Rules 2 transitions from Life

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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by WhiteHawk » November 13th, 2024, 1:56 am

A rule where the Odd Traffic Stop is even (p28), and the Even Traffic Stop is odd (and prime-period 37)

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x = 41, y = 28, rule = B34c8/S23
8b2o$8bobo2b2o$10bo3bo$6b4ob3o$o5bo2bo17b2o$3o7b2ob3o12bo$3bo6b2obo2b
o11bobo$2b2o8bo2b2o12b2o$35bo$34b2o$7bo27bo$6b2o$7bo3$10bo21bo$10b2o20b
2o$10bo21bo$37b2o$37bobo$b2o2bo8b2o23bo$bo2bob2o6bo24b2o$2b3ob2o7b3o$
8bo2bo5bo$4b3ob4o$3bo3bo$3b2o2bobo$8b2o!
EDIT: This happens with some more stable TL hasslers as well, and means that shuttles increase by 2 steps

Collection so far. Top are rephased by 1 step, middle are rephased by 2 steps, and bottom are completed partials with different sparker support in life (EDIT 4: would like to find more of these)

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x = 284, y = 177, rule = B34c8/S23
154b2o9b2o$154bo11bo$155b3o5b3o$140bo16bo5bo16bo$140b3o35b3o$143bo15b
2o16bo$142b2o14bo2bo15b2o$153bo5b2o$152b3o$151bo2bo$146bo3b5o19b3o$145b
3o3bo2bo10b3o6bobo$145bo2bo3b3o10bobo6b3o$145b5o3bo11b3o$129b2o14bo2b
o41b2o$130bo14b3o42bo$130bobo13bo41bobo$131b2o23b2o5b2o23b2o16bo$156b
o7bo17b3o21b3o$137b5o15b3ob3o18bobo24bo$136b2obob2o16bobo20b3o23b2o$137b
obobo$100b2o36b3o75b2o$100bobo2b2o32bo77bo$102bo3bo29bo80bob2o$57b2o39b
4ob3o29b3o78b2obo2bo$57bobo2b2o34bo2bobo4b2o24bobobo80bob2o$8b2o14b2o
33bo3bo44bo24b2obob2o41b3o35bo41bo14bo$4b2obobo14bobob2o25b4ob3o23bo19b
obo17b2o6b5o42bobo9b2o15b3o5b2o34b2o4bobo12bobo4b2o$5bobo18bobo20bo5b
o2bo27b3o17b2o18bobo52b3o8bobo9bo5bobo18b2o21bobo4bo14bo4bobo$5bob2o16b
2obo20b3o6bob5o24bo38bo14b2o31b2o14bo10bobo4b3o19bo23bo24bo$4b2o22b2o
22bo6bo5bo17b2o3b2o38b2o13bobo29bobo13b2o11bo27bobo21b3o20b3o$3bo3b2o
16b2o3bo20b2o7bo3b2o17bobo14b3o29bo12bo29bo57b2o24bo18bo$4bobo20bobo55b
o14bobo28bobo11b2o27b2o12bo23bo25b3o15b3o20b3o$3b2obo20bob2o54b2o13b3o
28bobo53bobo21bobo24bobo15bo6b3o6b3o6bo$bo2bob2o18b2obo2bo22b3o25b2o7b
3o37bo12b2o27b2o11bobo21bobo24b3o13bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo$b2obo5b3o8b3o5b
ob2o22bobo24bo2b2o5bobo50bo29bo12bo23bo41b2o7b3o6b3o7b2o$4bo5bobo3b2o
3bobo5bo25b3o24b2obo6b3o33b2o13bobo29bobo13b2o$4b2o4b3o2bo2bo2b3o4b2o
55bo25b2o15bo14b2o31b2o14bo22bo$16b2o67b2o25bo13bobo8b3o52bobo19bobo$
58b3o42b3o6bob2o10b2o9bobo42b5o6b2o19bobo18b3o$16b2o40bobo42bobo5b2o2b
o21b3o41b2obob2o27bo19bobo16b2o7b3o6b3o7b2o$4b2o4b3o2bo2bo2b3o4b2o28b
3o42b3o7b2o67bobobo48b3o16bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo$4bo5bobo3b2o3bobo5bo65b
3o13b2o70b3o37bo17b2o13bo6b3o6b3o6bo$b2obo5b3o8b3o5bob2o62bobo14bo71b
o30b3o4bobo16bobo12b3o20b3o$bo2bob2o18b2obo2bo17b2o3bo7b2o30b3o14bobo
66bo33bobo5bo19bo15bo18bo$3b2obo20bob2o19bo5bo6bo44b2o3b2o65b3o25b2o5b
3o25b2o11b3o20b3o$4bobo20bobo21b5obo6b3o41bo70bobobo24bo47bo24bo$3bo3b
