Symbiosis

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by May13 » April 26th, 2021, 10:50 am

Some small glider conduits:
15-tick delay of a glider. Repeat time - 55 ticks.

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x = 16, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
.B$.A$A.A11.B$.A12.A$.B11.A.A$11.A2.A$4.3A4.B2.B$6.A$5.A!
G-to-H conduit (an another syringe?). Repeat time - 120 ticks, overclock - 117 ticks.

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x = 124, y = 67, rule = Symbiosis
34.2A78.2A$34.2A78.2A4$33.3A77.3A$34.A79.A$34.3A77.3A22$42.BA78.BA$
40.A79.A$37.A2.B76.A2.B$37.B79.B2$30.3A77.3A$32.A79.A$31.A79.A27$81.
2A$3A79.2A$2.A78.A$.A!
Stuck forever :lol:

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x = 65, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$4.A3.B$3.A.A2.A3.B23.B21.B4.B$4.A7.A23.A21.A4.A$4.B6.A.A21.A.A24.
A.A$12.A23.A13.BA11.A$12.B23.B26.B2$33.A26.A$33.B26.B3$3A20.3A24.3A$
2.A22.A26.A$.A22.A26.A!
Useless G-to-Pi and G-to-G:

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x = 47, y = 77, rule = Symbiosis
4$25.B$25.A8$20.B$20.A3$27.B4.B$27.A4.A$31.A.A$32.A$18.BA12.B2$29.A$
29.B3$19.3A$21.A$20.A17$22.A$20.BA.AB$22.A2$31.B$8.BA21.A8$26.B$26.A
3$33.B4.B$33.A4.A$37.A.A$38.A$24.BA12.B2$35.A$35.B3$25.3A$27.A$26.A!
Fast Pi-to-G converter that doesn't works with a previous G-to-Pi converter due to lack of spacing:

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x = 11, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
.B$.A$A.A$.A6.3A$.B6.A$8.3A6$7.A$5.BA.AB$7.A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by ENORMOUS_NAME » April 26th, 2021, 3:00 pm

weird g to c

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x = 20, y = 27, rule = Symbiosis
2$3.A$4.A$2.3A11$13.2A$14.2AB$12.A$11.B2A.AB3$11.BA2.AB3$11.BA2.AB!

b shuttle

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x = 17, y = 24, rule = Symbiosis
12.2B$12.2B2$9.B4AB$13.A$2.A6.BA$.B2$A$.B3$3.2A.A$4.3A$5.A9.B$16.A2$15.
B$6.AB6.A$3.A$2.B4AB2$3.2B$3.2B!

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x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
10.B$10.A$3A6.A.A$A.A7.A$A.A7.B! 

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x = 10, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
BA$.A$2.B2$3.B$3.A$3.A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A2.A.A$.B2A3.A$2.A$2.A$2.B! 

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei47 » April 26th, 2021, 3:47 pm

ENORMOUS_NAME wrote:
April 26th, 2021, 3:00 pm
b shuttle
LOL

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
.2A.A$2.3A$3.A3$13.B$4.AB6.A$.A$B4AB$6.B6.2B$.2B2.2B6.2B$.2B$11.2A$11.
2A$13.B!
?????

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
.2A.A$2.3A$3.A3$13.B$4.AB6.A$.A$B4AB$6.B6.2B$.2B2.2B6.2B$.2B$11.2A$11.
A.A$12.A!
EDIT: B->MWSS:

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
.2A.A$2.3A$3.A3$13.B$4.AB6.A$.A$B4AB$6.B6.2B$.2B2.2B6.2B$.2B$8.2A$7.B
A.A$10.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by May13 » April 27th, 2021, 8:32 am

Snark v2?
Repeat time - 24 ticks, bounding box - 5x3 :!:

