Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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hotcrystal0 wrote: May 30th, 2026, 6:34 pm More stuff from HDP's spark program:
Complete oscillators:

P216 teardrop sequence hassler

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x = 39, y = 45, rule = B3/S23-a5
14b2o$14b2o$13bo$14b2o$13bo2bo$10bobo2b2o$8b2obo$8b2obobo3bo$12b2o3bo
$15b2o5$36b2o$24bo8b2o3bo$21bo2bobo2b2obobo3bo$22b4obob2obo$19bo4bo2b
o3bobo2b2o$25bobo6bo2bo$16b3obo5bo8b2o$2b2o11bo2bob2o12bo$2b2o12bobob
obo12b2o$4bo12b2obo2bo11b2o$2b2o8bo5bob3o$bo2bo6bobo$b2o2bobo3bo2bo4b
o$6bob2obob4o$o3bobob2o2bobo2bo$o3b2o8bo$b2o5$22b2o$21bo3b2o$21bo3bob
ob2o$27bob2o$22b2o2bobo$22bo2bo$23b2o$25bo$23b2o$23b2o!
Angel partials
Teardrop partials
You should do some searching using the B!

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = B3/S23-a5
2bo$b3o$2o2bo!
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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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ThePlayzr wrote: June 1st, 2026, 6:55 pm
hotcrystal0 wrote: May 30th, 2026, 6:34 pm
You should do some searching using the B!
A 2c/5 orthogonal partial

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x = 6, y = 3, rule = B3/S23-a5
o2bo$2b3o$b2o2bo!
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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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WhiteHawk wrote: June 1st, 2026, 7:57 pm A 2c/5 orthogonal partial

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x = 6, y = 3, rule = B3/S23-a5
o2bo$2b3o$b2o2bo!
For a second I thought you accidentally posted in a thread intended for CGoL since that exact same 2c/5o tagalong works in CGoL. That being said, is there any spaceship here that supports it?
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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hotcrystal0 wrote: June 1st, 2026, 8:18 pm
WhiteHawk wrote: June 1st, 2026, 7:57 pm A 2c/5 orthogonal partial

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x = 6, y = 3, rule = B3/S23-a5
o2bo$2b3o$b2o2bo!
For a second I thought you accidentally posted in a thread intended for CGoL since that exact same 2c/5o tagalong works in CGoL. That being said, is there any spaceship here that supports it?
This one does!

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x = 23, y = 49, rule = B3/S23-a5
3b2o10b2o$b2obo3b4o3bob2o$b3obo3b2o3bob3o$2b2o2bobo2bobo2b2o$2b3o4b2o
4b3o$b2o2b4o2b4o2b2o$o2b2o4b2o4b2o2bo$b2o3bobo2bobo3b2o$b2o2bo3b2o3bo
2b2o$5bo8bo$6b8o$4b2o8b2o$2b3obo2b2o2bob3o$b2obo3b4o3bob2o$b2obobo2b2o
2bobob2o$b2o14b2o$3b3o2bo2bo2b3o$bo4bobo2bobo4bo$2b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o$3bo
2b8o2bo$2b3o2bo4bo2b3o$8bo2bo$8b4o$5bob2o2b2obo$5bo8bo$6bob4obo$5bo2b
o2bo2bo$5bo2bo2bo2bo$4bobo6bobo$6bo6bo$4bobo6bobo$5bo8bo$6bo6bo2$5b2o
6b2o$4b2o8b2o$4b3o2b2o2b3o$5bo2bo2bo2bo$5bobo4bobo$5bo2bo2bo2bo$5bobo
4bobo$8bo2bo$3bob3o4b3obo$2b4o8b4o$2bo2b2obo2bob2o2bo$4b2o2b4o2b2o$3b
o3b2o2b2o3bo3b3o$3b2obob4obob2o5bo$3bo5b2o5bo2b2obo!
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Edit: found smaller result in qfinddump_stdin, replaced above.
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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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New p14 from D8_1 (I thought it was trivial at first), discovered by me at 06:35:08 this morning.

