Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by toroidalet » February 9th, 2018, 7:45 pm

smaller parallel splitter with a repeat time of 392:

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x = 320, y = 48, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
112bo$110bo$110b2o3$110bo$108b5o$108bo3bo3b2o$107b2obob2o2bo$108bo3bo
5bo$108b5o$8bo65bo35bo$6b5o61b5o$b2o3bo3bo61bo3bo45b2o194b2o$2bo2b2obo
b2o3bo55b2obob2o44bo195bo$o5bo3bo2b5o54bo3bo14bo4bo25b2o194b2o$6b5o2bo
3bo5bo48b5o16bo4bo$8bo3b2obob2o2b5o48bo17b2o3b2o$13bo3bo3bo3bo5bo84bo$
13b5o2b2obob2o2b5o38bo3bo11bo25b5o$6b2o7bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo50bo5bo17bo3b
o3b2o$6bo14b5o2b2obob2o2b5o32bo14b2o22b2obob2o2bo$8bo14bo5bo3bo3bo3bo
5bo24b5o37bo3bo5bo$29b5o2b2obob2o2b5o22bo3bo37b5o$31bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo
15b2obob2o38bo$37b5o2b2obob2o2b5o14bo3bo$39bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo8b5o21b2o$
45b5o2b2obob2o2b5o8bo23bo$47bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo28bo$53b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$
55bo5bo3bo3bo3bo13bo$61b5o2b2obob2o4bo5b5o$63bo5bo3bo3b5o3bo3bo$69b5o
3bo3bo2b2obob2o$71bo7bo5bo3bo$85b5o$87bo5bo10bo$70b2o19b5o6b5o$70bo20b
o3bo6bo3bo$72bo17b2obob2o4b2obob2o$91bo3bo6bo3bo$91b5o6b5o$93bo10bo3$
92b2o9b2o$93bo10bo$91bo10bo!
When short repeat times (≤100) are necessary:
repeat time 68 splitter:

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x = 117, y = 62, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
13bo$15bo$14b2o3$14bo$12b5o$12bo3bo$11b2obob2o$12bo3bo$12b5o$14bo23bo$
36b5o$36bo3bo5bo$35b2obob2o2bo$36bo3bo3b2o$36b5o$38bo3$48b2o32b2o$48bo
33bo$48b2o32b2o2$32bo$30b5o46bo$30bo3bo44b5o22bo$29b2obob2o37bo5bo3bo
5bo14bo$30bo3bo36b5o2b2obob2o2b5o12b2o$30b5o30bo5bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$
32bo30b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$57bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo
7bo$34bo20b5o2b2obob2o2b5o11b5o2b2obob2o2b5o3bo$26bo5b5o12bo5bo3bo3bo
3bo5bo15bo5bo3bo3bo3bo3b2o$28bo3bo3bo10b5o2b2obob2o2b5o27b5o2b2obob2o$
27b2o2b2obob2o3bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo31bo5bo3bo$32bo3bo2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o43b
5o$32b5o2bo3bo3bo3bo5bo47bo$34bo3b2obob2o2b5o56bo$39bo3bo5bo56b5o5bo$
39b5o62bo3bo3bo$32b2o7bo59bo3b2obob2o2b2o$33bo65b5o2bo3bo$31bo61bo5bo
3bo2b5o$68bo22b5o2b2obob2o3bo$70bo14bo5bo3bo3bo3bo$69b2o12b5o2b2obob2o
2b5o$77bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo7b2o$75b5o2b2obob2o2b5o13bo$61bo7bo5bo3bo3bo3b
o5bo17bo$63bo3b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$62b2o3bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$66b2obob2o2b5o$67b
o3bo5bo$67b5o$8bo60bo$6b5o$o5bo3bo$2bo2b2obob2o$b2o3bo3bo$6b5o$8bo!
the glider stream can be compressed up to p63 but then the second glider doesn't split.
A voluminous splitter with repeat time 37 (far too big for practical use):

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x = 1039, y = 46, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
21bo$20bobo$20b3o$21bo7$12bo$14bo$13b2o$1019bo8bo$1017b5o4b5o$14bo996b
o5bo3bo4bo3bo$12b5o992b5o2b2obob2o2b2obob2o$12bo3bo986bo5bo3bo3bo3bo4b
o3bo$11b2obob2o983b5o2b2obob2o2b5o4b5o$12bo3bo18bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo8bo$12b5o3bobo10b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
2b2obob2o2b5o$14bo5b3o4bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo
5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo
5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo
5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo
5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo
5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo
5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$25b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$25bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo5bo$24b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o$25bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo
5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo
5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo
5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo
5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo$
25b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o$27bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo$8bo$o
5b5o$2bo3bo3bo$b2o2b2obob2o$6bo3bo$6b5o$8bo1026bo$1033b5o$1033bo3bo$
1032b2obob2o$1033bo3bo$1033b5o$1035bo3$1035b2o$1036bo$1034bo!
(certainly qualifies for the thinnest splitter in this rule).
Interesting facts about the thinnest glider splitter in this rule:
It takes exactly 2148 generations from 1st interaction (gen 7 in above) for the split glider to appear.
The stable circuitry required for it has a total population of 2721.
Any sufficiently advanced software is indistinguishable from malice.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 10th, 2018, 12:09 am

Revisiting this with some new 2c/19 technology.

2c/19 puffers:

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x = 76, y = 23, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
12bo49bo$9bo5bo43bo5bo$6b2o9b2o37b2o9b2o$6bobo3bo3bobo37bobo3bo3bobo$
6b3o7b3o37b3o7b3o$12bo49bo$10b5o45b5o$10bo3bo45bo3bo$9b2obob2o43b2obob
2o$10bo3bo45bo3bo$10b5o45b5o7bo$5bo6bo10bo31bo6bo6bob3obo$2bo5bo11bob
3obo25bo5bo12b3o$o9bo11b3o25bo9bo10b3o$o4bo4bo11b3o25bo4bo4bo11bo$o9bo
12bo26bo9bo10b3o$22b3o45bo3bo$3bo3bo13bo3bo27bo3bo12bo3bo$4b3o14bo3bo
28b3o12b2obob2o$4bobo13b2obob2o27bobo13bo3bo$4b3o14bo3bo28b3o13b5o$21b
5o46bo$23bo!
Extensible spaceship:

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x = 28, y = 37, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
12bo$9bo5bo$6b2o9b2o$6bobo3bo3bobo$6b3o7b3o$12bo$10b5o$10bo3bo$9b2obob
2o$10bo3bo$10b5o$5bo6bo10bo$2bo5bo11bob3obo$o9bo11b3o$o4bo4bo11b3o$o9b
o12bo$22b3o$3bo3bo13bo3bo$4b3o14bo3bo$4bobo13b2obob2o$4b3o14bo3bo$21b
5o$23bo3$21bo$18bo5bo$15b2o9b2o$15bobo3bo3bobo$15b3o7b3o$21bo$19b5o$
19bo3bo$18b2obob2o$19bo3bo$19b5o$21bo!
I couldn't get to a rake, but this looks close:

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x = 31, y = 38, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
18bo$15bo5bo$12b2o9b2o$12bobo3bo3bobo$12b3o7b3o$18bo$16b5o$16bo3bo$15b
2obob2o$16bo3bo$16b5o$7bo10bo6bo$4bob3obo11bo5bo$6b3o11bo9bo$6b3o11bo
4bo4bo$7bo12bo9bo$6b3o$5bo3bo13bo3bo$5bo3bo14b3o$4b2obob2o13bobo$5bo3b
o14b3o$5b5o$7bo4$7bo$4bo5bo$bo11bo$2o5bo5b2o$b3o2b3o2b3o$2bo4bo4bo$5b
5o$5bo3bo$4b2obob2o$5bo3bo$5b5o$7bo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 77topaz » February 10th, 2018, 1:24 am

toroidalet wrote:A voluminous splitter with repeat time 37 (far too big for practical use):

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RLE
(certainly qualifies for the thinnest splitter in this rule).
Interesting facts about the thinnest glider splitter in this rule:
It takes exactly 2148 generations from 1st interaction (gen 7 in above) for the split glider to appear.
The stable circuitry required for it has a total population of 2721.
That's an interesting and unusual pattern. I see the width is required only to allow the gliders to get a certain distance ahead of the "ripple"? I wonder if there's any sort of reaction that could delay/slow down the "ripple", to allow compression of that unwieldily long repeating section.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by Saka » February 10th, 2018, 3:34 am

Accidentally found this 9c/10o fuse thing

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x = 7, y = 61, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo2$
3bo$b5o$bo3bo$2obob2o$bo3bo$b5o$3bo!
It can be "lighted" very easily

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x = 3, y = 93, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo33$3o$obo5$3o$ob
o!
Snowflake ring!

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x = 101, y = 101, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
85b2o$86bo$86b2o3$5b2o32bo15bo15bo15bo7bo$6bo30b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o3b3o$
6b2o16bo6bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo3bo$29b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2o
bob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o$15bo8bo4bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$8bo19b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o$6b5o4bo13bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo$6bo3bo18b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o8bo$2bo2b2obob2o19bo15bo15bo15bo8b5o$3o3bo3bo77bo3bo$o5b5o
76b2obob2o$8bo79bo3bo$88b5o$10bo79bo$8b5o$8bo3bo79bo$7b2obob2o76b5o$8b
o3bo77bo3bo$8b5o76b2obob2o$10bo79bo3bo$90b5o$8bo83bo$6b5o$6bo3bo79bo$
5b2obob2o76b5o$6bo3bo77bo3bo$6b5o76b2obob2o$8bo79bo3bo$88b5o$10bo79bo$
8b5o$8bo3bo79bo$7b2obob2o76b5o$8bo3bo77bo3bo$8b5o76b2obob2o$10bo79bo3b
o$90b5o$8bo83bo$6b5o$6bo3bo79bo$5b2obob2o76b5o$6bo3bo77bo3bo$6b5o76b2o
bob2o$8bo79bo3bo$88b5o$10bo79bo$8b5o$8bo3bo79bo$7b2obob2o76b5o$8bo3bo
77bo3bo$8b5o76b2obob2o$10bo79bo3bo$90b5o$8bo83bo$6b5o$6bo3bo79bo$5b2ob
ob2o76b5o$6bo3bo77bo3bo$6b5o76b2obob2o$8bo79bo3bo$88b5o$10bo79bo$8b5o$
8bo3bo79bo$7b2obob2o76b5o$8bo3bo77bo3bo$8b5o76b2obob2o$10bo79bo3bo$90b
5o$8bo83bo$6b5o$6bo3bo79bo$5b2obob2o76b5o$6bo3bo77bo3bo$6b5o76b2obob2o
$8bo79bo3bo$88b5o$10bo79bo$8b5o$8bo3bo79bo$7b2obob2o76b5o5bo$8bo3bo77b
o3bo3b3o$8b5o8bo15bo15bo15bo15bo3b2obob2o2bo$10bo8b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o2bo3bo$13bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo2b5o$11b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o3bo$11bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$10b2obob2o2b5o
2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$7bo3bo3bo5bo5bo3b
o5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo7b2o$5b3o3b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o14bo$
5bo7bo15bo15bo15bo15bo16b2o3$13b2o$14bo$14b2o!
Fancy spiral reflector

