The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

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The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Extrementhusiast » May 3rd, 2010, 11:17 pm

As far as I know, the gray cells do not change, they do not influence birth, and they kill all of the eight cells surrounding them, unless the cell in question is also gray. This stuff is fun! Here is a H->G that only uses one gray cell:

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x = 5, y = 6, rule = LifeHistory
F3$.3C$2.C$2.3C!
You can also call them grey cells, it doesn't matter what the spelling is, as long as it's one of the two spellings mentioned.
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by calcyman » May 4th, 2010, 2:19 am

This stuff is fun! Here is a H->G that only uses one gray cell:
You're not meant to use the grey cells! They're designed for demonstrational purposes, so that you can divide a pattern into non-interacting sections. By the way, the original term that Dave Greene coined was killer cell.

His original e-mail to Brice Due (which he later forwarded to me) contained the following mention of the extra LifeHistory states:
Along the same lines as the possible 'start' state for LifeHistory,
something I thought of at random this afternoon was another
easter-egg-type State #7 (6 if we're doing zero-based numbering): a
'killer' OFF state, good for drawing boundaries around subpatterns in
large stamp collections and making sure that none of the subpatterns
accidentally affect each other.

[This was always a problem with Herschel conduits in particular,
because of all the gliders they throw off. If you run a big conduit
stamp collection, you quickly end up with explosions here and there as
the conduit outputs leak into neighboring conduits and make a mess.

But if you add eaters to absorb all the extra gliders, they look just
the same as the eaters you really need as catalysts. So what's the
clearest way to mark the glider absorbers as optional? Could mark
those eaters with your 'start' state, I suppose. Or just show them as
"marked OFF", so the glider goes right through the eater but you can
see where to put one in if you need to... and then draw a killer
boundary around each conduit.

-- Might be worth adjusting gencols output matrices to include
boundary cells, too, to avoid similar interference on envelope-reading
expeditions.]

Guess I'll ask for advice from golly-test on this eventually. But
right now I'm fairly tempted to include the 'start' and 'killer'
states in Golly's official LifeHistory rule -- and then just not use
them for most patterns. If there aren't any state-5 or state-6 cells,
everything will behave just like five-state LifeHistory anyway -- just
as LifeHistory will behave like HistoricalLife if there aren't any
marked cells, even if you're copying and pasting between the two
rules.
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Extrementhusiast » May 4th, 2010, 6:36 pm

I'm sorry, but I didn't know that I wasn't supposed to use them. They're still fun though when you use them in the wrong way! (I think you're being a bit too formal about this, calcyman.)
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by calcyman » May 5th, 2010, 2:23 am

My apologies. But using grey cells as active components within your pattern will ruin its compatibility with ordinary Life.
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Extrementhusiast » May 5th, 2010, 11:47 am

I'm actually fine with that. Should I share more patterns?
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by calcyman » May 5th, 2010, 1:32 pm

Should I share more patterns?
That's completely your decision -- I was merely clarifying the intended purpose of the grey cells, but I suppose that you can use them however you want.
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by David » May 6th, 2010, 8:14 am

Period 6 oscillator!

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = LifeHistory
4.2F$2.AB.F$.ABAB$.3BA$F.BA$2F!
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Extrementhusiast » May 7th, 2010, 12:29 am

Failed Herschel conduit that lasts A REALLY LONG TIME and also produces an LWSS:

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x = 14, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
7.F$4.F9$F3.3C$5.C$5.3C4$13.F!
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Extrementhusiast » May 9th, 2010, 8:42 pm

This is my 200th post! :mrgreen: To celebrate, I'll post all of the conduits that I have so far. (It's much easier to construct conduits with these gray cells)