2o16b2o3bo26bo2bo5bo23b2o17b3o24b3o20bobo16b2obob2o20b2obo45bobo4bo14b
o4bobo$4b2o22b2o23b3ob4o28bobo19bo24bobo18b3ob3o15b5o21bo2bob2o42b2o4b
obo12bobo4b2o$5bob2o16b2obo23bo3bo32bo46b3o17bo7bo42b2obo50bo14bo$5bo
bo18bobo23b2o2bobo29b2o4bobo2bo31b2o23b2o5b2o23b2o20bo$4b2obobo14bobo
b2o27b2o33b3ob4o30bobo41bo13bobo19b2o$8b2o14b2o65bo3bo34bo42b3o14bo$91b
2o2bobo31b2o41bo2bo14b2o26b2o$96b2o55b3o11bo3b5o42bo$144b3o6bobo10b3o
3bo2bo43b3o$144bobo6b3o10bo2bo3b3o45bo$144b3o19b5o3bo$166bo2bo$166b3o
$160b2o5bo$142b2o15bo2bo14b2o$143bo16b2o15bo$140b3o35b3o$140bo16bo5bo
16bo$155b3o5b3o$154bo11bo$81b2o8b2o61b2o9b2o$80bobo8bobo$80b2o10b2o2$
84b3o$12b2o5b2o63bobo$7b2o3bo7bo3b2o58b3o$6bobo4bo5bo4bobo$8bob3obo3b
ob3obo23bo6bo$5b2obobo3bo3bo3bobob2o19bobo4bobo15b2o26b2o$8bo5bobobo5b
o18b2o3bo6bo3b2o10bobo26bobo$7bobo2b2obobob2o2bobo17b2o14b2o10b2o10b3o
15b2o$8bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo58bobo3b3o$4b2o8b2ob2o8b2o23b3o28b3o3bobo4b3o$
2o2bo23bo2b2o19bobo3bo30b3o4bobo$obobo3b3o11b3o3bobobo11b3o5b3o3bo37b
3o$2bob2o2bobo11bobo2b2obo27bo16b3o$obobo3b3o11b3o3bobobo42bobo4b3o$2o
2bo23bo2b2o25bo16b3o4bobo3b3o$4b2o8b2ob2o8b2o15b3o5b3o3bo23b3o3bobo$8b
o3bo2bobo2bo3bo27bobo3bo12b2o15b3o10b2o$7bobo2b2obobob2o2bobo26b3o16b
obo26bobo$8bo5bobobo5bo47b2o26b2o$5b2obobo3bo3bo3bobob2o15b2o14b2o$8b
ob3obo3bob3obo18b2o3bo6bo3b2o$6bobo4bo5bo4bobo20bobo4bobo30b3o$7b2o3b
o7bo3b2o22bo6bo31bobo$12b2o5b2o66b3o2$80b2o10b2o$80bobo8bobo$81b2o8b2o
10$124bo$16bo107b3o$15bobo27bo7bo38bo7bo26bo$14bo3bo25bobo5bobob2o30b
2obobo5bobo24b2o$15bo3bo23bo2bo4bo2b2obo8bo12bo8bob2o2bo4bo2bo$16bo3b
o22b2ob2o4b2o12b3o8b3o12b2o4b2ob2o$17bo3bo22bo4bo4b3o12bo6bo9b6o4bo4b
o30b2o$18bobo9bo12bo2b4ob2obo2bob2o7b2o6b2o7b4o4b2ob4o2bo16b3o9b3o4b3o
$19bo9bobo10bob2o3bo2bo2b3o2b3o21bo3bo5b2o4b2obo27bo6bobo$28bo3bo10bo
4b2obobo2b2o3b2o19bobo4bo3bo2b2o4bo14bo5bo7b2o5b3o$27bo3bo12bobobobo2b
o8bo2bo15bo8bob4obobobo14b2o5bo$13bo12bo3bo14b2obo4bo8bo10b3o5bo15bob
2o22bo$12bobo4b3o3bo3bo18b3o11bo3bo6bobo5bo3bo11bo16bobo3bo$11bo3bo3b
obo4bobo16b2obo4bo8bo10b3o5bo15bob2o12bob2o3b2o19b2o$10bo3bo4b3o5bo16b
obobobo2bo8bo2bo15bo8bob4obobobo11bo27bo$9bo3bo29bo4b2obobo2b2o3b2o19b
obo4bo3bo2b2o4bo9b2o23bo4b3o$8bo3bo29bob2o3bo2bo2b3o2b3o21bo3bo5b2o4b
2obo34b2o4bo$9bobo31bo2b4ob2obo2bob2o7b2o6b2o7b4o4b2ob4o2bo20b2o12b2o
$10bo7bo25bo4bo4b3o12bo6bo9b6o4bo4bo21bo$17bobob2o20b2ob2o4b2o12b3o8b
3o12b2o4b2ob2o17b3o$18b2obo2bo18bo2bo4bo2b2obo8bo12bo8bob2o2bo4bo2bo18b
o$20bo2b2o19bobo5bobob2o30b2obobo5bobo$17bobo25bo7bo38bo7bo14b2o$17b2o
95bobo$114bo13b3o16bo$113b2o13bo16bobo$129bo16b2o6$138bo$137b2o15bobo
$137bobo15b2o$155bo6$146b2o16bo$146bobo16bo13b2o$146bo16b3o13bo$177bo
bo$177b2o2$172bo$171b3o$170bo$155b2o12b2o$149bo4b2o$149b3o4bo23b2o$152b
o27bo$151b2o19b2o3b2obo$173bo3bobo$170bo$170bo5b2o$153b3o5b2o7bo5bo$153b
obo6bo$153b3o4b3o9b3o$160b2o3$166b2o$166bo$167b3o$169bo!
This also means that there are currently quite a few TL partials due to rephasing of the rotor making the Life-compatible sparkers fail.