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x = 43, y = 45, rule = Symbiosis
23.A2.A$21.6A$17.2A.A8.A$13.2A.A.A.A.8A2.A$11.3A.2A3.A.A7.3A$10.A4.3A
2.A3.A3.2A$11.3A3.2A.4A.A3.A.2A$12.A.A3.A5.A4.A2.A4.2A.A$10.A8.A.2A2.
2A2.2A5.A.2A.A$10.5A.4A.A4.3A7.A4.A$15.2A4.A4.A.3A2.2A.A.2A.2A$12.5A.
3A4.2A.2A3.A.A.A.A.A$11.A5.2A4.2A.A.2A5.A5.A$12.5A6.2A.A3.A3.A.A.2A.
2A$2A.2A9.2A2.A5.A.A4.A2.3A.A.A$.A.A.A.A.2A3.3A.A6.A2.A.A4.3A2.A$A2.A
7.A6.2A3.3A8.A.A.2A$3A2.A4.2A11.A10.A$5.4A.A17.2A4.2A$2.2A.A6.A14.A3.
A2.2A$.A4.A3.A16.A6.2A$.3A.A4.A16.A3.A2.A$11.A2.A3.A9.2A4.A.A.2A$.3A.
A4.A8.2A3.A10.3A2.A$.A4.A3.A7.A6.A8.3A.A.A$2.2A.A6.A10.3A8.A.A.2A.2A$
5.4A.A24.A5.A$3A2.A4.2A21.A.A.A.A.A$A2.A7.A9.2A10.2A.A.2A.2A$.A.A.A.A
.2A10.A8.A5.A4.A$2A.2A17.3A6.A4.A.2A.A$24.A4.3A5.2A.A4$36.A$37.A$35.
3A5$35.2A.2A$35.2A.2A$35.2B.2B!
p60 and p80 sparky pre-pulsar shuttles:

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x = 40, y = 17, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$4.A2$25.2B.2B.2B.2B.2B$25.2B.2B.2B.2B.2B3$31.3A3.3A$31.A.A3.A.A$
31.3A3.3A$3A3.3A$A.A3.A.A$3A3.3A16.2B.2B.2B.2B.2B$25.2B.2B.2B.2B.2B2$
4.A$4.B!
c/2 traffic light and pulsar makers:

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x = 192, y = 126, rule = Symbiosis
9$14.3A15.3A17.3A15.3A$13.A3.A13.A3.A15.A3.A13.A3.A$12.2A4.A11.A4.2A
13.2A4.A11.A4.2A$11.A.A.2A.2A3.3A3.2A.2A.A.A11.A.A.2A.2A3.3A3.2A.2A.A
.A$10.2A.A4.A.2A.3A.2A.A4.A.2A4.B4.2A.A4.A.2A.3A.2A.A4.A.2A$9.A4.A3.A
4.A.A4.A3.A4.A2.3B2.A4.A3.A4.A.A4.A3.A4.A$21.A5.A13.2B2.B13.A5.A$9.2A
7.2A9.2A7.2A.2B.2B.2A7.2A9.2A7.2A$41.2B.2B$41.B2.B$43.2B8.3A15.3A48.
3A15.3A17.3A15.3A$40.B2.2B7.A3.A13.A3.A46.A3.A13.A3.A15.A3.A13.A3.A$
41.3B7.2A4.A11.A4.2A44.2A4.A11.A4.2A13.2A4.A11.A4.2A$50.A.A.2A.2A3.3A
3.2A.2A.A.A42.A.A.2A.2A3.3A3.2A.2A.A.A11.A.A.2A.2A3.3A3.2A.2A.A.A$49.
2A.A4.A.2A.3A.2A.A4.A.2A40.2A.A4.A.2A.3A.2A.A4.A.2A4.B4.2A.A4.A.2A.3A
.2A.A4.A.2A$48.A4.A3.A4.A.A4.A3.A4.A38.A4.A3.A4.A.A4.A3.A4.A2.3B2.A4.
A3.A4.A.A4.A3.A4.A$60.A5.A62.A5.A13.2B.B14.A5.A$48.2A7.2A9.2A7.2A38.
2A7.2A9.2A7.2A7.2A7.2A9.2A7.2A3$161.3A15.3A$160.A3.A13.A3.A$159.2A4.A
11.A4.2A$12.3A15.3A17.3A15.3A87.A.A.2A.2A3.3A3.2A.2A.A.A$11.A3.A13.A
3.A7.B7.A3.A13.A3.A85.2A.A4.A.2A.3A.2A.A4.A.2A$10.2A4.A11.A4.2A6.B6.
2A4.A11.A4.2A83.A4.A3.A4.A.A4.A3.A4.A$9.A.A.2A.2A3.3A3.2A.2A.A.A4.B.B
4.A.A.2A.2A3.3A3.2A.2A.A.A94.A5.A$8.2A.A4.A.2A.3A.2A.A4.A.2A4.B4.2A.A
4.A.2A.3A.2A.A4.A.2A81.2A7.2A9.2A7.2A$7.A4.A3.A4.A.A4.A3.A4.A3.B3.A4.
A3.A4.A.A4.A3.A4.A$19.A5.A31.A5.A$7.2A7.2A9.2A7.2A3.B3.2A7.2A9.2A7.2A
$40.3B$39.B.B.B$10.3A15.3A7.3B.3B7.3A15.3A$9.A3.A13.A3.A7.B.B.B7.A3.A
13.A3.A$8.2A4.A11.A4.2A7.3B7.2A4.A11.A4.2A$7.A.A.2A.2A3.3A3.2A.2A.A.A
15.A.A.2A.2A3.3A3.2A.2A.A.A$6.2A.A4.A.2A.3A.2A.A4.A.2A5.3B5.2A.A4.A.
2A.3A.2A.A4.A.2A$5.A4.A3.A4.A.A4.A3.A4.A3.B.B.B3.A4.A3.A4.A.A4.A3.A4.
A$17.A5.A14.3B.3B14.A5.A$5.2A7.2A9.2A7.2A3.B.B.B3.2A7.2A9.2A7.2A$40.
3B$41.B11$37.3B3.3B2$35.B4.B.B4.B$35.B4.B.B4.B$35.B4.B.B4.B$37.3B3.3B
2$37.3B3.3B$35.B4.B.B4.B$35.B4.B.B4.B$35.B4.B.B4.B2$37.3B3.3B7$38.B5.
B$38.B5.B$38.2B3.2B2$34.3B2.2B.2B2.3B$36.B.B.B.B.B.B$38.2B3.2B2$38.2B
3.2B$36.B.B.B.B.B.B$34.3B2.2B.2B2.3B2$38.2B3.2B$38.B5.B$38.B5.B7$37.
2B5.2B$38.2B3.2B$35.B2.B.B.B.B2.B$35.3B.2B.2B.3B$36.B.B.B.B.B.B$37.3B
3.3B2$37.3B3.3B$36.B.B.B.B.B.B$35.3B.2B.2B.3B$35.B2.B.B.B.B2.B$38.2B
3.2B$37.2B5.2B!
Edit: 75-tick HWSS heisenburp!

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x = 14, y = 57, rule = Symbiosis
.B$.A$A.A$.A$.B$12.A$12.2A$11.A.A$3.B2A$3.B2A3$.AB$9.3A$9.A2.A$3.2A4.
A$3.2A4.A3.A$3.2B4.A3.A$9.A$10.A.A31$10.A$9.3A$8.2A.A$8.3A$8.3A$8.3A$
9.2A!
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Puffership heisenburp:

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x = 70, y = 49, rule = Symbiosis
5$20.A7.A18.A7.A$19.3A5.3A16.3A5.3A$18.2A2.A3.A2.2A14.A2.2A3.2A2.A$
18.A2.A5.A2.A$17.2A3.2A.2A3.2A$18.A.A.2A.2A.A.A13.A3.2A3.2A3.A$19.A9.
A13.A2.2A2.A.A2.2A2.A$8.2B10.A2.A.A2.A15.A.A3.A.A3.A.A$8.2B37.3A3.3A$
17.2A2.2A3.2A2.2A16.A5.A$17.2A11.2A2$8.B2A10.A5.A17.A11.A$8.B2A10.2A
3.2A17.A11.A2$32.A10.A4.2A3.2A$16.A14.3A8.3A3.2A3.2A4.A$15.3A12.A2.2A
6.A2.2A12.3A$14.A2.2A2.2A3.2A2.3A2.A5.2A3.A10.A2.2A$14.2A5.2A3.2A5.A.
A6.2A2.A10.2A$13.A19.A2.A9.A8.A2.A$13.3A18.2A6.A4.A.A3.2A$34.2A5.A7.A
3.7A$41.A6.A11.2A.2A$42.2A.3A12.A.3A$30.A10.A19.3A$29.A2.A$14.A15.A.A
$13.A.A$12.A3.A43.3A$12.A3.A43.A.A$13.A.A$14.A3$60.A.A$60.3A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by Sarah » April 27th, 2021, 1:03 pm

Random thing
Edit: It's apparently a period 119122 oscillator

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x = 19, y = 17, rule = Symbiosis
13.B$8.2B2.B2.B$8.B.2A.B2.B$6.2B.4A.B$6.B.A4.A.B.B$5.3A4.A.A.B$.2A.A8.
A.A.A$2.A.4A3.A5.A$.B.A4.A.4A2.A$B.B.5A.A4.A.2B$.B4.B.A.A3.A.B.B$5.B.
B.4A3.B$5.2B.B.A.3AB.B$8.BA3.A.2B$8.B.3A.B$9.B.A.2B$10.2B!
Edit 2: Here's a sorta related period 138205

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x = 18, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
7.2B2.B$7.B.2A.B$5.2B.4A.B$3.A.B.A4.A.B$3.4A6.A.B$5.A8.A.A$.3A7.A4.A$
B.A2.2A3.6A$.B.4A6.2A.B$5.B.2A.2A3.B.B$4.B.B.A.A.A2.B.B$5.B.B4.2AB.B$
7.BA3.A.2B$7.B.A.A.B$8.B.A.2B$9.2B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by cgoler2 » April 27th, 2021, 1:24 pm

Could a glider gun be made based on this?

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x = 27, y = 20, rule = Symbiosis
2$12.B.B$12.B.B.B$13.4B4$11.A$10.A.A2.B.2B$10.2A.A.4B2.2BA$11.BA.BAB
3.B.A$10.A2.A.AB.2B.3B$10.B.A.B.B.2BA.BA$8.2B.B2.A.BA.BA2.A$9.B.2B2.B
AB3.B.AB$9.B12.A$8.2B!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by ENORMOUS_NAME » April 27th, 2021, 3:06 pm

cgoler2 wrote:
April 27th, 2021, 1:24 pm
Could a glider gun be made based on this?

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x = 27, y = 20, rule = Symbiosis
2$12.B.B$12.B.B.B$13.4B4$11.A$10.A.A2.B.2B$10.2A.A.4B2.2BA$11.BA.BAB
3.B.A$10.A2.A.AB.2B.3B$10.B.A.B.B.2BA.BA$8.2B.B2.A.BA.BA2.A$9.B.2B2.B
AB3.B.AB$9.B12.A$8.2B!

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x = 20, y = 32, rule = Symbiosis
6.2A$6.2A9$14.A$14.B5$7.B.B$7.B.B.B$AB6.4B4$6.A$5.A.A2.B.2B$5.2A.A.4B
2.2BA$6.BA.BAB3.B.A$5.A2.A.AB.2B.3B$5.B.A.B.B.2BA.BA$3.2B.B2.A.BA.BA2.
A$4.B.2B2.BAB3.B.AB$4.B12.A$3.2B!

https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewt ... 34#p111934

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x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
10.B$10.A$3A6.A.A$A.A7.A$A.A7.B! 

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x = 10, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
BA$.A$2.B2$3.B$3.A$3.A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A2.A.A$.B2A3.A$2.A$2.A$2.B! 