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x = 959, y = 597, rule = LifeHistory
116.F2$99.D$99.3D$99.D.D$101.D2$109.F5$109.F13.F$113.3C$114.C$109.F4.
3C30$569.F5.F5$574.F6$562.3C$563.C14.F$563.3C8$577.F10$571.3D$573.D$
572.3D21$298.3D$299.D$299.3D8$844.F$279.F5$834.F2$856.F3$821.D$819.D.
D$819.3D$819.D$264.F$845.3C6.F$846.C$846.3C$294.F3$856.F2$272.F4$286.
3C$287.C565.F$287.3C21$618.F7$19.F2$611.3C$605.F6.C$612.3C4$2.D$D.D$
3D$D2$112.3D$113.D$111.3D498.3D$612.D$19.F591.3D2$42.F136.3D$180.D$
180.3D$18.F2$16.F$29.3C6.F$30.C$30.3C$110.F$321.F3$320.3D$321.D$183.F
137.3D3$117.F$115.F2$442.F270.F$26.F673.F$267.3D170.F$176.F91.D437.F$
178.F89.3D46.F132.F2$455.F$459.F$696.F$344.F87.D$331.F98.D.D$430.3D
278.F$430.D$316.F43.D$358.3D$358.D.D$358.D3$324.F2.3C$278.F.F47.C8.F.
F110.3C240.F6.3C6.F$283.F44.3C4.F115.C8.F240.C$284.F166.3C247.3C3$
345.F$262.F71.F$538.F169.F184.F2.F$535.F5$529.F170.3D$276.3C423.D$
277.C8.F414.3D$277.3C623.F16.F$531.F3.3C$536.C$536.3C22.D332.F25.F$
559.3D$531.F27.D.D$559.D$544.F$897.F2$918.F2$907.3C6.F$908.C$908.3C4$
891.F6$897.F3$109.F5$178.F$898.F5$100.F28.F$131.F3$46.F$113.F55.F28.F
703.3D$104.F95.F701.D$901.3D3$36.F145.F$173.F$58.F42.F$121.3C6.F$122.
C$23.D98.3C$21.D.D$21.3D146.F$21.D168.3C6.F$191.C$47.3C6.F134.3C$48.C
$48.3C4$58.F7$55.F16$639.F2$646.F2$651.F$655.F2$628.D$626.D.D$626.3D$
238.F387.D2$243.F$224.D$222.D.D$222.3D$222.D2$646.3C$647.C8.F$647.3C
5$231.3C7.F$232.C$232.3C9$958.F7$949.F6$39.F$25.F$957.F$41.F$24.F$51.
D$51.D.D$51.3D$53.D759.F$811.F$949.F$809.F5$807.F2$31.3C923.F$32.C8.F
$32.3C2$806.3C6.F$807.C$807.3C2$319.F629.F$315.F12.F4$808.3D$318.F
491.D$809.3D$957.F5$316.3C$317.C$317.3C$949.F4$320.3D$320.D$319.3D2$
957.F8$949.F8$957.F$948.3C$949.C$949.3C6$417.F3$641.F$407.F3$652.D$
650.3D$628.F21.D.D$427.F222.D$29.F141.F264.F$399.F$418.F$448.D$405.F
40.3D$446.D.D$47.D398.D$45.3D$45.D.D$45.D588.F2$185.D220.3C$183.3D
101.D119.C8.F$152.F30.D.D99.D.D20.F98.3C215.F$29.F153.D101.3D$285.D2$
176.F$298.F$138.F$174.F$148.3C475.3C$31.3C6.F108.C477.C8.F$32.C116.3C
475.3C$32.3C264.3C6.F$166.F133.C$300.3C$136.F4$137.F7$144.F27$52.3D$
53.D$51.3D13$45.F5$104.3D$44.F18.F41.D$105.3D8$47.F2$41.F3$113.F6$95.
F18.F3$44.3C$45.C8.F$45.3C4$99.F2$93.F12$96.3C$97.C8.F$97.3C!
I tend to use white cells to start off Herschel conduits. Some of the conduits have strange properties. One of them (top middle) is a 180-degree rotational conduit (no flip) that can handle two Herschels at once. Another one is a vertical Herschel flipper that only translates the Herschel vertically (making the rare case of a vertically symmetric Herschel-based multi-barreled gun instead of a rotationally symmetric Herschel-based multi-barreled gun). There is also a Herschel duplicator (pretty obvious, there are two red outlines of Herschels) which has one turned clockwise by 90 degrees and the other simply translated. There are two extensible Herschel conduits: one is at the bottom right, the other one is at the bottom left. The bottom left one transforms the Herschel into an HWSS, which then gets turned back into a Herschel. The bottom right conduit has single gray cells that flip and translate a gliderless Herschel repetitively. The last gray cell in that conduit is used to delete the first block that is naturally formed from a Herschel.
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by mvr » May 10th, 2010, 12:29 am

These grey cells also allow some very peculiar looking oscillators:

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = LifeHistory
3.BA$2.3BA$.BABAB$FBABA$2.AB$2.F!

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = LifeHistory
FBA2BF$.B2AB$2.AB$.2A2B$.BABA$2.BA!

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
5.F$3.3B$.F4B.F$F7B$B5A2B$8B$7B$2.4BF$2.3B$3.F!

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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by calcyman » May 10th, 2010, 10:48 am

The bottom left one transforms the Herschel into an HWSS
How did you find that?! HWSSes are difficult to construct; do you think you can remove the killer cells from that pattern?
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Extrementhusiast » May 10th, 2010, 10:42 pm

Actually, I found that one accidentally! :mrgreen: I was trying to make a Herschel conduit, when I noticed that an HWSS was given out, with some extra debris. Then I simply added a few gray cells to get rid of that debris. Voilá!

Prior to the postings of the other weird oscillators, these were two of the weirdest oscillators that I could find:

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
4.AB$3.BC.A$3.A.CB$.F2.BA$F.B$.A2C$C3.C$2C.2C!

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory
3.F$.AB$.BCA$C.B$2C.F!
The white cells are stator cells (cells that stay on all of the time)


I think many oscillators can and will be formed by surrounding an active pattern with gray cells.
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Lewis » May 11th, 2010, 1:22 pm

This is an 'almost-oscillator' which has only one cell difference. Is there any way the bottom-right cell could be replaced to allow it to actually repeat?

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
2.3F$2.3B$F2BA2BF$FBABABF$FBABABF$F2B2ABF$2.4B$2.3F!
This tiny P2 fits in a 2x3 box (it's probably already known.

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x = 3, y = 2, rule = LifeHistory
F2A$FBA!
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by mvr » May 12th, 2010, 3:13 am

Some more oscillators, all of which contain traffic lights.

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
3.2F$2.4B$.6B$.6B$.B3A2B$FBABA2BF$.B3A2B$2.4B$2.B2F!

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
4.F$2.3B$F4B$.5B$.5BF$.B3A2B$FBABA2B$2.3A2BF$3.3B$2.F!

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
5.F$.F3.2B$2.8BF$2.9B$.6B3A2B$F.5BABA2B$3.4B3A2BF$2.F2.6B$5.F.4B$8.B$
7.F!

