About the other rules

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Pigeonbee
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About the other rules

Post by Pigeonbee » March 27th, 2016, 12:26 pm

Are there names for other rules, and known methulsahs and such?
And how do we check the similar ones to see if they work? becuase I've been experimenting, and some rules apparently only allow for very simple still lifes (B6/S23) or only allow blinkers. (Can't remember the rule that does this)

For example, the rules B38/S23 and B37/S23 are very similar to ordinary life, but I can't figure out what the unique thing about them are (By which I mean like the replicators of HiLife)

Could somebody do some experimenting for me in the rules B38/S23 and B37/S23 and see what they do?
I am riveted by really, really long-lasting methuselahs.
Trying to seach for them in golly by placing random blocks and hoping for the best, and also by modding existing ones.

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Re: About the other rules

Post by drc » March 27th, 2016, 12:33 pm

B37/S23 is called Drylife. None of the XWSSes work in this rule. It is also explosive.

Two r-pentominoes do this:

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x = 3, y = 11, rule = B37/S23
2o$b2o$bo6$bo$b2o$2o!

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TheoSwartz
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Re: About the other rules

Post by TheoSwartz » March 27th, 2016, 1:17 pm

Is this your first time venturing into other rules? You can find a list of many named ones here on the Life Wiki.

Here you can find the names of basic methuselahs for Life. If you're looking for Methuselahs in other rules, I'm not sure where to find that myself. I'd like to think that the term would only apply to non-exploding rules though.

I presume you already know how to change the ruleset in Golly to check different rules, but just in case this is not the case, you click Control -> Set Rule... and type the rule name exactly as you have in this thread.
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Re: About the other rules

Post by muzik » March 27th, 2016, 2:56 pm

Also in Drylife, twin bees become this well-known puffer:

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x = 11, y = 3, rule = B37/S23
2obo3bob2o$b3o3b3o$2bo5bo!

The loafer and copperhead also work (the copperhead a bit differently):

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x = 23, y = 13, rule = B37/S23
b2o2bob2o8b2o$o2bo2b2o8b4o$bobo13b2o$2bo12b6o$8bo7b4o$6b3o$5bo9b2o2b2o
$6bo6b2obo2bob2o$7b2o7bo2bo3$17b2o$17b2o!
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Re: About the other rules

Post by Pigeonbee » March 28th, 2016, 11:19 am

TheoSwartz wrote:Is this your first time venturing into other rules? You can find a list of many named ones here on the Life Wiki.

Here you can find the names of basic methuselahs for Life. If you're looking for Methuselahs in other rules, I'm not sure where to find that myself. I'd like to think that the term would only apply to non-exploding rules though.

I presume you already know how to change the ruleset in Golly to check different rules, but just in case this is not the case, you click Control -> Set Rule... and type the rule name exactly as you have in this thread.
It's sort of my first time messing about with different rules, I guess. I've only really been messing about with GoL, HiLife and Maze, and also a bit of StarWars (345/2/4).

I've been using GoL stuff for a while now, (A few years) so I know the wiki and the basics of Golly.
Thank you though, I understand that you're trying to be helpful

(I hope I don't sound patronising, sorry if I do)
I am riveted by really, really long-lasting methuselahs.
Trying to seach for them in golly by placing random blocks and hoping for the best, and also by modding existing ones.

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Re: About the other rules

Post by Pigeonbee » March 28th, 2016, 11:38 am

I found a strange rule:
23/28/256
EDR (Explode, Decay, Repeat)
Explodes, decays, then repeats.
it's intresting.
I am riveted by really, really long-lasting methuselahs.
Trying to seach for them in golly by placing random blocks and hoping for the best, and also by modding existing ones.

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