EDIT 2: one solved +1 partial (p15 in life supported by Fumaroles, p16 here)

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x = 27, y = 24, rule = B34c8/S23
8b2o2$6bo3bo$6bo4bo$8bobobo$9bobobo$10bo4bo7b2o$11bo3bo$22bo3bo$12b2o
7bo4bo$6b2o12bobobo$12b3o4bobobo$5bo3bobo3bobo4bo$4bo4bobo3bobo3bo$3b
obobo3bo3bo$2bobobo5b3o4b2o$o4bo$o3bo$11bo$2b2o6bobob2o$11b2obo2bo$13b
o2b2o$10bobo$10b2o!
One solved +2 (42 in life, 44 here)

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x = 62, y = 21, rule = B34c8/S23
3bo7bo38bo7bo$2bobo5bobob2o30b2obobo5bobo$bo2bo4bo2b2obo8bo12bo8bob2o
2bo4bo2bo$b2ob2o4b2o12b3o8b3o12b2o4b2ob2o$2bo4bo4b3o12bo6bo9b6o4bo4bo
$bo2b4ob2obo2bob2o7b2o6b2o7b4o4b2ob4o2bo$ob2o3bo2bo2b3o2b3o21bo3bo5b2o
4b2obo$bo4b2obobo2b2o3b2o19bobo4bo3bo2b2o4bo$2bobobobo2bo8bo2bo15bo8b
ob4obobobo$3b2obo4bo8bo11bo6bo15bob2o$6b3o11bo3bo7b2o5bo3bo11bo$3b2ob
o4bo8bo11bo6bo15bob2o$2bobobobo2bo8bo2bo15bo8bob4obobobo$bo4b2obobo2b
2o3b2o19bobo4bo3bo2b2o4bo$ob2o3bo2bo2b3o2b3o21bo3bo5b2o4b2obo$bo2b4ob
2obo2bob2o7b2o6b2o7b4o4b2ob4o2bo$2bo4bo4b3o12bo6bo9b6o4bo4bo$b2ob2o4b
2o12b3o8b3o12b2o4b2ob2o$bo2bo4bo2b2obo8bo12bo8bob2o2bo4bo2bo$2bobo5bo
bob2o30b2obobo5bobo$3bo7bo38bo7bo!
EDIT 3:

Alien TL hassler periods known: 14, 16, 24, 28, 30, 32, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 41, and 44. Funny how the only odd-period ones currently known are also prime-period. Are there any odd-period TL hasslers which are also composite?

EDIT 4: Yup! - Period 35 achieved

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x = 70, y = 68, rule = B34c8/S23
12bo$12b3o$15bo$14b2o2$19bo$18bobo$18bo2bo4b3o$8bo10b2o$7bobo8b2o5bo3b
o$6bo3bo6b2o6bo3bo$7bobo8b2o$2b2o4bo8bo8bo3bo$bobo26bo$bo21bobo3bo$2o
6bo15b2o4b3o$8b2o14bo7bo$10bo$8bobo$8b2o3$3b2o28bo$2bobo29bo$2bo29b3o
$b2o15b2o$18bobo$18bo4$41bo$42b2o$41b2o$27b2o$26b2o$28bo4$51bo$49bobo
$50b2o15b2o$35b3o29bo$35bo29bobo$36bo28b2o3$60b2o$59bobo$59bo$37bo7bo
14b2o$37b3o4b2o15bo6b2o$40bo3bobo21bo$39bo26bobo$39bo3bo8bo8bo4b2o$50b
2o8bobo$40bo3bo6b2o6bo3bo$40bo3bo5b2o8bobo$49b2o10bo$41b3o4bo2bo$49bo
bo$50bo2$54b2o$54bo$55b3o$57bo!
Last edited by WhiteHawk on January 7th, 2025, 11:19 pm, edited 10 times in total.

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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by pifricted » November 17th, 2024, 10:25 am

P84:

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x = 33, y = 33, rule = B3/S23-y4y
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$6b3ob2o$5bo$6b3ob2o16bo$8bob2o15bobo$27bobo$26b2ob3o$
32bo$26b2ob3o$26b2obo8$10b3o$12bo$3bob2o4bobo$b3ob2o$o$b3ob2o$3bobo$3b
obo15b2obo$4bo16b2ob3o$27bo$21b2ob3o$22bobo$22bobo$23bo!

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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by WhiteHawk » November 17th, 2024, 10:21 pm

pifricted wrote:
November 17th, 2024, 10:25 am
P84:
Loopabilility allows 2 of the hassled objects into to the oscillator, becoming P42

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x = 33, y = 33, rule = B3/S23-y4y
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$6b3ob2o$5bo$6b3ob2o16bo$8bob2o15bobo$27bobo$26b2ob3o$
32bo$26b2ob3o$19bobo4b2obo$20bo$20b3o6$10b3o$12bo$3bob2o4bobo$b3ob2o$
o$b3ob2o$3bobo$3bobo15b2obo$4bo16b2ob3o$27bo$21b2ob3o$22bobo$22bobo$23b
o!
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Re: p42

Post by confocaloid » November 17th, 2024, 11:07 pm

Those "moving" active objects are not 'signals' in any useful way, and calling them that is misleading. There is no movement of information across the universe in this pattern; the pattern is just a loopable oscillator.
WhiteHawk wrote:
November 17th, 2024, 10:21 pm
[...] Can include 2 signals to become P42

