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[HotWheels9232]

Why does the rule PreblockCoexistence run so slowly?

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@RULE PreblockCoexistence
@TABLE

n_states: 4
neighborhood: Moore
symmetries: permute

#1: block (B3/S023)
#2: preblock
#3: dot (B3/S)

# Dots only affect the count for corner cells, not the others.

var a={0,3}
var b=a
var c=a
var d=a

# Preblocks don't affect the count for corner cells.

var f={0,2}
var g=f
var h=f
var i=f
var j=f

# Preblocks and blocks treat birth/survival counts the same way (birth = to state 1/2, death = to state 0/3)

var l={1,2}

var n={0,1,2,3}
var o=n
var p=n
var q=n
var r=n
var s=n
var t=n
var u=n

#S2/3
1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,1,3,a,b,c,d,2
1,1,1,f,a,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,f,3,3,a,b,c,2
1,1,1,3,3,3,3,3,3,2
1,1,2,f,3,a,0,0,0,1
1,1,2,f,0,0,0,0,0,2
1,1,2,f,3,3,3,a,b,2
1,1,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,2
1,2,2,f,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,2,2,f,3,3,a,0,0,1
1,2,2,f,3,0,0,0,0,2
1,2,2,f,3,3,3,3,a,2
1,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,2

2,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
2,1,1,1,3,a,b,c,d,2
2,1,1,f,3,0,0,0,0,1
2,1,1,f,0,0,0,0,0,2
2,1,1,f,3,3,a,b,c,2
2,1,1,3,3,3,3,3,3,2
2,1,2,f,3,3,0,0,0,1
2,1,2,f,a,0,0,0,0,2
2,1,2,f,3,3,3,a,b,2
2,1,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,2
2,2,2,f,a,a,a,0,0,1
2,2,2,f,3,a,0,0,0,2
2,2,2,f,3,3,3,3,a,2
2,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,2

#S0
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,3,3,a,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,a,b,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
1,3,3,3,3,a,b,c,d,2

2,a,a,a,0,0,0,0,0,1
2,3,a,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
2,3,3,3,3,a,b,c,d,2

#S7
2,1,1,1,1,1,1,l,a,2
2,1,1,1,1,l,2,2,a,2
2,1,1,l,2,2,2,2,0,l
2,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,2
2,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,3,1
2,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,a,2
2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,0,1
2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,2

#B3
0,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
0,1,1,1,3,a,b,c,d,2
0,1,1,2,3,0,0,0,0,1
0,1,1,2,0,0,0,0,0,2
0,1,1,2,3,3,a,b,c,2
0,1,2,2,3,3,0,0,0,1
0,1,2,2,a,0,0,0,0,2
0,1,2,2,3,3,3,a,b,2
0,2,2,2,3,3,3,0,0,1
0,2,2,2,a,b,0,0,0,2
0,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,a,2

0,1,1,1,2,f,g,h,i,3
0,1,1,3,f,g,h,i,j,3
0,1,3,3,f,g,h,i,j,3
0,3,3,3,f,g,h,i,j,3

3,1,1,l,a,b,c,d,0,2
3,1,1,l,3,3,3,3,3,2
3,2,2,l,a,b,c,d,0,2
3,2,2,l,3,3,3,3,3,2

#D1
1,1,3,a,0,0,0,0,0,3
1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,1,3,3,3,a,b,c,d,0
1,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,3
1,2,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,2,3,3,a,0,0,0,0,3
1,2,3,3,3,3,a,b,c,0

2,1,3,3,0,0,0,0,0,3
2,1,a,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
2,1,3,3,3,a,b,c,d,0
2,2,a,a,a,0,0,0,0,3
2,2,3,a,0,0,0,0,0,0
2,2,3,3,3,3,a,b,c,0

#D4+
1,1,1,2,n,f,g,h,i,3
1,1,3,n,f,g,h,i,j,3
1,1,3,2,2,2,2,2,2,3
1,3,3,n,f,g,h,i,j,3
1,1,3,2,2,2,2,2,2,3
1,2,2,2,f,g,h,i,j,3
1,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,0

2,1,1,1,f,g,h,i,j,3
2,1,1,3,f,g,h,i,j,3
2,1,3,3,f,g,h,i,j,3
2,3,3,3,f,g,h,i,j,3
2,2,2,2,f,g,h,i,j,3
2,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,0

3,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,0

Is this the rule table for B3/S235678? I'm making a rule mashup so I want to check. Warning:Don't make the mashup for me

For future reference, a script to generate rule tables for any isotropic rule can be found here.

