Symbiosis

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by confocaloid » December 2nd, 2023, 10:41 pm

b-engine wrote:
December 2nd, 2023, 7:51 pm
Pi-to-2G:

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x = 14, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
3B8.ABA$2.B8.B.B$3B8.ABA!
That is a smaller version of the pi splitter:

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x = 76, y = 21, rule = Symbiosis
74.B$73.B.B$74.B2$45.B$44.B.B$44.B.B25.B$43.2B.2B23.B.B$42.B2.B2.B22.
B.B$3B8.ABA16.3B8.B.B.B.B.B10.3B9.B$2.B8.B.B18.B9.B.B.B.B13.B$3B8.ABA
16.3B11.B.B13.3B9.B$44.B2.B23.B.B$45.2B24.B.B$72.B2$44.2B$44.2B$74.B$
73.B.B$74.B!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by Freywa » December 2nd, 2023, 10:42 pm

b-engine wrote:
December 2nd, 2023, 7:51 pm
Pi-to-2G:

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x = 14, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
3B8.ABA$2.B8.B.B$3B8.ABA!

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x = 12, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
3B8.A$2.B8.B$3B8.A!
Princess of Science, Parcly Taxel

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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by b-engine » December 2nd, 2023, 11:08 pm

Smallest p3:

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x = 6, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2.3A$A$A4.A$.A2.A$3.B!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by C_R_116 » December 3rd, 2023, 12:25 am

b-engine wrote:
December 2nd, 2023, 11:08 pm
Smallest p3:

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x = 6, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2.3A$A$A4.A$.A2.A$3.B!
Nuh uh:

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x = 2, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
A$A$A$A$B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by b-engine » December 3rd, 2023, 12:31 am

C_R_116 wrote:
December 3rd, 2023, 12:25 am
b-engine wrote:
December 2nd, 2023, 11:08 pm
Smallest p3:

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x = 6, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2.3A$A$A4.A$.A2.A$3.B!
Nuh uh:

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x = 2, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
A$A$A$A$B!
I mean smallest p3 that's not torch-based.




EDIT:
Unrelated p32 sparker:

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x = 17, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
3.BAB$7.A$6.3A$6.A.A2.B$11.A$6.A.A2.B$B5.3A$A6.A$B3$6.BAB$15.A$14.2A$
14.A.A!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pzq_alex » December 3rd, 2023, 2:14 am

b-engine wrote:
December 3rd, 2023, 12:31 am
I mean smallest p3 that's not torch-based.
Nope either:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2A$2A2$.A.B$.B.A!
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

How much of current CA technology can I redevelop "on a desert island"?

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by b-engine » December 3rd, 2023, 2:30 am

pzq_alex wrote:
December 3rd, 2023, 2:14 am
Nope either:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2A$2A2$.A.B$.B.A!
It's reduction of jam.

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pzq_alex » December 3rd, 2023, 2:31 am

b-engine wrote:
December 3rd, 2023, 2:30 am
pzq_alex wrote:
December 3rd, 2023, 2:14 am
Nope either:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2A$2A2$.A.B$.B.A!
It's reduction of jam.
It isn't because the rotors are different.
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by b-engine » December 3rd, 2023, 2:38 am

pzq_alex wrote:
December 3rd, 2023, 2:31 am
It isn't because the rotors are different.
I modified it's rotor a bit.

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pzq_alex » December 3rd, 2023, 3:06 am

b-engine wrote:
December 3rd, 2023, 2:30 am
pzq_alex wrote:
December 3rd, 2023, 2:14 am
Nope either:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
2A$2A2$.A.B$.B.A!
It's reduction of jam.
I don't get what you're trying to say -- by any standard your p3 isn't the smallest. Here another smaller p3:

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x = 4, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.B$A$2.AB2$2A$.B!
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by b-engine » December 3rd, 2023, 3:15 am

pzq_alex wrote:
December 3rd, 2023, 3:06 am
I don't get what you're trying to say -- by any standard your p3 isn't the smallest. Here another smaller p3:

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x = 4, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.B$A$2.AB2$2A$.B!
I'd made another p3 which is smaller, but still slightly larger than torch:

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x = 2, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
A$A$2A2$.A$.B!
Isn't it?