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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Extrementhusiast » May 16th, 2010, 7:19 pm

Is anyone maintaining a pattern collection for this rule?
Currently, I am, but only for oscillators and conduits. I will probably expand it.
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by knightlife » May 16th, 2010, 11:53 pm

Here is a 90 degree stable reflector I found:

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x = 43, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
.A$2.A$3A24$27.A$25.A.A$26.2A2$24.2F9.F$21.F14.2F3$42.F$17.F20.2A$29.
F8.2A$28.F.F$41.F$34.F$22.F!
The recovery time is 102 tics, as demonstrated.
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by TLUL » May 22nd, 2010, 3:03 am

Here... have some impossibly close blinkers:

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = lifehistory
F3AF$A3.A$A.F.A$A3.A$F3AF!
You can also chain them together:

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x = 29, y = 5, rule = lifehistory
F3AF3AF3AF3AF3AF3AF3AF$A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A$A.F.A.F.A.F.A.F.A.F.A.F
.A.F.A$A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A$F3AF3AF3AF3AF3AF3AF3AF!
And it produces an interesting result when you destabilise one end:

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x = 29, y = 5, rule = lifehistory
F3AF3AF3AF3AF3AF3AF3A$A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A$A.F.A.F.A.F.A.F.A.F.A.F.
A.F.A$A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A3.A$F3AF3AF3AF3AF3AF3AF3A!
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by knightlife » May 27th, 2010, 5:51 am

This stable 90 degree microreflector fits in a 12 x 15 bounding box:

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x = 22, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
2.A$A.A$.2A6$16.F$14.F$19.F2$21.F$15.A$10.F2.A.A$14.2A4.2A$20.2A3$21.
F3$17.F!
It recovers in 52 tics, ready for another glider as shown.
It is an alien life form but it can be mixed with standard life patterns that don't use grey cells for testing and proof of concept.

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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Jackk » April 1st, 2012, 12:40 pm

I find these cells to be fascinating. A bit of tinkering around found me this:

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x = 9, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory
F7BF$.2B3A2B$2BA3BA2B$.B2AB2AB$F.5B.F!
This moves a house forward at 6c/17.
I also found a 90 degree turner:

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x = 17, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
10.F$F.B.F2.B.3B$4B2.7BF$16B$15BFB$17B$15BFB$16B$4B.11B$F.B.F.F7BF$7.
2B3A2B$6.2BA3BA2B$7.B2AB2AB$6.F.5B.F!
Plus a duplicator:

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x = 17, y = 59, rule = LifeHistory
4.F7BF$5.7B$4.F7BF$5.7B$4.9B$5.7B$4.F7BF$5.7B$4.F7BF$5.7B$4.9B$5.7B$
4.F7BF$5.7B$4.F7BF$5.7B$4.9B$5.7B$4.F7BF$5.7B$4.F7BF$5.7B$4.9B$5.7B$
4.F7BF$5.8B$F.B.F9B$.13B$B2A12B$BABA10B$3BA9BF$BABA9B$B2A9B$.10BF$F.B
.F7B$5.F6B$5.6BF$5.8B$4.F.6BF$5.7B$4.9B$5.7B$4.F7BF$5.7B$4.F.6BF$5.7B
$4.9B$5.7B$4.F7BF$5.7B$4.F.5B.F$5.7B$4.9B$5.7B$4.F7BF$5.7B$4.F.5B.F$
5.7B$4.9B!
And a surprisingly simple Pi => glider:

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x = 9, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
F.5B.F$.B2AB2AB$2BA3BA2B$.2B3A2B$F7BF$.7B$F.5B.F$.7B$9B$8B$7B.F$B3.B$
3.3B$3.B2AB$4.2A!
This uses just a block and 3 killer cells!

With these mechanisms, you can build what I like to call "Pi tracks".
Here's an example:

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x = 131, y = 138, rule = LifeHistory
6$47.3B$46.BFBF2B64.F$46.2BA3BF.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B
.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F2.B.BAB$45.FB3A6B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B2.3B
3ABF$45.2BAB2A63B4A4B$44.B2A66B2A3B2ABFB$43.F3A65B2A5B2A2B$44.B2A66B
2A3B2ABFB$45.B2AB2A63BA3BA3B$44.3B3A6B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.11B
$45.3BA3BF.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.
F7BF$46.6B61.7B$44.F.5B.F59.9B$45.7B61.7B$44.9B59.F.5B.F$45.7B61.7B$
44.F7BF59.F7BF$45.7B61.7B$44.F.5B.F59.9B$45.7B61.7B$44.9B59.F.5B.F$
45.7B61.7B$44.F7BF59.F7BF$45.7B61.7B$44.F.5B.F59.9B$45.7B61.7B$44.9B
59.F.5B.F$45.7B61.7B$44.F7BF59.F7BF$45.7B61.7B$44.F.5B.F59.9B$45.7B
61.7B$44.9B59.F.5B.F$45.7B61.7B$44.F7BF59.F7BF$45.7B61.7B$44.F.5B.F
59.9B$6.3B4.B31.7B61.7B$5.BFBF6BF28.9B59.F.5B.F$5.6B.5B28.7B61.7B$4.F
13BF25.F7BF59.F7BF$4.17B24.7B61.7B$3.17BFB22.F.5B.F59.9B$2.F19B23.7B
61.7B$2.18BFB22.9B59.F7BF$.20B24.7B61.7B$2.19B23.F7BF59.F7BF$2.B.7BF
2B3A2B.B24.7B61.7B$2.11BA3BA3B23.F.5B.F59.9B$2.11B2A3BA3B23.7B61.7B$.
BF16BAB23.9B59.F7BF$.15BA3BF24.7B61.7B$.BF13BA2BA24.F7BF59.F7BF$2.11B
2ABA2B26.7B61.7B$4.F8BA2BABF25.F.5B.F59.9B$6.5B.2BABAB27.7B61.7B$7.F
6BFBFB26.9B59.F7BF$9.B4.3B28.7B61.7B$44.F7BF59.F7BF$45.7B61.7B$44.F.
5B.F59.9B$45.7B61.7B$44.9B59.F7BF$45.7B61.7B$44.F7BF59.F7BF$45.7B61.
7B$44.F.5B.F59.9B$45.7B61.7B$44.9B59.F7BF$45.7B61.8B$44.F7BF.F.B.F.F.
B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F3BA5B$43.11B.5B.5B
.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.6B3A4B$43.3BA3BA63B2AB2A4B$42.BFB2A3B2A66B2A2B$
42.2B2A5B2A65B3AF$42.BFB2A3B2A66B2AB$43.4B4A63B2ABA2B$45.FB3A3B2.5B.
5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.6B3ABF$47.BAB.B2.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.
F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F3BA3B$48.F64.F6B$113.6BF$113.8B$112.F.
6BF$113.7B$112.9B$113.7B$112.F7BF$113.7B$112.F.6BF$113.7B$112.9B$113.
7B$112.F7BF$113.7B$112.F.5B.F$113.7B$112.9B$113.7B$112.F7BF$113.7B$
112.F.5B.F$113.7B$112.9B$113.7B$112.F7BF$113.7B$112.F.5B.F$113.7B$
112.9B$113.7B$112.F7BF$113.7B$112.F.5B.F$113.7B$112.A5BA2B$111.A6BAB$
110.B3A5B.F$109.4B3.B$108.4B3.3B$107.4B4.B2AB$106.4B6.2A$105.4B$104.
4B$103.4B$102.4B$101.4B$99.F4B$99.4B$100.3B!
Thsi is a large version of a p188 glider gun - I know it can be condensed.
If anyone has found any of this before, well, kudos to them.

And could any of these be condensed?

knightlife
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by knightlife » April 1st, 2012, 4:42 pm

The pi to glider component can be done without the block:

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x = 81, y = 120, rule = LifeHistory
5.3B$4.BFBF2B64.F$4.6BF.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F
.F.B.F.F.B.F2.B.3B$3.F10B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B2.7BF$3.77B$2.10B
3A64BFB$.F10B2A67B$2.10B3A64BFB$3.77B$2.12B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.
5B.11B$3.7BF.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.
F.F7BF$4.6B61.7B$2.F.5B.F59.3B3A3B$3.7B61.2B3A2B$2.9B59.F.BABAB.F$3.
7B61.7B$2.F7BF59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F.5B.F59.9B$3.7B61.7B$2.9B59.F.5B.F
$3.7B61.7B$2.F7BF59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F.5B.F59.9B$3.7B61.7B$2.9B59.F.
5B.F$3.7B61.7B$2.F7BF59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F.5B.F59.9B$3.7B61.7B$2.9B
59.F.5B.F$3.7B61.7B$2.F7BF59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F.5B.F59.9B$3.7B61.7B$
2.9B59.F.5B.F$3.7B61.7B$2.F7BF59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F.5B.F59.9B$3.7B61.
7B$2.9B59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F7BF59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F.5B.F59.9B$3.7B
61.7B$2.9B59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F7BF59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F.5B.F59.9B$3.
7B61.7B$2.9B59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F7BF59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F.5B.F59.9B$
3.7B61.7B$2.9B59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F7BF59.F7BF$3.7B61.7B$2.F.BABAB.F
59.9B$3.2B3A2B61.7B$2.3B3A3B59.F7BF$3.7B61.8B$2.F7BF.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.
F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F9B$.11B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.
5B.5B.5B.13B$.80B$BF64B3A11B$67B2A10BF$BF64B3A10B$.77B$3.F7B2.5B.5B.
5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.10BF$5.3B.B2.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F
.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F7B$6.F64.F6B$71.6BF$71.8B$70.F.6BF$71.7B$70.
9B$71.7B$70.F7BF$71.7B$70.F.6BF$71.7B$70.9B$71.7B$70.F7BF$71.7B$70.F.
5B.F$71.7B$70.9B$71.7B$70.F7BF$71.7B$70.F.5B.F$71.7B$70.9B$71.7B$70.F
7BF$71.7B$70.F.5B.F$71.B2AB2AB$70.2BA3BA2B$71.2B3A2B$70.F2B3A2BF$71.
7B$70.F.5B.F$71.7B$70.8B$71.7B$71.7B$71.7B$72.5B$72.F2.B!
However, the conversion is not as quick.