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by shuich01 » April 30th, 2021, 4:59 am

p835

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = Symbiosis
.A$A.A$.A$12.A$10.2B4.B$10.B5.A$13.BA$13.2B2.B$8.A2B2.2B2.A$9.A5.A$
16.B$14.B$15.A4$10.2A$10.2A!
p169

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x = 16, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
2A$2A$10.A$8.2B4.B$8.B5.A$11.BA$11.2B2.B$6.A2B2.2B2.A$7.A5.A$14.B$12.
B$13.A!
p285

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x = 17, y = 17, rule = Symbiosis
4.2A$3.A.A$2.A$.A$A$2A2$11.A$9.2B4.B$9.B.B3.A$9.B2.BA$9.B2.2B2.B$7.A
2B2.2B2.A$8.A5.A$15.B$13.B$14.A!
p183

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x = 13, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
2A$2A$7.A$5.2B4.B$5.B.B3.A$5.B2.BA$5.B2.2B2.B$3.A2B2.2B2.A$4.A5.A$11.
B$9.B$10.A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by ihatecorderships » April 30th, 2021, 11:21 am

This is actually a family of rules.
For example, this:

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@RULE Symbiosis37

@TABLE

n_states:38
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37}
a,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
a,a,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
0,a,a,a,0,0,0,0,0,a
a,a,a,a,a,0,0,0,0,0
a,a,a,a,a,a,0,0,0,0
a,a,a,a,a,a,a,0,0,0
a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,0,0
a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,0
Just extend a to the number of states you want, and adjust n_states with it.
I think this family of rules should be called "Class 3.5" in Wolfram's classification because most patterns grow stable but some are chaotic like this one:

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x = 39, y = 36, rule = Symbiosis37
31.S.pD2.pD.S$19.2S4.S.S4.S.2pD.S$20.S2.2S.S.2S2.2S2.S$2S21.2S.S2.S2.
2S2.2S$23.4S5.S.S$2.S23.S2.S2pD3.S$23.2S.S.S4.S$2S21.2S.S.pD.3pD.S.S$
6.2S15.2S.S2.pD2.2pD.2S$16.2S5.S.S.pD8.pD$15.S.2S4.2S.2pD.pD$15.S2.2S
2.S2.pD3.pD2.pD$16.3S3.2S$16.S.S.S.S.pD$10.2S7.2S2.pD5.2pD$4.S4.3S3.
2S.2S.2pD.pD$2.S2.S.pD.S2.3S.S.S.3pD5.pD$4.S.pD.pD.2S.S5.pD$S2.S.pD.
3pD.S2.S4.2pD$2S2.pD5.pD2.pD.S.2S.pD3.pD5.3pD$2.3pD.3pD3.pD.pD4.S2.2pD
2.2M2.3pD2.2pD$.3pD.4pD.2pD.2pD.4S.3pD.pD.M.pD4.2pD.pD$5.2pD.2pD.3pD.
S4.S5.2pD4.pD$8.2pD3.pD.4S.S6.MpD3.pD3.pD$11.pD2.S4.S.pD6.M2pD5.pD$7.
pD2.pD.7S.3pD.2pD2.M.pD5.2pD$pD7.2pD.S.S5.pD.2pD.pD.S2.M.2pD2.pD2.pD$
9.pD.S.5S2.pD4.S2.SM3.2S.pD$9.2pD.S3.S.3pD8.2S4.S.pD$8.pD3.S.2S.pD.pD
10.M2S4.pD$8.4pD.2S.2pD12.M.S4.pD$.2pD9.pD2.pD.pD11.2M5.S.pD$S.pD12.
2pD19.3S$.S24.2S$26.2S10.S$24.2pD!