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x = 33, y = 33, rule = B3/S23-y4y
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$6b3ob2o$5bo$6b3ob2o16bo$8bob2o15bobo$27bobo$26b2ob3o$
32bo$26b2ob3o$19bobo4b2obo$20bo$20b3o6$10b3o$12bo$3bob2o4bobo$b3ob2o$
o$b3ob2o$3bobo$3bobo15b2obo$4bo16b2ob3o$27bo$21b2ob3o$22bobo$22bobo$23b
o!
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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by Period1GliderGun » November 18th, 2024, 4:22 pm

WhiteHawk wrote:
November 17th, 2024, 10:21 pm
pifricted wrote:
November 17th, 2024, 10:25 am
P84:
Loopabilility allows 2 of the hassled objects into to the oscillator, becoming P42

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x = 33, y = 33, rule = B3/S23-y4y
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$6b3ob2o$5bo$6b3ob2o16bo$8bob2o15bobo$27bobo$26b2ob3o$
32bo$26b2ob3o$19bobo4b2obo$20bo$20b3o6$10b3o$12bo$3bob2o4bobo$b3ob2o$
o$b3ob2o$3bobo$3bobo15b2obo$4bo16b2ob3o$27bo$21b2ob3o$22bobo$22bobo$23b
o!
Normal eaters work:

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x = 27, y = 27, rule = B3/S23-y4y
5bo$5b3o$8bo$7b2o2$25b2o$25bo$23bobo$16bobo4b2o$17bo$17b3o6$7b3o$9bo$
2b2o4bobo$bobo$bo$2o2$18b2o$18bo$19b3o$21bo!
It's OK to abbreviate my username to "P1GG," but never, never, call me "pig."

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
[[ STEP 30 ]]

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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by WhiteHawk » November 21st, 2024, 5:03 pm

By corollary of a proof provided in the 1TFL thread, B34e/S234c is 1 period away from Omniperiodicity - missing p29.

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2=blinker
3=caterer
4=mold
5=fumarole
6=P6 Thumb
7=Fourfold Burloaferimeter variant
8=Blocker
9=29p9
10=24p10
11=rattlesnake
12=mold on fire-spitting
13=beluchenko's p13
14=tumbler
15=caterer on fumarole
16=achim's p16
17=honey thieves
18=p18 phase-shifter
19=cribbage
20=mold on fumarole
21=Caterer on 28P7.3
22=77p22 (LOM hassler)
23=112p23
24=2P2B with Blockers
25=30p25
26=70p26
27=116p27
28=mold on 34p14
[b]NO 29[/b]
30=queen bee
31=merzenich's p31
32=gourmet
33=caterer on rattlesnake
34=120p34 Dependent loop (Alien)
35=p35 hfh
36=jason's p36
37=58p37
38=42p38
39=Caterer on beluchenko's p13
40=blocker on fumarole
41=p41 pi heptomino hassler (Alien)
42=P6 thumb on 60p7
43=P43 r-pentomino hassler
44=Mold on Rattlesnake
45=Fumarole on 68p9
46=4-block twin bees shuttle
47=P47 Lumps of Muck Hassler
48=Caterer on 68p16
49=P7 bouncer loop
50=24p10 on 30p25
51=90p51
52=4 molds hassling 8 blocks
53=94p53
54=43p54
55=Pseudo-barberpole on Rattlesnake
56=Blocker on 60p7
57=P57 Herschel Conduit (Alt. Support due to B4e killing Tub With Tail)
58=p58 Emu (Alt. Support due to B4e killing Tub With Tail)
59=p59 Emu (Alt. Support due to B4e killing Tub With Tail)
60=Queen Bee Shuttles Hassling Blinker
61+=Herschel Conduits
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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by confocaloid » November 21st, 2024, 5:07 pm

Any links to source(s)? An explicit mention of the missing period? Any other relevant details or explanations? Any new contributions on top of what was more or less already known?

As it stands, the post looks too much like a low-effort "corollary-snipe" attempt, to deserve a separate post.

