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Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 14th, 2017, 11:32 am
by AforAmpere
Slowest B2a ship I've seen:

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x = 5, y = 2, rule = B2acn3acjk4-nt5-ckny6-ac8/S02cen3r4aikq5acr6cin7c
2bobo$o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 14th, 2017, 12:00 pm
by _zM
This 9c/27 is really good for making puffers with.

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x = 7, y = 18, rule = B2e3-ajkr4-t/S23
5bo$3bo2bo$4b2o$o$2o9$2o$o$4b2o$3bo2bo$5bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 14th, 2017, 12:45 pm
by AforAmpere
96c/120 at 148 cells:

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x = 320, y = 28, rule = B2ac5a/S01e
31bo$26b3o4b2o$7bo17bo2bo$2b3o4b2o13bo3bo$bo2bo20bo2bo$o3bo21b3o4b2o
281bo$bo2bo26bo279b3o4b2o$2b3o4b2o299bo2bo$7bo301bo3bo$310bo2bo$58bo
29bo47bo17bo5bo89bo60b3o4b2o$287bo28bo$52bo11bo35bo47bo65bo71bobo$82bo
11bo95bo11bo84bo10bo$82bo11bo95bo11bo84bo10bo$52bo11bo35bo47bo65bo71bo
bo$287bo$58bo29bo47bo17bo5bo89bo65bo$311b3o4b2o$7bo302bo2bo$2b3o4b2o
298bo3bo$bo2bo26bo278bo2bo$o3bo21b3o4b2o276b3o4b2o$bo2bo20bo2bo287bo$
2b3o4b2o13bo3bo$7bo17bo2bo$26b3o4b2o$31bo!
Are there other 4c/5 type ships?

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 14th, 2017, 1:02 pm
by gmc_nxtman
Unrelated, but I like this p26 oscillator in B3/S2ac34eijkrw5cry6ik7:

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x = 11, y = 7, rule = B3/S2ac34eijkrw5cry6ik7
bo2bobo2bo$2ob2ob2ob2o$bo2bobo2bo2$bo2bobo2bo$2ob2ob2ob2o$bo2bobo2bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 14th, 2017, 10:10 pm
by Saka
(7,8)c/41. Just 1/8th a cell of from diagonal

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2i3-ckny4iy5k6ci7c/S2-c3-ak4c5ajr6-ik7e
bo$3o$ob2o!
(Different rule, with (7,6)c/45)
What are the chances?

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3aijqr4i5c/S2-in3-a4cqz5acek6-i8
bob2obo2bo3bobo$3bob3o3bob2o$o4bo3bo2b3o$b3o2b2obo2bo2bo$obo2b3o4b2o$
2o2bobo4bobo$3o3b4ob2o2bo$2b2obo2bob6o$2bobo3bob3ob2o$bo2b2obob3o3bo$
2b3obob3ob4o$2obo8bob2o$3b3ob2o4b2o$2bo2b3o2b2o2bo$3o3b2obo3b2o$ob2obo
2b2o2b2o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 14th, 2017, 11:01 pm
by toroidalet
AforAmpere wrote:96c/120 at 148 cells:

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ship
Are there other 4c/5 type ships?
There's an unnecessary 4c/5 there, so the population is actually 130.

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x = 320, y = 28, rule = B2ac5a/S01e
31bo$26b3o4b2o$7bo17bo2bo$2b3o4b2o13bo3bo$bo2bo20bo2bo$o3bo21b3o4b2o
281bo$bo2bo26bo279b3o4b2o$2b3o4b2o299bo2bo$7bo301bo3bo$310bo2bo$58bo
29bo47bo17bo5bo89bo60b3o4b2o$287bo28bo$52bo11bo35bo47bo65bo71bobo$82bo
11bo95bo11bo84bo10bo$82bo11bo95bo11bo84bo10bo$52bo11bo35bo47bo65bo71bo
bo$287bo$58bo29bo47bo17bo5bo89bo2$7bo$2b3o4b2o$bo2bo26bo$o3bo21b3o4b2o
$bo2bo20bo2bo$2b3o4b2o13bo3bo$7bo17bo2bo$26b3o4b2o$31bo!
A 48c/60:

