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Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 12:40 am
by Yoel
This rule was inspired by Brian Prentice's Mites. It has a very minimalistic ruletable with literally 3 lines that enable diagonal photons moving at the speed of light.

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@RULE Diaphotons

# Inspired by Brian Prentice's rule Mites

# Copyright by Yoel Matveyev, 2022
# The GNU General Public License v3.0

@COLORS

0 0 0 0
1 0 255 0
2 255 255 0

@TABLE

n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:rotate4reflect
var a={0,1,2}
var b=a
var c=a
var d=a
var e=a
var f=a
var g=a
var h=a

0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
0,1,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,2

2,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0
1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0
It behaves somewhat similar to Brian's Brain. One of the common features is the natural 4-barrel p4 gun:

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = Diaphotons
$3.BA$4.B$3.BA2$2.AB$2.B$2.AB!
It tends to produce many rakes that interact in complex ways, sieving, reflecting and modifying the photons, Often enough an MMM breeder appears.

Some ships:

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x = 219, y = 212, rule = Diaphotons
35$193.BA$194.B3$192.BA5.BA$95.BA96.B7.A$96.B105.A$97.BA96.AB2.A2.B$
98.B96.B7.A$203.B$195.B3.B$101.BA92.AB.BA$102.B2$191.B7.B$191.AB5.BA$
97.BA$99.A$99.B87.B12.A$187.AB11.B3$183.B$183.AB3$179.B$179.AB$46.BA$
47.B$48.A126.B$48.B126.AB3$171.B$171.AB3$167.B$167.AB3$163.B$163.AB2$
100.BA$102.A56.B$25.BA76.A55.AB$27.B2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB
2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB3.B$25.B4.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B
3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B3.B.B$98.ABA54.B$155.AB2$94.B5.B$94.AB
3.BA50.B$151.AB2$90.B9.B$90.AB7.BA46.B$147.AB2$86.B13.B$86.AB11.BA42.
B$143.AB2$82.B17.B$82.AB15.BA38.B$139.AB2$78.B21.B$78.AB19.BA34.B$
135.AB2$74.B25.B$74.AB23.BA30.B$131.AB2$70.B29.B24.BA$70.AB27.BA25.2B
$125.B2AB2$66.B33.B$66.AB31.BA3$62.B37.B$62.AB35.BA3$58.B41.B$58.AB
39.BA3$54.B45.B$54.AB43.BA3$50.B49.B$50.AB47.BA3$46.B53.B$46.AB51.BA
3$42.B57.B$42.AB55.BA3$38.B61.B$38.AB59.BA3$34.B65.B$30.BA2.AB63.BA3$
100.B$99.BA$99.ABA$99.B.B!
Questions: are oscillators, orthogonal spaceships and ships slower than C possible in this rule?

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 12:43 am
by Ohhhhhhhhh
Interesting topic……

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 12:02 pm
by Moosey
There seems to be quite a lot of reactions leading to signals like this:

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x = 82, y = 74, rule = Diaphotons
17.AB5.BA$17.B7.B2$17.B$17.A3.A$21.B2$13.B7.B$13.AB5.BA3$9.B15.B$9.AB
13.BA3$5.B23.B$5.AB21.BA$AB$B$33.B$32.BA$4.AB$4.B$35.B.B$35.ABA$8.AB
21.BA$8.B23.B$41.B$40.BA$12.AB13.BA$12.B15.B$45.B$44.BA$16.AB5.BA$16.
B7.B$49.B$24.B23.BA$20.A3.A$20.B$53.B$20.B7.B23.BA$20.AB5.BA2$57.B$
16.B15.B23.BA$16.AB13.BA2$61.B$12.B23.B23.BA$12.AB21.BA2$65.B$40.B23.
BA$39.BA2$69.B$44.B23.BA$43.BA2$63.BA8.B$48.B15.B7.BA$47.BA2$77.B$52.
B23.BA$51.BA2$81.B$56.B23.BA$55.BA3$60.B$59.BA!

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 12:20 pm
by hotdogPi
A diagonal line of five green cells becomes the ruler sequence.

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 3:02 pm
by wwei47
P2 photon:

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x = 3, y = 5, rule = Diaphotons
BA$.B2$2.A$2.B!