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x = 131, y = 101, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
115b2o$116bo$116b2o3$53bo15bo15bo15bo15bo7bo$51b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
3b3o$45bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo3bo$43b5o2b2obob2o
2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o$2o41bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$bo40b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$2o41bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo$43b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o8bo$45bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo8b5o$118bo3bo$117b2obob2o$99b2o17bo3bo$100bo17b5o$100b2o18bo2$122b
o$35b2o16bo15bo15bo15bo7bo10b5o$36bo14b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o3b3o10bo3bo$
36b2o7bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo3bo11b2obob2o$43b5o2b2obob2o
2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o15bo3bo$43bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo16b5o$38bo3b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o18bo$36b5o2bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo$36bo
3bo2b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o8bo15bo$32bo2b2obob2o3bo15bo15bo15bo8b5o11b5o$
30b3o3bo3bo61bo3bo11bo3bo$30bo5b5o60b2obob2o9b2obob2o$38bo44b2o17bo3bo
11bo3bo$84bo17b5o11b5o$40bo43b2o18bo15bo$38b5o$38bo3bo63bo15bo$37b2obo
b2o7b2o16bo15bo7bo10b5o11b5o$38bo3bo9bo14b5o11b5o3b3o10bo3bo11bo3bo$
38b5o9b2o7bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo3bo11b2obob2o9b2obob2o$40bo18b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o15bo3bo11bo3bo$59bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo16b5o11b5o$38bo15bo
3b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o18bo15bo$36b5o11b5o2bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo$36bo3b
o11bo3bo2b5o11b5o8bo15bo15bo$35b2obob2o6bo2b2obob2o3bo9b2o4bo8b5o11b5o
11b5o$36bo3bo5b3o3bo3bo15bo13bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo$36b5o5bo5b5o15b2o11b
2obob2o9b2obob2o9b2obob2o$38bo15bo31bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo$86b5o11b5o11b
5o$40bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo$38b5o11b5o11b5o$38bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo15bo
15bo15bo$37b2obob2o9b2obob2o9b2obob2o12b5o5bo5b5o11b5o$38bo3bo11bo3bo
11bo3bo13bo3bo3b3o5bo3bo11bo3bo$38b5o11b5o11b5o8bo3b2obob2o2bo6b2obob
2o9b2obob2o$40bo15bo15bo8b5o2bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo$75bo5bo3bo2b5o11b5o
11b5o$38bo15bo18b5o2b2obob2o3bo15bo15bo$36b5o11b5o16bo3bo3bo3bo$36bo3b
o11bo3bo15b2obob2o2b5o18bo15bo$35b2obob2o9b2obob2o11bo3bo3bo5bo7b2o9b
5o11b5o$36bo3bo11bo3bo10b3o3b5o14bo9bo3bo11bo3bo$36b5o11b5o10bo7bo16b
2o7b2obob2o9b2obob2o$38bo15bo47bo3bo11bo3bo$102b5o11b5o$40bo15bo18b2o
27bo15bo$38b5o11b5o17bo$38bo3bo11bo3bo17b2o28bo15bo$37b2obob2o9b2obob
2o44b5o5bo5b5o$38bo3bo11bo3bo45bo3bo3b3o5bo3bo$38b5o11b5o8bo15bo15bo3b
2obob2o2bo6b2obob2o$40bo15bo8b5o11b5o11b5o2bo3bo11bo3bo$59bo5bo3bo5bo
5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo2b5o11b5o$38bo18b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o
3bo15bo$36b5o16bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$36bo3bo15b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o18bo$35b2obob2o11bo3bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3b
o5bo7b2o9b5o$36bo3bo10b3o3b5o11b5o11b5o14bo9bo3bo$36b5o10bo7bo15bo15bo
16b2o7b2obob2o$38bo79bo3bo$118b5o$40bo18b2o59bo$38b5o17bo$38bo3bo17b2o
60bo$37b2obob2o76b5o5bo$38bo3bo77bo3bo3b3o$38b5o8bo15bo15bo15bo15bo3b
2obob2o2bo$40bo8b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o2bo3bo$43bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5b
o3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo2b5o$41b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o3bo$41bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$40b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o
2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$37bo3bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo7b
2o$35b3o3b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o14bo$35bo7bo15bo15bo15bo15bo16b2o3$43b
2o$44bo$44b2o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by KittyTac » February 10th, 2018, 4:57 am

The proper word is "lit", by the way.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by toroidalet » February 10th, 2018, 12:35 pm

77topaz wrote:That's an interesting and unusual pattern. I see the width is required only to allow the gliders to get a certain distance ahead of the "ripple"? I wonder if there's any sort of reaction that could delay/slow down the "ripple", to allow compression of that unwieldily long repeating section.
If you had looked at all the patterns you would've seen that the second splitter (repeat time 68) does exactly that.
smaller conduit-based splitter with repeat time 311:

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x = 227, y = 54, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
15bo$13bo$13b2o3$14bo$12b5o41bo$12bo3bo39bo$11b2obob2o38b2o$12bo3bo$
12b5o$14bo41bo$54b5o$54bo3bo3b2o$53b2obob2o2bo$54bo3bo5bo$54b5o$21bo
34bo$19b5o$19bo3bo44b2o154b2o$18b2obob2o43bo154b2obo$19bo3bo13bo4bo25b
2o154b2o$19b5o15bo4bo$21bo16b2o3b2o$8bo53bo$6b5o23bo25b5o$o5bo3bo25bo
5bo17bo3bo3b2o$2bo2b2obob2o23b2o22b2obob2o2bo$b2o3bo3bo49bo3bo5bo$6b5o
49b5o$8bo53bo2$44b2o$44bo$46bo2$33bo$31b5o$26b2o3bo3bo$27bo2b2obob2o$
25bo5bo3bo$31b5o$33bo5bo10bo$37b5o6b5o$37bo3bo6bo3bo$36b2obob2o4b2obob
2o$37bo3bo6bo3bo$37b5o6b5o$39bo10bo3$38b2o9b2o$39bo10bo$37bo10bo!
the thinnest splitter can be shrunk by over 100 cells horizontally to reduce the repeat time down to 34 (the minimum for pushing tech) at no cost for thinness (the horizontal bit at the very end bumps the repeat time up to 37):

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x = 902, y = 43, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
20bobo$20b3o6$12bo$14bo$13b2o3$14bo$12b5o$12bo3bo$11b2obob2o$12bo3bo
18bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo$12b5o3bobo10b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o$14bo5b3o4bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo
5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo
5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo
5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo
5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo
5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo$25b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o$25bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo$24b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b
5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b
2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob
2o2b5o2b2obob2o2b5o2b2obob2o$25bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo
5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo
5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo
5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo
5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo
3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo5bo5bo3bo$25b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o
11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o11b5o$27bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo
15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo15bo$8bo$o5b5o$2bo3bo
3bo$b2o2b2obob2o$6bo3bo$6b5o$8bo889bo$896b5o$896bo3bo$895b2obob2o$896b
o3bo$896b5o$898bo3$898b2o$899bo$897bo!
dot-duplication salvo:

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x = 9, y = 116, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bo12$3b3o$3bobo$5bo7$5b3o$5bobo6$5b3o$5bobo7$2b3o$2bobo10$5b3o$5bobo$
7bo8$3b3o$3bobo$5bo13$3o$obo5$3o$obo5$3o$obo5$3o$obo5$3o$obo5$3o$obo5$
3o$obo5$3o$obo!
Also slow-salvo construction arms for rs and gliders (to move it in the opposite direction just use the push salvo from the other side. The gliders are spaced out because that's the minimum spacing for an adjustable-period gun to fire):

