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Posted: **February 19th, 2017, 7:16 pm**

shouldsee wrote:Thank you for this informative scheme and I think you deserve its name (lol).

The only unnatural part to me is the padding.

Padding -- you mean padding the bitstring with zeroes in step 4? That's just to ensure it's the right length for easy, unambiguous conversion to octal digits.

The problem as I view it is that different B/S principal number have a different number of sub-neighborhoods, asking each neighborhood to be expanded differently.

There's not much that can be done about the different numbers of subconditions that the various B/S conditions have, unfortunately. B7 (or S7) only has two, while B4 (or S4) has 13, that's just the way it is in Alan's scheme. And of course he didn't pull his scheme from thin air either: these really are the numbers of different configurations that can exist for a given neighbor count.

That said, with these "Apple Bottom numbers", the non-integer part that encodes the non-totalistic subconditions is largely opaque. It's still true that tools working with these numbers need to know about the different numbers of subconditions that exist for different B/S conditions, but:

Using 14 bits for each individial B/S condition would make the resulting numbers quite a bit longer (as strings);
I've already implemented it this way, and I'm lazy and don't want to change things; and
Perfect is the enemy of good.

(Re: the last bullet point, calling these a "standard" is hubris, of course, but that's a great virtue. In fact, with the second bullet points I've also covered laziness as well!)

It would also be great if the scheme allow a easy transfer towards non-istropic non-totalistic rules (aka the most general form of 2d Moore rules, which would obviously be sufficiently described with a 2^9=512 bit string ).

For those I'd say it'd be most natural to use a 128-digit hexadecimal number that encodes said 512 bits. (In fact I don't think there's ANY notation for these rules yet, certainly nothing generally understood and agreed on.)

I'm not sure how you'd extend either rule integers or "Apple Bottom numbers" to cover these non-isotropic rules.

Posted: **February 21st, 2017, 2:14 am**

Apple Bottom wrote:
shouldsee wrote:Thank you for this informative scheme and I think you deserve its name (lol).

The only unnatural part to me is the padding.

Using 14 bits for each individial B/S condition would make the resulting numbers quite a bit longer (as strings);

I agree that AB number would be the most intuitive way to extend a standard BS notation, especially if we agree that a non-totalistic rule is strongly related to its non-toltalistic counterpart. But I am more concerned with the implementation side.

To be clear, when someone actually implement a nt-rule, it comes done to convert the rule into a 1/0 string, corresponding to each distinguishable configuartions. And in the same time, construct a convolution matrix capable of distinguishing such configs. To this end, I would tend to collect all possible nt-configs into my rule string, consisting of (1+2+6+10+13+10+6+2+1)*2=102 digits. This allow a immediate un-ambiguous conversion into a rule table.

There is obvious downside to this scheme:

It is largely a black-box, worse than AB number
It will be long, and int102 exceeds the common double precision

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The only pro is the rulestring has a fixed length and this might allow easier implementation for rookie like me. (lol)

The most challenge part of this scheme, however, is to identify a convolution filter capable of projecting a given config to the 2^101 possible Alan Hensel subconditions. The central cell obvious can take the value of 2^100, but we then need to allocate the 2^100 into the rest of 8 neighbors in a symmetric way, and I don't know how to accomplish that yet. EDIT: It might even be impossible to construct a symmetric convolution filter that will do the job.

Having said all that, that scheme is not terribly different from AB number, and I agree that AB number is more informative and more concise in any regard. There is yet another issue regarding the filenam: '.' should be reserved for file extension, I would suggest ',' as a better separator.

Kind regards

Posted: **February 21st, 2017, 6:22 am**

shouldsee wrote:I agree that AB number would be the most intuitive way to extend a standard BS notation, especially if we agree that a non-totalistic rule is strongly related to its non-toltalistic counterpart. But I am more concerned with the implementation side.