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x = 14, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.B5.A$A6.A5.A$2.AB3.2A4.A$13.A$2A6.A4.A$.B6.B4.B!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by HerscheltheHerschel » December 3rd, 2023, 6:58 am

Unusually small P430 from Catagolue

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
B.2A$A.2A$4.B$3.2A$3.2A!
Another trench war

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
3.2B$.2B2.B$.B2.B.A$B2.B.A.A$B.B.A2.A$.B.A2.A$2.A2.2A$3.2A!
P2 billiard table

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
3.2B$.AB2.B$.B2.B.A$B2.B.A.A$B.B.A2.A$.B.A2.A$2.A2.AB$3.2A!
Another P2

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$2.B2.B$.B2.B.A$3.B.A.A$B.B.A$.B.A2.A$2.A2.A$3.A!
Rotationally symmetric trench war

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
3.2B.A$.2B2.B.A$.B2.B.A$B2.B.A.A$B.B.A2.A$.B.A2.A$B.A2.2A$.B.2A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by b-engine » December 4th, 2023, 3:36 am

This may be a long-lived methuselah, but it didn't stabilize even after 100000 generations.

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
.6A$A5.A$6.A$A4.A3$B4.B$6.B$B5.B$.6B!
EDIT:
Is this small p5 known?

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
.A.A$A.A.A$.B.B!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 4th, 2023, 8:54 am

b-engine wrote:
December 4th, 2023, 3:36 am

EDIT:
Is this small p5 known?

Code: Select all

x = 5, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
.A.A$A.A.A$.B.B!
It is known,

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by HerscheltheHerschel » December 4th, 2023, 8:55 am

b-engine wrote:
December 4th, 2023, 3:36 am
This may be a long-lived methuselah, but it didn't stabilize even after 100000 generations.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
.6A$A5.A$6.A$A4.A3$B4.B$6.B$B5.B$.6B!
Congratulations, you just found orthogonal trench warfare.
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pzq_alex » December 4th, 2023, 9:16 am

HerscheltheHerschel wrote:
December 4th, 2023, 8:55 am
b-engine wrote:
December 4th, 2023, 3:36 am
This may be a long-lived methuselah, but it didn't stabilize even after 100000 generations.

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
.6A$A5.A$6.A$A4.A3$B4.B$6.B$B5.B$.6B!
Congratulations, you just found orthogonal trench warfare.
yujh wrote:
May 15th, 2021, 12:44 am
pzq_alex wrote:
May 14th, 2021, 11:32 pm
Trenches can also be orthogonal.

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x = 5, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$2.2A$3.2A$2.2A$A$B$2.2B$3.2B$2.2B$2.B!
Known, sorry
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 4th, 2023, 6:05 pm

Weird P128:

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x = 27, y = 28, rule = Symbiosis
2$11.B$7.BA.BA$11.A.A$5.B5.A2.2B$4.BA5.A.A2.B$6.A5.2A2.A$4.B2A$6.A.A6.
A$3.BA.A2.2B3.A.B$3.BA.A.A.A2.B$4.2BA2.A$7.B!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by NimbleRogue » December 4th, 2023, 7:50 pm

A p7298 gun

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x = 42, y = 41, rule = Symbiosis
6$27.B$23.BA.BA$27.A.A$19.B10.B$20.2A7.A2.B$22.B4.A4.A$23.A8.A$31.A$30.
A.B$15.B13.B$15.A$15.2A9.A$26.B4$22.BA!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-cnqy4e5kr6n7c/S2-i3-ay4einrtyz5cejn6cin78
bo$3o$ob2o!