I'm on a Ipad(as you might know) so I cannot run scripts. My 541st post#6(#79#8##))#)#

[confocaloid]

Why does the rule PreblockCoexistence run so slowly?

In Golly or in LifeViewer? If the latter, then it might be because there is no @TREE section in the rule definition, and rules with @TREE work faster as far as I know.

[Period1GliderGun]

What does it mean when people write "bump" at the beginning of a post?

[hotdogPi]

What does it mean when people write "bump" at the beginning of a post?

The previous post was a long time ago. This has to do with forums and not cellular automata.

[confocaloid]

Is there somewhere a good summary/overview of the current status of Symbiosis, or the best existing way to know that is by reading through the 50+ pages of the thread?

Edit:

Is the snake common?

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x = 200, y = 200, rule = B35/S238
(rle)

The number of occurrences in b35s238/C1 (currently 4687894733 objects generated from 1804483430 soups) for objects with 1000+ occurrences:

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"apgcode","occurrences"
"xp2_7","2522603611"
"xs4_33","1900563057"
"xs4_252","110293691"
"xp2_318c","49833350"
"xs6_25a4","30099131"
"xp2_7e","22118624"
"xs6_356","17406835"
"xs8_6996","15021287"
"xp4_hrh","10272685"
"xs6_39c","3330075"
"xp8_rar","2703009"
"xs8_69ic","1618630"
"xp4_ffff","765917"
"xs8_25ak8","580432"
"xq5_359a953","262296"
"xs6_bd","221978"
"xs8_178k8","52872"
"xs8_312ko","26483"
"xs9_25a84c","18523"
"xp2_2a54","17535"
"xp2_7ffe","12164"
"xs7_3lo","10707"
"xs10_178ka4","10283"
"xp4_6fff","10100"
"xs10_ggka52z1","5846"
"xs8_31248c","5123"
"xs9_g0g853z11","3477"
"xs8_32qk","3170"
"xs12_641j4czx11","2916"
"xp2_62bd46","2843"
"xs10_g8ka52z01","2112"
"xp12_fggzf","1975"
"xs14_04ak871z311","1698"
"xp2_31ago","1689"
"xs16_g88m996z1221","1555"
"xs10_xg853z321","1497"
"xs10_0drz32","1256"
"xs10_0cp3z32","1006"

The snake is xs6_bd, position 16, 221978 occurrences.

[squareroot12621]

Is the snake common?