Someone else (not me) could write a spambot that would quickly flood the entire board with similar posts.
WhiteHawk wrote:
November 21st, 2024, 5:03 pm
By corollary of a proof provided in the 1TFL thread, B34e/S234c is 1 period away from Omniperiodicity.

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[...]
[b]NO 29[/b]
[...]
127:1 B3/S234c User:Confocal/R (isotropic CA, incomplete)
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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by WhiteHawk » November 27th, 2024, 4:42 pm

Alien p9 based on a a life p9 that fails under B4c, but then is supported by S4z

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x = 15, y = 11, rule = B34c/S234z
2b2o2bo$2bo2bo3b2ob2o$3b2o5bobo$3o7bobo$o2b6obo2b2o$bobo7bobo$2o2bob6o
2bo$2bobo7b3o$2bobo5b2o$b2ob2o3bo2bo$8bo2b2o!

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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by LaundryPizza03 » January 11th, 2025, 6:25 am

Smaller emulators:

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x = 37, y = 6, rule = B3-e/S1c23
17bo12b2o$bobo2bobo4bobo3bobo4bobo4bobo$o8bo2bo9bo2bo10bo$b2o4b2o4b2o
5b2o4b2o6b2o$o2b4o2bo2bo2b5o2bo2bo2b6o2bo$bo6bo4bo7bo4bo8bo!
Another version, and what the heavyweight emulator becomes:

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x = 37, y = 7, rule = B3-n/S1e23
17bo12b2o$2obo2bob2o2b2obo3bob2o2b2o8b2o2$b2o4b2o4b2o5b2o4b2o6b2o$3b4o
8b5o8b6o$2o6b2o2b2o7b2o2b2o8b2o$30b2o!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by get_Snacked » January 14th, 2025, 5:01 pm

p8 in b4i6ks23. there should be many other new things, and i'll apgsearch when i come home.

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B34i6k/S23
b2o$o2bo$o2bo$o2bo$b2o!

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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by WhiteHawk » January 14th, 2025, 6:38 pm

get_Snacked wrote:
January 14th, 2025, 5:01 pm
p8 in b4i6ks23. there should be many other new things, and i'll apgsearch when i come home.
P12 in the rule

