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Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 29th, 2017, 8:16 pm
by AforAmpere
First knightship in a B2a rule? (2,1)c/7
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x = 2, y = 5, rule = B2ain3aceny4-aeirz5jknry6aek8/S02n3c4kry5inr6i
o2$bo2$bo!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 29th, 2017, 8:22 pm
by wwei23
I wonder what this will do:
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 29th, 2017, 8:23 pm
by AforAmpere
4c/7! Finally, I think this is the second velocity between c and c/2 that is not a 2c/3. Can someone confirm this?
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x = 4, y = 1, rule = B2-ek3ack4acrtw5eijk6-in7/S03ei4aj5eijq6k
2obo!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 29th, 2017, 8:29 pm
by wwei23
drc wrote:Potential p652 in a rule that borders on explosive, but doesn't explode
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3_S235e
2o$b2o$2o$o!
What's with all the small lakes? Also, why do the honey farms have tubs in the middle?
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 29th, 2017, 9:56 pm
by Gamedziner
wwei23 wrote:What's with all the small lakes? Also, why do the honey farms have tubs in the middle?
For the honey farms, the interaction that destroys the tub cannot occur here due to s5e. Interestingly, this interaction only occurs once (between T = 11 and T = 12 in the code below) for both tub destruction and usage of s5e.
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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3_S235e
2bo$b3o$o3bo$b3o$2bo!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 29th, 2017, 10:25 pm
by praosylen
AforAmpere wrote:First knightship in a B2a rule? (2,1)c/7
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x = 2, y = 5, rule = B2ain3aceny4-aeirz5jknry6aek8/S02n3c4kry5inr6i
o2$bo2$bo!
This is really interesting! I don't know of any others, but I feel like a p5 knightship might be possible in Live Free or Die (based on preliminary JLS searches, although I may not be remembering correctly).
AforAmpere wrote:4c/7! Finally, I think this is the second velocity between c and c/2 that is not a 2c/3. Can someone confirm this?
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x = 4, y = 1, rule = B2-ek3ack4acrtw5eijk6-in7/S03ei4aj5eijq6k
2obo!
I know of two others, both in B0 rules (5c/8 orthogonal and 3c/4 diagonal, although I don't remember where I saw the former). I feel like I've seen a 3c/4 or a 3c/5 somewhere before, too, but I don't remember for sure. Anyway, that's a pretty good discovery, and definitely the smallest possible example of such a velocity. A puffer:
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x = 4, y = 11, rule = B2-ek3ack4acrtw5eijk6-in7/S03ei4aj5eijq6k
3o$2b2o$3o8$2obo!
EDIT: Here's a 3c/4 puffer:
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x = 11, y = 7, rule = B2-ek3ak/S03j4in
3b2ob2o$2b2o3b2o$b2o5b2o$2b2o3b2o$b2obobob2o$4bobo$o9bo!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 30th, 2017, 7:49 am
by Apple Bottom
toroidalet wrote:I would also argue that a new thread be made for B2c3aj4nrt5i6c78/S1-e23enr4aet5-iq67 so it doesn't clog up this thread like its predecessor.
Good idea;
here it is.
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 30th, 2017, 10:00 am
by AforAmpere
This is the only 3c/5 that I know of, found by Wildmyron, but first identified by me (it was found using Wildmyron's script).
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-ek3-ijn4-cjkn5-aqry6en7c8/S02ain3ceiqr4jqw5-ak6an
2bo$o$2bo!
Where did that 3c/4 puffer come from?
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 30th, 2017, 10:03 am
by muzik
Apple Bottom wrote:toroidalet wrote:I would also argue that a new thread be made for B2c3aj4nrt5i6c78/S1-e23enr4aet5-iq67 so it doesn't clog up this thread like its predecessor.
Good idea;
here it is.
...
and the other "it".
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 30th, 2017, 10:13 am
by praosylen
AforAmpere wrote:Where did that 3c/4 puffer come from?
Manual fiddling and luck.
Here's an even more improbable ship:
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x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2aci3aq4j/S03j4i
2bob3obo$5bo$2bob3obo2$o2bo3bo2bo!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 30th, 2017, 10:31 am
by wwei23
Gamedziner wrote:wwei23 wrote:What's with all the small lakes? Also, why do the honey farms have tubs in the middle?
For the honey farms, the interaction that destroys the tub cannot occur here due to s5e. Interestingly, this interaction only occurs once (between T = 11 and T = 12 in the code below) for both tub destruction and usage of s5e.
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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3_S235e
2bo$b3o$o3bo$b3o$2bo!
And the small lakes?
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 30th, 2017, 10:36 am
by AforAmpere
A for awesome wrote:AforAmpere wrote:Where did that 3c/4 puffer come from?
Manual fiddling and luck.
Here's an even more improbable ship:
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x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2aci3aq4j/S03j4i
2bob3obo$5bo$2bob3obo2$o2bo3bo2bo!
Nice! All orthogonal speeds of p4 have been found! Next is a 4c/5 ship.
EDIT, 3c/4 rake:
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x = 31, y = 27, rule = B2aci3aq4j/S03j4i
10$16bo$18bobo$18bo2bo$9bo7bo3b2o$11bo7b2obo$11bo4b3ob3o$9bo9b2obo$17b
o3b2o$18bo2bo$18bobo$16bo!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 30th, 2017, 10:44 am
by muzik
AforAmpere wrote:Nice! All orthogonal speeds of p4 have been found!
...assuming you don't count larger than life rules.
