Symbiosis

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pzq_alex » January 23rd, 2023, 7:12 am

pipsqueek wrote:
January 22nd, 2023, 10:18 pm
is this p46 known?

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x = 10, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
2A5.2A$2B5.2B3$7.2A$8.2A$7.2A$7.A!
Reduction:

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x = 10, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
A7.A$2B5.2B3$7.2A$8.2A$7.2A$7.A!
(That's known. )
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

How much of current CA technology can I redevelop "on a desert island"?

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pipsqueek » January 23rd, 2023, 8:42 am

p28 traffic light hassler

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x = 14, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
5.A2.A$5.B2.B2$AB10.BA$4.3A$4.A.A$4.3A3$2.AB6.BA!
b to g

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x = 18, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$4.B7.BA2$13.A$13.B3$16.BA4$2.A$.3A$2A.A!
g to b

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x = 26, y = 21, rule = Symbiosis
15.A$3.A11.B$3.B14.A$18.B$22.BA2$24.BA$.BA4$.A$2.A19.BA$3A$10.A$10.B
2$2.BA2$5.A$5.B!
unfortunately they can't be connected

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = Symbiosis
15.A$3.A11.B$3.B14.A$18.B$22.BA2$24.BA$.BA4$.A$2.A19.BA$3A$10.A$10.B
2$2.BA2$5.A$5.B3$29.BA3$26.B$26.A2$17.B7.BA$17.A!

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x=17,y=16,rule=B3/S23
3bo3bobo2bob2o$bobo4bo4b4o$bobo5bobo2b3o$b2obob2o3b2o$3o4b2ob2o2b2o$4b
o4bo$4b2obobob2ob3o$3ob3o2b2o$b3o2bobobo5bo$o3b2o3bobo2b2o$4bo3bob2o3b
o$2obo2bobobo2b2o$3b3o5bo2b2o$2obo4bo2bob2o$o3bob2obo3b2o$2bo8bobobo![[ STOP 3 GPS 4 ]]

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotcrystal0 » January 23rd, 2023, 9:00 pm

P66 pre-pulsar shuttle

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x = 27, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
8.2A7.2A$6.BA3.A3.A3.AB$12.A.A$8.A3.A.A3.A$9.A2.A.A2.A$9.3A3.3A2$3.B19.
B$B.A21.A.B$.A.A19.A.A$.A.A19.A.A$B.A21.A.B$3.B19.B6$6.BA11.AB!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by Period1GliderGun » January 24th, 2023, 2:51 pm

The p24 gun from Life can be reduced to 10x15 with Symbiosis catalysts:

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x = 10, y = 15, rule = symbiosis
.BA$8.B$3.3A3.A$2.A3.A2.B$.A5.A$2.A3.A2.A$3.3A3.B3$9.A$9.B3$B$.A!
It might be interesting to make a collection of the smallest guns of specific periods.

EDIT: Starting small. 7x11 p14 gun:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
2.A2.A$.B4.B$.A$2.A$BA.2A$.A.2A2.A$A7.2A$.B5.2A$5.A$4.B!
EDIT2: 8x9 p18 gun:

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x = 6, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
.B$BA$2.2A$.A2.A$.A2.A$B2.2A$2B$5.A$4.B!
EDIT3: Not a record-breaker, but a p30 glider gun with only one state 2 cell:

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x = 29, y = 10, rule = symbiosis
13.A7.3A$12.A.A$12.2A.A3.A$2A10.2A.2A2.A$2A10.2A.A3.A$12.A.A12.A$13.A
13.2A$28.A$17.B6.2A$17.A7.2A!
EDIT4: p53 gun, based on a partial from Life:

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x = 19, y = 26, rule = symbiosis
3.B$2.A11.AB$8.3A3.A$7.A3.A$6.A5.A$7.A3.A$B.A5.3A$.2A2$AB7$17.BA2$16.
2A$8.3A5.A.B$7.A3.A$6.A5.A$7.A3.A$4.A3.3A$3.BA11.A$15.B!
Last edited by Period1GliderGun on January 24th, 2023, 6:19 pm, edited 5 times in total.
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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
[[ STEP 30 ]]