The reverse operation needs a block (or other live pattern for growth):

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x = 74, y = 74, rule = LifeHistory
30.F$29.3B$28.4B$28.6B$27.8B$25.F6B2AB10.B$26.6B2A2B8.3B$25.11B5.F.F
6B$25.11B.F3.2B.7B$25.27B$25.27B$25.27B$26.25B$27.23BF$26.3A2B.7B2.2B
.6B$25.3BA2.F.3B5.F.F6B$24.3BA18.4B$23.4B20.4B$22.4B22.4B$21.4B24.4B$
20.4B26.4B$19.4B28.4B$9.3B6.4B30.4B$8.5BF3.4B32.4B$7.13B34.4B$7.12B
36.4B3.5B.F$7.11B38.3BA.8B$6.11B40.ABA10B$5.11B42.2A12B$6.10B43.14B$
7.F.5B.F43.14BF$8.7B43.F.13B$7.F7BF43.8B2A2B$9.5B44.9B2A2B$9.5B44.12B
$9.6B43.10B$8.F6B44.6B$9.6B44.6BF$6.10B43.6B$4.12B44.5B$3.2B2A9B44.5B
$3.2B2A8B43.F7BF$.13B.F43.7B$F14B43.F.5B.F$.14B43.10B$2.12B2A42.11B$
4.10BABA40.11B$5.8B.A3B38.11B$5.F.5B3.4B36.12B$16.4B34.13B$17.4B32.4B
3.F5B$18.4B30.4B6.3B$19.4B28.4B$20.4B26.4B$21.4B24.4B$22.4B22.4B$23.
4B20.4B$24.4B18.A3B$24.6BF.F5.3B.F2.A3B$24.6B.2B2.7B.2B3A$23.F23B$23.
25B$22.27B$22.27B$22.27B$23.7B.2B3.F.11B$24.6BF.F5.11B$27.3B8.2B2A6B$
28.B10.B2A6BF$39.8B$40.6B$42.4B$42.3B$43.F!
R to G and others:

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x = 144, y = 212, rule = LifeHistory
73.F16.F4$83.F3$85.F6.F7$7.F16.F$70.F3$17.F$67.2A$67.2A$6.3A10.F6.F
50.F$6.A.A53.F$6.A.A4$67.F7$89.F$95.F2$94.2A$93.2A$94.A39$140.F3$59.F
2$4.F76.2A$10.F69.2A60.2A$81.A50.F8.2A$9.2A131.A$8.2A63.F$9.A23$F5$
17.F3$9.2A$8.2A$9.A2$3.F45$4.F7.F$55.F7.F$4.F7.F$6.2A.2A44.F7.F$6.A3.
A46.2A.2A$7.3A47.A3.A$4.F2.3A2.F45.3A$55.F2.3A2.F$4.F7.F$55.F7.F3$4.F
7.F$55.F7.F$15.2F$4.F61.2F$55.F$.F$52.F4$6.F$57.F8$10.F7.F$64.A.A$64.
A.A$46.F6.F10.3A10.F6.F$10.F7.F2$10.F7.F36.F19.F4$10.F7.F29.F16.F16.F
2$10.F7.F!
Single stage converters probably exist for all R, B, C, Pi, etc.
I don't think anyone has found all of them.

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Wojowu
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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Wojowu » April 2nd, 2012, 10:20 am

Smaller Pi to G

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
2F7.F4$.F7.F2$.F7.F$4.3A$3.A3.A$3.2A.2A$.F7.F!
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Jackk
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Joined: March 13th, 2012, 3:49 pm

Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Jackk » April 3rd, 2012, 9:35 am

Using some of the many devices people have made so far, I decided to make a controlable gun. It's propbably not in any way optimal, but it's the most complicated thing I have ever constructed myself:

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x = 490, y = 410, rule = LifeHistory
211.3B64.B125.B$210.BFBF2B60.4BF122.3B$210.6BF.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.
F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F7B5.BF.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F
.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.FBF.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.
B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F3BFBF.2B2F2.3B$209.F10B.5B.5B.A4B.5B.5B.5B.26BF2BF
133B$209.24B2A2BA129BA33B2A19B$208.23BA3B2A63B3A63BABA32B4A17B$207.F
23BABA67B2A66BA30BABA2BA16B$208.23BA3B2A63B3A63BABA31BAB4A14BF3B$209.
24B2A2BA129BA33B4A20B3.B$208.12B.5B.5B.A4B.5B.5B.5B.28BF116BA23B.B2C$
209.7BF.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F7B
F3.F2B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.
F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.FBF.2BFBF3BFBF8B3A8B2C$210.6B
61.7B125.10BA7B.B$208.F.5B.F59.9B125.7B3A7B$209.7B61.7B125.15B$208.9B
59.F.5B.F123.4B.5BA6B$209.7B61.7B123.4B2.3B3A5B$208.F7BF59.F7BF121.4B
3.B3A7B$209.7B61.7B121.4B3.3B2A2B.3B$208.F.5B.F59.9B119.4B3.8B2.F$
209.7B61.7B119.4B3.8B$208.9B59.F.5B.F117.4B3.9B$209.7B61.7B117.4B3.4B
.6B$208.F7BF59.F7BF115.4B3.4B.7B$209.7B61.7B115.4B3.4B2.6B$208.F.5B.F
59.9B113.4B3.4B3.6B$209.7B61.2B3A2B113.4B3.4B4.6B$208.9B59.F.5B.F111.
4B3.4B4.8B$209.7B61.2ABAB2A111.4B3.4B6.8B$208.F7BF59.FBA3BABF109.4B3.
4B6.9B$209.7B61.2BABA2B109.4B3.4B7.9B$208.F.5B.F59.3BABA3B107.4B3.4B
8.10B$209.7B61.BA3BAB107.4B3.4B9.5B2A3B$208.9B59.F.5B.F105.4B3.4B10.
5B2A4B$209.7B61.7B105.4B3.4B11.11B$208.F7BF59.F7BF103.4B3.4B12.12BA.
2A$209.7B61.7B103.4B3.4B15.8B2.2A.A$208.F.5B.F59.9B101.4B2.5B16.7B$
170.3B4.B31.7B61.7B101.4B3.4B17.5B$169.BFBF6BF28.9B59.F.5B.F99.2A2B3.
4B18.5B$169.6B.5B28.7B61.7B99.2B2A3.4B18.6B$168.F13BF25.F7BF59.F7BF
97.2BAB3.4B19.7B2.4B$168.4BA12B24.7B61.7B97.4B3.4B19.F7BF6BF$167.4B2A
5BA5BFB22.F.5B.F59.9B95.4B3.4B21.14B$166.F3BA9BA5B23.7B61.7B95.4B3.4B
21.F14B$166.5B2A3BA3BA3BFB22.9B59.F7BF93.4B3.4B23.15B$165.7BA12B24.7B
61.7B93.4B3.4B23.16B$166.11B2A6B23.F7BF59.F7BF91.4B3.4B25.15B$166.B.
7BF7B.B24.7B61.7B91.4B3.4B25.F14B$166.19B23.F.5B.F59.9B89.4B3.4B27.9B
.3B$166.20B23.BA3BAB61.7B89.4B3.4B27.F7BF$165.BF18B23.3BABA3B59.F7BF
87.4B3.4B27.10B$165.19BF24.2BABA2B61.7B87.4B3.4B29.9B$165.BF17B24.FBA
3BABF59.F7BF85.4B3.4B31.7B$166.17B26.2ABAB2A61.7B85.4B3.4B31.F7BF$
168.F13BF25.F.5B.F59.9B83.4B3.4B33.7B$170.5B.6B27.2B3A2B61.7B83.4B3.
4B33.F7BF$171.F6BFBFB26.9B59.F7BF81.4B3.4B35.7B$173.B4.3B28.7B61.7B
81.4B3.4B35.9B$208.F7BF59.F7BF79.4B3.BA2B37.7B$209.7B61.7B79.4B3.2A2B
37.F7BF$208.F.5B.F59.9B77.4B3.2B2A39.7B$209.7B61.7B77.4B3.4B39.F7BF$
208.9B59.F7BF75.4B3.4B41.7B$209.7B61.7B75.4B3.4B41.9B$208.F7BF59.F7BF
73.4B3.4B43.7B$209.7B61.7B46.F2B2A2BF19.4B3.4B43.F3BA3BF$208.F.5B.F
59.9B45.3B2A2B19.4B3.4B45.2B3A2B$209.7B61.7B46.8B.F15.4B3.4B45.FB5ABF
$208.9B59.F7BF43.12B14.4B3.4B47.BA3BAB$209.7B61.8B42.F13B12.4B3.4B47.
2A5B2A$208.F7BF.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F
.F.B.F9B38.3B.13BF10.4B3.4B49.BA3BA2B$207.11B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.4BA.
5B.5B.13B37.5B.11B11.4B3.4B49.FBA3BABF$207.48BA2B2A27B37.5B.8B2.F9.4B
3.4B50.8B$206.BF48B2A3BA24B40.13B10.4B3.4B52.F6B$206.53BABA23BF41.8B.
4B8.4B3.4B53.6BF64.F$206.BF48B2A3BA23B43.7B2.4B6.4B3.4B54.7BF.B.F.F.B
.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F2.B.3B$207.48BA2B2A
24B45.5B.F2.4B4.4B3.4B55.F10B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B2.7BF$209.F7B
2.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.4BA.5B.5B.10BF45.4B6.4B2.4B3.4B56.33B2A42B$211.3B
.B2.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F7B45.
4B7.8B3.4B56.33BABA41BFB$212.F64.F6B44.4B9.6B3.4B56.F32B2A45B$277.6BF
43.4B11.4B3.4B57.34BABA41BFB$277.8B41.4B11.6B.4B57.36B2A42B$276.F7BF
40.4B11.11B59.13B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.11B$276.8B40.4B11.4B2.5B
60.9BF.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F7BF
$276.9B38.4B11.4B4.5B60.8B61.7B$277.7B38.4B11.2A2B6.4B60.F7BF59.9B$
276.F7BF36.4B11.2B2A8.4B12.B47.7B61.7B$277.7B36.4B11.2BAB10.4B10.3B
45.9B59.F.5B.F$276.F7BF34.4B11.4B12.4B9.3B46.7B61.7B$277.7B34.4B11.4B
14.4B7.4B45.F7BF59.F7BF$276.9B32.4B11.4B16.4B5.4B.F45.7B61.7B$277.7B
32.4B11.4B18.4B3.4B.3B43.F7BF59.9B$276.F7BF30.4B11.4B20.9B.6B42.7B61.
7B$277.7B30.4B11.4B22.15BF40.9B59.F.5B.F$276.F2BABA2BF28.4B11.4B24.
15B41.7B61.7B$277.2B3A2B28.4B11.4B26.16B38.F7BF59.F7BF$276.3B3A3B26.
4B11.4B29.10B2A2B39.7B61.7B$277.7B26.4B11.4B31.9B2A2B38.F7BF59.9B$