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 5:17 pm
by Yoel
hotdogPi wrote:
April 25th, 2022, 12:20 pm
A diagonal line of five green cells becomes the ruler sequence.
Here is a cleaner seed:

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = Diaphotons
$9.AB$6.AB$6.B$13.B$13.A$3.B2.A$3.A3.A4.B$4.A3.A2.BA$5.A$6.A$7.AB!
wwei47 wrote:
April 25th, 2022, 3:02 pm
P2 photon:

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x = 3, y = 5, rule = Diaphotons
BA$.B2$2.A$2.B!
A bigger one:

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x = 26, y = 33, rule = Diaphotons
6$11.BA5.BA$12.B7.A$21.A$14.AB2.A2.B$14.B7.A$22.B$14.B3.B$14.AB.BA2$
8.BA$9.2B7.B$8.B2AB5.BA3$19.A$19.B!

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 6:07 pm
by bprentice
Yoel,

Nice rule!

Consider adding a still life block using a 4th state as a photon stream stopper. I think this will address Moosey's comment and allow the separation of interesting interactions.

Brian Prentice

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 7:39 pm
by Period1GliderGun
4c/4d 1-barreled photon rake:

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = Diaphotons
3.BA$4.B2$BA3.A$.B.B.B$BA!
More coming soon.

EDIT: 8c/8 version:

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x = 15, y = 22, rule = Diaphotons
3.BA$4.B2$BA3.A$.B.B.B$BA8.BA$13.BA$10.B3.B2$2.B6.ABA$9.B.B4$.B6$.B$B
A!

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 9:10 pm
by Yoel
bprentice wrote:
April 25th, 2022, 6:07 pm
Yoel,

Nice rule!

Consider adding a still life block using a 4th state as a photon stream stopper. I think this will address Moosey's comment and allow the separation of interesting interactions.

Brian Prentice
I am already experimenting with combinations of this rule with FireWorld and its varieties. It has a 4th state as a block. However, i wonder how far we can go without this feature.

EDIT:

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x = 97, y = 58, rule = FireWorld+
15$79.14C$79.BA.BA.BA.BA.B2$76.FD12.D.E$77.F$87.F$73.FD12.DF$74.F$84.
F$70.FD12.DF$71.F$81.F$67.FD12.DF$68.F$78.F$64.FD12.DF$65.F$75.F$61.F
D12.DF$58.E3.F$72.F$9.C14.AC16.CA15.D12.DF$8.A.BA.BA.BA.BA.B.CB15.ACB
A.BA.BA.BA.BA.B.E$7.ABCBA.BA.BA.BA.BA2.A.BA.BA.BA.BA.B2.BA.BA.BA.BA.B
A.B10.F$8.BCA13.19C26.DF$8.C16.C4.AB4.AB4.AB21.CA$42.C5.AB4.AB4.AB3.C
A$41.C6.AB4.AB4.AB4.AF$65.C!

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 10:38 pm
by bprentice
Yoel wrote:
April 25th, 2022, 9:10 pm
However, i wonder how far we can go without this feature.
Good point!

Brian Prentice

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 25th, 2022, 11:55 pm
by Yoel
bprentice wrote:
April 25th, 2022, 10:38 pm
Yoel wrote:
April 25th, 2022, 9:10 pm
However, i wonder how far we can go without this feature.
Good point!

Brian Prentice
My FireWorld/Diaphotons hybrid resembles your Mites to some degree. Red dots are from the original Fireworld (03ajkr/2ak/3); blue dots are wire cells. If a diaphoton touches 2 or 3 wire cells, it turns into an electron (a red cell running on the wire's surface). White dots are for converting photons to diaphotons,