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotdogPi » January 24th, 2023, 2:57 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
January 23rd, 2023, 9:00 pm
P66 pre-pulsar shuttle

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x = 27, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
8.2A7.2A$6.BA3.A3.A3.AB$12.A.A$8.A3.A.A3.A$9.A2.A.A2.A$9.3A3.3A2$3.B19.
B$B.A21.A.B$.A.A19.A.A$.A.A19.A.A$B.A21.A.B$3.B19.B6$6.BA11.AB!
I've found this as a partial in vanilla Life before. The top and bottom can be replaced, but I haven't found anything for the left and right.
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by Period1GliderGun » January 26th, 2023, 4:09 pm

4-cell glider reflector with repeat time 23 and G-to-MWSS with repeat time 72:

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x = 55, y = 32, rule = Symbiosis
53.A$52.A$52.3A11$A.A$.2A$.A3$7.A27.A$8.A25.A$6.3A25.3A4$37.A$37.B$9.
BA18.BA2$11.A19.A$10.B19.BA$32.2A2.B$33.B2.A!
EDIT: Adjustable MWSS loop:

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x = 13, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
2.A2.B$2.B2.2A$7.AB$7.A2$8.AB$6.A$AB3.A$5.A3.A$5.A$5.A2.A$5.3A3.BA2$3.
BA2$5.A$4.BA$6.2A2.B$7.B2.A!
p69 gliderless MWSS gun:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
8.BA2$B3A$3.A$2.A$.BA.A$3.2A3.2AB$4.B3.2A$9.B!
EDIT2: 90-degree HWSS reflector with repeat time 60:

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x = 47, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
13.2A28.2A$11.A4.A24.A4.A$10.A29.A$10.A5.A23.A5.A$10.6A24.6A2$B2A$3.A
$2.A$.BA.A$3.2A4.B$4.B2.2A$7.2A!
p78 HWSS gun:

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x = 12, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
B3A$3.A$2.A7.AB$.BA.A4.A.A$3.2A3.A.A$4.B3.BA!
I feel like, with the wealth of catalysts available in Symbiosis, it is possible to construct gliderless guns for complex spaceships like the Coe ship, loafer, p12 rake, etc.
It's OK to abbreviate my username to "P1GG," but never, never, call me "pig."

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
[[ STEP 30 ]]

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotcrystal0 » January 26th, 2023, 9:24 pm

weird P7 sparker

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x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
3.6A$3.2A.A2.A$BA3.BA.2A.B$2.A.B2.B.BA$2.BA!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by get_Snacked » January 29th, 2023, 4:52 pm

oscillators found by soup:
p12

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x = 8, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
3.B.B$4.3A$5.A.B$B$4A$2.2A$.B.B!
p12

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x = 10, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$.B2.3A$A2.A2.3AB$.A.2A.B.B$2.AB!
p16 (absurdly small)

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$.B2.A$AB$A.A$.3A!
p19

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x = 12, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
8.BA$2.B3.A2.B$2.2A2B2.A2.B$BA.A2.3A.AB2$2.A$3.A!
p24

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x = 12, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
7.B.B$3.AB2.2A$3.A7.A$AB5.2A.B$6.2A$5.A2.B$4.2B.A!
the p24 has two rephasing reactions based on adding a block:
p19

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x = 12, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
7.B.B$3.AB2.2A$3.A2.A4.A$AB4.A.A.B$7.A$2.A2.A2.B$.BA.2B.A!
p20

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x = 12, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
7.B.B$3.AB2.2A$3.A7.A$AB5.2A.B$6.2A$.2A2.A2.B$.2A.2B.A!
the p20 was found by adding an integral sign to this end when trying to mess with sparks:

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x = 14, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
9.B.B$5.AB2.2A$5.A7.A$2.AB5.2A.B$8.2A$7.A2.B$3.2A.2B.A$2.A.A$2.A$A.A$
2A!
(note: none of these oscillators were reduced.)
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotcrystal0 » January 29th, 2023, 10:05 pm

Some oscillators I found from soups or are slightly modified versions of said oscillators:
P10, P12, P16

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x = 43, y = 31, rule = Symbiosis
8$14.B$14.A$13.B9.B2.A.B5.B.2A.B$22.BA2.3AB4.A3.2A$24.A9.A$14.2A8.2A.
A.AB4.2A3.AB$12.BA.2A.B5.BA3.A5.BA.A.A$13.A.2A.A6.A.A8.A.A$15.A11.B10.
B$14.B.2AB!
Edit: some oscs that came from experimenting with the first one of the above:
"P5 P-pentomino hassler"

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
3.2A$5.A$3.2A2$B2A3.B$.3A2.A$3.2A$2.B.2AB!
P12

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
B3A2.B$.A.2A.A$3.A$2.B.2AB!
P16

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x = 11, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
3$5.2A$5.2A$4.2A$2.BA.A2.B$3.A2.A.A$5.A$4.B.2AB!
P50

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x = 7, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$.2A$.A.A$B.A.A$3.A3$B2A3.B$.A.2A.A$3.A$2.B.2AB!
P32

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x = 9, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
3.3A$2.5A$B7AB6$B3A2.B$.A.2A.A$3.A$2.B.2AB!
P14

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x = 8, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
.B2A.B$3.2A$.A.2A.A$.B3.2AB5$B2A3.B$.A.2A.A$3.2A$2.B.2AB!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pipsqueek » January 29th, 2023, 10:52 pm

a failed b-heptomino shuttle

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x = 28, y = 31, rule = Symbiosis
8$15.A$15.B3$11.AB3$15.A.2A$15.A2.A$15.3A8$19.BA3$16.B$16.A!
maybe it could be supported with this p28 gu- Darn!

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x = 19, y = 34, rule = Symbiosis
4$12.B$12.A15$7.A$7.B2$5.A$6.B$5.A$6.B7.BA$5.A6.2B$13.B$10.B2.BA$11.
2B$11.A!
well maybe this reaction could wor- aw come on!

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x = 30, y = 53, rule = Symbiosis
$14.A$14.2B$13.B2.BA$16.B$8.A6.2B$9.B7.BA$8.A$9.B$8.A2$10.B$10.A22$
10.A$10.B2$8.A$9.B$8.A$9.B7.BA$8.A6.2B$16.B$13.B2.BA$14.2B$14.A!

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x=17,y=16,rule=B3/S23
3bo3bobo2bob2o$bobo4bo4b4o$bobo5bobo2b3o$b2obob2o3b2o$3o4b2ob2o2b2o$4b
o4bo$4b2obobob2ob3o$3ob3o2b2o$b3o2bobobo5bo$o3b2o3bobo2b2o$4bo3bob2o3b
o$2obo2bobobo2b2o$3b3o5bo2b2o$2obo4bo2bob2o$o3bob2obo3b2o$2bo8bobobo![[ STOP 3 GPS 4 ]]

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotcrystal0 » January 30th, 2023, 8:56 pm

pipsqueek wrote:
January 29th, 2023, 10:52 pm
a failed b-heptomino shuttle

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x = 28, y = 31, rule = Symbiosis
8$15.A$15.B3$11.AB3$15.A.2A$15.A2.A$15.3A8$19.BA3$16.B$16.A!
This works:

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x = 12, y = 32, rule = Symbiosis
8.B$6.B.2A.B$7.A2.A$8.2A2$4.A$4.B4.2A$8.A.AB2$.AB5.2A8$5.A$4.3A$3.2A.
A3$9.BA$2.A$BA.A$.2A4.B$7.A2$2.2A$.A2.A$B.2A.B$3.B!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 5th, 2023, 8:06 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
March 28th, 2021, 7:42 pm

Yet another edit: I found a sparker that can suppress one of the blinkers, resulting in a p2394 gun.