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x = 53, y = 26, rule = B2ac5a/S01e
23bo$7bo10b3o4b2o$2b3o4b2o6bo2bo$bo2bo11bo3bo$o3bo12bo2bo$bo2bo13b3o4b
2o$2b3o4b2o12bo$7bo4$19bo$25bo11bo$25bo11bo$19bo$49bo$44b3o4b2o$43bo2b
o$7bo34bo3bo$2b3o4b2o12bo19bo2bo$bo2bo13b3o4b2o17b3o4b2o$o3bo12bo2bo
28bo$bo2bo11bo3bo$2b3o4b2o6bo2bo$7bo10b3o4b2o$23bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 15th, 2017, 2:22 am
by AlephAlpha
A wickstretcher in B3/S127

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = B3/S127
2b2o$5b3o$7bo$bo$o4b2o3$4bo$3bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 15th, 2017, 1:56 pm
by AforAmpere
One of the coolest spaceships that I have seen, 4c/59:

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x = 3, y = 5, rule = B2-ak3ejknq4e5jnqy6a/S01e2ik3iy4t5ry6c
o2$2bo2$o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 16th, 2017, 6:21 am
by Saka
(16,1)c/35

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-ekn/S02-i3-acek4ceqty5a6ak7
bo$3o$ob2o!
Nice tail, B

Just did a random soup, got this very near miss

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x = 239, y = 25, rule = B3-ekn/S02-i3-acek4ceqty5a6ak7
2b3o$2bo2bo$bo3bo$bo3b2o$ob2ob2o$bobobo$2bob2o$3b2o10$234b3o$234bo2bo$
233bo3bo$233bobob2o$234bo$234bo$233b2o$233b2o!
That rule also has this wacky lookin 6c/30d

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3-ekn/S02-i3-acek4ceqty5a6ak7
4b2o$4b2o$3ob2o$o2bo$obo$bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 16th, 2017, 6:39 am
by wildmyron
@AforAmpere: That is very cute.

The following results are from the bShip collection at the top of the previous page
Saka wrote:New steepness record:
(14,1)c/31

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-cekn4jz6c/S2-ci3-aek4q5c6ekn
bo$3o$ob2o!
(31,1)c/239

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3-enqy4cqrtwz5ckr6cn7e8/S2-ci3-cek4cintyz5ceij6ac8
2o$b2o$2o$o!
The next shallowest is (17,1)c/41

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2i3-eqy4ijkrw5cekry6in/S2-n3-ace4eiqry5acjkn6ci7e8
2o$b2o$2o$o!
Saka wrote:(7,8)c/41. Just 1/8th a cell of from diagonal

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2i3-ckny4iy5k6ci7c/S2-c3-ak4c5ajr6-ik7e
bo$3o$ob2o!
This one is only slightly closer to diagonal:
(9,8)c/70

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2n3aijnr4jkwy5acr6an7e/S2-n3-aek4ceinqy5eik6-ek7e8
o$2o$b2o$2o!
High period c/2 b-ships:
ortho 26c/52

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2i3acijr4iktwyz5ejk7c/S2-n3-acey4ity5ckq6c
2o$b2o$2o$o!
ortho 24c/48

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3-ekny4eijnqrt5cn6n8/S2-cn3-acek4it5cr6kn7
2o$b2o$2o$o!
ortho 22c/44

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3-ceky4ejw5ek6ac8/S2-cn3ijnqr4nqz5r
2o$b2o$2o$o!
Fastest diagonal b-ships:
diag 9c/32

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2k3-cekn4w5aj6i/S023-acky4i5acir6ac
bo$2bo$b2o$2o!
diag 6c/22 (Not a 5S record)

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3aijkr4qrw5j/S1c2-cn3-ceky4it5ac6k
o$obo$3o!
There are many more interesting ships in the collection and many, many more to be found. I made a very naive estimate of how many different ships there are (in the 2-state isotropic rulespace) which match the first four generations of the b-heptomino's evolution in life, which came to ~200,000. But don't hold me to that as I made some bad assumptions in the calculation - it was just to get a very rough idea. I've also done a similar search with the r-pentomino. Once again there are over 10,000 unique ships (after a weekend long search). There are far fewer examples with "interesting" speeds though.