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x = 132, y = 104, rule = FireWorld+
30$75.A3.A$118.A2$84.DF29.FD$43.ACB33.DF3.F31.F$16.B.AB4.AB.AB.AB4.AB
.AB.ABC34.F$14.A.B.AB4.AB.AB.AB4.AB.AB.AB$44.C3.DF$48.F3$52.DF38.DF
13.FD$52.F34.DF3.F15.F$87.F2$56.DF$56.F2.E3$56.E2.2A39.D$59.2B34.DF.E
$95.F4.B2$59.2A34.F3.2B$59.2B34.DF2$99.2A7.F$59.2A38.2B6.FD$59.2B2$
99.2A$58.CA2C25.F11.2B$58.C.BA25.DF$58.C$81.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2ABA2.A
$61.DF13.FD3.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2.AB2ABA12.F.A$61.F15.F2$99.2B$65.DF5.FD
25.2A$65.F7.F2$73.F25.2B$69.D3.D22.FD.2A$69.F27.F2$69.F7.F22.A$69.DF
5.FD3$65.F15.F$65.DF13.FD6.FD$89.F2$61.F$62.F24.E$60.A24.2C!
The ruletable is kind of long.

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@RULE FireWorld+

# A fancy combination of FireWorld rule with the Diaphotons rule

# Partially inspired by Brian Prentice's rule Mites

# FireWorld is the next generation of Fireworld (03ajkr/2ak/3), proven to be capable 
# in itself of universal computation and suitable for constructing logic circuits.

# This new generation of Fireworld is a hybrid rule combining 03ajkr7/2ak/3 and
# a Wireworld-like wiring system. It is fully backward compatible with Fireworld.

# Wires are implemented as the fourth, immutable state. The new rules are as follows:

# 1. A cell is born, if surrounded by 1 living (state 1) cell and 2 or 3 wire cells (state 3).
# 2. A cell is born, if surrounded by 1 orthogonal and 1 diagonal neighboring living cell and 2 or 3 wire cells.

# The last rule mirrors the "2ak" behavior of Fireworld and helps to ignite electrons on wires by free photons.

# Diaphotons is a simple rule that allows spaceships to travel diagonally at the maximum "speed of light"

# This combination rule allows to convert diaphotons to photons and electrons and vice versa.

# Diaphotons have their own 2 states. Another extra state converts photons to diaphtons.

# As long as these extra states are not used, the rule is 100% backward compatible with FireWorld.

# Copyright by Yoel Matveyev, 2022
# The GNU General Public License v3.0

@COLORS

0 0 0 0
1 255 0 0
2 255 255 0
3 0 0 255
4 0 255 0
5 255 255 255
6 0 255 255

@TABLE

n_states:7
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:rotate4reflect
var a={0,1,2,3,4,5,6}
var b=a
var c=a
var d=a
var e=a
var f=a
var g=a
var h=a

var i={0,2,6}
var j=i
var k=i
var l=i
var m=i
var n=i
var o=i
var p=i

# The original Fireworld augmented with S7

0,1,1,i,j,k,l,m,n,1
0,1,i,j,1,k,l,m,n,1
1,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,1
1,1,1,1,i,j,k,l,m,1
1,1,i,1,1,j,k,l,m,1
1,1,1,i,j,1,k,l,m,1
1,1,i,1,j,k,1,l,m,1
1,1,i,1,j,k,l,m,1,1
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,i,1
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,i,1,1

var a2={0,2}
var b2=a2
var c2=a2
var d2=a2
var e2=a2
var f2=a2
var g2=a2
var h2=a2

0,a2,4,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,4
0,4,b2,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,6
0,4,6,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,6

# A computer-generated list of all possible living cells and wire cells positions

0,i,j,1,l,m,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,n,1,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,1,n,3,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,1,n,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,n,1,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,n,o,1,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,n,1,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,n,o,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,1,o,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,n,1,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,k,l,1,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,1,n,3,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,1,3,p,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,1,o,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,3,1,p,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,n,1,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,k,l,m,3,1,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,m,3,3,1,1

0,3,j,3,l,3,n,1,p,1
0,i,3,k,3,m,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,1,3,m,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,1,l,3,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,1,l,3,n,3,3,1
0,i,j,1,l,m,3,3,3,1
0,i,j,3,1,3,n,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,1,m,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,1,n,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,3,n,1,p,1
0,i,j,3,3,3,n,o,1,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,1,3,p,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,1,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,3,1,p,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,n,1,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,3,l,1,3,3,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,1,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,1,n,3,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,1,3,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,1,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,3,1,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,n,1,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,3,1,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,3,3,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,n,1,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,1,3,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,3,1,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,3,3,1,1
0,i,j,k,l,1,3,3,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,1,3,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,3,1,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,3,3,1,1