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x = 68, y = 75, rule = Symbiosis
6.A.B$7.B.2A$9.2A11$37.B.A$35.2A.B$35.2A2$.2A$.2A$B38.BA$.B38.B$A4$67.
B$65.B2A$63.B2A.A$62.B2A.A$61.2A.2A$61.3A2$5.A$6.B$5.B$6.2A$6.2A7$37.
A$24.B2A9.6A$26.A9.A4.2AB$34.BA2.A2.A$36.A3.A.B$35.BA3.AB$36.A.A.A20.
B$35.2A3.A20.A.A$34.BA.A.2AB20.2AB$36.2A2.A$35.B.3A$37.2B3$62.AB15$35.
2A$33.B.2A$32.A.B!
Just digging an old post up.
A 5-cell catalyst works just as well to suppress that blinker:

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x = 65, y = 75, rule = Symbiosis
6.A.B$7.B.2A$9.2A11$37.B.A$35.2A.B$35.2A2$.2A$.2A$B38.BA$.B38.B$A7$18.
2A40.B$17.2A40.2A$19.A20.A18.2A$36.A3.A3.3A2.A$5.A29.A2.2A.A2.A.2A.A.
3A$6.B29.6A3.2A.2A.A2.A$5.B31.3A.A9.A.A$6.2A41.4A$6.2A42.A3$40.A$39.A
.2A7.2A$38.2A10.2A$38.2A$38.3A$24.B2A10.A.3A$26.A13.A.AB$34.BA5.A$36.
A.A.A.B$35.BA3.AB$36.A2.2A20.B$35.2A3.A20.A.A$34.BA3.2AB20.2AB$36.2A2.
A$35.B.3A$37.2B3$62.AB15$35.2A$33.B.2A$32.A.B!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pipsqueek » February 5th, 2023, 9:07 pm

probably known p20 gun

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x = 11, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$3.B2A.B$.A2B3.A.A$.4A5.B$2A2.A!

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x=17,y=16,rule=B3/S23
3bo3bobo2bob2o$bobo4bo4b4o$bobo5bobo2b3o$b2obob2o3b2o$3o4b2ob2o2b2o$4b
o4bo$4b2obobob2ob3o$3ob3o2b2o$b3o2bobobo5bo$o3b2o3bobo2b2o$4bo3bob2o3b
o$2obo2bobobo2b2o$3b3o5bo2b2o$2obo4bo2bob2o$o3bob2obo3b2o$2bo8bobobo![[ STOP 3 GPS 4 ]]

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pzq_alex » February 6th, 2023, 8:04 am

pipsqueek wrote:
February 5th, 2023, 9:07 pm
probably known p20 gun

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x = 11, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$3.B2A.B$.A2B3.A.A$.4A5.B$2A2.A!
Reduced

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x = 10, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
5.B$3.2A.B$2.B3.A.A$B3A5.B$3.A!
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

How much of current CA technology can I redevelop "on a desert island"?

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by C_R_116 » February 6th, 2023, 9:20 pm

Is this p62 known?

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x = 9, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
4$3.3A$3.A2.A$.2A3.A$.A5.A$.A3.2A$2.2A.AB$2.BA.A!
Same-Lane Glider Reflector:

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x = 15, y = 37, rule = Symbiosis
13.A$12.A$12.3A28$2.3A$2.A2.A$2A3.A$A5.A$A3.2A$.2A.AB$.BA.A!
Edit: Delayed Reaction

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x = 36, y = 34, rule = Symbiosis
34.A$33.A$33.3A5$11.A$10.2B6$AB$.B7$.B$AB4$21.3A$21.A2.A$19.2A3.A$19.
A5.A$19.A3.2A$20.2A.AB$20.BA.A!
Edit 2: Herschel Factory