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x = 200, y = 200, rule = B35/S238
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bob2obobo5bo5b2ob3o3bo2bobo4bob3o4b3o5bo2bo10b3o2bobobob3o6bob2ob2ob2o
bob2ob2ob4o2bob2o5b4o2bo2b3o2b4o3b2obob2o4b4o2b4ob3o3bob6o$b2ob2o2b2o
2bobob3obob4o2b3o4bob2ob4obobo2b2ob2obo2b2ob9o3b2o2bob3o2b2ob2ob3o3bo
b2o2b4obob4obob2o3bo2b2obo2b3ob2obo2b2ob5obo2bob4ob3obo5bob6o2b3o2bob
obo2bo2b3obo$o3bo5b2ob2obobob2ob3o3b4o5b5ob7o2b3o5bobo3bobo3b5o4bob2o
b2obo2b2o3bob2o4b4o2b2o5bo2bo2b5o2bo3bobobobob2obo2bo2bo2bo2bob5obo3b
o3b4o2b3o3b4o2b2ob3o$6ob2o2bo4bobo2bob5o3b2ob3o2b2o6b10obobob2o2bo5bo
4bo3b5o3b2o3bo4b3ob3o3b2obobo4b2o5bo2bo2b2o3bo2bo4bo2bobo2bo3b4o4bo2b
obo2bobob2o2bo5bo3bob7o$o2b2ob4o2bobo2bo2bo3bo3b6o2b4obob2ob3obo2b6ob
2obo2b3ob4obo2bo4b3ob2o4bo3bo4b2ob2obo3b2o2bo4bo4b3obob6obobo4bo3bo2b
ob2ob3obo2bo2b2obobob4o6bobob6o$obob3ob2obo3b2ob2o3b3obobobobo2bo3b2o
3b4o2bo3bo3bo2bo3b2o2bob2o2b3o2b3o2b2o2bo3bo2bo2b2o3b3o2b4obobo2b2obo
2b2o2b2o3bo3b2o4b4ob3obo2bo2bo3bo2b7o4b2o2b7o2b2obobo2bo$4o2b2o2bobo3b
o3bo2b3ob3ob8o2b2o2bob2o3bobob2obo3bobo3bo2bob3o4bobo3b2o4bo2b2o2bo2b
2o2b2o3b6ob3obobob2o2b3ob2obob3ob3ob3o2bo2b2obobo4b4obobo2b2obo2b2o5b
3obobobobo$6ob7o3b6obob5o2b2obo6b3ob2o5b3ob2o3b3obob2o3bo3b2o3b3ob2ob
5ob2ob2o3b6o4b2o2b2ob3o4b2o6bob2o3bobo2b2ob2ob4obo4bob2ob2obob2o2b2ob
ob2o3b2ob4obo$b4o3bo4bobo5bo2bo5bob5obob2o2bob4obob2obo6bobobo2b3o2bo
bobobobob2o2b3o2bobob3o3b5ob2obo2bob3ob3obobo2bobo2bo3b4obob4o3bob5o2b
2o6b5ob3ob3o2bo3bo2bo3b3o$b2ob6obo3bo4bo5b2o2bo12b3obob2o2b3obo2b2o5b
2o6b2o2b4obo2bobo4b2o3bobob2ob2ob5ob3ob3o3b2o2b2ob3ob2o2b6ob5obo3bo2b
obo6b3o4bob2o6b2o2b2o2b2o2bo$2bo8b2o2bobo3bob2ob2o4bo2b3o2bo2bo3b2o2b
3ob3obobobob2ob2obo3b4ob6obobob2o3b2obob2o2bob5ob3o2bobo5bo2b2ob5obo4b
2obobob2o4b2o5bob2ob2obo3b2o3b3o2bo2b5obo2bo$o2bo2bob4obobo2bob2ob4ob
3o5b2obobo3b2o2bo3b3ob8o2b2obobo2b3ob4obobo2bo2b3obo3bo2bo2bob4obob2o
2bob3obo2bobobo5bobobo4bo3bobo7b2obobo2b6o2bo3b3obo2bo3bo2b3obo$2bo2b
3obob3ob3o2bo2b2obobobo2bob2o5b3o2b2o2bo2bobo2b4obobo3bobo2bob4o3b2ob
o2b2o4b9ob7o3bo3b2ob8o2bob3obo2bo2bo4bobobo2bob3o3bobobobo3b3o3bob2ob
2obo2b2ob5o! [[ ZOOM 2 LABELT 127 9999 0 LABEL 119.5 18.5 1.5 "O" ]]

[toroidalet]

I ran 30 more soups, and no snakes showed up. Since a 200*200 soup can fit 144 16*16 soups inside it, it doesn't seem very common.

[confocaloid]

Are there INT rules with a 2G -> 2G collision such that the two resulting escaping gliders travel on the same lanes in the same directions as the two colliding gliders? This might be two questions, separately for the 90-degree case and the 180-degree case.

Edit 1 (2022-12-17): although this does not answer the question, here is a 2G -> 1G collision where the output glider travels on same lane but delayed by 18 ticks:

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x = 88, y = 61, rule = B34c5ky6a8/S234cz5r6i8
o52bo29bo$3o48b3o27b3o$3bo46bo29bo$2b2o46b2o28b2o8$41b2o28b2o$42b2o28b
2o$10b2o4b2o23bo29bo$10bobo3b2o$11b2o37bo3b2o24bo3b2o$5b3o4bo33b3o2bo
2bobo19b3o2bo2bobo$4b2ob2o37bo2bobo2bob2o18bo2bobo2bob2o$4bob3o37bobob
5obo19bobob5obo$5b2o44b2o2bo25b2o2bo3$3bo$4b2o$3b2o2$46bo29bo$44b2o28b
2o$45b2o28b2o10$19bo$20b2o$19b2o2$30bo29bo$28b2o28b2o$29b2o28b2o10$17b
obo$17b2o$18bo2$44bo$42b2o$43b2o!

[Period1GliderGun]

Are there INT rules with a 2G -> 2G collision such that the two resulting escaping gliders travel on the same lanes in the same directions as the two colliding gliders? This might be two questions, separately for the 90-degree case and the 180-degree case.

Here's one:

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x = 10, y = 3, rule = B34n5j/S2-n34q6a
3o4b3o$2bo4bo$bo6bo!

It might be interesting to mess around with this rulespace to create something interesting.

[confocaloid]

Are there INT rules with a 2G -> 2G collision such that the two resulting escaping gliders travel on the same lanes in the same directions as the two colliding gliders? This might be two questions, separately for the 90-degree case and the 180-degree case.