Ah, I do apologize, most of what follows went right over my head! Same as for your posts in the "Smoothiness" thread -- they're fascinating, but I don't understand them.

By all means do come up with and use whatever numbering scheme works best for your purpose, too.

Having said all that, that scheme is not terribly different from AB number, and I agree that AB number is more informative and more concise in any regard. There is yet another issue regarding the filenam: '.' should be reserved for file extension, I would suggest ',' as a better separator.

Either works really. The separator is really just the decimal separator; writing "B2ce3ai/S23. has AB number 6156.177174" is really no different in principle from saying "2/5 is equal to 0.4". When working with files, you could use any separator really; the number itself is just a rational, and how you write it down, what symbols you use etc. doesn't change the number.

Posted: **February 21st, 2017, 6:55 am**

Apple Bottom wrote:
shouldsee wrote:I agree that AB number would be the most intuitive way to extend a standard BS notation, especially if we agree that a non-totalistic rule is strongly related to its non-toltalistic counterpart. But I am more concerned with the implementation side.
Ah, I do apologize, most of what follows went right over my head! Same as for your posts in the

Ha, sorry about being confusing. I will explain in detail later.

BTW, it'd be great if you can ask specific questions to help me structure my logic.

Posted: **February 21st, 2017, 12:31 pm**

When are we going to apgsearch non-totalistic rules with apgmera?

EDIT: There may be guns in B01c2acei3cikqy4acjqtz5-aky6akn7e8/S2a3ijknr4acknrtwz5jr6acik78

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Posted: **February 23rd, 2017, 9:00 am**

B2i3aei4ajqy56-n7/S2-i3

seems very complex and interesting, medium-speed apgsearching

Posted: **February 26th, 2017, 1:40 pm**

B2ce3ai6c/S23-r4c
B2ce3ai/S3-k45-j

Posted: **February 26th, 2017, 3:30 pm**

B3-j6/S235i

Posted: **February 26th, 2017, 3:48 pm**

Trying to find a natural linear growth in B2-ac3i_S12. I know they exist.

Posted: **February 27th, 2017, 6:32 pm**

A glider-rich rule

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x = 66, y = 58, rule = B2ei3eikqry4ceijkr5aciknq6aein7c8/S1c2cen3-iqr4aqwz5-inr6cikn78
3$25bo$26bo$25b2o6$16b2o$16b2o$16bo3$45b2o$45b2o$46bo3$36b2o$34bob2o$
36bo$34b2o6$11b3ob2o2$47b2o$46b3o$46b2o4$14b2o16b2o$14b2o16b2o$15b2o$
16b2o$16b2o6b2o$24bo$8b2o13b3obo$6b3o2bo9b3ob3o$6b2o2b2o10bob2o$6b4obo
8b2obo9bo$6b2ob2o5b2o2bobo11bo$3b2ob4o6b3o14b2o$2bo2bo15b2o16b2o$3b2ob
o11bobobo16b2o$4bobo$5bo!

Posted: **March 5th, 2017, 12:11 am**

Can someone do a haul of B2k35n_S23-a4eitz/C1? I tried searching it but it is soooo slow on my computer. I suspect that there are more interesting ships.

Posted: **March 5th, 2017, 1:48 am**

Saka wrote:Can someone do a haul of B2k35n_S23-a4eitz/C1? I tried searching it but it is soooo slow on my computer. I suspect that there are more interesting ships.

I'll start doing it.

EDIT: RAM overuse at 7K soups.

Posted: **March 5th, 2017, 9:35 am**

Saka wrote:Can someone do a haul of B2k35n_S23-a4eitz/C1? I tried searching it but it is soooo slow on my computer. I suspect that there are more interesting ships.

I'll see what I can do, but in my experience the dendrite-like growth patterns this rule exhibits don't bode well for soup-searchability.