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x = 499, y = 47, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
29bo$27b5o20b2o16b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o$b2o24bo3b
o2bo17bo17bo16bo16bo16bo16bo16bo16bo16bo16bo$2bo23b2obob2o19b2o16b2o
15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o$3o24bo3bo$27b5o$29bo25$104b3o
$104bo$104b2o3$40bo$38b5o26b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o
15b2o15b2o15b2o16b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o
15b2o15b2o16b2o$38bo3bo13bo11b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo
13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo14b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo
13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo13b2obo14b2obo
$37b2obob2o25b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b
2o16b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o16b
2o$38bo3bo$38b5o$40bo2$81b2o$81bo$81b2o!
Universal construction is now theoretically possible (with 2 arms to get different spacing for the rs).
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 11th, 2018, 1:40 pm

I'm surprised this 8-cell phoenix hasn't occurred out of soup yet:

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bobo$o3bo2$o3bo$bobo!
Extensions:

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x = 28, y = 6, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bobo4bobo6bobo$o3bo2bo3bo4bo3bo3bobo$4bo2bo12bo2bo3bo$o3bo2bo3bo4bo3bo
2bo$bobo4bobo6bobo3bo3bo$24bobo!

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bobo4bobo$o3bo2bo3bo$4bo2bo$o3bo2bo3bo$b3o4b3o3$b3o4b3o$o3bo2bo3bo$4bo
2bo$o3bo2bo3bo$bobo4bobo!

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bobo4bobo4bobo$o3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo$4bo2bo3bo2bo$o3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo$b3o4b3o
4b3o3$b3o4b3o4b3o$o3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo$4bo2bo3bo2bo$o3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo$b3o4b
3o4b3o3$b3o4b3o4b3o$o3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo$4bo2bo3bo2bo$o3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo$bob
o4bobo4bobo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by googleplex » February 11th, 2018, 3:40 pm

anyone up for making a universal construction toolkit?
Look at me! I make patterns in golly and go on the forums! I wanna be Famous!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 11th, 2018, 4:30 pm

googleplex wrote:anyone up for making a universal construction toolkit?
Well It seems that we have many ingredients but I find it difficult to side-shoot gliders (or even an R) which makes it difficult to construct complex salvos where gliders (or Rs) are close to each other.

Anyway I constructed this 'glider inserter', likely not optimal (based on my old splitter technology):

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x = 341, y = 429, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
52$212bo4bo$214bo4bo$213b2o3b2o$293bo$291b5o$210b2o5bo73bo3bo$211bo78b
2obob2o2b2o$209bo81bo3bo3bo$291b5o5bo$293bo$222b2o$219b2obo$219bo4bo$
221bo54$108bo$106b5o$100bo5bo3bo$102bo2b2obob2o143bo$101b2o3bo3bo142b
5o$99bo6b5o142bo3bo$101bo6bo102bo40b2obob2o2b2o$100b2o107b5o39bo3bo3bo
$95bo113bo3bo39b5o5b2o$97bo22bo87b2obob2o7bo32bo7bo$96b2o20b5o86bo3bo
6b5o37b2o34bo$118bo3bo86b5o6bo3bo43bo27bo$117b2obob2o2b2o83bo7b2obob2o
17bo22bo29b2o$95bo4bo17bo3bo3bo93bo3bo16b5o20b2o$97bo20b5o5bo91b5o16bo
3bo$96b2o8b2o6bo5bo90b2o9bo13b2o2b2obob2o49bo$106bo5b5o94bo25bo3bo3bo
17bo4bo25b5o$108bo3bo3bo96bo21bo5b5o20bo27bo3bo$105b2o4b2obob2o104b2o
19bo5bo6b2o8b2o25b2obob2o$89bo15bo6bo3bo105bo24b5o5bo36bo3bo$87bo19bo
4b5o107bo22bo3bo3bo38b5o$87b2o25bo131b2obob2o4b2o37bo5bo$82bo164bo3bo
6bo41b5o5bo$84bo22bo139b5o4bo43bo3bo3bo$83b2o20b5o4b2o133bo49b2obob2o
2b2o$105bo3bo5bobo182bo3bo$104b2obob2o2b3o184b5o$82bo4bo17bo3bo3bo134b
2o12bo39bo5bo4bo$84bo20b5o138bo11b5o41bo4bo$83b2o8b2o6bo5bo139b2o11bo
3bo41b2o3b2o$93bo5b5o133bo21b2obob2o8bo$95bo3bo3bo131b5o10b2o8bo3bo7b
5o$92b2o4b2obob2o130bo3bo5bo4bo9b5o3bo3bo3bo31bo5b2o$92bo6bo3bo130b2ob
ob2o2bo5b2o11bo3b3o2b2obob2o36bo$94bo4b5o131bo3bo3b2o21bo5bo3bo39bo$
101bo133b5o32b5o$222bo14bo11bo11b2o11bo$220b5o22b5o9bo40b2o$101b2o117b
o3bo22bo3bo11bo39bob2o$101bo117b2obob2o20b2obob2o34bo13bo4bo$103bo116b
o3bo22bo3bo33b5o14bo$220b5o22b5o33bo3bo$222bo26bo15bo18b2obob2o10bo$
263b5o17bo3bo9bo4bo$263bo3bo17b5o9b2obo$221b2o39b2obob2o2bo15bo14b2o$
222bo40bo3bo3b3o43bo$220bo42b5o5bo41b5o$265bo20b2o27bo3bo$286bo4bo22b
2obob2o2b2o$285b2o2b3o5bo17bo3bo3bo$289bo25b5o5bo$311bo5bo$293b2o3b2o
9b5o$294bo4bo9bo3bo$292bo4bo10b2obob2o$309bo3bo$309b5o$311bo3$311b2o$
311bo$313bo7$187bo$185b5o$185bo3bo$180b2o2b2obob2o$181bo3bo3bo$179bo5b
5o$187bo92bo$242bo35b5o$244bo33bo3bo$243b2o8b2o22b2obob2o$253bo24bo3bo
$187bo62bo4bo22b5o$185b5o90bo$185bo3bo$180b2o2b2obob2o62b2o$181bo3bo3b
o63bo26b2o$179bo5b5o65bo24bo$187bo5bo55b2o31bo$191b5o53bo$191bo3bo55bo
$190b2obob2o$191bo3bo$191b5o$193bo3$192b2o$193bo$191bo13$77b2o191bo$
77bo190bo$76b2o190b2o3$76bo191bo$74b5o187b5o$74bo3bo187bo3bo$73b2obob
2o185b2obob2o$74bo3bo187bo3bo$74b5o187b5o$76bo191bo5bo$272b5o5bo$272bo
3bo3bo$271b2obob2o2b2o$272bo3bo$272b5o$58bo215bo5bo4bo$56b5o217bo4bo$
56bo3bo217b2o3b2o$51b2o2b2obob2o184bo$52bo3bo3bo161b2o20b5o$50bo5b5o
161bo16b2o3bo3bo31bo5b2o$58bo29bo132b2o17bo2b2obob2o36bo$69bo16b5o147b
o5bo3bo39bo$71bo14bo3bo153b5o$70b2o8b2o3b2obob2o129bo24bo$80bo5bo3bo
128b5o50b2o$58bo18bo4bo3b5o128bo3bo51bob2o$56b5o27bo129b2obob2o34bo13b
o4bo$56bo3bo158bo3bo33b5o14bo$51b2o2b2obob2o18b2o137b5o33bo3bo$52bo3bo
3bo19bo7b2o131bo15bo18b2obob2o10bo$50bo5b5o21bo5bo146b5o17bo3bo9bo4bo$
58bo5bo11b2o12bo144bo3bo17b5o9b2obo$62b5o9bo157b2obob2o2bo15bo14b2o$
62bo3bo11bo156bo3bo3b3o43bo$61b2obob2o167b5o5bo41b5o$62bo3bo170bo20b2o
27bo3bo$62b5o191bo4bo22b2obob2o2b2o$64bo192b2o2b3o5bo17bo3bo3bo$261bo
25b5o5bo$283bo5bo$63b2o200b2o3b2o9b5o$64bo201bo4bo9bo3bo$62bo201bo4bo
10b2obob2o$281bo3bo$281b5o$283bo3$283b2o$283bo$285bo7$159bo$157b5o$
157bo3bo$152b2o2b2obob2o$153bo3bo3bo$151bo5b5o$159bo92bo$214bo35b5o$
216bo33bo3bo$215b2o8b2o22b2obob2o$225bo24bo3bo$159bo62bo4bo22b5o$157b
5o90bo$157bo3bo$152b2o2b2obob2o62b2o$153bo3bo3bo63bo26b2o$151bo5b5o65b
o24bo$159bo5bo55b2o31bo$163b5o53bo$163bo3bo55bo$162b2obob2o$163bo3bo$
163b5o$165bo3$164b2o$165bo$163bo$230b3o$230bobo!
still, we could apply it to build a gun for the diagonal spaceship which using the synthesis:

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x = 141, y = 35, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5$102b2o$103bo$102b2o$87bo$107bo7b2o$66b2o5b2o41bo$51bobo13bo5bo13bo2b
2o23b2o$33b2o16b3o12b2o5b2o15bo$26b2o5bo56b2o15bo12bo$25bob2o4b2o52bo$
26b2o$52bo20bo16bo$9b2o75b2o$10bo17bo56bob2o$9b2o5b2o29b2o25bo11b2o3bo
$15b2obo11bo17bo3bo$16b2o29b2o26bo16bo$54bo3$92bo$91b3o$91bobo$92bo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 12th, 2018, 2:58 am

Meanwhile, this looks new!:

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x = 41, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo8bo15bo8bo$b5o4b5o11b5o4b5o$bo3bo4bo3bo3b2o6bo3bo4bo3bo$2obob2o2b2o
bob2ob2obo4b2obob2o2b2obob2o$bo3bo4bo3bo3b2o6bo3bo4bo3bo$b5o4b5o11b5o
4b5o$3bo8bo15bo8bo!
It uses a dirtier reaction than typical logarithmic patterns in this rule

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 77topaz » February 12th, 2018, 3:13 am

danny wrote:It uses a dirtier reaction than typical logarithmic patterns in this rule
Just to note, that's not O(log(t)) bounding box growth; rather, it's O(sqrt(t)). For O(log(t)), the repeat time has to be multiplied by some factor each iteration, but here the repeat time just increases linearly.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 12th, 2018, 4:53 am

danny wrote: Meanwhile, this looks new!:

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x = 41, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo8bo15bo8bo$b5o4b5o11b5o4b5o$bo3bo4bo3bo3b2o6bo3bo4bo3bo$2obob2o2b2o
bob2ob2obo4b2obob2o2b2obob2o$bo3bo4bo3bo3b2o6bo3bo4bo3bo$b5o4b5o11b5o
4b5o$3bo8bo15bo8bo!
It uses a dirtier reaction than typical logarithmic patterns in this rule
As mentioned it is only sqrt-growth in the bounding box but it can serve for logarithmic structures.
It was also part here:
2718281828 wrote: Some O(n/log(n)) growth:

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x = 23, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2bo$bo$2o19bo$b2o16bo$19b2o$22bo$b2o2bobo3b2o$bo10bo$b2o8b2o$6bo15bo$
5bo13b2o$4b2o13bo$5b2o14bo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 12th, 2018, 5:45 am

Saka wrote:Accidentally found this 9c/10o fuse thing

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x = 7, y = 61, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo4$3bo2$
3bo$b5o$bo3bo$2obob2o$bo3bo$b5o$3bo!
It can be "lighted" very easily

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x = 3, y = 93, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo4$bo33$3o$obo5$3o$ob
o!
Three orthogonal c-fuses:

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x = 238, y = 147, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6$24bo5bo2$27bobobobobo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b
o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2$24bo5bo17$26bo$24bobo$24b3o3$31bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b
o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo3$24b3o$24bobo$26bo17$64bo$65b2o$24bo5bo5bo5bo
5bo5bo5bo5bo3bo$65b2o$62bo$61bobo5b3o4bo8bo$23bo17b2o10b2o4b3ob2o4b3o
3b3o5b4o$27b2o3b2o8bo4b2o5bo4bo3b2o5bo3bo2bo5bo5bo$27b3ob3o6bob2o2b2ob
o2bob2o2b2obob2o4b3o5bo2bob2obobobo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b
o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$27b2o3b2o8bo4b2o5bo4bo3b2o5bo3bo2bo
5bo5bo$23bo17b2o10b2o4b3ob2o4b3o3b3o5b4o$61bobo5b3o4bo8bo$62bo$65b2o$
24bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo3bo$65b2o$64bo11$23b2o$24bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$23b2o32$27b2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$
21b2o5bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b
o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$22bo3bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$21b2o5bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b
o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$27b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o15$
20bo8b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2o$25b3o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b
o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo$22bob4o3bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2o$25b3o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2b
o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo$20bo8b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2o!
And a very simple c-diagonal fuse:

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x = 51, y = 48, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
4$43b2o$44bo$41b2o$42bo$39b2o$40bo$37b2o$38bo$35b2o$36bo$33b2o$34bo$
31b2o$32bo$29b2o$30bo$27b2o$28bo$25b2o$26bo$23b2o$24bo$21b2o$22bo$20bo
2$11b2o$12bo$11b2o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 12th, 2018, 6:14 am

danny wrote: I couldn't get to a rake, but this looks close:

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x = 31, y = 38, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
18bo$15bo5bo$12b2o9b2o$12bobo3bo3bobo$12b3o7b3o$18bo$16b5o$16bo3bo$15b
2obob2o$16bo3bo$16b5o$7bo10bo6bo$4bob3obo11bo5bo$6b3o11bo9bo$6b3o11bo
4bo4bo$7bo12bo9bo$6b3o$5bo3bo13bo3bo$5bo3bo14b3o$4b2obob2o13bobo$5bo3b
o14b3o$5b5o$7bo4$7bo$4bo5bo$bo11bo$2o5bo5b2o$b3o2b3o2b3o$2bo4bo4bo$5b
5o$5bo3bo$4b2obob2o$5bo3bo$5b5o$7bo!
Here we go, an R-back-rake:

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x = 39, y = 46, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
22bo$19bo5bo$17bo9bo$17bo4bo4bo$17bo9bo2$20bo3bo$21b3o$21bobo$21b3o2$
11bo14bo5bo$8bo5bo10bo7bo$5bo11bo5bobo7bo$4b2o5bo5b2o3b5obobob3o$5b3o
2b3o2b3o2bo2bobo3bo3bo$6bo4bo4bo8bo3bo3bo$9b5o12bo2bo2bo$9bo3bo14b3o$
8b2obob2o14bo$9bo3bo$9b5o6bo$11bo3$20bo4$20bo$11bo$8bo5bo17bo$20bo7b3o
bob3o$5bobo3bo3bobo10bo3bo3bo$27b2o2b3o2b2o$28bo3bo3bo$11bo16b3o3b3o$
10b3o19bo$9b5o17b3o$10b3o$11bo2$32bo$32bo!
which allows several other puffers:

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x = 311, y = 111, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2$243bo$148bo142bobo$145bo5bo46bobo39b7o41b3obob3o$141b2o5bo5b2o39b3ob
ob3o36bob3obo40b4o3b4o$140bo6b3o6bo37b4o3b4o35b7o41b3obob3o$144bo7bo
42b3obob3o88bo$84bobobo55bo7bo46bo90b5o$81bob2o3b2obo51bo2b5o2bo43b5o
41bo47bobo$25bo58bo3bo57bo3bo47bobo41b3o46b3o$22bo5bo56bobo57b2obob2o
46b3o42bo48bo$20bo9bo106bo8bo3bo48bo40b2obob2o$19b3o3bo3b3o53bobo58b5o
78bo5bo5bobobo35bo17bo$20bo9bo54b3o47bo3bo8bo6bo32bo17bo21bo7bo4b2ob2o
3b3o26bo5bo10b3obob3o$152bo5bo26bo5bo10b3obob3o17bo7bo6bo31b2o9b2o7bo
3bo3bo$24b3o108bo3bo9b2o9b2o20b2o9b2o7bo3bo3bo16b3obobob3o11b3o23bobo
3bo3bobo4bob2o2b3o2b2o$23b2ob2o47bo17bo55bobo3bo3bobo20bobo3bo3bobo4bo
b2o2b3o2b2o16bo3bo3bo38b3o7b3o2bo4bo3bo3bo$23bo3bo44bo5bo11b2o3b2o52b
3o7b3o20b3o7b3o2bo4bo3bo3bo17bo3bo3bo12bobo29bo13b3o3b3o$23b2ob2o42bo
9bo8b2o2bo2b2o57bo32bo13b3o3b3o18bo2bo2bo14bo28b5o15bo$24b3o42b3o3bo3b
3o4bo2bo2b3o2bo38b3o14b5o28b5o15bo24b3o45bo3bo14b3o$14bo55bo9bo3bo4b2o
5b2o55bo3bo28bo3bo14b3o24bo8bo7b3o26b2obob2o$11bo5bo13bobo56b2o3b2o37b
2o3b2o5bo5b2obob2o26b2obob2o58bo28bo3bo$7b2o5bo5b2o3bo2b3obob3o37b3o
58bo3bo13bo3bo28bo3bo56b2obob2o25b5o6bo$6bo6b3o9bo2b3o3b4o35b2ob2o14b
3o40b5o13b5o28b5o6bo50bo3bo28bo17bo$10bo7bo4bobo2b3obob3o36bo3bo14bobo
42bo17bo32bo17bo34bo6b5o46bo$10bo7bo3bobo7bo40b2ob2o15bo52bo59bo43bo$
9bo2b5o2bo10b5o39b3o7bo5b2o3b2o193bo$12bo3bo14bobo58bobo102bo$11b2obob
2o13b3o207bo$12bo3bo15bo113bo$12b5o6bo60bo205bo$14bo182bo34bo48bo$137b
o8bo41bo41bo3bo6bo36bo5bo17bo$134bob3obo17bo26bo5bo17bo19b2o3b2o40bo9b
o12b2o3b2o$23bo60bo51b3o16bo5bo21bo9bo3bo8b2o3b2o15b4ob4o14b5o20bo4bo
4bo3bo7b2o2bo2b2o$136b3o14bo9bo19bo4bo4bo11b2o2bo2b2o15b2o3b2o14bo5bo
19bo9bo11bo2b3o2bo$74bobo19bo40bo14b3o3bo3b3o18bo9bo11bo2b3o2bo16b5o5b
o57b2o5b2o$71b3obob3o4bo9bo3bo37b3o14bo9bo41b2o5b2o65bo3bo15b2o3b2o$
23bo46b4o3b4o12b2o3b2o35bo3bo46bo3bo15b2o3b2o18b3o17bobobo24b3o$14bo
56b3obob3o12b4ob4o34bo3bo17b3o27b3o41bobo18b3o25bobo18b3o$11bo5bo57bo
17b2o3b2o34b2obob2o15b2ob2o26bobo18b3o42bo26b3o18bobo$8b2o9b2o2bo49b5o
16b5o36bo3bo16bo3bo26b3o18bobo18b2o3b2o66bo$8bobo3bo3bobo12bobobo36bob
o58b5o16b2ob2o48bo20bo3bo15b2obob2o42b2o3b2o$8b3o7b3o9bob2o3b2obo33b3o
18b3o39bo6bo2bo9b3o46b2o3b2o17bo3bo16bo3bo45bobo$14bo18bo3bo37bo19bobo
46b3o61bobo40b5o$12b5o17bobo108bo107bo$12bo3bo76b2o3b2o$11b2obob2o16bo
bo57bo3bo$12bo3bo17b3o57bo3bo$12b5o$14bo$195bo2bo$195b3o$84bo8bo102bo$
82bobo5bo5bo$82b3o215bo$87bobo3bo3bobo56bo50bo$153bo5bo91bo46bo3bo$11b
o21bo117bo9bo42b7o28bo8bo5bo42b3ob3o$8bo5bo8bo6bo5bo56bo57bo4bo4bo42bo
b3obo28bobo2b2o5bo5b2o39bo3bo$4b2o5bo5b2o2bobo2b2o5bo5b2o51b3o56bo9bo
42b7o28b3obo6b3o6bo$3bo6b3o6bob3obo6b3o6bo49b5o151bo7bo33bo$7bo7bo13bo
7bo54b3o59bo3bo88bo7bo44bo$7bo7bo13bo7bo55bo61b3o49bo38bo2b5o2bo30bo$
6bo2b5o2bo11bo2b5o2bo107bo8bobo48b3o40bo3bo46bo$9bo3bo17bo3bo108bo10b
3o49bo40b2obob2o42b2o3b2o$8b2obob2o15b2obob2o107b2o51bo6b2obob2o38bo3b
o44bobobo$9bo3bo17bo3bo159bo9bobobo39b5o44b5o$9b5o17b5o159b2o8b2ob2o
41bo48bo$11bo21bo173bo3$146bo$144bo$144b2o51bo$195bo$195b2o$207bo2$
205bo3bo$146bo$144bo8bobobo27bo19bo3bo$144b2o4bob2o3b2obo21bo5bo11bo$
153bo3bo20b2o5bo5b2o2b2ob2o$154bobo20bo6b3o6bob2o$181bo7bo16b3o$154bob
o24bo7bo$154b3o23bo2b5o2bo13b2o3b2o$183bo3bo17bo3bo$182b2obob2o16b5o$
183bo3bo19bo$183b5o$185bo!
EDIT1:
An R can be front eaten:

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x = 42, y = 71, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3$22bo$19bo5bo$17bo9bo$16b3o3bo3b3o$17bo9bo2$21b3o$20b2ob2o$20bo3bo$
20b2ob2o$21b3o$11bo$8bo5bo13bobo$4b2o5bo5b2o3bo2b3obob3o$3bo6b3o9bo2b
3o3b4o$7bo7bo4bobo2b3obob3o$7bo7bo3bobo7bo$6bo2b5o2bo10b5o$9bo3bo14bob
o$8b2obob2o13b3o$9bo3bo15bo$9b5o6bo$11bo3$20bo4$20bo$11bo$8bo5bo$5b2o
9b2o2bo$5bobo3bo3bobo12bobobo$5b3o7b3o9bob2o3b2obo$11bo18bo3bo$9b5o17b
obo$9bo3bo$8b2obob2o16bobo$9bo3bo17b3o$9b5o$11bo7$19bo$16bo5bo$12b2o5b
o5b2o$11bo6b3o6bo$15bo7bo$15bo7bo$14bo2b5o2bo$17bo3bo$16b2obob2o$17bo
3bo$17b5o$19bo!
Last edited by 2718281828 on February 12th, 2018, 7:41 am, edited 3 times in total.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by Goldtiger997 » February 12th, 2018, 6:53 am

I did quite a bit of searching with ntgfind, but the only thing I found is this glide-symmetric c/3:

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x = 16, y = 8, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
9b6o$5bo2b5obo$3o6bobobobo$8bob3obo$4b3o2bo2b3o$bo6bobo$8b3o$5bo!
I doubt anyone can synthesize it though.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 12th, 2018, 12:46 pm

Goldtiger997 wrote:I doubt anyone can synthesize it though.
It looks like four T's and two dots. Cramped, yes, but nothing is impossible. Good work on finding it!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AbhpzTa » February 12th, 2018, 3:19 pm

p80 xq12_58o9 gun:

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x = 57, y = 58, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
49bo$51bo$50b2o$29bo3bo3$7bo23bo16bo3bo$5bo42bo3bo$5b2o21bo5bo12b2o3b
2o$31bo$27bo7bo$6bo43bo$4b5o40bobo$4bo3bo22bo17b3o$3b2obob2o20b3o17bo$
4bo3bo21bobo$4b5o22bo$6bo2$28b2o3b2o$29bo3bo$29bo3bo$37bo$19bo15b5o$
19b3o13bo3bo$13b2o6bo9b2ob2obob2o2b2o$14bo2b3ob2o9bo2bo3bo3bo$12bo8bo
9b2o2b5o5bo$19b3o15bo6b2o8b2o$19bo34bo$6b3o42bo4bo$6bobo$6bo6bo$5b3o3b
o42b2o$b2o3bo4b2o18bo2bo19bo$2bo27b2o24bo$o30bo18b2o$6bo25bobo15bo$5b
3o44bo$b2o3bo$2bo$o$5b2o$6bo$4bo25bo$32bo$31b2o4$4bo6bo6b2o$6bo12bo20b
2o$5b2o4bo6b2o14bo5bo$42bo2$32b2o3b2o$32bo4bo$34bo4bo!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 12th, 2018, 6:00 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:p80 xq12_58o9 gun:
Fascinating! And just under 200 cells, too! I'm glad there's a gun for this ship, since it does tend to be pretty resilient.

I found an invincible structure, here:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$3o4b3o$o8bo3$o8bo$3o4b3o$2bo4bo$2b2o2b2o!
It cannot be destroyed from the outside without placing cells in unnatural positions.

Other partially invincible, extensible structures with the same concept, except with unstable ends:

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x = 58, y = 40, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o$bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4bo4b
o4bo4bo4bo4bo$2o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o4b2o8$o$3o$2bo
$2b3o$4bo$4b3o$6bo$6b3o$8bo$8b3o$10bo$10b3o$12bo$12b3o$14bo$14b3o$16bo
$16b3o$18bo$18b3o$20bo$20b3o$22bo$22b3o$24bo$24b3o$26bo$26b3o$28bo$28b
2o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by googleplex » February 12th, 2018, 6:43 pm

universal construction would be easier if someone can find a simple pull reaction for the snowflake and the z.