Here's one:

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x = 10, y = 3, rule = B34n5j/S2-n34q6a
3o4b3o$2bo4bo$bo6bo!

In this example the resulting gliders travel in the opposite directions from the colliding gliders; this can be made into an OMOS:

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x = 10, y = 18, rule = B34n5j/S2-n34q6a
3o4b3o$2bo4bo$bo6bo13$bo6bo$2bo4bo$3o4b3o!

I was looking for examples where the output gliders travel in same directions as input gliders (the timing does not matter) - e.g. there might be a 90-degree collision working as a delay for both gliders. I imagine it could be interesting to look at long-lasting reactions of this kind.

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Are there INT rules with a 2G -> 2G collision such that the two resulting escaping gliders travel on the same lanes in the same directions as the two colliding gliders? This might be two questions, separately for the 90-degree case and the 180-degree case.

Here's one:

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x = 10, y = 3, rule = B34n5j/S2-n34q6a
3o4b3o$2bo4bo$bo6bo!

In this example the resulting gliders travel in the opposite directions from the colliding gliders; this can be made into an OMOS:

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x = 10, y = 18, rule = B34n5j/S2-n34q6a
3o4b3o$2bo4bo$bo6bo13$bo6bo$2bo4bo$3o4b3o!

I was looking for examples where the output gliders travel in same directions as input gliders (the timing does not matter) - e.g. there might be a 90-degree collision working as a delay for both gliders. I imagine it could be interesting to look at long-lasting reactions of this kind.

This kinda looks like a glider-block cycle, but without the block and with the gliders returning on the same lane.

[pipsqueek]

I saw this users profile image, and it shows this interesting rule, but I couldn't figure out what the rule was:
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=131

anyone recognize it?

[toroidalet]

I could have sworn it was in a post on the soup results in other rules thread, but I couldn't find it. It's this:

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = B3/S2456
o3b3o$bobo2bo$ob3obo$bobobo!

[hotdogPi]

Terminology question: Is a breeder any quadratic growth at all, or does it have to have regularity? I personally wouldn't call a random soup in Seeds or DryLife a breeder, but I don't know if it qualifies.

[breaker's glider gun]

Terminology question: Is a breeder any quadratic growth at all, or does it have to have regularity? I personally wouldn't call a random soup in Seeds or DryLife a breeder, but I don't know if it qualifies.

I'm pretty sure it has to be a moving pattern that constantly generates linear growth.

[ihatecorderships]

Terminology question: Is a breeder any quadratic growth at all, or does it have to have regularity? I personally wouldn't call a random soup in Seeds or DryLife a breeder, but I don't know if it qualifies.

I'm pretty sure it has to be a moving pattern that constantly generates linear growth.

No, there are other types of breeders, like SMM(rake guns), SMS, SSM, and SSS (pianola breeders)

[breaker's glider gun]

Terminology question: Is a breeder any quadratic growth at all, or does it have to have regularity? I personally wouldn't call a random soup in Seeds or DryLife a breeder, but I don't know if it qualifies.

I'm pretty sure it has to be a moving pattern that constantly generates linear growth.

No, there are other types of breeders, like SMM(rake guns), SMS, SSM, and SSS (pianola breeders)

hmm, whoops I messed up on that one. Okay, something that constantly generates linear growth patterns IG?

[BTS-fan]

Why is the 22-letter MAP rulestring hexagonal?
What does each letter in MAP rulestring mean?
Can you find a suitable Life-like rule for this task?

[pzq_alex]

Why is the 22-letter MAP rulestring hexagonal?
What does each letter in MAP rulestring mean?
Can you find a suitable Life-like rule for this task?

The MAP rulestrings (for 2-state Moore neighborhood) are defined as follows:

• For each 9-tuple of states (nw, n, ne, w, center, s, sw, s, se) representing a cell and its neighbors, find the state of the center cell in the next generation;
• For each such 9-tuple in lexicographical order, write down the corresponding bit. This forms a 0-1 string of length 2^9=512;
• Encode the resulting string using base64, but without the trailing = sign(s).

Note that this yields an alphanumeric string of length ceil(512/6)=86. The analogous process for the hexagonal neighborhood gives a 0-1 string of length 2^7, encoded to an alphanumeric string of length ceil(2^7/6)=22.

[BTS-fan]

Why is the 22-letter MAP rulestring hexagonal?
What does each letter in MAP rulestring mean?
Can you find a suitable Life-like rule for this task?