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x = 23, y = 23, rule = B3/S23-a5
b2o17b2o$o2bo6bobo6bo2bo$obo3bo2b2ob2o2bo3bobo$bo5b2obobob2o5bo$5b2ob
obobobob2o$4bobobobobobobobo$2bob2o2bobobobo2b2obo$3bo4bobobobo4bo$3b
5obo3bob5o$2bo5bo5bo5bo$b7o7b7o2$b7o7b7o$2bo5bo5bo5bo$3b5obo3bob5o$3b
o4bobobobo4bo$2bob2o2bobobobo2b2obo$4bobobobobobobobo$5b2obobobobob2o
$bo5b2obobob2o5bo$obo3bo2b2ob2o2bo3bobo$o2bo6bobo6bo2bo$b2o17b2o!
Monomerised:

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B3/S23-a5
b2o$o2bo4b3o$obo4b2obo$bo3bo2bobobo$6bobobob3o$3bo2bobobobobo$4b2o2bob
o$2bo5bobo$b7obo$bo6bo$b7o2$3b3o$4bo$4b2o!
It bears similarity to SKOP 11, with a loaf being converted to xp2_69b7 (which might need a name) and back.
It also gives off very weak sparks.

p5 T-nose:

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23-a5
b2ob2o2b3o2b2ob2o$obobo3bobo3bobobo$2o2bobo2bo2bobo2b2o$4bob7obo$4obo
7bob4o$o3bo2b2ob2o2bo3bo$2b2o4bobo4b2o$3bobo2bobo2bobo$2obob3o3b3obob
2o$ob2o11b2obo$2obob3o3b3obob2o$3bobo2bobo2bobo$2b2o4bobo4b2o$o3bo2b2o
b2o2bo3bo$4obo7bob4o$4bob7obo$2o2bobo2bo2bobo2b2o$obobo3bobo3bobobo$b
2ob2o2b3o2b2ob2o!
Monomerisation (unfortunately cannot reflect Ts):

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x = 19, y = 9, rule = B3/S23-a5
b2ob2o2b3o2b2ob2o$obobo3bobo3bobobo$bo2bobo2bo2bobo2bo$4bob7obo$5bo7bo
$7b2ob2o$8bobo$8bobo$9bo!
Simple p4 which looks easy to synthesise:

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x = 15, y = 7, rule = B3/S23-a5
4b3ob3o2$7bo$2bo3bobo3bo$bob2o2bo2b2obo$bo11bo$2o11b2o!
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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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PK22 wrote: June 2nd, 2026, 2:26 pm Monomerisation (unfortunately cannot reflect Ts):

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x = 19, y = 9, rule = B3/S23-a5
b2ob2o2b3o2b2ob2o$obobo3bobo3bobobo$bo2bobo2bo2bobo2bo$4bob7obo$5bo7bo
$7b2ob2o$8bobo$8bobo$9bo!
Reduced monomer:

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x = 19, y = 7, rule = B3/S23-a5
4b2o2b3o2b2o$4bo3bobo3bo$b2obobo2bo2bobob2o$obobob7obobobo$bo3bo7bo3b
o$6b3o2bo$8bo2b2o!
Just wondering, what do you all think the next oscillator period to be discovered will be and how will it be discovered?

Edit: I spent some time going crazy over this P17 partial earlier:

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x = 140, y = 33, rule = B3/S23-a5
126b2o$125bobo$122bo2bo$121bobob2o8bo$122b2o2bo7bobo$7b2o23b2o24b2o27b
2o36bo8bobo$6bobo22bobo23bobo26bobo31b3obobo3b3o2bo$3bo2bo21bo2bo22bo
2bo25bo2bo32bo2b2obo5bo$2bobob2o19bobob2o20bobob2o23bobob2o8b2o21b2o8b
obo$3b2o2bo20b2o2bo21b2o2bo6bo17b2o2bo7bobo31b3o$6bo24bo25bo28bo8b2o30b
2o$b3obobo18b3obobo19b3obobo3b3o16b3obobo3b3o31bo2bo$o2b2obo18bo2b2ob
o19bo2b2obo5bo16bo2b2obo5bo21b2o9b4o9b2o$2o9bo13b2o9bo14b2o8bobo16b2o
8bobo20bobo9bo7b4o2bo$10bobo22bobo23b3o26b3o17bo2bo18bobob3o$9bobo22b
obo22b2o27b2o19bobob2o8b2o7b3o$8bobo22bobo21bo2bo25bo2bo20b2o2bo7bobo
7bo2b2o$9bo24bo9b2o11b4o9b2o14b4o9b2o12bo8b2o8b2obobo$39bob2o2bo11bo7b
4o2bo14bo7b4o2bo7b3obobo3b3o12bo2bo$38bobob3o10bo8bobob3o22bobob3o7bo
2b2obo5bo11bobo$39bo24b3o17b2o7b3o11b2o8bobo11b2o$38bo2b2o21bo2b2o14b
o2bo6bo2b2o19b3o$38b2obobo20b2obobo14b2o7b2obobo16b2o$39bo2bo22bo2bo25b
o2bo15bo2bo$37bobo23bobo26bobo18b4o9b2o$37b2o24b2o27b2o19bo7b4o2bo$120b
obob3o$111b2o7b3o$110bo2bo6bo2b2o$111b2o7b2obobo$121bo2bo$119bobo$119b
2o!
Also, some more miscellaneous T reactions (leftmost one creates a climbing C, rightmost one creates a loop):