276.F7BF24.4B11.4B31.F2.11B39.7B61.7B$277.7B24.4B11.4B34.11B39.9B59.F
.5B.F$276.F.5B.F22.4B11.4B34.9B.F41.7B61.7B$277.7B22.4B11.4B34.3AB.4B
43.F7BF59.F7BF$276.9B20.4B11.4B34.3BA2.4BF43.7B61.7B$276.10B18.4B11.
4B34.3BA2.F.2B44.F7BF59.9B$276.F7BF18.4B11.4B34.4B5.F46.7B61.7B$277.
7B18.4B11.4B34.4B52.9B59.F.5B.F$276.F.5B.F16.4B11.4B34.4B54.7B61.7B$
277.7B16.4B11.4B34.4B54.F7BF59.F3BA3BF$276.9B14.4B11.4B34.4B56.7B61.
2B3A2B$277.7B14.4B11.4B34.4B56.F7BF59.2BA3BA2B$276.F7BF12.4B11.B2DB
34.4B58.7B61.B2AB2AB$276.8B12.4B11.2B2D34.4B58.9B59.F.5B.F$276.F7BF
10.4B11.4B34.4B60.7B61.7B$277.7B10.4B11.4B34.4B60.F7BF59.F7BF$276.9B
8.4B11.4B21.B12.4B62.7B61.7B$271.2B4.7B8.4B11.4B21.3B10.4B62.F.5B.F
59.9B$270.5B2F7BF3B3.4B11.4B22.3B9.4B64.B2AB2AB61.7B$270.24B11.4B23.
4B7.4B64.2BA3BA2B59.F.5B.F$269.24B11.4B23.F.4B5.4B66.2B3A2B61.7B$269.
23B11.4B23.3B.4B3.4B66.F3BA3BF59.F7BF$270.21B11.4B22.6B.9B68.7B61.7B$
269.23B9.4B22.F15B68.F.5B.F59.9B$270.21B9.4B5.3D15.15B70.7B61.7B$271.
19B9.4B5.D3.D12.16B70.9B59.F.5B.F$275.B.10B11.4B5.D2.D.D12.2B2A10B73.
7B61.7B$278.8B11.4B6.D.2D2.D11.2B2A9B73.F7BF59.F7BF$279.6B11.4B7.D.D.
D.D11.11B2.F73.7B61.7B$279.5B11.4B8.D5.D12.11B74.F.5B.F59.9B$279.6B9.
4B10.5D14.F.9B74.7B61.7B$278.8B7.4B33.4B.4B72.9B59.F.5B.F$277.4B.5B6.
4B32.F4B2.4B72.7B61.7B$276.4B4.4B2.F.5B34.2B.F2.4B70.F7BF59.F7BF$275.
4B6.4B2.BA5B34.F5.4B70.7B61.7B$274.4B8.4B.AB2A4B40.4B68.F.5B.F59.9B$
273.4B10.4BA3BA4B39.5B35.3B30.7B61.7B$272.4B9.F2.4BA3B.5B39.4B32.7B
27.9B59.F.5B.F$271.4B11.7BA3B.5B39.4B30.10B26.7B61.7B$270.4B10.F2BA6B
A3B.3B41.4B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F3.12B23.F7BF59.F7BF$269.4B12.B3A
9BF45.28B3.14B23.7B61.7B$268.4B14.AB3A7B43.B2.4BA3BA36BF21.F.5B.F59.
9B$267.4B15.F.B2A6B43.2AB.3BA4BA36BF22.7B61.7B$266.4B19.BA6B43.2A6B2A
39B22.9B59.F.5B.F$265.4B19.F2BA3BF45.2B.3BA4BA38B21.7B61.6B$264.4B21.
BA3B50.4BA3BA23B4.11BF.B.F.F.B.F.F.A.F3.F7BF.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.
F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F7B$263.4B23.A3B50.28B10.13B.5B.3BA
4BF28B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.12B$262.4B77.BF2B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F
9.21B2AB2A44B2A33B$261.4B116.21B2A48BABA33B$260.4B117.20B3A50B2A32BF$
259.4B119.20B2A48BABA33B$258.4B119.F21B2AB2A44B2A33B$257.4B121.7B.5B.
5B.3BA3BF2BF26B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.5B.10BF$256.4B121.7BF2.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.A
.FB5.7BF.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F.F.B.F6B$
255.4B123.5B28.F4B60.2BFBFB$254.4B125.3B31.B64.3B$253.4B127.B.F$252.
4B$251.4B$250.4B$249.4B$248.4B$247.4B$246.4B$245.4B$244.4B$243.4B$
242.4B$241.4B$240.4B$239.4B$238.4B$237.4B$236.4B$235.4B$234.4B$233.4B
$232.4B$231.4B$230.4B$229.4B$228.4B$227.4B$226.4B$225.4B$224.4B$223.
4B$222.4B$221.4B$220.4B$219.4B$218.4B$217.4B$216.4B$215.4B$214.4B$
213.4B$212.4B$211.4B$210.4B$209.4B$208.4B$207.4B$206.4B$205.4B$204.4B
$203.4B$202.4B$201.4B$200.4B$199.4B$198.4B$197.4B$196.4B$195.4B$194.
4B$193.4B$192.4B$191.4B$190.4B$189.4B$188.4B$187.4B$186.4B$185.4B$
184.4B$183.4B$182.4B$181.4B$180.4B$179.4B$178.4B$177.4B$176.4B$175.4B
$174.4B$173.4B$172.4B$171.4B$170.4B$169.4B$168.4B$167.4B$166.4B$165.
4B$164.4B$163.4B$162.4B$161.4B$160.4B$159.4B$158.4B$157.4B$156.4B$
155.4B$154.4B$153.4B$152.4B$151.4B$150.4B$149.4B$148.4B$147.4B$146.4B
$145.4B$144.4B$143.4B$142.4B$141.4B$140.4B$139.4B$138.4B$137.4B$136.
4B$135.4B$134.4B$133.4B$132.4B$131.4B$130.4B$129.4B$128.4B$127.4B$
126.4B$125.4B$124.4B$123.4B$122.4B$121.4B$120.4B$119.4B$118.4B$117.4B
$116.4B$115.4B$114.4B$113.4B$112.4B$111.4B$110.4B$109.4B$108.4B$107.
4B$106.4B$105.4B$104.4B$103.4B$102.4B$101.4B$100.4B$99.4B$98.4B$97.4B
$96.4B$95.4B$94.4B$93.4B$92.4B$91.4B$90.4B$89.4B$88.4B$87.4B$86.4B$
85.4B$84.4B$83.4B$82.4B$81.4B$80.4B$79.4B$78.4B$77.4B$76.4B$75.4B$74.
4B$73.4B$72.4B$71.4B$70.4B$69.4B$68.4B$67.4B$66.4B$65.4B$64.4B$63.4B$
62.4B$61.4B$60.4B$59.4B$58.4B$57.4B$56.4B$55.4B$54.4B$53.4B$52.4B$51.
4B$50.4B$49.4B$48.4B$47.4B$46.4B$45.4B$44.4B$43.4B$42.4B$41.4B$40.4B$
39.4B$38.4B$37.4B$36.4B$35.4B$34.4B$33.4B$32.4B$31.4B$30.4B$29.4B$28.
4B$27.4B$26.4B$25.4B$24.4B$23.4B$22.4B$21.4B$20.4B$19.4B$18.4B$17.4B$
16.4B$15.4B$14.4B$13.4B$12.4B$11.4B$10.4B$9.4B$8.4B$7.4B$6.4B$5.4B$4.
4B$3.4B$2.4B$5B$4B$.2B$F!
The main part is in the top-right corner. This is a reaction between a glider and a pi which results in nothing. However, if you remove one glider, the pi creates a block. The next glider is destroyed if the block is there, so the pi creates another block.
But, if you remove another glider, the next pi destroys the block instead.