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x = 63, y = 64, rule = B34i6k/S23
3o3b3obo5bo2bob3o2bobobobobobo2b3obo2bo5bob3o3b3o$2obob2ob2ob2obob4o2b
3o3b2o3b2o3b3o2b4obob2ob2ob2obob2o$3o2b2obo3bobo2b3o2b3o2b2ob3ob2o2b3o
2b3o2bobo3bob2o2b3o$bob3ob2o4bo3b4o2bobob3o3b3obobo2b4o3bo4b2ob3obo$2b
4ob2ob2obo4b4o2b3obo5bob3o2b4o4bob2ob2ob4o$b4o6b2obo2bob4ob3obob3obob
3ob4obo2bob2o6b4o$b2o2bo2bobobob3o2bobob2o2b2obobob2o2b2obobo2b3obobo
bo2bo2b2o$2bob3obobo4bo2bobo2bob2o2bo3bo2b2obo2bobo2bo4bobob3obo$2b2o
b3o3bob3o2b10ob2ob2ob10o2b3obo3b3ob2o$obo4bobo2bobo2bobo2bob3ob3ob3ob
3obo2bobo2bobo2bobo4bobo$3b2o5bo3b3obob3ob2obobobobobob2ob3obob3o3bo5b
2o$ob2o2b3o3b4o2b3o2bob2obo5bob2obo2b3o2b4o3b3o2b2obo$ob7ob4ob5o2bo3b
ob3ob3obo3bo2b5ob4ob7obo$3o3bobo3bo3bob2o3bo2b2ob5ob2o2bo3b2obo3bo3bo
bo3b3o$o3b6o4b7ob2o4bo5bo4b2ob7o4b6o3bo$2o2b3ob2obob2obo2bob5o5bo5b5o
bo2bob2obob2ob3o2b2o$5bob6o2b3o2bobob4o2bobo2b4obobo2b3o2b6obo$3bo11b
o3bo4b2o3bo3bo3b2o4bo3bo11bo$2bo2bo4b2o2b7obob2obo2bobo2bob2obob7o2b2o
4bo2bo$6o7b3obo4bo4b2o5b2o4bo4bob3o7b6o$2obo5b2o3b2ob2obo7bobobobo7bo
b2ob2o3b2o5bob2o$3bobobo2bob4obo2bob5obob3obob5obo2bob4obo2bobobo$2ob
4o2bo2bobobo2bob2obob2o3bo3b2obob2obo2bobobo2bo2b4ob2o$3b6obobob3o2bo
bo5bo3bo3bo5bobo2b3obobob6o$2ob2obo2b3o2b4obo2bo3b4obob4o3bo2bob4o2b3o
2bob2ob2o$ob2o5bobobobo2bo8bo2b3o2bo8bo2bobobobo5b2obo$6bo3bobo5bo2bo
b2o2b3obob3o2b2obo2bo5bobo3bo$bob4o6b7ob2ob2ob3obob3ob2ob2ob7o6b4obo$
2bo3b6obo2bo2b4ob2o3bobobo3b2ob4o2bo2bob6o3bo$o2bo2bobo2b6o4bo3b6ob6o
3bo4b6o2bobo2bo2bo$o9bo4bob2ob2o2bob4o3b4obo2b2ob2obo4bo9bo$2o2bo3b3o
4bo3b3obo3bob5obo3bob3o3bo4b3o3bo2b2o$b6o2bob3o3bo2b2obob3ob5ob3obob2o