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#14c/85265o
x = 10, y = 4, rule = B2-an3-iqy4iknrtz5aijqy6aei78/S02ck3nqy4eiqrtwy5-ekq6-i78
2bo4bo$3b4o$ob6obo$2b6o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by b-engine » December 5th, 2023, 7:46 am

P85 glider loop using eater 2s:

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x = 25, y = 25, rule = Symbiosis
19.B$18.A$11.A5.2A$12.A$10.3A$B$.2A$2.A3$20.A$20.A.A$3.2A15.2A$2.A.A$
4.A3$22.A$22.2A$24.B$12.3A$12.A$6.2A5.A$6.A$5.B!
It produce some strong sparks that can perturb most patterns:

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x = 62, y = 70, rule = Symbiosis
A$.2A$2A36$5.4A$4.A3.A$8.A$4.A2.A4$56.B$55.A$48.A5.2A$49.A$47.3A$37.B
$38.2A$39.A3$57.A$57.A.A$40.2A15.2A$39.A.A$41.A3$59.A$59.2A$61.B$49.3A
$49.A$43.2A5.A$43.A$42.B!
EDIT:
LCM oscillators using p85:

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x = 41, y = 44, rule = Symbiosis
12.5A$10.BA5.AB8$19.B$18.A$11.A5.2A$12.A$10.3A$B$.2A$2.A2$32.BAB$20.A
$20.A.A$3.2A15.2A18.B$2.A.A27.3A5.A$4.A27.A.A5.B$29.B2.A.A$29.A$22.A6.
B$22.2A$24.B$12.3A20.BAB$12.A$6.2A5.A$6.A$5.B7$9.3A$7.BA3.AB2$10.A!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by HerscheltheHerschel » December 16th, 2023, 9:24 am

torch on pentadecathlon

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x = 10, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
4.2A$2.A4.A$.A6.A$A8.A$A8.A$A8.A$.A6.A$2.A4.A$4.2A2$6.A$6.A$6.A$6.A$6.
B!

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x = 10, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
4.2A$2.A4.A$.A6.A$A8.A$A8.A$A8.A$.A6.A$2.A4.A$4.2A2$5.A$5.A$5.A$5.A$
5.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by b-engine » December 16th, 2023, 9:36 am

Trying to find some uses of the 16-cells queen bee shuttle:

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x = 19, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
17.A$16.A$16.3A$10.A$10.A.A$11.A.A$AB9.A2.A.BA$11.A.A$10.A.A$10.A!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by b-engine » December 24th, 2023, 1:34 am

Probably useless pulsar variant:

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
2.3A3.3A2$A4.ABA4.A$A3.A3.A3.A$A2.A5.A2.A$2.A7.A$2.B7.B$2.A7.A$A2.A5.
A2.A$A3.A3.A3.A$A4.ABA4.A2$2.3A3.3A!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 24th, 2023, 7:39 pm

Boring-looking P13:

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x = 10, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
5.A3.B$4.B.3A$2.B4.A.B$2.A$3.A2.2A$B5A2.B$6.A$3.B2A.B!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by eRroR_6o6 » December 24th, 2023, 10:57 pm

Random probably-known p7:

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x = 3, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
.A$3B$.B3$.B$3B$.A!
And a p19:

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
4.BA.AB2$2.9B$13A$A11.A5$6.B$6.A!
changed it because it was full

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x = 27, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
15b2o5bo2bo$14b4o8bo$14b2ob2o3bo3bo$16b2o5b4o4$14b2o$13b2o7b3o$14bo2bo
6bo$15bo6bobo$17b2o3b2o$2o$bo$b3o18bo2bo$26bo$4bo2bo14bo3bo$8bo14b4o$
4bo3bo$5b4o!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by C_R_116 » December 25th, 2023, 12:45 pm

P64 HWSS Gun:

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x = 44, y = 27, rule = Symbiosis
36.A.A2.A$36.3A.A.2A$35.A6.A$36.A5.2A2$9.A.B.A21.2A5.A$7.BA.A.A.AB20.
A6.A$9.2A.2A21.2A.A.3A$28.A.A6.A2.A.A$29.2B2$26.A$27.B12.A$39.A.A$39.
2A2$.B18.A.A$A19.A.A$20.3A6$19.2A.2A$17.BA.A.A.AB$19.A.B.A!
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