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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by b-engine » May 31st, 2024, 10:53 pm

P66:

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x = 6, y = 4, rule = B3/S23Investigator
.A$A.DH$AD3.A$A2.A!
P18 thumb:

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S23Investigator
A2.A.A$3.2D.A$2.H2.A$.A$2.A!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » June 4th, 2024, 9:54 pm

C_R_116 wrote:
May 31st, 2024, 12:52 am
P34:

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
3.A$3.2A$3.A$8.2A$8.AED2$.E2AE$ED2.DE$E2D.DE$.EDAE!
Reduction:

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = StateInvestigator
2.A$2.2A$2.A4.E$5.E.B3$E2AE$D2.D$E2DE!
Edit: reduced further:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = StateInvestigator
.A$.2A$.A4.E$4.E.B3$2B!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by b-engine » June 6th, 2024, 4:45 am

3-cell p16:

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x = 5, y = 1, rule = B3/S23Investigator
Q.H.Q!
EDIT:
P52 that's actually p36 blinker factory destroying its output:

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = B3/S23Investigator
9.A$9.A$3.A5.A$.A2$Q.H.H2$.A$3.A5.A$9.A$9.A!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » June 7th, 2024, 7:35 am

Just a 128x128 demo pattern for StateInvestigator:

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x = 128, y = 128, rule = StateInvestigator
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by confocaloid » June 7th, 2024, 8:42 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
June 7th, 2024, 7:35 am
Just a 128x128 demo pattern for StateInvestigator:

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x = 128, y = 128, rule = StateInvestigator
Maybe you could describe "interesting" things that can be seen in the pattern?
It seems like every cellstate is used somewhere in the pattern. I can see a number of periodic components. The least common multiple of periods I found so far is 19668933364080 [update 1: 25785971640308880], so the overall period (if it's an oscillator) must be a multiple of that.
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » June 7th, 2024, 9:54 pm

confocaloid wrote:
June 7th, 2024, 8:42 am
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
June 7th, 2024, 7:35 am
Just a 128x128 demo pattern for StateInvestigator:

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x = 128, y = 128, rule = StateInvestigator
Maybe you could describe "interesting" things that can be seen in the pattern?
It seems like every cellstate is used somewhere in the pattern. I can see a number of periodic components. The least common multiple of periods I found so far is 19668933364080 [update 1: 25785971640308880], so the overall period (if it's an oscillator) must be a multiple of that.
This pattern contains many things that are present in my StateInvestigator pattern collection:
  • From top left: P14 gun, G to V-wire, V-wire to ABH wire 2, ABH wire 2 to glider, RT14 reflector, RT14 G-to-LWSS (branch point*), RT14 LWSS-to-G, ABH wire 1, 9-cell spark-to-glider, P1 bouncer, some period-multiplying mechanism, pre-B to glider, 2-cell G-to-HWSS
    • Branch point: RT14 LWSS heisenburp, P8 filter for 3/4 gliders, 2-cell glider reflector (P2), hotcrystal0 syringe (incl. a common BF20H), Fx77 (incl. the standard FNG eater; also releases an extra glider), L112 (incl. RT56 BFx59H, releasing two extra gliders), H-to-MWSS, 68P16 monomer acting as a filter, lightspeed diagonal signal, 9-cell spark-to-glider, P1 bumper, glider to c/7 wire, c/7 wire to glider
  • From top right: P34 gun, Fx95 (incl. RT34 FNG eater), Fx59, Fx43, H-to-G, semi-V (period multiplier), G-to-LWSS, LWSS-to-G, three 2-cell reflectors, double-boat-bit
  • The remaining spaces are filled with oscillators, including:
    • P3-7 LW, MW, and HW sparkers
    • P2-4 1-cell-thick fountains with increasing clearance
    • two P5, P6, two P7, P13, two P15, P22 sparkers from Symbiosis
    • 68P16, Cribbage, P21 HF hassler, Jason's P22, 120P34, Raucci's P38 monomers
    • Extended P4 T-nose and P14 TL hassler, demonstrating the catalyst cells
    • Miscellaneous: P14 (including states 12 and 13), P26 queen bee shuttle, P58 B shuttle, P142 shuttle (based on 2c/3 "pinkline fuse"), P252 (resembling a 1D CA), P67831 PRNG
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » June 7th, 2024, 10:30 pm