2bo3b3obo2b6o$b2o3b2obo2b2ob7ob3o2bobobobo2b3ob7ob2o2bob2o3b2o$o4bo4b
2ob5obobobo2bo2b5o2bo2bobobob5ob2o4bo4bo$bo2b2o2bob2o2b2o3b2o6bobobob
obo6b2o3b2o2b2obo2b2o2bo$b2obo3bobob2o2b5obo2b3o2bobo2b3o2bob5o2b2obo
bo3bob2o$o2b2obo2bo5bobob2o3bo2bo3bo3bo2bo3b2obobo5bo2bob2o2bo$3bo2bo
b3o2bob3o3b2o8bo8b2o3b3obo2b3obo2bo$bob2obob2o3b2o2b2obob2obobob2ob2o
bobob2obob2o2b2o3b2obob2obo$3bobob6o3bo2bob2o2bo11bo2b2obo2bo3b6obobo
$b2o3bo3bo3b4obo3b2obo2b5o2bob2o3bob4o3bo3bo3b2o$bo2bo4bob2ob2obobob2o
2bo2b3ob3o2bo2b2obobob2ob2obo4bo2bo$obobobo3b2ob3o6b2o2bo2bobobo2bo2b
2o6b3ob2o3bobobobo$bo5bo4bobo4b2o4bobo7bobo4b2o4bobo4bo5bo$b3obobob2o
2bobobo2bobo2bo4b3o4bo2bobo2bobobo2b2obobob3o$bo3bo2bob2obo3b9ob9ob9o
3bob2obo2bo3bo$3ob4o2b3o4b4obo2b2ob3ob3ob2o2bob4o4b3o2b4ob3o$2bo6b2ob
2o3b2ob5obobob3obobob5ob2o3b2ob2o6bo$2b2ob4o2bob2o3bobobob2obob5obob2o
bobobo3b2obo2b4ob2o$3b4ob6o4bo2b2o2bob2o5b2obo2b2o2bo4b6ob4o$b3o3bob2o
bo4b2obo2b2ob4obob4ob2o2bob2o4bob2obo3b3o$4ob2obobobobob3obo2b2o2bob2o
b2obo2b2o2bob3obobobobob2ob4o$o3bob4obob3ob4o3bobo2bobobo2bobo3b4ob3o
bob4obo3bo$b5ob2ob4o3b2o3bo4b3o3b3o4bo3b2o3b4ob2ob5o$o2b3o2bob3ob3ob2o
b2o2bo2b2obob2o2bo2b2ob2ob3ob3obo2b3o2bo$4bo2bo3bo3b4ob2obo2bo2bo3bo2b
o2bob2ob4o3bo3bo2bo$o2b2o3bobo4bo5b2o3bo2bo3bo2bo3b2o5bo4bobo3b2o2bo$
ob3ob4obobo2bob2o2b2ob3ob5ob3ob2o2b2obo2bobob4ob3obo$o4b2obob3o4bob2o
3b3o3bobo3b3o3b2obo4b3obob2o4bo$5bob2o2bo2bob3obobobobo2bo3bo2bobobob
ob3obo2bo2b2obo$ob5ob3o4bo2b8o2bobobobo2b8o2bo4b3ob5obo$3bo2bobobobo4b
o2b2o2bo2bo7bo2bo2b2o2bo4bobobobo2bo$ob2obob3ob3obob2ob3ob2o5bo5b2ob3o
b2obob3ob3obob2obo!