Posted: **March 5th, 2017, 2:17 pm**

Apple Bottom wrote:
Saka wrote:Can someone do a haul of B2k35n_S23-a4eitz/C1? I tried searching it but it is soooo slow on my computer. I suspect that there are more interesting ships.
I'll see what I can do, but in my experience the dendrite-like growth patterns this rule exhibits don't bode well for soup-searchability.

clayman's apgsearch-isotropic-v0.2 worked just fine but I cannot get it upload to census.

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x = 115, y = 42, rule = B2k35n/S23-a4eitz
109bo2$61bo3bo44b3o$60b3ob3o41b2ob2o$60bobobobo43bo$2bo56b2obobob2o$b
3o16b3ob3o32bo2bobo2bo$obobo15bobobobo14bo19bo3bo$bobo16bobobobo13b3o
18bo3bo$2ob2o17bobo14b2obo$21b2ob2o13b3o19bo3bo$60b2o3b2o2$54b3o13b3o
2$112b3o$111bo2bo$111bo2bo$111b3o23$58b3o5b3o!

Posted: **March 5th, 2017, 4:21 pm**

Apple Bottom wrote:I'll see what I can do, but in my experience the dendrite-like growth patterns this rule exhibits don't bode well for soup-searchability.

You were right, it is quite slow, but not so slow as to be unsearchable: I'm getting roughly one soup per second.

There were a few failed hauls that didn't make it to Catagolue earlier, amounting to a total of ~9.5k soups. Since there's not much data for this rule otherwise, here they are:

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@VERSION v0.54+0.21i
@MD5 b2be20d2414577caa6f9a4340b6f4dcf
@ROOT rKx4eTELLHwc
@RULE B2k35nS23-a4eitz
@SYMMETRY C1
@NUM_SOUPS 2030
@NUM_OBJECTS 233244

@CENSUS TABLE
xp2_7 188896
xs6_356 18113
xs5_253 7207
xs4_252 5646
xs5_174 3207
xq126_89kcczzzxe997 2477
xp4_2814 1167
xq28_27de 1026
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xs7_178c 141
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z_LINEAR 27
PATHOLOGICAL 19
xs9_4aar 5
xq16_7hv0vh7 3
xs18_gbabqacz11 2
xs8_35ac 2
xs6_bd 2
xs12_2570752 1
ov_q106 1

@TOP 100
1582 87846
67 44808
1844 38682
25 32974
21 29456
2017 27476
1584 13314
548 1939
845 1939
958 1934
233 1869
228 573
1254 311
1412 100
1984 100
212 100
730 100
248 100
807 80
2 50
259 50
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1707 50
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879 50
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1203 50
798 50
1225 50
187 50
1312 50
707 50

@SAMPLE_SOUPIDS
xp2_7 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21
xs6_356 14 15 15 25 25 25 25 25 25 25
xs5_253 13 12 14 10 9 3 16 25 25 25
xs4_252 13 10 25 25 25 25 25 25 21 25
xs5_174 11 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 21
xq126_89kcczzzxe997 2 34 27 25 25 25 25 25 25 25
xp4_2814 29 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25
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xp4_2896 37 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25
xs7_25ac 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25
xs8_6996 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25
xs7_2596 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 21
xs14_6abqac 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 21
xs6_696 1844
xs6_25a4 25 25 25 25 25 25 21 25 21 25
xs8_69ic 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 21 21
xq106_gyn7z3yp640449bae4zsyp620229d572zyoe 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 21 25 21
xp4_fwf 25 25 25 25 21 21 21 25 21 25
xs7_174c 25 25 25 21 21 25 25 21 21 21
xs7_178c 25 25 25 21 25 21 25 21 25 21
xq2_4elar 21 25 25 21 21 25 25 25 25 21
z_LINEAR 25 25 21 21 21 25 25 21 21 67
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xs9_4aar 67 67 67 67 1451 1582
xq16_7hv0vh7 1254 1424 1582
xs18_gbabqacz11 1582 2017 2017
xs8_35ac 1582 1844 1844
xs6_bd 67 67 1129
xs12_2570752 1254
ov_q106 1582