How come there’s another P14 gun, with the exact same “special” cells as the normal one? (left is known, right is new)

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x = 25, y = 7, rule = StateInvestigator
3.2E14.2E$E.A13.E2A$.A.A2.2AE7.2A.A2.2AE$A.I5.A9.I5.A$EA2.5A7.EA2.5A$
2.AI.A11.A.I.A$2.E.C13.E.C!
Edit: The original P14 gun can be reduced two cells:

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x = 9, y = 6, rule = StateInvestigator
E.A$.A.A2.2AE$A.I5.A$EA2.5A$2.AI.A$2.E.C!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » June 8th, 2024, 1:41 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
March 2nd, 2024, 6:34 am
Current version of the StateInvestigator files for the "Patterns" folders (Patterns/StateInvestigator):
Tip: you can right-click on the RLE files in Golly to view the notes on the pattern
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by b-engine » June 9th, 2024, 7:51 am

P157 glider gun:

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x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3/S23Investigator
10.E$8.E$10.I$8.E3$15.E2$7.E$E$8.E3.E!
 
The block respawns upon removal (the red killer cells are just to suppress junks)

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x = 34, y = 19, rule = B3/S23Investigator
13.A$12.A6$33.C$11.E$E8.E$11.I$9.E2$E$16.E2$8.E$.E20.C$9.E3.E!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » June 10th, 2024, 10:17 pm

Some sort of P20 thumb:

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x = 4, y = 7, rule = StateInvestigator
A$3QA$2.2A$.2A$2A$A3Q$3.A!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by unname4798 » June 11th, 2024, 7:12 am

How to convert pi to a glider in this situation?

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S23Investigator
7.E2$A$A.A$3A$2.A!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » June 11th, 2024, 7:26 am

unname4798 wrote:
June 11th, 2024, 7:12 am
How to convert pi to a glider in this situation?

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S23Investigator
7.E2$A$A.A$3A$2.A!
Easy:

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x = 8, y = 17, rule = StateInvestigator
7.E2$A$A.A$3A$2.A11$5.B!
Edit 15 hours later: Alternative:

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x = 8, y = 17, rule = StateInvestigator
5.E6$7.E2$A$A.A$3A$2.A5$4.EBE!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by b-engine » June 13th, 2024, 5:28 am

Yet another "omnicatalyst" (i.e. catalyst that can catalyze from all directions):

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23Investigator
.C$.O$CE$.D$.C2DEC$3.C!
The main region for catalysis is at the center, which behaves like eater 3.

(Too lazy to show some examples of catalysis)

EDIT:
A gun is near:

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x = 17, y = 20, rule = B3/S23Investigator
16.E3$8.E3$E$15.E2$7.A$6.A.2A$7.2A3$5.C10.E$5.O$4.CEA$5.D.A$5.C2DEC$7.C!
EDIT 2:
Accidental bipond factory and herschel flipper rotator:

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x = 16, y = 21, rule = B3/S23Investigator
.E3$10.E4$13.A$E12.3A$13.A.A$15.A5$3.C$3.O$2.CEA$3.D.A$3.C2DEC$5.C!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » June 13th, 2024, 4:24 pm

P43:

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
3A$AHA$3A5$5.3A$5.AHA$5.3A!
Edit: Carriers siamese docks:

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x = 11, y = 2, rule = StateInvestigator
H$10.H!
Edit 2 (6 hours later): Weird P47:

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = StateInvestigator
3.3A$2.QAQA$2.AH2A$A.QAQ$.A$2.A!
Rephased to P159:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = StateInvestigator
5.B2$5.B8$3.3A7.B.B$2.QAQA$2.AH2A$A.QAQ$.A$2.A!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by b-engine » June 14th, 2024, 2:43 am

Met this that turns a honeyfarm into a mango and an integral:

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x = 6, y = 11, rule = B3/S23Investigator
3.A$2.A.2A$3.2A3$C$Q$EA$D.A$C2DE$3.C!
The catalyst also keeps the mango from havoc after creation, by suppressing a B that would emit a glider that hits the mango.
This kills a beehive, then restores it shortened:

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x = 7, y = 12, rule = B3/S23Investigator
4.A$3.A.2A$4.2A4$C$Q$EA$D.A$C2DE$3.C!
 
P40 honeyfarm shuttle:

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# Bottom is optimized, top is canonical
x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S23Investigator
7.E2$12.C$12.E2DC$13.A.D$14.AE$.E13.Q$15.C3$8.A$7.3A$Q5.A3.A3.E$EA5.3A
$D.A5.A$C2DE3$7.E!
EDIT:
LWSS to G, RT 101:

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x = 68, y = 17, rule = B3/S23Investigator
10.B3$6.E3$E5$.C6.E$.Q$.EA10.4A47.2A$.D.A9.A3.A45.2A.2A$.C2DE8.A50.4A
$4.C9.A50.2A!
:twisted: P40 partial with completion:

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x = 17, y = 39, rule = B3/S23Investigator
8.E2$13.C$13.E2DC$14.A.D$15.AE$2.E13.Q$16.C2$9.A$2.C5.A.A$7.A3.A$.Q5.
A3.A3.E$.EA4.A3.A$.D.A4.A.A$.C2D5.A3$8.E2$6.E3$12.E2DC$15.D$14.AE$.E13.
Q5$7.3A$Q5.A3.A3.E$EA5.A.A$D.A5.A$C2DE3$7.E!
 
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by C_R_116 » June 23rd, 2024, 3:39 am

Random 4c/6 wire:

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x = 40, y = 9, rule = StateInvestigator
.A$2.A$3A2$5.A$3.A.A2.EOB2EOB2EOB2EOB2EOB2EOB2EOB2EOBE$4.2A3.E3.E3.E
3.E3.E3.E3.E3.E2$8.EQO2EQO2EQO2EQO2EQO2EQO2EQO2EQOE!
Much similar one:

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x = 37, y = 5, rule = B3/S23Investigator
2.A$A.A2.EOB2EOB2EOB2EOB2EOB2EOB2EOB2EOBE$.2A3.E2$5.EQO2EQO2EQO2EQO2E
QO2EQO2EQO2EQOE!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by b-engine » June 23rd, 2024, 6:45 am

G/Spark to spark, and wire based on it:

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x = 120, y = 35, rule = B3/S23Investigator
.A$2.A$3A2$5.A$3.A.A$4.2A$8.A$9.A$7.3A2$12.A$10.A.A$11.2A$15.A$16.A$14.
3A2$19.A$17.A.A$18.2A$22.A$23.A11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E$21.3A
10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$33.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.
EB10.EB10.EB$26.A5.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$24.A.A4.EB10.
EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$25.2A3.CB10.CB10.CB10.CB10.CB10.CB10.
CB10.CB2$31.B11.B11.B11.B11.B11.B11.B11.B$28.E2.EB7.E2.EB7.E2.EB7.E2.
EB7.E2.EB7.E2.EB7.E2.EB7.E2.EB$32.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.
EB$33.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$34.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB
10.EB10.EB10.EB$35.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » June 29th, 2024, 12:20 pm

b-engine wrote:
June 23rd, 2024, 6:45 am
G/Spark to spark, and wire based on it:

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x = 120, y = 35, rule = B3/S23Investigator
.A$2.A$3A2$5.A$3.A.A$4.2A$8.A$9.A$7.3A2$12.A$10.A.A$11.2A$15.A$16.A$14.
3A2$19.A$17.A.A$18.2A$22.A$23.A11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E$21.3A
10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$33.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.
EB10.EB10.EB$26.A5.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$24.A.A4.EB10.
EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$25.2A3.CB10.CB10.CB10.CB10.CB10.CB10.
CB10.CB2$31.B11.B11.B11.B11.B11.B11.B11.B$28.E2.EB7.E2.EB7.E2.EB7.E2.
EB7.E2.EB7.E2.EB7.E2.EB7.E2.EB$32.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.
EB$33.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$34.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB
10.EB10.EB10.EB$35.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E11.E!
There is a slightly smaller way to convert a glider into that signal, but this bumps the repeat time up to 27:

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x = 54, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
17.E11.E11.E11.E$16.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$15.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$14.EB10.EB
10.EB10.EB$8.A4.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$8.2A3.B10.CB10.CB10.CB$7.A.A$13.B11.
B11.B11.B$13.EB7.E2.EB7.E2.EB7.E2.EB$14.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$15.EB10.EB10.
EB10.EB$.2A13.EB10.EB10.EB10.EB$A.A14.E11.E11.E11.E$2.A!
Last edited by hotcrystal0 on June 29th, 2024, 1:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by confocaloid » June 29th, 2024, 12:41 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
June 29th, 2024, 12:20 pm
b-engine wrote:
June 23rd, 2024, 6:45 am
G/Spark to spark, and wire based on it:

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x = 120, y = 35, rule = B3/S23Investigator
There is a slightly smaller way to convert a glider into a signal, but this bumps the repeat time up to 27:

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x = 54, y = 14, rule = StateInvestigator
The phrase 'to convert a glider into a signal' is a misnomer. (If there is some signal of interest that appears in the wire when the shown reaction completes, then the same signal existed earlier, only carried by the glider.)

In the posted reaction, a glider gets converted into a reaction that travels along a wire.
As a possible application, that reaction can be used to inject signals into the wire. A signal carried by a glider can be injected into the wire, and after that it is carried by the travelling reaction.
Alternatively, the same reaction can be used in a simple "physical" construction, without getting the concept of signals involved at all in the picture.
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by hotcrystal0 » July 15th, 2024, 7:23 am

confocaloid wrote:
June 29th, 2024, 12:41 pm

The phrase 'to convert a glider into a signal' is a misnomer. (If there is some signal of interest that appears in the wire when the shown reaction completes, then the same signal existed earlier, only carried by the glider.)

Sorry, I tend to use the term “signal” to refer only to wires and not signals in general.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by confocaloid » July 16th, 2024, 8:03 am

Converted to StateInvestigator. The adjustment is actually by multiples of 4 ticks, not just 8, since the Jubjub reflector can be flipped:

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x = 109, y = 44, rule = StateInvestigator
29.2A$30.A57.2A$29.A57.A2.A.2A.A5.A$29.2A11.A44.A.2A.A.2A3.3A$27.2A2.
A8.3A42.A.A10.A$26.A2.A.A7.A45.2A.A.2A6.2A4.2A$27.A.A.2A6.2A47.A.2A
12.A$26.2A.A.A12.2A42.A13.A.A$30.A13.A42.2A13.2A$42.A.A$42.2A51.3A$
35.3A57.A.A$37.A57.A.A$35.3A6.2A$44.A41.2A$45.A39.A.A14.A$44.2A39.A
15.4A$41.2A41.2A14.A4.A.2A$41.2A.2A55.3A.2A.A$20.A23.A.A33.A23.A$18.
3A18.4A3.A31.3A20.2A.A$17.A14.2A5.A3.3A31.A23.A.A$17.2A14.A8.A34.2A$
10.C19.3A9.2A26.C$30.A5$.2A58.2A$A.A57.A.A$2A58.2A$22.C59.C2$8.2A12.C
45.2A12.C$8.2A58.2A4$2.2A58.2A$3.A10.2A47.A10.2A$3A11.A45.3A11.A$A7.
2A5.3A42.A7.2A5.3A$8.2A7.A8.C41.2A7.A8.C!
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static LH6 subst, n8 trombone