The MAP rulestrings (for 2-state Moore neighborhood) are defined as follows:

• For each 9-tuple of states (nw, n, ne, w, center, s, sw, s, se) representing a cell and its neighbors, find the state of the center cell in the next generation;
• For each such 9-tuple in lexicographical order, write down the corresponding bit. This forms a 0-1 string of length 2^9=512;
• Encode the resulting string using base64, but without the trailing = sign(s).

Note that this yields an alphanumeric string of length ceil(512/6)=86. The analogous process for the hexagonal neighborhood gives a 0-1 string of length 2^7, encoded to an alphanumeric string of length ceil(2^7/6)=22.

What about a 6-letter rulestring such as MAPAAD/// ?

[pzq_alex]

Why is the 22-letter MAP rulestring hexagonal?
What does each letter in MAP rulestring mean?
Can you find a suitable Life-like rule for this task?

The MAP rulestrings (for 2-state Moore neighborhood) are defined as follows:

• For each 9-tuple of states (nw, n, ne, w, center, s, sw, s, se) representing a cell and its neighbors, find the state of the center cell in the next generation;
• For each such 9-tuple in lexicographical order, write down the corresponding bit. This forms a 0-1 string of length 2^9=512;
• Encode the resulting string using base64, but without the trailing = sign(s).

Note that this yields an alphanumeric string of length ceil(512/6)=86. The analogous process for the hexagonal neighborhood gives a 0-1 string of length 2^7, encoded to an alphanumeric string of length ceil(2^7/6)=22.

What about a 6-letter rulestring such as MAPAAD/// ?

The von Neumann neighborhood (ceil(2^5/6)=6)

[GUYTU6J]

In 2019, Ian07 made a commit to all-rules.txt that assigned the name "Majority" to b45678s5678 in catagolue, which is not totalistic (B45678/S5678 has B4 but no S3). What was the first source that referred to the particular outer-totalistic rule as such?

It could not be Mirek's rule lexicon, because according to this page "Majority" is an alternative name to Vote, b5678s45678 (and B5678/S45678 is totalistic), and the other use of "Majority" in lexicon is a Larger than Life rule.

[BTS-fan]

The MAP rulestrings (for 2-state Moore neighborhood) are defined as follows:

• For each 9-tuple of states (nw, n, ne, w, center, s, sw, s, se) representing a cell and its neighbors, find the state of the center cell in the next generation;
• For each such 9-tuple in lexicographical order, write down the corresponding bit. This forms a 0-1 string of length 2^9=512;
• Encode the resulting string using base64, but without the trailing = sign(s).

Note that this yields an alphanumeric string of length ceil(512/6)=86. The analogous process for the hexagonal neighborhood gives a 0-1 string of length 2^7, encoded to an alphanumeric string of length ceil(2^7/6)=22.

What about a 6-letter rulestring such as MAPAAD/// ?

The von Neumann neighborhood (ceil(2^5/6)=6)

Could you give a bit-by-bit explanation?
by the way please don't explain in all English. Long English texts tend to make me nervous. Maybe you can try adding some ひらがな or カタカナ in your post.

[Ian07]

In 2019, Ian07 made a commit to all-rules.txt that assigned the name "Majority" to b45678s5678 in catagolue, which is not totalistic (B45678/S5678 has B4 but no S3). What was the first source that referred to the particular outer-totalistic rule as such?

It could not be Mirek's rule lexicon, because according to this page "Majority" is an alternative name to Vote, b5678s45678 (and B5678/S45678 is totalistic), and the other use of "Majority" in lexicon is a Larger than Life rule.

Not sure. That could very well be a mistake on my part, apologies if so.

[pipsqueek]

I have seen some certain rules discussed within a particular rulespace, the rules have RRO Herschels (or Herschel descendants or whatever) that
interact to create strange extremely slow or high period spaceships like in this rule

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x = 91, y = 113, rule = B2in3-ekny4kt5ery6cin7c8/S2aek3-ace4eiyz5eik6-ck7e8
6bo$5bo$5bo2bo$3bo3b2o$4bo2bo$4bo2bo$4b3o15$3o$obo$2b2o$obo$obo$2o29$
22b2o$21bobo$21bo$21bo2bo8b2o$22b2obo6b2o10b2o$25bob2o17b2o$25b3o14bo
4bo$26bo14bo2bo2bo$45b2o14$87b2o$89bo$86b2ob2o$85bob3o$82bo4b2o$86bo
26$54b2o$54bobo$48b2o4bob2o$47bobo5b2o$48b2o5bo!

most of these kind of spaceships are all in different (but related) rules. where did these kind of rules originate from? is there a rule which led to the discovery of this rulespace?