Counterfeit Gliders

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by ihatecorderships » July 14th, 2021, 2:30 pm

Not exactly a counterfeit glider, but this impresses me:

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x = 22, y = 4, rule = B2k3-e4-ceiry/S2-ik3-a4c6c
3o6b3o7b3o$2bo5bo2bo6bo2bo$bo8bo9bo$18bo!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Gustone » July 15th, 2021, 3:14 pm

ihatecorderships wrote:
July 14th, 2021, 2:30 pm
this impresses me
The last one, infinitely extensible:

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B2k3-nr4knty/S2-ik3
6bo$6b2o$5bobo$3bobo$5bo$b3o2$obo$o$o!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Moosey » September 21st, 2021, 3:57 pm

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2a4r/S0123-n4-k5678|B3jn4i5ij/S2k4ijr5cjr
bo$o$3o!

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B1c/S012345678|B3i4k/S3kr4y|B1c3j/S4k|B2kn3ky4y/S2i
bo$o$3o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 6th, 2021, 6:14 pm

p44

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ci34r5-n7/S2-k3-ac
3o$2bo$bo!
p40

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ci3-q4r5-n78/S2-kn3-ac4c5j
2o$b2o$o!
p16

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ci3-qry4r5-cn68/S2-kn3-ace4cz6
2o$b2o$o!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by erictom333 » December 12th, 2021, 4:42 am

Strictly speaking, these are counterfeit gliders.

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x = 11, y = 3, rule = B0123-aijn4-k5jnr6ae/S012-ae3-jnr4k5aijn
bo6bo$2bo6b2o$3o5b2o!
More obvious:

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x = 11, y = 3, rule = B0123-aijn4-k5jnr6ae/S012-ae3-jnr4k5aijn:T20,20
bo6bo$2bo6b2o$3o5b2o!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by ihatecorderships » January 10th, 2022, 1:34 pm

2c/4o

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2/S2|B38/S23
obo$2o$bo!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by breaker's glider gun » January 11th, 2022, 10:40 am

erictom333 wrote:
December 12th, 2021, 4:42 am
Strictly speaking, these are counterfeit gliders.

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x = 11, y = 3, rule = B0123-aijn4-k5jnr6ae/S012-ae3-jnr4k5aijn
bo6bo$2bo6b2o$3o5b2o!
More obvious:

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x = 11, y = 3, rule = B0123-aijn4-k5jnr6ae/S012-ae3-jnr4k5aijn:T20,20
bo6bo$2bo6b2o$3o5b2o!
umm, those are just gliders.
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by erictom333 » January 11th, 2022, 5:55 pm

breaker's glider gun wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 10:40 am
erictom333 wrote:
December 12th, 2021, 4:42 am
Strictly speaking, these are counterfeit gliders.

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x = 11, y = 3, rule = B0123-aijn4-k5jnr6ae/S012-ae3-jnr4k5aijn
bo6bo$2bo6b2o$3o5b2o!
More obvious:

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x = 11, y = 3, rule = B0123-aijn4-k5jnr6ae/S012-ae3-jnr4k5aijn:T20,20
bo6bo$2bo6b2o$3o5b2o!
umm, those are just gliders.
No, they alternate between gluders and anti-gliders.

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by ZackBuildit777 » January 13th, 2022, 11:46 am

ihatecorderships wrote:
January 10th, 2022, 1:34 pm
2c/4o

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2/S2|B38/S23
obo$2o$bo!
technically, since this is an unorthodox rule (defined as a rule in which no periodic object in it can be offset forward or backward any number of steps without its evolution changing relative to the subrule it was moved to) this could also be considered a true period c/2o too.

though i doubt anyone in this thread would particularly care.
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Wyirm » February 5th, 2022, 12:45 pm

Life viewer cannot run wolfram rules higher than 254, but in rule 420 you'll see gliders.

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by wwei47 » March 16th, 2022, 12:30 am

I recently ran into a LifeWiki talk page comment on the Glider page, written by myself.
The glider also works in B013568/S01, but in this rule it is a C/2 orthogonal spaceship instead. Evolve the Z-pentomino, the only pentomino to grow infinitely to see for yourself. Some of the gliders will be pulling tagalongs, like a duoplet. -wwei23 1:06 PM 9/23/2015 NY time
What I was describing was a counterfeit glider.

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# You can save the pattern into this box with Settings/Pattern/Save or Ctrl-S.
x = 2, y = 3, rule = B013568/S01
o$bo$bo!
[[ AUTOSTART ]]
[[ STOP 1 ]]
EDIT: Added LifeViewer commands to deal with phase issues.
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by breaker's glider gun » May 22nd, 2022, 2:36 pm

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B34w5y/S1c2-k3
3o$o$bo!
Yayy! That was fun to engineer.
EDIT:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B34aw5ny/S2-k34a
3o$o$bo!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by NimbleRogue » May 29th, 2022, 2:26 pm

Glider frontend in a rro

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x = 14, y = 11, rule = B3-cnqy4z5er6cin8/S2-i3-a4ceinrtz5acjkr6cen7
2bo$bobo$obobo$2o2bo$5b2o$7bo$6bobo$5bobo$5b2o!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-cnqy4e5kr6n7c/S2-i3-ay4einrtyz5cejn6cin78
bo$3o$ob2o!