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x = 63, y = 16, rule = B3/S23-a5
58bo$58bo$3bo8bo$2obo8bob2o41b3o$3bo8bo2$27bo$6bo21b2o$6bo20bo6b3o3bo
$5bobo32bo20bo$35bo4bo20b2o$35bo25bo$54b2o$53bobo$53bo$52b2o!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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I think we should look more into T syntheses and (both glider and T, perhaps a mix of both) assisted syntheses, as those will likely help with guns since most smaller guns shoot Ts and not gliders. For example, here is a sparker-assisted 3T-to-F (base reaction from 3T_stdin) which unfortunately does not work with P248 due to the far right T needing somewhat of an edgeshoot, which isn’t doable with the standard reflect reaction at factors of 248 (though it is doable at other periods):

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x = 27, y = 33, rule = B3/S23-a5
4b3o$4b2o$3bobob2o$5bo$2b2obobo$5b2o$4b3o8bo$14b3o5$4bo$5b2o$4bo17bo$
22bob2o$22bo7$13b2o$13b2o$11b2o2b2o$11b2o2b2o$11b2o2b2o$11b2o2b2o$11b
2o2b2o$11b2o2b2o$13b2o$13b2o!
Can someone run a 4T_stdin and a 5T?
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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hotcrystal0 wrote: June 3rd, 2026, 4:40 pm Can someone run a 4T_stdin and a 5T?
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PK22 wrote: June 2nd, 2026, 2:26 pm It bears similarity to SKOP 11, with a loaf being converted to xp2_69b7 (which might need a name) and back.
How about honey, since it's loaf (toast) related like mold, jam and butter?

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#C [[ THEME Golly ]]
x = 27, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
8.A$A6.A.A$3A4.BA2B.B2D$3.A4.2B.2B2DB$2.2A2.3B.6B2.3B$2.20B$4.19B$4.2B
C10BD4B$4.2B2C10BD4B$4.B2C11B2D3B$4.13B2D4B$5.12BD3B.B2A$6.13B3.BA.A$
6.3B.B3.B10.A$25.2A!
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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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Here’s a catalyst that functions similarly to eater 5 from CGoL (top is the normal catalysis reaction, bottom is more complex reactions):

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x = 53, y = 28, rule = B3/S23-a5
22bo15bo13bo$22bo12bobo13bo$23bo13bo13bo$22b2o12b2o12b2o2$5bo16bo13bo
13bo$4bobo14bobo11bobo11bobo$2obob2o10b2obob2o7b2obob2o7b2obob2o$bobo
14bobo11bobo11bobo$bobo14bobo11bobo11bobo$2bo16bo13bo13bo4$50bo$50bob
o$51bo$21bo25b2o$22bo11b2o11bo2bo$22bo10bo3bo12bo$22b2o12b2o12b2o2$22b
o13bo13bo$21bobo11bobo11bobo$17b2obob2o7b2obob2o7b2obob2o$18bobo11bob
o11bobo$18bobo11bobo11bobo$19bo13bo13bo!
It can eat gliders:

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x = 7, y = 14, rule = B3/S23-a5
2bo$3bo$b3o6$5bo$4bobo$2obob2o$bobo$bobo$2bo!
I6_I6 wrote: Yesterday, 11:05 am How about honey, since it's loaf (toast) related like mold, jam and butter?
Maybe. There is a decent amount of bee-related terminology in CGoL that honey could be confused for, but like the situation with the bee (spaceship in this rule), honey surprisingly isn’t taken. Are there any other bread-related names that could work?