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 16th, 2017, 6:43 am
by Saka
wildmyron wrote: (31,1)c/239

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3-enqy4cqrtwz5ckr6cn7e8/S2-ci3-cek4cintyz5ceij6ac8
2o$b2o$2o$o!
Argh! I was trying to beat drc's record of (23,1) (or was it (24,1)?) and now there's THIS!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 16th, 2017, 9:44 am
by muzik
Saka wrote:
wildmyron wrote: (31,1)c/239

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3-enqy4cqrtwz5ckr6cn7e8/S2-ci3-cek4cintyz5ceij6ac8
2o$b2o$2o$o!
Argh! I was trying to beat drc's record of (23,1) (or was it (24,1)?) and now there's THIS!
You could always try stabilising Pedetrian Life's (101,3)c/1884 puffer family, that comes out to about (33.66666666666,1).

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 17th, 2017, 8:15 am
by Saka
weird looking' c/8o

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x = 8, y = 3, rule = B2n3-r4r5c/S23-a4ary5i
2bo2bo$8o$8o!
The minimal rule is super stable

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 18th, 2017, 6:52 pm
by 83bismuth38

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x = 7, y = 2, rule = B2ce4a5i/S12aei3ajnr4air5i
3ob3o$7o!
found this wile trying to find an adjustable directions rule. i feel like the best approach is with rectangles that have a signal travelling across 2 edges that expands the shape, and another on the others that shrinks the shape at the same speed.

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 18th, 2017, 7:04 pm
by Cclee
Saka wrote:Adjustable speed wickstretcher in an unusual rule

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x = 42, y = 6, rule = B2i3ainqr4ai5ainy6-i78/S2-a3a4r5ain6-i78
bobobobobo9bobobobobobobobobobobo$12o6b24o$b10o8b22o$12o6b24o$2b3obobo
bo9b3obobobobobobobobobo$obobo13bobobo!
All directions and speeds are possible, actually (except diagonals i think)

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x = 24, y = 18, rule = B2i3ainqr4ai5ainy6-i78/S2-a3a4r5ain6-i78
9bobobobobobobobo$bobobobob13o$24o$b22o$24o$b22o$24o$b22o$24o$b22o$24o
$b22o$24o$2b21o$b23o$2b21o$b23o$2bobobobobobobobobobobo!

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x = 24, y = 10, rule = B2i3ainqr4ai5ainy6-i78/S2-a3a4r5ain6-i78
9bobobobobobobobo$bobobobob13o$24o$b22o$24o$2b21o$b23o$2b21o$b23o$2bob
obobobobobobobobobo!
You could try messing around with this rule.

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 18th, 2017, 7:43 pm
by AforAmpere
A weird C/8, that when run in Golly just looks like a moving square:

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x = 2, y = 3, rule = B2aci4r5i/S1c3eiy4cen5a7e
o$2o$o!
Very fast (8,1) ship:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3aeijr4jry5j7/S2aek3-aeky4aity5an6ckn
3o$2bo$b2o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 20th, 2017, 5:24 am
by Saka
These ships are too sparky

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x = 85, y = 9, rule = B3-ky4ceiy5ky6c7c8/S2aek3ijnqr4y
bo2b2o$4ob2o$o3bobo$3bob2o$4b2o$4bo77b2o$81b2obo$81bobo$82bo!

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x = 4, y = 29, rule = B2i3-cekn4eijrz5ey/S2aek3-acek4cq5ck6n
2obo$b3o$2bo24$2o$obo$b2o!
It's a broom

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x = 75, y = 87, rule = B2n3-eny4eirtz5y6cn7c/S2aek3-acek4tz5ijr6i
73b2o$72bobo$73b2o38$38b2o$38bobo$38b2o42$2bo$b3o$2obo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 22nd, 2017, 8:15 am
by Saka
Now that's wacky

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2i3-k4ijryz5ce6an8/S023-acky4ceqz5-cnqy678
bo$3o$ob2o!
:thonking_foise:

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2i3-ckny4cryz5ey6n/S2aek3ijnqr4cz5ck6cik7c
bo$3o$ob2o!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3aijqr4jz5e6c/S1c2-c3-acey4eqy5ajkn6-i7e8
bo$3o$ob2o!
Crazy 5c/23o ship

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x = 7, y = 6, rule = B2in3-eny4ciqty5ek6-ek7c/S23-ac4eqtyz5ae6aci7
2b3o$2bobo$2bobo$2obob2o$obobobo$3bo!
That rule also has a B-(11,2)c/85

The star of muzik

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x = 55, y = 55, rule = B2n3-cn4cijqrty5aky6-ek7c/S2aek3ijnqr4ey7e
3o10bo11b5o11bo10b3o$o11b3o10bo3bo10b3o11bo$o10b2obo10b2ob2o10bob2o10b
o$27bo8$2bo49bo$b2o49b2o$2o51b2o$b2o49b2o11$3o49b3o$obo49bobo$o2bo47bo
2bo$obo49bobo$3o49b3o11$b2o49b2o$2o51b2o$b2o49b2o$2bo49bo8$27bo$o10b2o
bo10b2ob2o10bob2o10bo$o11b3o10bo3bo10b3o11bo$3o10bo11b5o11bo10b3o!
Um... ok

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-eky4ciqr5cy6c7c/S2-in3-a4z5aen6aik7
bo$3o$ob2o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 23rd, 2017, 11:31 pm
by drc
Is this p18 in B36/S237 known?:

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B36/S237
2b2o$4bo$obobo$o2bo$b2o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 25th, 2017, 8:52 am
by Saka
Saka wrote: The star of muzik

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x = 55, y = 55, rule = B2n3-cn4cijqrty5aky6-ek7c/S2aek3ijnqr4ey7e
3o10bo11b5o11bo10b3o$o11b3o10bo3bo10b3o11bo$o10b2obo10b2ob2o10bob2o10b
o$27bo8$2bo49bo$b2o49b2o$2o51b2o$b2o49b2o11$3o49b3o$obo49bobo$o2bo47bo
2bo$obo49bobo$3o49b3o11$b2o49b2o$2o51b2o$b2o49b2o$2bo49bo8$27bo$o10b2o
bo10b2ob2o10bob2o10bo$o11b3o10bo3bo10b3o11bo$3o10bo11b5o11bo10b3o!
The star of muzik shines again

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x = 35, y = 35, rule = B3aeijk4e5i6ck/S2-in3-any4aciqrwy5jkny6aci8
17bo$4bo5bo5b3o5bo5bo$2b2o5b3o3b2ob2o3b3o5b2o$2bobo3b2obo3b2obo4bob2o
3bobo$bobo12b2o13bobo4$3bo27bo$2b2o27b2o$b2o29b2o$2b2o27b2o4$2bo28b2o$
b3o26b4o$2o2bo25bo2b2o$b4o26b3o$2b2o28bo4$2b2o27b2o$b2o29b2o$2b2o27b2o
$3bo27bo4$bobo13b2o12bobo$2bobo3b2obo4bob2o3bob2o3bobo$2b2o5b3o3b2ob2o
3b3o5b2o$4bo5bo5b3o5bo5bo$17bo!
Side message: Can someone find the original post by muzik containing the star?

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 25th, 2017, 8:31 pm
by AforAmpere
Stupidly slow (2,1)c/272:

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x = 3, y = 6, rule = B2n3-cny4crtz5ackry6c7/S2-ci3-aek4ceiqrty5eiqr6-ae7e8
2bo3$bo$b2o$2o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 26th, 2017, 12:59 pm
by Rhombic
Very interesting puffer - probably not apgsearchable unfortunately.

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = B2en3eij4ir5y7e/S0123-ikq4eqtwyz5ackny6-c
obobobo$o3bo$obobob2o$2b2o3bob2o$o8b2o$obob7o$2bo3b4o$obobo!
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Different apgsearchable rule, with (3,1)/24 knight-wick extender.

