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Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: November 25th, 2020, 10:35 pm
by HelicopterCat3
Hunting wrote: ↑November 25th, 2020, 9:50 pm
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑November 25th, 2020, 12:44 pm
bubblegum wrote: ↑November 25th, 2020, 12:54 am
This is temporal symmetry, or glide symmetry.
I don't think it's glide symmetry because it doesn't move. It is definitely a sort of temporal symmetry though.
Since when did glide symmetry include movement? Think about time-space diagram, it is glide symmetry along the time axis.
Yeah the P4 is glide symmetrical. While spaceships with similar altering symmetries are also called glide symmetric, it applies to oscillators as well
Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: November 26th, 2020, 4:32 am
by Hunting
Smaller c/3:
Code: Select all
x = 9, y = 21, rule = B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
6bo$7bo2$5b2o$2b2obo$3b2o$o$bo$bo2bo$3b2o$4b3o$4bo$7bo$b2o2b2o2$
2bobo$2bo2bob2o$2b3obo$3bobo2bo$5bobo$6b2o!
Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: November 26th, 2020, 3:01 pm
by HelicopterCat3
Would this be considered aa life-like rule? Because it has B3/S23 with some different laws added and subtracted and it has some still lives from Life...
Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: November 26th, 2020, 3:19 pm
by bubblegum
HelicopterCat3 wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:01 pm
Would this be considered aa life-like rule? Because it has B3/S23 with some different laws added and subtracted and it has some still lives from Life...
No, because it's an INT rule.
Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: November 26th, 2020, 3:20 pm
by HelicopterCat3
bubblegum wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:19 pm
HelicopterCat3 wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:01 pm
Would this be considered aa life-like rule? Because it has B3/S23 with some different laws added and subtracted and it has some still lives from Life...
No, because it's an INT rule.
What's that?
Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: November 26th, 2020, 3:23 pm
by bubblegum
HelicopterCat3 wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:20 pm
bubblegum wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:19 pm
HelicopterCat3 wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:01 pm
Would this be considered aa life-like rule? Because it has B3/S23 with some different laws added and subtracted and it has some still lives from Life...
No, because it's an INT rule.
What's that?
Isotropic Non-Totalistic (the rules with the letters mixed in).
Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: November 26th, 2020, 3:24 pm
by HelicopterCat3
bubblegum wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:23 pm
HelicopterCat3 wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:20 pm
bubblegum wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:19 pm
No, because it's an INT rule.
What's that?
Isotropic Non-Totalistic (the rules with the letters mixed in).
Oh well yeah, but there are plenty of Non-Totalistic Rules that are considered Life-Like
Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: November 26th, 2020, 3:29 pm
by bubblegum
HelicopterCat3 wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:24 pm
bubblegum wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:23 pm
Isotropic Non-Totalistic (the rules with the letters mixed in).
Oh well yeah, but there are plenty of Non-Totalistic Rules that are considered Life-Like
Yes, but the definition of "Life-like cellular automaton" is an outer-totalistic rule like B2/S (Seeds) or B1/S1 (Gnarl) or B3/S12345 (Maze), for some reason. This would specifically be an isotropic non-totalistic Life-like cellular automaton, which includes B3/S2-i34q (tlife), even though it is much more Life-like than one of the OT rules provided above.
Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: November 26th, 2020, 3:39 pm
by HelicopterCat3
bubblegum wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:29 pm
HelicopterCat3 wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:24 pm
bubblegum wrote: ↑November 26th, 2020, 3:23 pm
Isotropic Non-Totalistic (the rules with the letters mixed in).
Oh well yeah, but there are plenty of Non-Totalistic Rules that are considered Life-Like
Yes, but the definition of "Life-like cellular automaton" is an outer-totalistic rule like B2/S (Seeds) or B1/S1 (Gnarl) or B3/S12345 (Maze), for some reason. This would specifically be an isotropic non-totalistic Life-like cellular automaton, which includes B3/S2-i34q (tlife), even though it is much more Life-like than one of the OT rules provided above.
Yeah. I was just asking to help myself with naming the rule
Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: November 27th, 2020, 12:01 am
by Hunting
TBH This rule is not really Life-like even in the "common sense".
I always classify interesting non-explosive INT rules into: B2e3i rules, B2ce rules, B3ai rules and B2c3a rules (very uncommon). They exhibits very different dynamics. Most Life-like rules are B3ai. And this one is B2e3i. B2e3i is very dominated with c/2o ships.
Re: B2e3-cjk/S2-in3-r4c8
Posted: December 1st, 2020, 12:53 pm
by HelicopterCat3
Hunting wrote: ↑November 27th, 2020, 12:01 am
TBH This rule is not really Life-like even in the "common sense".
I always classify interesting non-explosive INT rules into: B2e3i rules, B2ce rules, B3ai rules and B2c3a rules (very uncommon). They exhibits very different dynamics. Most Life-like rules are B3ai. And this one is B2e3i. B2e3i is very dominated with c/2o ships.
It is B3ai, but it's not lifelike. It may have a couple still lives from Life, but it's spaceships and reaction are way different. I would really count a lifelike as having B3aij