Edit: Unrelated, but more teardrop partials:
P76; likely impossible

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x = 23, y = 23, rule = B3/S23-a5
$8b2o2$8bo$8bob2o$8bo4$ob3o11bo$o15bo$3bo15bo$3bo11b3obo4$11bo$8b2obo$
11bo2$10b2o!
P156 (loaves need to be deleted); likely impossible

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x = 30, y = 30, rule = B3/S23-a5
15bo2$16b2o$15bob2o$15bo2b2o$18b2o$12b2o4b2o$11bo5b2o$11b2o3bob2o$12b
6o$13b3obo3bob3o$7b2o12b6o$6bob2o9b2obo3b2o$6bo2b2o9b2o5bo$9b2o8b2o4b
2o2bo$o2b2o4b2o8b2o$2bo5b2o9b2o2bo$2b2o3bob2o9b2obo$3b6o12b2o$4b3obo3b
ob3o$12b6o$10b2obo3b2o$11b2o5bo$10b2o4b2o$10b2o$10b2o2bo$11b2obo$12b2o
2$14bo!
P92; the sparks are done but junk cleanup seems impossible

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x = 33, y = 33, rule = B3/S23-a5
24b2o$24b2o$22b2o2b2o$22b2o2b2o$22b2o2b2o$22b2o2b2o$22b2o2b2o$22b2o2b
2o$15bo8b2o$13bobo8b2o$14b2o$26bo$26b2o$9bo14bo$10bo9b2o5b2obo$8b3o9b
obob2o2bo2bo$21bobo2b3obo$27bobob2o$21bo2b2o3b2o$24b2ob2o$14b2o12bo$14b
obobo3b2ob2ob2o$2b6o7bo5bobo2bob2o$2b6o8bo4b2ob4o$2o6b2o3bobo2b2o3bob
o$2o6b2o5bo2b2obob2o$2b6o3b2o3bo4b3o$2b6o4bobob2obo3bo$14b3o2b4o$17b2o
2b2o$14bobobo$15bobo$17bo!
P198; not sure if possible

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x = 26, y = 26, rule = B3/S23-a5
8bobo4bobo2$14b2o$14bobo$15b2o2$12b2obo$13b3o$o8b2o14bo$8bobo10b2o$o7b
2o8b2obobobo$18bo3b2o$6bo11b2o$6b2o11bo$2b2o3bo$obobob2o8b2o7bo$3b2o10b
obo$o14b2o8bo$10b3o$10bob2o2$9b2o$9bobo$10b2o2$8bobo4bobo!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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hotcrystal0 wrote: Yesterday, 3:58 pm
I6_I6 wrote: Yesterday, 11:05 am How about honey, since it's loaf (toast) related like mold, jam and butter?
Maybe. There is a decent amount of bee-related terminology in CGoL that honey could be confused for, but like the situation with the bee (spaceship in this rule), honey surprisingly isn’t taken. Are there any other bread-related names that could work?
Maybe "crust"? It's better in my opinion, and AFAIK there's nothing for it to be confused for.

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#C [[ THEME Golly ]]
x = 27, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
8.A$A6.A.A$3A4.BA2B.B2D$3.A4.2B.2B2DB$2.2A2.3B.6B2.3B$2.20B$4.19B$4.2B
C10BD4B$4.2B2C10BD4B$4.B2C11B2D3B$4.13B2D4B$5.12BD3B.B2A$6.13B3.BA.A$
6.3B.B3.B10.A$25.2A!
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Re: Travelling Ts(b3s23-a5) and its variants

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I6_I6 wrote: Today, 1:09 am
hotcrystal0 wrote: Yesterday, 3:58 pm Are there any other bread-related names that could work?
Maybe "crust"? It's better in my opinion, and AFAIK there's nothing for it to be confused for.
Maybe, but what about simply "sliced bread"? Although it's not as simple as crust, crust sounds like it would be smaller than a loaf. This means we could call the p11 a p11 bread cutter and the p14 a p14 bread cutter.
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