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@VERSION v0.54+0.21i
@MD5 c9781c6fcf18e48007680a204ded4bc1
@ROOT Byi2c67Yx9p9
@RULE B2k35nS23-a4eitz
@SYMMETRY C1
@NUM_SOUPS 1000
@NUM_OBJECTS 29343

@CENSUS TABLE
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xs6_356 2288
xs5_253 909
xs4_252 707
xs5_174 411
xq126_89kcczzzxe997 340
xp4_2814 152
xq28_27de 150
xp4_2896 135
xs7_25ac 112
xs8_6996 97
xs14_6abqac 61
xs7_2596 59
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xs6_25a4 41
xs6_696 40
xs8_69ic 37
xp4_fwf 21
xs7_174c 19
xs7_178c 17
xq2_4elar 16
z_LINEAR 4
xq16_7hv0vh7 3
PATHOLOGICAL 3
xs8_17sg 1

@TOP 100
578 32905
69 1934
459 1734
598 100
193 100
797 100
966 100
17 50
39 50
605 50
56 50
60 50
574 50
581 50
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97 50
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329 50
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50 5
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694 5
698 5
261 5
263 5
280 5
847 5
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924 5
429 5
439 5
474 5
991 5
484 5
499 5

@SAMPLE_SOUPIDS
xp2_7 69 69
xs6_356 5 0 27 21 20 20 44 53 61 69
xs5_253 16 54 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 69
xs4_252 0 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 69
xs5_174 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 69
xq126_89kcczzzxe997 39 17 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 69
xp4_2814 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 168 187 283
xq28_27de 69 69 69 69 69 119 160 222 316 312
xp4_2896 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 69 134 157
xs7_25ac 69 69 69 69 69 69 459 459 459 459
xs8_6996 69 69 69 69 294 459 459 459 459 537
xs14_6abqac 69 69 69 105 426 459 459 459 578 578
xs7_2596 69 69 69 334 459 459 459 578 578 578
xq106_gyn7z3yp640449bae4zsyp620229d572zyoe 69 69 193 459 459 578 578 578 578 578
xs6_25a4 69 69 459 459 578 578 578 578 578 578
xs8_69ic 69 69 578 578 578 578 578 578 578 578
xp4_fwf 69 459 578 578 578 578 578 578 578 578
xs7_174c 69 459 578 578 578 578 578 578 578 578
xs7_178c 69 459 578 578 578 578 578 578 578 578
xq2_4elar 69 459 507 578 578 578 578 578 578 578
z_LINEAR 69 459 578 578 578 578
xq16_7hv0vh7 193 258 797
PATHOLOGICAL 578 578 578 578
xs8_17sg 264

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@VERSION v0.54+0.21i
@MD5 9ac27b63750ad46b6625765bf65bd478
@ROOT megZ3PFfq5rU
@RULE B2k35nS23-a4eitz
@SYMMETRY C1
@NUM_SOUPS 1000
@NUM_OBJECTS 54928

@CENSUS TABLE
xp2_7 44286
xs6_356 4306
xs5_253 1677
xs4_252 1346
xs5_174 765
xq126_89kcczzzxe997 645
xq28_27de 307
xp4_2814 292
xp4_2896 242
xs7_25ac 213
xs8_6996 187
xs14_6abqac 109
xs7_2596 107
xs6_25a4 75
xs6_696 75
xq106_gyn7z3yp640449bae4zsyp620229d572zyoe 75
xs8_69ic 73
xp4_fwf 40
xs7_174c 34
xs7_178c 33
xq2_4elar 31
z_LINEAR 6
PATHOLOGICAL 4