@RULE Symbiosis37

@TABLE

n_states:38
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37}
a,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
a,a,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
0,a,a,a,0,0,0,0,0,a
a,a,a,a,a,0,0,0,0,0
a,a,a,a,a,a,0,0,0,0
a,a,a,a,a,a,a,0,0,0
a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,0,0
a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,0
I call these "fumaroles" and are just a line between two states that never dies and fumes chaotic stuff.
These rules should be turing-complete because all the normal CGoL patterns are available here if you just write one state, and then there's the added benefit of extra states. I'm surprised there has been not much talk on this rule except for random patterns which are common with more states. And of course, they're all omniperiodic.
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pzq_alex » May 4th, 2021, 6:07 am

Is this known?

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x = 19, y = 7, rule = SymbiosisHistory
17.2F$18.F$16.3F2$3A$A.A$A.A4.BA!
[[ STOP 186 ]]
Edit:
h to g

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
3.A4.A$4.B3.B4$AB2$8.3A$9.A$7.3A!
another similar one

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x = 9, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
.AB$A$B5$6.3A$7.A$5.3A!
Last edited by pzq_alex on May 15th, 2021, 12:10 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei47 » May 4th, 2021, 7:40 am

pzq_alex wrote:
May 4th, 2021, 6:07 am
Is this known?
I'm almost 100% sure that it's new.
Help me find high-period c/2 technology!
My guide: https://bit.ly/3uJtzu9
My c/2 tech collection: https://bit.ly/3qUJg0u
Overview of periods: https://bit.ly/3LwE0I5
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by yujh » May 4th, 2021, 7:54 am

wwei47 wrote:
May 4th, 2021, 7:40 am
pzq_alex wrote:
May 4th, 2021, 6:07 am
Is this known?
I'm almost 100% sure that it's new.
And 50% useless?
Rule modifier

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei47 » May 4th, 2021, 8:00 am

yujh wrote:
May 4th, 2021, 7:54 am
And 50% useless?
No. Almost definitely not. Knowing Symbiosis, I feel like that chances are that the junk can be cleaned up. At the same time, most conduits rarely get used, so you could say that all conduits are mostly useless.
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by ENORMOUS_NAME » May 4th, 2021, 11:05 am

I got a B out of it.

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x = 29, y = 10, rule = SymbiosisHistory
2.F24.2F$.2F25.F$2F24.3F$.2F$10.3A$10.A.A$10.A.A4.BA2$BA$2B!

edit: changed the conduit, but now it edgeshoots a B with enough clearance to fit inside conduit 1.

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x = 34, y = 22, rule = SymbiosisHistory
25.2A$25.2A2$24.F7.AB$23.3F6.A$23.F.2F10$BA12.3A$14.A.A$14.A.A4.BA3$3.
A$2.B!


edit2: super weird pi to h with temporary eater

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x = 24, y = 33, rule = SymbiosisHistory
4.AB$5.A8$12.3A8.B$12.A.A8.A$12.A.A19$.3F$.F$3F!

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???????

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x = 10, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
3.B2.B$2.6A$.A6.A$BA6.AB$.A6.A$BA6.AB$.A6.A$BA6.AB$.A6.A!


weird replicator-like stuff

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x = 9, y = 469, rule = Symbiosis
.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$B
A5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A
3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.
AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A
$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.
2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA
5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.
2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB
$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$
BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A
3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.
AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A
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2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA
5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.
2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB
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BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A
3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.
AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A
$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.
2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA
5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.
2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB
$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$
BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A
3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.
AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A
$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.
2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA
5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.
2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB
$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$
BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A
3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.
AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A
$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.
2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA
5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.
2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB
$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$
BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A
3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.
AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A
$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.
2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA
5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.
2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB
$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$
BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A$BA5.AB$.A.3A.A$BA.A.A.AB
$.A.A.A.A$BA5.AB$.A5.A$BA5.AB$.A5.A$BA5.AB$.2A3.2A!

--------------------------------

teardrop to pi

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x = 21, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
3$13.B$8.A2.AB.B$3.2B3.B4.B.2A$2.B2.B9.2A$2.B2.B$3.3B!

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x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
10.B$10.A$3A6.A.A$A.A7.A$A.A7.B! 