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#14c/85265o
x = 10, y = 4, rule = B2-an3-iqy4iknrtz5aijqy6aei78/S02ck3nqy4eiqrtwy5-ekq6-i78
2bo4bo$3b4o$ob6obo$2b6o!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by breaker's glider gun » June 1st, 2022, 11:26 am

NimbleRogue wrote:
May 29th, 2022, 2:26 pm
Glider frontend in a rro

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x = 14, y = 11, rule = B3-cnqy4z5er6cin8/S2-i3-a4ceinrtz5acjkr6cen7
2bo$bobo$obobo$2o2bo$5b2o$7bo$6bobo$5bobo$5b2o!
?
that's an SL??
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by breaker's glider gun » June 1st, 2022, 11:45 am

Gustone wrote: The last one, infinitely extensible:

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B2k3-nr4knty/S2-ik3
6bo$6b2o$5bobo$3bobo$5bo$b3o2$obo$o$o!
interesting...

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x = 67, y = 82, rule = B2k3-nr4knty/S2-ik3
7$51b2o$51b2o8$45bo$45b2o$44bobo$42bobo$44bo$40b3o2$39bobo$37bobo$39b
o$35b3o2$34bobo$32bobo$34bo$30b3o2$29bobo$27bobo$29bo$25b3o2$24bobo$22b
obo$24bo$20b3o2$19bobo$17bobo$19bo$15b3o2$14bobo$12bobo$14bo$10b3o2$9b
obo$7bobo$9bo$5b3o2$4bobo$4bo$4bo!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by LaundryPizza03 » December 18th, 2022, 7:46 pm

All oscillators and spaceships without B2a that are alpha-gliders (bo$2bo$3o!) and have period at most 4.
bo$2bo$3o!_nonrel4.txt
2853 results
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Summary of results:
  • 1 still life
  • 36 p2 oscillators
  • 3 c/2o spaceships, all of which travel south
  • 125 p3 oscillators
  • 84 c/3o spaceships, of which 23 travel east, 21 travel west, 33 travel south, and 7 travel north
  • 1171 p4 oscillators
  • 999 c/4o spaceships, of which 310 travel east, 101 travel west, 468 travel south, and 120 travel north
  • 68 2c/4o spaceships, all of which travel south
  • 366 c/4d spaceships, of which 140 travel southeast, 79 travel southwest, 16 travel northwest, and 131 travel northeast
The standard glider appears as the 1018th entry in this list.

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by LaundryPizza03 » December 18th, 2022, 10:07 pm

All oscillators and spaceships without B2a that are beta-gliders (o$b2o$2o!) and have period at most 4.
o$b2o$2o!_nonrel4.txt
2617 results
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Summary of results:
  • 1 still life
  • 25 p2 oscillators
  • 2 c/2o spaceships, both of which travel west
  • 100 p3 oscillators
  • 42 c/3o spaceships, of which 4 travel east, 24 travel west, 7 travel south, and 7 travel north
  • 967 p4 oscillators
  • 1051 c/4o spaceships, of which 159 travel east, 468 travel west, 277 travel south, and 147 travel north
  • 110 2c/4o spaceships, all of which travel west
  • 319 c/4d spaceships, of which 185 travel southeast, 92 travel southwest, 30 travel northwest, and 12 travel northeast
The standard glider appears as the 6th entry in this list.

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by LaundryPizza03 » December 19th, 2022, 1:14 am

This last post concerns counterfeit alpha- and beta-gliders in B2a rules, which always travel at the speed of light.
o$b2o$2o!_rel3.txt
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bo$2bo$3o!_rel3.txt
16 results
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For alpha-gliders, there are 4 p2 and 42 p3 photons. For beta-gliders, there are 3 p2 and 13 p3 photons.

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by snowman » December 6th, 2023, 7:48 am

While exploring rules one transition away from totalistic rules, I feel like this needs to be posted:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B35c678/S13567
2bo$obo$b2o!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by b-engine » December 21st, 2023, 7:41 am

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S1c2-c3
bo$2bo$3o!

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2c34k/S2-k3
bo$2bo$3o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by b-engine » January 6th, 2024, 9:56 pm

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x = 10, y = 3, rule = B35n/S23n4k
bo5bo$2bo5b2o$3o4b2o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by CasperWen8805181 » January 27th, 2024, 3:01 pm

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-a3air4a5ai6a78/S2aei4-cknqy5-ejk6-e
2o$obo$o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by b-engine » January 27th, 2024, 10:13 pm

You'll know the rule is alternating once you see this:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B35n/S23-r|B2e3-i/S1c23-r
bo$2bo$3o!
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