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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by get_Snacked » January 15th, 2025, 11:01 am

partial p24 R hassler in the rule:

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x = 13, y = 6, rule = B34i6k/S23
6b2o3b2o$5b2o4b2o$6bo$9bo$2o7bo$2o!
[[ PASTEMODE COPY PASTET EVERY 24 24 PASTE b! 9 2 ]]
[[ PASTEMODE COPY PASTET EVERY 24 12 PASTE b! 3 3 ]]
EDIT: works in b36ks23
EDIT II: the queen bee is a failed replicator:

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = B34i6k/S23
2b3o$bo3bo$o5bo$bo3bo!
[[ STOP 82 ]]
you can add a block here to make it last another cycle:

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x = 7, y = 13, rule = B34i6k/S23
2b3o$bo3bo$o5bo$bo3bo8$3b2o$3b2o!
[[ T 82 PAUSE 1 ]]
[[ STOP 164 ]]

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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by CARuler » January 15th, 2025, 9:27 pm

in the second (edit: and first) rule
osc (oscillator)
EDIT by dvgrn: The point here seems to be that a phi spark is a p8 oscillator in B34i6k/S23.

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x = 5, y = 6, rule = B34i6k/S23
2bo$b3o$obobo$obobo$b3o$2bo!
Last edited by CARuler on January 16th, 2025, 10:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by get_Snacked » January 16th, 2025, 9:48 am

CARuler wrote:
January 15th, 2025, 9:27 pm
in the second rule

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x = 5, y = 6, rule = B34i6k/S23
2bo$b3o$obobo$obobo$b3o$2bo!
already shown in the first post:
get_Snacked wrote:
January 14th, 2025, 5:01 pm
p8 in b4i6ks23. there should be many other new things, and i'll apgsearch when i come home.

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B34i6k/S23
b2o$o2bo$o2bo$o2bo$b2o!
also, what do you mean by "second rule"?

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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by R2INT » January 18th, 2025, 4:10 pm

An unusually common puffrake in B3-c7e/S23:

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = B3-c7e/S23
5b2o$4bo2bo$5bobo$3o2b3o$o8b3o$obo6bo2bo$b2o7bobo$5b2o5bo$5bo5bo$6bo3b
o$8bo!
EDIT: (2,1)c/17 from B3-en/S23:

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3-en/S23
3b2o$2bobo$bobo$2o!
EDIT2: (2,1)c/31 from B3-k4j/S23:

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3-k4j/S23
o$obo$2bo$3o!
EDIT3: Puffer at (7,5)c/35:

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x = 5, y = 6, rule = B3-k/S236i
2bo$2b2o$2b3o$2b2o$3o$2o!
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Re: Rules 2 transitions from Life

Post by LaundryPizza03 » January 25th, 2025, 3:35 pm

Predecessors to common large still lifes in B3-r/S234y:

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x = 23, y = 5, rule = B3-r/S234y
bo$bo20bo$bo20bo$ob3o17bo$bo17b3o!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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