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x = 41, y = 31, rule = Symbiosis
18.A.AB$17.BA.2A$17.2A$17.2A.2A3.A.A$14.2A.A10.A$14.A.2A6.A$14.A.5A6.
A$19.A2.A3.A$17.A3.A3.A$17.A2.A3.A$21.A.A12.A2.B$34.3A2.BA$34.A.A$34.
A4$6.A$4.A.A$AB2.3A$.B2.A12.A.A$16.A3.A2.A$15.A3.A3.A$14.A3.A2.A$13.A
6.5A.A$16.A6.2A.A$12.A10.A.2A$13.A.A3.2A.2A$22.2A$19.2A.AB$19.BA.A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by Period1GliderGun » February 7th, 2023, 12:29 pm

Gunned:

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x = 7, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$3.B11$2.3A$2.A2.A$2A3.A$A5.A$A3.2A$.2A.AB$.BA.A!
It's OK to abbreviate my username to "P1GG," but never, never, call me "pig."

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
[[ STEP 30 ]]

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by affamatodidio » February 7th, 2023, 1:26 pm

180 degree reflector, symbiosis-ified. Only needs a proper catalyst at the top to function.

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x = 20, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
19.A$A.A9.A4.3A$.2A9.2AB.A$.A14.2A3$11.2A2.2A$11.2A2.2A4$.2A$.A5.2A$2.
3A2.2A$4.A$2.2A$2.A$3.A$2.2A!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pzq_alex » February 7th, 2023, 10:32 pm

affamatodidio wrote:
February 7th, 2023, 1:26 pm
180 degree reflector, symbiosis-ified. Only needs a proper catalyst at the top to function.

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x = 20, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
19.A$A.A9.A4.3A$.2A9.2AB.A$.A14.2A3$11.2A2.2A$11.2A2.2A4$.2A$.A5.2A$2.
3A2.2A$4.A$2.2A$2.A$3.A$2.2A!
Reduced:

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x = 17, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
A.A9.A.B$.2A9.2A$.A3$11.2A$11.2A2.AB2$15.BA3$7.2A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A$2.BA!
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by Period1GliderGun » February 8th, 2023, 12:43 pm

pzq_alex wrote:
February 7th, 2023, 10:32 pm
affamatodidio wrote:
February 7th, 2023, 1:26 pm
180 degree reflector, symbiosis-ified. Only needs a proper catalyst at the top to function.

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x = 20, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
19.A$A.A9.A4.3A$.2A9.2AB.A$.A14.2A3$11.2A2.2A$11.2A2.2A4$.2A$.A5.2A$2.
3A2.2A$4.A$2.2A$2.A$3.A$2.2A!
Reduced:

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x = 17, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
A.A9.A.B$.2A9.2A$.A3$11.2A$11.2A2.AB2$15.BA3$7.2A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A$2.BA!
Further reduction:

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x = 17, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
11.B$A.A9.A$.2A9.AB$.A3$11.2A$11.2A2.A$16.B$15.A3$7.2A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A$
3.B!
It's OK to abbreviate my username to "P1GG," but never, never, call me "pig."

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 9th, 2023, 8:17 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
February 5th, 2023, 8:06 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
March 28th, 2021, 7:42 pm

Yet another edit: I found a sparker that can suppress one of the blinkers, resulting in a p2394 gun.

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x = 68, y = 75, rule = Symbiosis
6.A.B$7.B.2A$9.2A11$37.B.A$35.2A.B$35.2A2$.2A$.2A$B38.BA$.B38.B$A4$67.
B$65.B2A$63.B2A.A$62.B2A.A$61.2A.2A$61.3A2$5.A$6.B$5.B$6.2A$6.2A7$37.
A$24.B2A9.6A$26.A9.A4.2AB$34.BA2.A2.A$36.A3.A.B$35.BA3.AB$36.A.A.A20.
B$35.2A3.A20.A.A$34.BA.A.2AB20.2AB$36.2A2.A$35.B.3A$37.2B3$62.AB15$35.
2A$33.B.2A$32.A.B!
Just digging an old post up.
A 5-cell catalyst works just as well to suppress that blinker:

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x = 65, y = 75, rule = Symbiosis
6.A.B$7.B.2A$9.2A11$37.B.A$35.2A.B$35.2A2$.2A$.2A$B38.BA$.B38.B$A7$18.
2A40.B$17.2A40.2A$19.A20.A18.2A$36.A3.A3.3A2.A$5.A29.A2.2A.A2.A.2A.A.
3A$6.B29.6A3.2A.2A.A2.A$5.B31.3A.A9.A.A$6.2A41.4A$6.2A42.A3$40.A$39.A
.2A7.2A$38.2A10.2A$38.2A$38.3A$24.B2A10.A.3A$26.A13.A.AB$34.BA5.A$36.
A.A.A.B$35.BA3.AB$36.A2.2A20.B$35.2A3.A20.A.A$34.BA3.2AB20.2AB$36.2A2.
A$35.B.3A$37.2B3$62.AB15$35.2A$33.B.2A$32.A.B!
Just noticed this, but a 3-cell catalyst can supress another blinker, creating a double-barreled gun:

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x = 60, y = 62, rule = Symbiosis
32.B.A$30.2A.B$30.2A4$34.BA$35.B8$13.2A40.B$12.2A40.2A$14.A20.A18.2A$
31.A3.A3.3A2.A$A29.A2.2A.A2.A.2A.A.3A$.B29.6A3.2A.2A.A2.A$B31.3A.A9.A
.A$.2A41.4A$.2A42.A3$35.A$34.A.2A7.2A$33.2A10.2A$33.2A$33.3A15.AB$19.
B2A10.A.3A14.B$21.A13.A.AB$29.BA5.A$31.A.A.A.B$30.BA3.AB$31.A2.2A20.B
$30.2A3.A20.A.A$29.BA3.2AB20.2AB$31.2A2.A$30.B.3A$32.2B3$57.AB15$30.2A
$28.B.2A$27.A.B!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by C_R_116 » February 9th, 2023, 9:22 pm

P6 Domino Sparker:

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
4.2A$2.A4.A2$BA6.AB$2.A4.A$3.A2.A$4.2A!
Octagon + Other Stabilizations:

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x = 91, y = 30, rule = Symbiosis
74.A2.A$74.A2.A$73.6A$71.BA6.AB4$7.2A19.2A19.2A24.2A$6.A2.A17.A2.A17.
A2.A22.A2.A$5.A4.A15.A4.A15.A4.A20.A4.A$3.BA6.AB11.BA6.AB11.BA6.AB9.B
6.BA6.AB6.B$3.A8.A11.A8.A11.A8.A9.A6.A8.A6.A$2.A10.A9.A10.A9.A10.A7.A
6.A10.A6.A$.A12.A7.A5.2A5.A7.A4.2A6.A4.3A5.A12.A5.3A$A6.2A6.A5.A5.A2.
A5.A5.A5.2A7.A5.A4.A6.2A6.A4.A$A6.2A6.A5.A5.A2.A5.A5.A7.2A5.A5.A4.A6.
2A6.A4.A$.A12.A7.A5.2A5.A7.A6.2A4.A4.3A5.A12.A5.3A$2.A10.A9.A10.A9.A10.
A7.A6.A10.A6.A$3.A8.A11.A8.A11.A8.A9.A6.A8.A6.A$3.BA6.AB11.BA6.AB11.B
A6.AB9.B6.BA6.AB6.B$5.A4.A15.A4.A15.A4.A20.A4.A$6.A2.A17.A2.A17.A2.A22.
A2.A$7.2A19.2A19.2A24.2A4$71.BA6.AB$73.6A$74.A2.A$74.A2.A!
Last edited by C_R_116 on February 10th, 2023, 7:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by w33z8kqrqk8zzzw33 » February 10th, 2023, 12:04 am