Although, honestly it would be better to find 2-sided salvos, because making a two armed universal constructor would be a lot easier.
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by googleplex » February 12th, 2018, 7:33 pm

Here's a one directional salvo to shoot a glider left:

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x = 27, y = 16, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
9b2o$9bo$9b2o4$o2$o5$24b2o$24bo$24b3o!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by toroidalet » February 12th, 2018, 11:06 pm

googleplex wrote:Here's a one directional salvo to shoot a glider left:
I posted that for the construction arms.
machinery to use the construction arms
firing a glider

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x = 148, y = 151, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
33bo$32bobo$32b3o$33bo13$50bo$52bo$51b2o3$51bo$49b5o$49bo3bo$48b2obob
2o$49bo3bo$49b5o$51bo7$50bobo$50b3o5$57bo$59bo$58b2o3$58bo$56b5o$56bo
3bo$55b2obob2o$56bo3bo$56b5o$58bo38bo$95b5o$64b2o29bo3bo5bo$64bo29b2ob
ob2o2bo$64b2o29bo3bo3b2o$95b5o$97bo6$97bo$39bo55b5o$37b5o46b2o5bo3bo5b
o$37bo3bo5bo39b2obo3b2obob2o2bo$36b2obob2o2bo42b2o5bo3bo3b2o$37bo3bo3b
2o48b5o$37b5o55bo$39bo17bo$55b5o$55bo3bo5bo$54b2obob2o2bo$55bo3bo3b2o$
55b5o$57bo$3bo$b5o$bo3bo59b2o58b2o19b2o$2obob2o58bo59bo20bo$bo3bo59b2o
58b2o19b2o$b5o$3bo$57bo$55b5o$55bo3bo$54b2obob2o2b2o$55bo3bo3bo$55b5o
5bo$57bo3$57b2o$57bo$59bo26$90b3o$90bobo15$50b3o$50bobo11$90b3o$90bobo
!
for firing Rs:

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x = 130, y = 25, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
101bo$99b5o$2o15b2o15b2o15b2o34b2o10bo3bo$bo16bo16bo16bo35bo9b2obob2o
5b2o16b2o$2o15b2o15b2o15b2o34b2o10bo3bo2bo3bo17bo$99b5o6b2o16b2o$101bo
16$70b2o$71bo$70b2o!
this 2-cell push reaction can replace the tedious 1-cell push reaction based on the dot push, but as there are no other odd-push reactions that don't require painful circuitry there needs to be one on the other side just in case:

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x = 108, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
104bo$102b5o$b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o36b2o10bo3bo$ob2o13bob2o13bob2o13bob2o
36bo9b2obob2o$b2o15b2o15b2o15b2o36b2o10bo3bo$102b5o$104bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by KittyTac » February 12th, 2018, 11:20 pm

I'll help you guys once I have time. And this is training for actual GoL engineering! :)

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 13th, 2018, 12:40 am

Apologies if this is known:

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x = 21, y = 26, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
19b2o$20bo$18b3o3$18b2o$17bob2o$18b2o2$15b2o$b2o13bo$ob2o10b3o$b2o2$
14b3o$16bo$15b2o2$18b2o$17bob2o$18b2o3$18b3o$20bo$19b2o!
I couldn't find it in the thread so I assume it's new. It's linear growth except for on the Y-axis, where it is square root growth.
EDIT: 3G linear growth (does this count?):

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x = 16, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
b2o$2bo$3o3$13b2o$12b2obo$13b2o3$3o$2bo$b2o!
EDIT2: 3c/12 puffer:

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x = 14, y = 5, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
4bo5bo2bo$3b3o3b2o$o5bo3bo$11bobo$3bo2bo!
Weird new 3c/12 ship/tagalong/thing:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5bobo$obo$6b2o$bo4b2o$3o3b2o$3bo2$o2bo!
EDIT3: Puffer with a burnable 16c/23 fuse:

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x = 224, y = 14, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
221bo$212bo2bo6bo$211bob5o4b2o$obobo3bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo
2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo
4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo8bo3b2o$215bob2o$
217bo$6bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo
7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo6b5o2b3o$213bobo6bo$214bo6b2o$216b2o$217bo$210b2o4b2o$
211bo$209b3o!
It's not re-burnable, though . :c

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 13th, 2018, 6:35 am

AbhpzTa wrote:p80 xq12_58o9 gun:

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RLE
Very nice. I did some minor optimization concerning the bounding box (replacing the p40 gun by a smaller one - which uses the fast p2 reflector technology):

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x = 49, y = 58, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
41bo$43bo$42b2o$25bo3bo2$42bo$11bo15bo12b5o$9bo30bo3bo$9b2o13bo5bo8b2o
bob2o$27bo12bo3bo$23bo7bo8b5o$10bo31bo$8b5o30bo$8bo3bo14bo12b3o$7b2obo
b2o12b3o10bo2bo$8bo3bo13bobo$8b5o14bo$10bo2$24b2o3b2o$25bo3bo$16bo8bo
3bo5bo$18bo14bo$17b2obo10bob2o$18bo14bo$16bo2bo10bobo2bo$16b3o10b3ob3o
$18bo11bo2bo3bo$18b2o12b2o2b2o8b2o$31bo14bo$43bo4bo2$17bo$10bo4bo30b2o
$5b2o2b3o3b2o10bo2bo15bo$6bo3bo15b2o20bo$4bo22bo14b2o$28bobo11bo$44bo$
5b2o$6bo$4bo$9b2o$10bo$8bo17bo$28bo$27b2o4$o6bo6b2o$2bo12bo20b2o$b2o4b
o6b2o14bo5bo$38bo2$28b2o3b2o$28bo4bo$30bo4bo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 13th, 2018, 12:28 pm

danny wrote:I'm surprised this 8-cell phoenix hasn't occurred out of soup yet:

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bobo$o3bo2$o3bo$bobo!
It appeared in several soups, also a couple of times in C1:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
also extended versions:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 4iz5ar6i7e
that also illustrate nice construction possibilities.


When talking about special oscillators, a nice p20 stator-less oscillator:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
bo5bo2$bo5bo$2bo3bo$obo3bobo$2bo3bo$bo5bo2$bo5bo!

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