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x = 10, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
BA$.A$2.B2$3.B$3.A$3.A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A2.A.A$.B2A3.A$2.A$2.A$2.B! 

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by pzq_alex » May 8th, 2021, 10:44 am

p356.

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x = 18, y = 17, rule = SymbiosisHistory
11.C$10.3C$9.4C$8.6C$7.5C.A$6.6C.B$5.7C$4.11C$3.12C$3.12C.BA$3.12C$AB
.6CA5C$3.C2A2C3A$5.3ACA.B$4.B.3A.B$5.B.A.B$6.B.B!
Can it be stablized differently?

edit: by "it" i mean

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x = 8, y = 4, rule = SymbiosisHistory
6.A$.A3.A.B$B.A.A.B$.B.A.B!
In fact yes:

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x = 10, y = 8, rule = SymbiosisHistory
AB4$8.A$3.A3.A.B$2.B.A.A.B$3.B.A.B!
p253
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by ENORMOUS_NAME » May 8th, 2021, 11:21 am

Here is a strong p387 sparker with the engine

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x = 32, y = 27, rule = SymbiosisHistory
13.C$12.3C$12.3C$11.5C.C$11.9C$10.12C$10.13C$11.12C$11.14C$10.15C$10.
11C3.A$10.11C.BACAB$10.11C3.A$10.19C$10.19C$9.14C3A4C$8.22C$8.23C$3.28C
$.19C3A2C2A4C$20C6AC2A3C$.18CA5CAC2A2C$3.17C2A5CA$5.2C2.2C2.7C2.A3CA.
B$16.4C.B.ACA.B$13.2B2.2C3.B.A.B$13.2B!

and it can be used to make a gun

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x = 71, y = 57, rule = SymbiosisHistory
7.4C$8.4C$9.4C$10.4C$11.4C$12.4C31.C$13.4C29.3C$14.4C28.3C$15.4C26.5C
.C$16.4C25.9C$17.4C23.12C$18.4C22.13C$19.4C22.12C$20.4C21.14C$21.4C19.
15C$22.4C18.11C3.A$23.4C17.11C.BACAB$24.4C16.11C3.A$25.4C15.19C$26.4C
14.19C$27.4C12.21C$28.4C10.22C$20.2B7.4C9.23C$8.B.A.B3.2C2.2B8.4C3.28C
$7.B.3A.B.4C12.34C$6.B.A3CA2.7C2.2C2.2C2.34C$7.A3CA20C.32C$3.4CA3CA24C
.20C5A$3.6CA25C4.2C2.2C2.7C2.A3CA.B$4.30C16.4C.B.ACA.B$4.28C15.2B2.2C
3.B.A.B$4.23C20.2B$5.22C$5.21C$6.19C$6.19C$10.A3.11C$8.BACAB.11C$10.A
3.11C$10.15C$10.14C$12.12C$12.13C$13.12C$15.9C$17.C.5C$20.3C$20.3C$21.
C!

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x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
10.B$10.A$3A6.A.A$A.A7.A$A.A7.B! 

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x = 10, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
BA$.A$2.B2$3.B$3.A$3.A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A2.A.A$.B2A3.A$2.A$2.A$2.B! 

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by FWKnightship » May 8th, 2021, 11:07 pm

A oscillator collection of Symbiosis,Including 2042 oscillators in 276 different periods.
Attachments
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Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
AttributeError: 'FWKnightship' object has no attribute 'signature'

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by FWKnightship » May 9th, 2021, 2:49 am

P603 glider gun:

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x = 18, y = 21, rule = Symbiosis
13.B$12.A$5.B.2B.BA2.BAB$5.2A2.2A.2A.A$4.BA.2A.A5.AB$9.A2$AB2$.A$BA$
2.B8$12.A$12.B!
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
AttributeError: 'FWKnightship' object has no attribute 'signature'

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by cgoler2 » May 9th, 2021, 5:34 pm

Period-272 sparker:

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x = 24, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
12.2B$11.3B2.3B$11.B2.2B2.B$12.3B2.B$14.3B$13.3B$2.ABA9.2B.BA.2B.A$2B
2.B10.2B.2B2.B$.A.A10.A.B3.2B$.B.B12.BA.A$18.B!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by ENORMOUS_NAME » May 9th, 2021, 6:05 pm

period 530 herschel factory with the same engine

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x = 40, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis
16.2A$16.2A5$38.BA3$AB3$19.B$17.2B.2B$9.A6.2B.2B2.B$9.B7.B.2B.B$8.B.B
9.B$9.B10.B.BA.2B.A$9.A10.2B.2B2.B$19.A.B3.2B$21.BA.A$23.B!

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x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
10.B$10.A$3A6.A.A$A.A7.A$A.A7.B! 

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x = 10, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
BA$.A$2.B2$3.B$3.A$3.A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A2.A.A$.B2A3.A$2.A$2.A$2.B! 

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by bibunsekibun » May 10th, 2021, 5:20 am

P103

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x = 11, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
7.A2.B$A3.AB.2B.A$B3.2B2.B$4.B!
Edit:P41 related to P103

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x = 11, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis
7.A2.B$A3.AB.2B.A$B3.2B2.B$4.B17$3.A$2.B!
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x = 15, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
7.A$6.A.2A$B2A3.2A2.A.A$BA4.BA.A.B.AB$8.A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by cgoler2 » May 10th, 2021, 10:33 am

P155:

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x = 22, y = 22, rule = Symbiosis
15.B$16.2A$16.2A2$8.A.B$8.3A$12.2A$10.2A.A3.B$5.B3.B3.A4.A2.B$6.A3.A
2.A6.AB$10.A.A2$6.B.A.2A$7.A2.4A$7.A3.A.2A$7.A.A.A.A$8.2A.2A$BA$B2$
14.B$15.A!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by ihatecorderships » May 10th, 2021, 12:30 pm

P47:

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x = 10, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
2.3A$BA3.A$.2A.2A2.A$4.B2.2BA!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by ENORMOUS_NAME » May 10th, 2021, 1:32 pm

P3640 with a similar engine

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x = 19, y = 26, rule = Symbiosis
2.2B$2.2B3$8.2A$7.A2.A$8.2A3$17.AB4$3.2A$3.2A.B.2B$4.B.A.AB6$5.A.A$2.
3A3.A$BA6.A$.2A.2A2.A$4.B2.2BA!

It can be gunned like this:

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x = 33, y = 125, rule = Symbiosis
2$9.A2B2.B$10.A2.2A.2A$10.A2.A.A.AB$10.3A$10.3A6$9.BA.A.B$9.2B.B.2A$14.
2A4$BA8$15.2B$15.2B66$9.2B$9.2B8$24.AB4$10.2A$10.2A.B.2B$11.B.A.AB7$13.
3A$7.BA.A.A.A$8.2A.2A2.A$11.B2.2BA!

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x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
10.B$10.A$3A6.A.A$A.A7.A$A.A7.B! 

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x = 10, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
BA$.A$2.B2$3.B$3.A$3.A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A2.A.A$.B2A3.A$2.A$2.A$2.B! 

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by cgoler2 » May 10th, 2021, 5:26 pm

Period-267 sparker:

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x = 16, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
3.B.2A$4.A2.A7.A$.2A.4A6.2B$.A2.A3.B$3.A$2.2A$BA2.A.A$7.A$3.A2.A$2.B
3A$14.BA2$3.A2.3A$2.B3$7.BA$13.B$13.A!
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x = 9, y = 18, rule = Symbiosis
BA$.B$2.A$2.B4.2B$3.A.AB.B$4.B.B$2.A2.3B$.BA4$3.B$3.3B$B4.2B.B$4B.B.
2B$.B.B$6.2B$6.2B!
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x = 8, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
2.BA3$.2B4.A$.2B3.B$.A$2.B$A3B6$4.BA!

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