Period1GliderGun wrote:
February 8th, 2023, 12:43 pm
Further reduction:

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x = 17, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
11.B$A.A9.A$.2A9.AB$.A3$11.2A$11.2A2.A$16.B$15.A3$7.2A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A$
3.B!
I was bored and made a smaller bounding box version while still having the same population:

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x = 16, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
A.A9.2A$.2A9.2A$.A12.B3$11.2A$11.2A2.A$15.B4$7.2A$2.B2A2.2A$3.2A!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by C_R_116 » February 10th, 2023, 9:35 pm

p166 glider gun:

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x = 14, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
.B3.2A$.A$3.A$.A$.A3.A$B.A.A.B$.B.A.B$13.A$13.B!
The p7 line oscillator plus something else can reflect a glider by 180 deg. without de-syncing itself.

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x = 23, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
.A$2.A$3A4$9.2B10.2B$10.B11.B$.A8.A2.A8.A$.10A2.10A$.B2.B2.B2.B2.B2.B
2.B2.B!
Glider Loops:

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x = 24, y = 21, rule = Symbiosis
B2.B2.B2.B4.B2.B2.B2.B$10A4.10A$A8.A4.A8.A$B22.B$2B20.2B$16.A$15.2A$
16.2A$15.A3$12.2A$12.A.A$12.A3$2B17.2A.2B$B18.2A2.B$A8.A4.A8.A$10A4.
10A$B2.B2.B2.B4.B2.B2.B2.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 11th, 2023, 9:58 am

wwei47 wrote:
March 29th, 2021, 5:15 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
March 15th, 2021, 6:51 pm
Another edit:

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rle
EDIT: Monomerized the P81 MWSS gun too:

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x = 30, y = 26, rule = SymbiosisEV2
20.A$20.B$18.3B2.A$17.B.4B4.A$17.A.3B4.A.A$15.A.B.B7.A$14.B6.B$14.2A
3.B.B$20.B4$21.B4.BA$14.2B4.B.B$13.B3.B2.B.B$11.A6.B2.B$10.A.B5.B9.2B
$9.A.B5.B10.2B$8.A.B5.B$.B6.2B$A.B.A7.2B$3B.2B2.2B$.B2.2B2.B.A$9.A$7.
A$7.B!
I love it. It's a P9 engine supporting a P27 sparker supporting the gun.

Edit: Here's a smaller P81 gun:

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x = 15, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$6.A$4.A2.A.B$3.A4.A$3.B.A2.A3.BA$.B.A2.3A4.B$A$.B4$13.2A$13.2A$14.
B!
Edit 2: a P45 gun:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$6.A$4.A2.A.B$3.A4.A$3.B.A2.A3.BA$.B.A2.3A4.B$A$.B$15.B$14.A$13.A.
A$14.A$15.B2$11.B$12.A!
P53:

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x = 18, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$6.A$4.A2.A.B$3.A4.A$3.B.A2.A3.BA$.B.A2.3A4.B$A$.B14.B$15.A$14.A.A
B$14.A.A$15.A$16.B!
Edit 3: P38 gun:

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x = 16, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$6.A$4.A2.A.B$3.A4.A$3.B.A2.A3.BA$.B.A2.3A4.B$A$.B13.B$14.2A$14.2A
!
I don't even know what to say about this-

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x = 17, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$6.A$4.A2.A.B$3.A4.A$3.B.A2.A3.BA$.B.A2.3A4.B$A$.B$16.A$12.2A2.B$12.
2A$12.B!
P42 gun

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x = 19, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$6.A$4.A2.A.B$3.A4.A$3.B.A2.A3.BA$.B.A2.3A4.B$A$.B2$12.2A3.AB$12.2A
$12.B!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pzq_alex » February 11th, 2023, 11:37 pm

Okay clearance G-to-thumb

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$8.A$2.A$A.A3.A$.2A2.A.A$6.A.B$3.B.2AB$3.A!
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

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