@TOP 100
338 32875
263 25885
502 12238
986 1005
79 155
807 100
382 80
14 50
551 50
563 50
569 50
581 50
73 50
587 50
95 50
99 50
103 50
108 50
621 50
110 50
112 50
636 50
129 50
643 50
649 50
659 50
660 50
662 50
668 50
624 50
167 50
203 50
209 50
730 50
732 50
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739 50
740 50
749 50
756 50
250 50
258 50
259 50
781 50
270 50
272 50
276 50
791 50
797 50
290 50
811 50
305 50
841 50
332 50
876 50
367 50
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380 50
899 50
388 50
906 50
909 50
269 50
938 50
428 50
944 50
433 50
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959 50
451 50
479 50
993 50
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501 50
509 50
35 30
194 30
690 30
706 30
991 30
871 30
361 30
381 30
950 30
329 30
328 14
595 10
282 10
28 7
178 5
60 5
590 5
606 5
120 5
163 5
697 5
131 5

@SAMPLE_SOUPIDS
xp2_7 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xs6_356 2 2 19 23 26 28 38 45 44 52
xs5_253 20 23 26 35 53 57 79 79 79 79
xs4_252 2 42 81 100 109 174 219 213 245 263
xs5_174 60 79 120 131 163 178 243 263 263 263
xq126_89kcczzzxe997 103 95 79 73 112 167 209 272 263 263
xq28_27de 14 108 99 79 129 110 203 263 263 263
xp4_2814 194 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xp4_2896 35 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xs7_25ac 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xs8_6996 64 203 206 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xs14_6abqac 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xs7_2596 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xs6_25a4 201 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xq106_gyn7z3yp640449bae4zsyp620229d572zyoe 79 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xs8_69ic 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xp4_fwf 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xs7_174c 28 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xs7_178c 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
xq2_4elar 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263 263
z_LINEAR 263 263 263 263 338 338 338 338 502 502
PATHOLOGICAL 263 263 338 338 338 338 502

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@MD5 5e918eb7bebd4fc742b31b2374282694
@ROOT rEWyevehDykv
@RULE B2k35nS23-a4eitz
@SYMMETRY C1
@NUM_SOUPS 4488
@NUM_OBJECTS 201349

@CENSUS TABLE
xp2_7 162285
xs6_356 15707
xs5_253 6148
xs4_252 4955
xs5_174 2851
xq126_89kcczzzxe997 2409
xq28_27de 1075
xp4_2814 1064
xp4_2896 921
xs7_25ac 786
xs8_6996 668
xs7_2596 409
xs14_6abqac 404
xs6_25a4 278
xs6_696 277
xq106_gyn7z3yp640449bae4zsyp620229d572zyoe 274
xs8_69ic 266
xp4_fwf 145
xs7_174c 132
xs7_178c 125
xq2_4elar 111
z_LINEAR 26
PATHOLOGICAL 20
xq16_7hv0vh7 3
xs18_gbabqacz11 1
xs11_178jd 1
xp2_4l4a 1
xs8_17sg 1
xs9_25ako 1
xs9_178ko 1
ov_q28 1
xs6_bd 1
xs8_178k8 1
xp3_277772 1

@TOP 100
4433 32905
1562 32845
767 32845
1817 32845
4482 32845
4101 14282
464 13569
3935 13447
80 12722
4435 12208
348 11935
2525 4193
3697 3703
1906 2184
2339 1950
1684 1944
3797 1939
1004 1934
268 1874
3606 375
1997 135
1143 100
3305 100
3843 100
3972 100
903 100
3988 100
920 100
483 100
706 80
2524 80
2657 60
2625 55
118 55
2680 55
133 55
4298 55
271 55
4381 55
1383 55
413 55
1025 50
2051 50
2052 50
6 50
7 50
3086 50
4114 50
2067 50
4116 50
1047 50
3608 50
2073 50
27 50
28 50
1029 50
34 50
3078 50
1064 50
41 50
2092 50
1072 50
1078 50
1081 50
2109 50
2116 50
4170 50
83 50
85 50
89 50
2141 50
2144 50
1123 50
3177 50
3181 50
112 50
113 50
4210 50
3188 50
1147 50
3197 50
126 50
4224 50
129 50
134 50
1161 50
4237 50
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1170 50
2199 50
156 50
3235 50
3244 50
4270 50
3247 50
1203 50
1214 50
2241 50
2248 50
2255 50