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x = 60, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
35.2A$36.A$35.A$35.2A11.A$33.2A2.A8.3A$32.A2.A.A7.A$33.A.A.2A6.2A$32.
2A.A.A12.2A$36.A13.A$48.A.A$17.D30.2A$16.D.D22.3C$15.D3.D23.C$15.D3.D
21.3C6.2A$15.D3.D30.A$15.D3.D31.A$15.D3.D30.2A$15.D3.D27.2A$16.D.D28.
2A.2A$17.D8.A23.A.A$24.3A18.4A3.A$23.A14.2A5.A3.3A$23.2A14.A8.A$16.F
19.3A9.2A$20.3D13.A$19.D3.D$18.D5.D$18.D5.D$18.D5.D$7.2A10.D3.D$6.A.A
11.3D$6.2A$17.3D8.F6.D4.D$16.D3.D12.2D.4D.2D$14.AC5.D6.F6.D4.D$14.AC
5.D$15.D5.D$16.D3.D$17.3D$8.2A$9.A10.2A$6.3A11.A$6.A7.2A5.3A$14.2A7.A
8.F!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by b-engine » July 16th, 2024, 9:35 am

Signal loop:

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x = 27, y = 27, rule = B3/S23Investigator
5.EB2.EB2.EB2.EB2.EB$4.EB2.EB2.EB2.EB2.EB$3.A$E3.EB2.EB2.EB2.EB2.EB$B
3.BEB2.EB2.EB2.EB2.EBE.E$EB.BE17.EB.BE$.E.E18.B3.B2$B3.B18.E.E$EB.BE17.
EB.BE$.E.E18.B3.B2$B3.B18.E.E$EB.BE17.EB.BE$.E.E18.B3.B2$B3.B18.E.E$E
B.BE17.EB.BE$.E.E18.B3.B2$B3.B18.E.E$EB.BE17.EB.BE$.E.EBE2.BE2.BE2.BE
2.BEB3.B$5.BE2.BE2.BE2.BE2.BE3.E2$5.BE2.BE2.BE2.BE2.BE$3.EBE2.BE2.BE2.
BE2.BE!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » July 17th, 2024, 2:45 am

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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by confocaloid » July 17th, 2024, 7:02 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
July 17th, 2024, 2:45 am
I'm curious what is the reason for 'must' (rather than 'can') in captions "The FNG eater of the output Herschel must be removed if followed by a dependent conduit" in the first page. Keeping the FNG-eating SI cell does not seem to cause troubles in connections like this (L112 + F166), even though the cell becomes unnecessary:

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x = 96, y = 50, rule = StateInvestigator
.3R$R3.R2$R.3R$R.R.R$3R.R2$5R$R.R.R$3R.R2$R3.R$.3R4$E2$2.3A21.R.2R2.
2R2.3R.R$2.A22.R3.R3.R2.R4.R$.3A6.E14.R3.R3.R2.3R2.R$25.R3.R3.R2.R.R
2.R$26.R.3R.3R.3R.R$14.2D3$63.2D2$C93.A$17.2A15.A58.A.A$17.2A15.A58.A
.A$34.3A.2A54.A$36.A.2A26.2A15.A$32.E33.2A15.A$13.E69.3A$8.E76.A$12.E
3.C64.E$7.B3.E.QDR$11.D$14.C$12.E2$61.B$61.D$61.E$50.E4$55.E!
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Re: Extended Life Extensions

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » July 18th, 2024, 12:13 am

confocaloid wrote:
July 17th, 2024, 7:02 am
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
July 17th, 2024, 2:45 am
I'm curious what is the reason for 'must' (rather than 'can') in captions "The FNG eater of the output Herschel must be removed if followed by a dependent conduit" in the first page. Keeping the FNG-eating SI cell does not seem to cause troubles in connections like this (L112 + F166), even though the cell becomes unnecessary:

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x = 96, y = 50, rule = StateInvestigator
.3R$R3.R2$R.3R$R.R.R$3R.R2$5R$R.R.R$3R.R2$R3.R$.3R4$E2$2.3A21.R.2R2.
2R2.3R.R$2.A22.R3.R3.R2.R4.R$.3A6.E14.R3.R3.R2.3R2.R$25.R3.R3.R2.R.R
2.R$26.R.3R.3R.3R.R$14.2D3$63.2D2$C93.A$17.2A15.A58.A.A$17.2A15.A58.A
.A$34.3A.2A54.A$36.A.2A26.2A15.A$32.E33.2A15.A$13.E69.3A$8.E76.A$12.E
3.C64.E$7.B3.E.QDR$11.D$14.C$12.E2$61.B$61.D$61.E$50.E4$55.E!
This is really just an exception, not the rule — it happens that the usual RT 49 state 5 FNG eater doesn't cause any problems with dependent conduits that have the transparent block. Other FNG eaters are not compatible (most notably the RT 34 FNG eater at the bottom, since it is the smallest and has the lowest repeat time of the sub-49 RT FNG eaters):

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x = 73, y = 134, rule = StateInvestigator
A$.2A$2A2$6.DE$4.CD2.DE40.2D$10.E$6.E4.E$7.E13.A$8.E12.A$8.E12.3A.2A$
23.A.2A26.2A15.A$6.B21.E24.2A15.A$6.E4.E15.QC41.3A$7.E2DC10.C4.E45.A$
25.D$23.E2.E$24.DC4$48.B$48.D$48.E$37.E4$42.E7$A$.2A$2A2$6.DE$4.CD2.D
E40.2D$10.E$6.E4.E$7.E13.A$8.E12.A$8.E12.3A.2A$23.A.2A26.2A15.A$6.B
20.E25.2A15.A$6.E4.E15.E42.3A$7.E2DC15.ED44.A$20.DA.ADE$20.DA.AD$21.
3E4$48.B$48.D$48.E$37.E4$42.E7$A$.2A$2A2$6.DE$4.CD2.DE40.2D$10.E$6.E
4.E$7.E13.A$8.E12.A$8.E12.3A.2A$23.A.2A26.2A15.A$6.B20.E25.2A15.A$6.E
4.E15.Q42.3A$7.E2DC9.E5.DC44.A$20.D.D.D.E$19.2E.E.E2.E$19.B2.E.CED$
20.D2.E2.D$19.E3.D2.C$19.DE2.D$20.C2D25.B$48.D$48.E$37.E4$42.E7$A$.2A
$2A2$6.DE$4.CD2.DE40.2D$10.E$6.E4.E$7.E13.A$8.E12.A$8.E12.3A.2A$23.A.
2A26.2A15.A$6.B46.2A15.A$6.E4.E15.Q42.3A$7.E2DC10.C4.DE44.A$24.EDE6$
48.B$48.D$48.E$37.E4$42.E!
And even the state 5 FNG eater isn't compatible with some dependent conduits that don't involve the transparent block, such as R49 and L122:

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x = 75, y = 55, rule = StateInvestigator
71.2A$71.A$69.3A16$69.2A$69.2A$63.D$A45.A16.E$.2A44.2A14.D$2A44.2A15.
D2$6.DE44.DE$4.CD2.DE10.2B28.CD2.DE$10.E45.E$6.E4.E40.E4.E$7.E13.AE
30.E13.A6.C$8.E12.A32.E12.A$8.E12.3A30.E12.3A$23.A5.D39.A3.E$6.B12.E
9.D22.B12.E$6.E4.E40.E4.E$7.E2DC11.2A29.E2DC$22.2A$66.B15$21.3A$21.A$
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