With me so far? :)

Next, I had to find a way to non-destructively test for the block and coax out a glider. I used this reaction:

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x = 8, y = 4, rule = LifeHistory
2A3.A$2A3.3A$5.A.A$7.A!
If there is a block, the Herschel disappears. However, without the block, the Herschel emits a glider before being destroyed.

The rest of the machinery - nearer the middle - is used simply to get the glider stream out of the pattern.
(It also inverts the output, but that doesn't make much difference.)

To try it out, simply let the pattern run for a bit, then insert a block in marked ON state where the red block is. The pattern should start emitting gliders. Repeat, and the pattern shouuld stop.

Of course, you would normally trigger the reaction with an input glider, shown in red as well.

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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by knightlife » April 7th, 2012, 2:12 pm

G -> B and B -> G combine to make reflector,
B -> 2G can be used to make splitter:

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x = 42, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
35.F3$F29.F$3.D29.D$2.3D27.3D$2.D.2D26.D.2D3$11.F29.F3$F9.2A18.F9.2A$
10.2A28.2A3$11.F29.F$3A27.3A$2.A6.F22.A6.F$.A2.F26.A2.F!
Modified splitters used to make guns:

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x = 90, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
7.F2.2A2.F$10.2A$16.F5$17.F4$2F8.F2$66.F2.2A2.F$69.2A$75.F4$77.F$16.A
4.F8.F50.F$14.A.A48.F$15.2A2$14.F54.F$33.F39.F7.A7.F$79.A.A$80.2A2$
15.F59.F$20.2A58.2A$17.F2.2A2.F52.F2.2A2.F!
The gun on the right is p128 but can be stretched to any period 128+8n, n=1,2,3...
The gun on the left can have multiple gliders in the loop to reduce the period of the gun.
Last edited by knightlife on April 7th, 2012, 3:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by knightlife » April 7th, 2012, 3:13 pm

Stable 90 degree reflector with different timing and a stable shifter:

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x = 79, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
12.B$B10.3B$2B9.3B28.F$3B7.4B$4B5.4B.F57.F$.4B3.4B.3B$2.9B.6B$3.15BF
29.F29.F$4.15B$5.16B$7.10B2A2B16.F9.2A18.F9.2A$8.9B2A2B26.2A28.2A$7.F
2.11B$9.11B$8.9B.F29.F29.F$7.3AB.4B21.3A27.3A$6.3BA2.4BF22.A6.F22.A6.
F$5.3BA2.F.2B23.A2.F26.A2.F$4.4B5.F$3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B$3B$2B$B!
Demo of 22 tic delay on same track using two shifters:

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x = 33, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
19.F2.2A2.F$22.2A$17.F4$29.F$16.F3$13.F$23.F2$19.F3$8.F9.2A$18.2A3$
19.F2$17.F$12.F5$.2A28.2A$A.A27.A.A$2.A29.A!

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Re: The "Gray Cells" in LifeHistory Rule

Post by Tropylium » April 8th, 2012, 9:44 am

Is this not the exact same type of "special" cells as the death-forcer "black holes" in EE's ExtendedLife rule, or is there some difference?

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