@SAMPLE_SOUPIDS
xp2_7 268 268 268 268 268 268 268 348 348 348
xs6_356 0 20 30 24 53 60 59 67 80 80
xs5_253 30 42 72 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xs4_252 9 3 3 34 73 80 80 80 80 80
xs5_174 15 14 80 80 80 80 80 81 80 80
xq126_89kcczzzxe997 6 34 41 89 85 80 80 80 80 80
xq28_27de 7 27 83 80 80 80 83 80 80 80
xp4_2814 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xp4_2896 4 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xs7_25ac 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xs8_6996 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xs7_2596 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xs14_6abqac 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xs6_25a4 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xq106_gyn7z3yp640449bae4zsyp620229d572zyoe 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xs8_69ic 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xp4_fwf 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
xs7_174c 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 268
xs7_178c 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 268 272 348
xq2_4elar 28 80 80 80 80 80 80 268 348 348
z_LINEAR 80 80 268 348 348 464 464 767 767 767
PATHOLOGICAL 80 80 80 348 348 464 464 767 767 767
xq16_7hv0vh7 3168 3305 4418
xs18_gbabqacz11 2525
xs11_178jd 2668
xp2_4l4a 2279
xs8_17sg 3470
xs9_25ako 833
xs9_178ko 3226
ov_q28 2657
xs6_bd 3915 3915
xs8_178k8 3745
xp3_277772 1882

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@VERSION v0.54+0.21i
@MD5 974b0bef30bd94b7ed15d004c435773a
@ROOT XHgPmwhuGU7F
@RULE B2k35nS23-a4eitz
@SYMMETRY C1
@NUM_SOUPS 100
@NUM_OBJECTS 184

@CENSUS TABLE
xp2_7 147
xs6_356 18
xs5_253 6
xs4_252 4
xq126_89kcczzzxe997 3
xs8_6996 3
xs7_2596 1
xp4_2896 1
xs5_174 1

@TOP 100
8 50
1 50
96 50
73 30
55 5

@SAMPLE_SOUPIDS
xs6_356 2 11 19 29 38 43 44 53 62 57
xs5_253 2 23 24 45 58 70
xs4_252 3 58 58 88
xq126_89kcczzzxe997 8 1 96
xs8_6996 20 21 41
xs7_2596 35
xp4_2896 73
xs5_174 55

The only interesting thing these contain that's not on Catagolue is an xp3, though:

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x = 6, y = 3, rule = B2k35n/S23-a4eitz
b4ob$6o$b4ob!

I'll keep on searching this for a while and see if anything else of interest shows up.

Posted: **March 5th, 2017, 9:29 pm**

Segmentation fault when throw apgmera against b3456s056

Posted: **March 7th, 2017, 4:38 am**

Please do a haul of B2cekn3-in4w/S1c2aei3-aj C1

Posted: **March 7th, 2017, 7:10 am**

Saka wrote:Please do a haul of B2cekn3-in4w/S1c2aei3-aj C1

That's an explosive rule.

Posted: **March 8th, 2017, 4:42 am**

Apple Bottom wrote:
Saka wrote:Please do a haul of B2cekn3-in4w/S1c2aei3-aj C1
That's an explosive rule.

Really?? Example explosive soup please?
Ok what about B2-a3-i5eq78/S1c2cei34cei C1

Posted: **March 8th, 2017, 4:57 am**

Saka wrote:
Apple Bottom wrote:
Saka wrote:Please do a haul of B2cekn3-in4w/S1c2aei3-aj C1
That's an explosive rule.
Really?? Example explosive soup please?

