

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x = 9, y = 16, rule = StateInvestigator
CE.ED2.AD$D4.A.AD$DE.DA$E2.2E2.E$CED3.E.B$2.2E3A2E$4.3A$5.A3$.C5.E$.D
.E$D.AE$E.2AE$.DA2.E$.E!
I wasn't expecting a P2 sparker to work (P20 gun):

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x = 11, y = 17, rule = StateInvestigator
2.3E$2.ENE$2.3A$C5.C$2.A.A$3.A$3.A3$.E4.E2$3.E2.C$3.C.AD$5.D2.E$5.E3.
E$6.D3.E$6.E!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 17th, 2022, 10:05 am

???

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x = 12, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
A.A$.2A$.A7.B4$9.2A$9.2A3$11.C!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 17th, 2022, 4:35 pm

Some random "assisted" block catalyses

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x = 9, y = 20, rule = StateInvestigator
5.E.ED$7.AD$.C.2A3.E$3.2A5$7.E6$4.A$2.2A.A$2.A2.A$A$.A$.A!

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x = 7, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
2.BE$.EB.E$.E.E.2A$5.2A5$.2A$A$.3A$3.2A$2.2A$3.A!

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x = 20, y = 12, rule = StateInvestigator
4.R3$17.A$16.3A$.E2A14.A$C.2A14.2A3$2.E2.E$3.2B$3.EBE!
Edit: This one's interesting because the block catalyzes twice and survives both

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x = 12, y = 8, rule = StateInvestigator
7.C2$.B$.E$10.A$E2A6.3A$.2A5.2A$4.E3.2A!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 17th, 2022, 10:39 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
December 5th, 2022, 12:52 am

I wasn't expecting a P2 sparker to work (P20 gun):

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x = 11, y = 17, rule = StateInvestigator
2.3E$2.ENE$2.3A$C5.C$2.A.A$3.A$3.A3$.E4.E2$3.E2.C$3.C.AD$5.D2.E$5.E3.
E$6.D3.E$6.E!
Different P20:

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
2.E$E3QE$D3AD$EA2.E$C4.2EB$2.3A2.B$2.3A.E$2.3A2$.E5.C!
Different P24:

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x = 7, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
3.E$.EQDQE$.D3AD$BE3.EC3$3.3A4$.E4.E!
P25, not by me

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x = 9, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
5.E$.E4$3.3A$B7.B$4.A3.B$.E3.2E$.D3.D$.DEQED!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 20th, 2022, 8:12 pm

P27

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = StateInvestigator
6.E2$.E3$4.3A$EB7.B$2D3.A$E3.E3.E$E3.D3.D$B3.AEQED$2.E.ED!
(gunned)

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x = 12, y = 18, rule = StateInvestigator
10.E$9.E$8.E2$6.CD2.DE$8.DE3$.E3$4.3A$EB7.B$2D3.A$E3.E3.E$E3.D3.D$B3.
AEQED$2.E.ED!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » December 21st, 2022, 3:35 am

Here is a different P27 gun:

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x = 18, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
8.E2$.E6.A$DA4.2A.2A$DA6.A3.EC$11.E.D$5.E2.E3.D2.E$12.E3.E$13.D3.E$
13.E!
I also forgot to post this P25 and P38 TL hassler:

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x = 9, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
3.DEQED$3.D3.D$2.2E3.E$B$B7.B2$4.A$4.A$3.3A$.E4.E!

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x = 7, y = 15, rule = StateInvestigator
.DEQED$.D3AD$.E3AE2$3.A$3.A$3.A$E5.E5$C5.C2$.EDEDE!
It uses this p4 dot sparker that can easily be rephased to any of the three other phases:

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x = 44, y = 9, rule = StateInvestigator
18.A11.A.A9.A$16.2A12.2A9.A$17.2A12.A9.3A3$2.A11.A11.A11.A$E3.E7.E3.E
7.E3.E7.E3.E$D3.D7.D3.D7.D3.D7.D3.D$DEQED7.DEQED7.DEQED7.DEQED!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by bibunsekibun » December 24th, 2022, 7:07 am

P396, 31cell
Is this oscillator a SKOP?

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x = 57, y = 35, rule = StateInvestigator
6.2E41.2E$6.QHE39.EHQ$5.E2AE39.E2AE5$J55.J3$11.3A$11.A$12.A7$15.C25.C
8$.C53.C7$18.C19.C!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by FWKnightship » December 24th, 2022, 8:14 am

bibunsekibun wrote:
December 24th, 2022, 7:07 am
P396, 31cell
Is this oscillator a SKOP?

Code: Select all

x = 57, y = 35, rule = StateInvestigator
6.2E41.2E$6.QHE39.EHQ$5.E2AE39.E2AE5$J55.J3$11.3A$11.A$12.A7$15.C25.C
8$.C53.C7$18.C19.C!
22 cells:

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x = 14, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
E2A$.IA7.3A$.IA6.A3.A$E2A6.A3.A$11.I$10.A.A$11.A3$11.E!
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
AttributeError: 'FWKnightship' object has no attribute 'signature'

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » December 25th, 2022, 1:46 am

FWKnightship wrote:
December 24th, 2022, 8:14 am
bibunsekibun wrote:
December 24th, 2022, 7:07 am
P396, 31cell
Is this oscillator a SKOP?

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x = 57, y = 35, rule = StateInvestigator
6.2E41.2E$6.QHE39.EHQ$5.E2AE39.E2AE5$J55.J3$11.3A$11.A$12.A7$15.C25.C
8$.C53.C7$18.C19.C!
22 cells:

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x = 14, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
E2A$.IA7.3A$.IA6.A3.A$E2A6.A3.A$11.I$10.A.A$11.A3$11.E!
There exist 9-cell oscillators for all periods 92+8N, including P396.

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x = 49, y = 43, rule = StateInvestigator
2.Q2$E33$35.A$36.2A$35.2A3$48.E2$46.Q!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 25th, 2022, 10:16 am

Reduction of a P56 found by me a while back

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
7.B$7.E2$5.A$3.2A.2A4.C$.B3.A$EB$E$B6.E$7.B!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 26th, 2022, 2:24 pm

Here's a P26 gun similar to EV's one but uses a completely different sparker

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x = 11, y = 17, rule = StateInvestigator
6.E3$2.3A5.B$2.A$3.A2$DA3.3A$ED$4.EA.AE$6.A$9.E$2.C5.ADE$3.ED3A$4.D2A
.DQE$8.E$6.E!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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