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3aijkn4ty5e/S2-i3-aey4cny5iny6a7
obobob2o3bob3o$ob2obob2ob6o$b3o4bob4o$b3obob4obob2o$2bo2bob2o3b2obo$3o
2b2obob6o$2bo2b2ob4obobo$o2b3o3bobo2b2o$2b4ob2obo2b2o$5ob6o2bo$ob2obo
2bo2bo2bo$b2o3b2o2bob2o$2o2bo5bobo$3o3b2obo2b3o$b3o3b3o4b2o$b3ob7ob2o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 26th, 2017, 4:10 pm
by Apple Bottom
Rhombic wrote:probably not apgsearchable unfortunately.
Ooh, a challenge. ;) I pointed out searcher instance at this rule -- it's currently running at a speed of ~1.5 soups/sec. At this rate a 10k soup haul should take less than 2 hours to complete; fingers crossed that apgluxe won't run into any chaotic-growth patterns bringing everything down to a grinding halt.

EDIT: OK, it IS unsearchable; 10k soups yielded a 1035k haul (too large to be submitted). And the number of objects was only about 232k, so reducing the number of soups isn't feasible either. Shame.

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 26th, 2017, 9:54 pm
by drc
Can this be stabilized? It would be fun to see alien switch engines, but none have appeared in apgsearch (probably due to the brittleness of this variant):

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x = 6, y = 4, rule = B3/S236e
3o$bo2bo$5bo$2bobo!
Any other transitions that leave the main switch engine engine intact?

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: October 28th, 2017, 7:48 am
by GUYTU6J
A diagonal replicator

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2n34city5ackny6eik8/S23-a4centy
3o$b2o$2bo!
Related puffer

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x = 145, y = 145, rule = B2n34city5ackny6eik78/S23-a4centy
139b3o$142bo$143bo$141bo2bo$130bo13bo$129bo14bo$127b3o$126bo2bo$126bo
2bo$124b2o3bob4o$123bo7b2ob2o$123bo8bo2bo$122b5o6b3o$121bo12b2o$119b3o
4b2o12bo$118bo2bo4b3o6b5o$118bo2bo4bo2bo8bo$116b2o3bob5ob2o7bo$115bo7b
2ob5obo3b2o$115bo8bo2bo4bo2bo$114b5o6b3o4bo2bo$113bo12b2o4b3o$111b3o4b
2o12bo$110bo2bo4b3o6b5o$110bo2bo4bo2bo8bo$108b2o3bob5ob2o7bo$107bo7b2o
b5obo3b2o$107bo8bo2bo4bo2bo$106b5o6b3o4bo2bo$105bo12b2o4b3o$103b3o4b2o
12bo$102bo2bo4b3o6b5o$102bo2bo4bo2bo8bo$100b2o3bob5ob2o7bo$99bo7b2ob5o
bo3b2o$99bo8bo2bo4bo2bo$98b5o6b3o4bo2bo$97bo12b2o4b3o$95b3o4b2o12bo$
94bo2bo4b3o6b5o$94bo2bo4bo2bo8bo$92b2o3bob5ob2o7bo$91bo7b2ob5obo3b2o$
91bo8bo2bo4bo2bo$90b5o6b3o4bo2bo$89bo12b2o4b3o$87b3o4b2o12bo$86bo2bo4b
3o6b5o$86bo2bo4bo2bo8bo$84b2o3bob5ob2o7bo$83bo7b2ob5obo3b2o$83bo8bo2bo
4bo2bo$82b5o6b3o4bo2bo$81bo12b2o4b3o$86b2o12bo$86b3o6b5o$86bo2bo8bo$
86b2ob2o7bo$87b4obo3b2o$92bo2bo$92bo2bo$92b3o$77bo14bo$77bo13bo$77bo2b
o$78bo$79bo$80b3o40$36bo$35bobo$34bobo$33bobo$32bobo$33bo3$28bo$27bobo
$26bobo$25bobo$24bobo$25bo3$20bo$19bobo$18bobo$17bobo$16bobo$17bo3$12b
o$11bobo$10bobo$9bobo$8bobo$9bo3$4bo$3bobo$2bobo$bobo$obo$bo!
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