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 30th, 2017, 10:47 am
by AforAmpere
muzik wrote:AforAmpere wrote:Nice! All orthogonal speeds of p4 have been found!
...assuming you don't count larger than life rules.
Yeah, I'm not going to do stuff like this 10c/4, I only mean R1 rules:
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x = 4, y = 8, rule = R4,C0,M0,S8..9,B8..9,NM:P2000,2000
b2o$3o$4o$b2o$4o$4o$4o$4o!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 30th, 2017, 11:15 am
by toroidalet
wwei23 wrote:Gamedziner wrote:wwei23 wrote:What's with all the small lakes? Also, why do the honey farms have tubs in the middle?
For the honey farms, the interaction that destroys the tub cannot occur here due to s5e. Interestingly, this interaction only occurs once (between T = 11 and T = 12 in the code below) for both tub destruction and usage of s5e.
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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3_S235e
2bo$b3o$o3bo$b3o$2bo!
And the small lakes?
sigh...
The small lakes occur from the T, a really common pattern in almost any rule close to B3/S23.
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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B3/S235e
3o$bo!
A replicator wave:
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x = 147, y = 4, rule = B34c/S23-c4e
bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo8bo$obo6bobo6bobo6bobo
6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo$obo
6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo
6bobo6bobo$obo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo
6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo6bobo!
Remember these 2 cool puffers?
23c/84:
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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B34z/S236ei
2bo$b3o$o3bo$2ob2o!
19c/111:
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3-k4z/S236e8
bo$obo$obo$obo!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 31st, 2017, 12:58 pm
by praosylen
The smallest possible ship (by single phase) in a B1e rule:
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x = 2, y = 3, rule = B1e2c4/S2a
o$bo$2o!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 31st, 2017, 1:12 pm
by drc
Trippy thing in related rule:
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x = 2, y = 3, rule = B1e4r/S2a
o$bo$2o!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 31st, 2017, 2:10 pm
by drc
I engineered a p6 and p12 gun:
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x = 9, y = 85, rule = B1e4ci5i/S02a3ai4q5i
2b2o$2b2o2$2o5b2o$2o5b2o3$4bo$2o5b2o$2o5b2o4$2o2bo2b2o$2o5b2o3$2o$2o$
2o$2o5b2o$2o2bo2b2o4$2o5b2o$2o5b2o$4bo3$2o5b2o$2o5b2o2$2b2o$2b2o16$2b
2o$2b2o2$2o5b2o$2o5b2o4$2o5b2o$2o5b2o4$2o2bo2b2o$2o5b2o3$2o$2o$2o$2o5b
2o$2o2bo2b2o4$2o5b2o$2o5b2o4$2o5b2o$2o5b2o2$2b2o$2b2o!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 31st, 2017, 2:34 pm
by muzik
Funny how their speed is also their appearence.
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 31st, 2017, 8:04 pm
by toroidalet
muzik wrote:Funny how their speed is also their appearence.
I didn't get this.
Nice oscillator in a rule containing A for Awesome's 4-cell B1e ship:
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x = 24, y = 11, rule = B1e2c4r/S01e2ai3i
19b5o$19bobobo3$3b12o6b2o$2o20bo$b5ob8o6b2o$2o$5b2o$5bo13bobobo$5b2o
12b5o!
(yes, I know it's 2 oscillators, don't need to spell this out for me.)
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: July 31st, 2017, 8:11 pm
by muzik
toroidalet wrote:muzik wrote:Funny how their speed is also their appearence.
I didn't get this.
...they travel at c and they look like c?
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: August 1st, 2017, 3:52 pm
by AforAmpere
5c/8 in a non-B0 rule:
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2aci3akn4aekqryz5cjknr6aek8/S03i4r5cn
2bo$o$2bo!
6c/9:
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x = 2, y = 5, rule = B2-e3-aijy4citw5ijkny6-n/S03ejk4cny5ijr
bo2$o2$bo!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: August 2nd, 2017, 1:42 pm
by AforAmpere
C/2 in a B1e rule, does a smaller one exist?:
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B1e2c3er4j5i/S2aek3iqr4aiw5q
obo2$3o$obo!
p24:
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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B1e2c3er4j5i/S2-cn3iqr4aiw5q
b8o$o8bo$o4bo3bo$o3b2o3bo$o4bo3bo$o8bo$b8o!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: August 2nd, 2017, 2:26 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
AforAmpere wrote:C/2 in a B1e rule, does a smaller one exist?:
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B1e2c3er4j5i/S2aek3iqr4aiw5q
obo2$3o$obo!
Yes; one of each kind:
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B1e2c4r8/S12a3ej5e7
3o$bo$obo!
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B1e2c3a6c/S12-e3-ajn4-r56
3o$b2o$obo!
Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata
Posted: August 2nd, 2017, 2:44 pm
by drc
BlinkerSpawn wrote:AforAmpere wrote:C/2 in a B1e rule, does a smaller one exist?:
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B1e2c3er4j5i/S2aek3iqr4aiw5q
obo2$3o$obo!
Yes; one of each kind:
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B1e2c4r8/S12a3ej5e7
3o$bo$obo!
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B1e2c3a6c/S12-e3-ajn4-r56
3o$b2o$obo!
Smaller 1st one:
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B1e2c3r5e7c/S01e2i3j7
3o2$obo!
I think this is the smallest possible
EDIT: Smaller 2nd one too:
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B1e2c3a5k6c/S01e4i
2o$2bo$obo!
I also think this is the smallest possible