Every soup with

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x = 10, y = 3, rule = B2cekn3-in4w_S1c2aei3-aj
8b2o$obobo2b2o$8b2o!

explodes.

Posted: **March 8th, 2017, 10:57 am**

B34c/S2-i34q has, against all odds, a fairly small natural B4c-dependent spaceship, xq12.
I would encourage searching this rule a bit more.

Posted: **March 8th, 2017, 2:08 pm**

B2-ac3ikqy4cinwy5kn6cek7/S1c2ekn3-enr4ikqrz5cejq6ack
B2ei3-acjn4ceijkr5-ejry6-ck7c8/S01c2cen3-iqr4aqwz5-inr6-ae78
B2ci3acj4ajktw5ackqr6-ae7c8/S01c2ekn3cjkqr4cqtwyz5-cnqy6n7c
B2cei3acn4cejnqtw5ciknr6ac7c/S12e3ikqy4-acqry5aciqy6ck8
B2ei3cikry4aceikwz5cejqy6ai7c8/S12ekn3-acjy4aeqwy5-ny6ace7e8
B2cen3ajnqy4cenrz5-aenq6k7e8/S2ac3cejkq4acnwyz5aiqy6-ei7c8
B2ekn3eijn4iktwy5acnry6-in7e8/S2cik3-eikq4aqyz5-eijr6-ce8_gunpossible
b3ia2k3n2i3r4r5i3q5a4q5n6a4e5cy6cns1e2c3aj4a2i3r4i2n3y4ky6a5y6k7c4c6e_gdiler
B2cein3aceiy4eijrw5aq6ai/S1e2cn3kny4ajkrwyz5aikn6-n7_star

B2ckn3-aeky4aeint5knqr6e/S1e2ei3ejnqr4-centy5-en6-n7e

Posted: **March 8th, 2017, 5:19 pm**

Saka wrote:Ok what about B2-a3-i5eq78/S1c2cei34cei C1

That's got some interesting growth patterns as well.

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2-a3-i5eq78/S1-e2-akn34cei
oooboooooboooboo$
booobbbbbboooooo$
obbbooooboobbbob$
bobbbbobooobooob$
obooboobbbbobbbb$
bobbobobbbobbbbo$
bboobobboobooooo$
oobooobooobobbob$
ooboooooooboobbo$
bobboboobbbbobbo$
bobbooobboobbobb$
obbbboobobbboooo$
obbobbbbbobobboo$
bobbboboobbbobbo$
obobobbobbbbbooo$
oobobbbooobooooo!

(Also, a period 548 oscillator.)

Rhombic wrote:B34c/S2-i34q has, against all odds, a fairly small natural B4c-dependent spaceship, xq12.
I would encourage searching this rule a bit more.

Sure, I'll do a couple of hauls for that next.

Posted: **March 9th, 2017, 12:42 pm**

shouldsee wrote:B2ei3-acjn4ceijkr5-ejry6-ck7c8/S01c2cen3-iqr4aqwz5-inr6-ae78

This has some very problematic (as far as soup searching goes) patterns, too. So far Golly hasn't choked on it, but there's definitely a lot of memory pressure:

: 2zIMn3G.png (12.76 KiB) Viewed 426 times

I'll let it keep running for another while and see if it ends up recovering to the point where it's able to submit the results. (Or, alternatively, crashing.)

My next computer's definitely going to have more RAM. Much, much more.

EDIT: And it crashed about 5 minutes after I wrote this post.

Posted: **March 9th, 2017, 12:56 pm**

Apple Bottom wrote:
shouldsee wrote:B2ei3-acjn4ceijkr5-ejry6-ck7c8/S01c2cen3-iqr4aqwz5-inr6-ae78
EDIT: And it crashed about 5 minutes after I wrote this post.

Sorry I forgot to edit my previous post: some of these rules do give explosive soup! Especially along the line of symmetry.

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