0,i,j,1,3,m,1,o,3,1
0,i,j,1,3,m,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,1,l,3,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,1,l,3,1,o,3,1
0,i,j,1,l,3,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,1,l,m,3,3,1,1
0,i,j,1,1,m,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,1,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,3,l,1,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,3,l,1,1,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,n,1,1,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,1,1,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,3,1,1,1
0,i,j,3,1,3,n,1,p,1
0,i,j,3,1,m,3,1,p,1
0,i,j,3,1,m,n,1,3,1
0,i,j,3,1,1,n,3,p,1
0,i,j,3,1,1,n,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,1,1,p,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,n,1,1,1
0,i,j,3,3,1,n,o,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,3,1,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,1,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,1,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,1,1,o,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,n,1,1,1
0,i,j,k,l,1,3,3,1,1
0,i,j,k,l,1,1,3,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,1,1,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,3,1,1,1

0,3,1,3,l,3,n,1,p,1
0,3,1,1,l,3,n,3,p,1
0,i,3,1,3,m,3,o,1,1
0,i,3,1,l,3,n,3,1,1
0,i,3,1,l,3,1,o,3,1
0,i,3,1,1,m,3,o,3,1
0,i,3,3,l,1,3,o,1,1
0,i,3,3,l,1,n,3,1,1
0,i,3,3,l,1,1,o,3,1
0,i,3,3,l,3,n,1,1,1
0,i,j,1,3,m,1,3,3,1
0,i,j,1,3,m,3,3,1,1
0,i,j,1,3,3,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,1,3,3,1,o,3,1
0,i,j,1,3,3,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,1,l,3,1,3,3,1
0,i,j,1,l,3,3,3,1,1
0,i,j,1,1,3,n,3,3,1
0,i,j,1,1,3,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,1,1,m,3,3,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,1,3,3,1,1
0,i,j,3,l,1,1,3,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,1,1,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,3,1,1,1
0,i,j,3,1,3,n,1,3,1
0,i,j,3,1,3,3,1,p,1
0,i,j,3,1,m,3,1,3,1
0,i,j,3,1,1,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,1,1,n,3,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,1,1,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,3,1,1,1
0,i,j,3,3,1,3,o,1,1
0,i,j,3,3,1,n,3,1,1
0,i,j,3,3,1,1,3,p,1
0,i,j,3,3,1,1,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,3,n,1,1,1
0,i,j,3,3,3,1,1,p,1
0,i,j,k,3,1,3,3,1,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,1,1,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,3,1,1,1

# When touching a wire, a diagonal photons becomes an electron

0,i,j,4,l,m,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,n,4,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,4,n,3,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,4,n,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,n,4,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,n,o,4,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,3,o,4,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,n,4,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,n,3,4,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,n,o,4,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,4,o,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,3,o,4,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,n,4,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,n,3,4,1
0,i,j,k,l,4,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,4,n,3,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,4,3,p,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,4,o,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,3,4,p,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,3,o,4,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,n,4,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,n,3,4,1
0,i,j,k,l,m,3,4,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,m,3,3,4,1

0,3,j,3,l,3,n,4,p,1
0,i,3,k,3,m,3,o,4,1
0,i,j,4,3,m,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,4,l,3,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,4,l,3,n,3,3,1
0,i,j,4,l,m,3,3,3,1
0,i,j,3,4,3,n,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,4,m,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,4,n,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,3,n,4,p,1
0,i,j,3,3,3,n,o,4,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,4,3,p,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,4,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,3,4,p,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,3,o,4,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,n,4,3,1
0,i,j,3,3,m,n,3,4,1
0,i,j,3,l,4,3,3,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,4,3,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,4,n,3,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,4,3,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,4,o,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,3,4,p,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,3,o,4,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,n,4,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,3,n,3,4,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,3,4,3,1
0,i,j,3,l,m,3,3,4,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,3,o,4,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,n,4,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,3,n,3,4,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,4,3,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,3,4,3,1
0,i,j,k,3,m,3,3,4,1
0,i,j,k,l,4,3,3,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,4,3,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,3,4,3,1
0,i,j,k,l,3,3,3,4,1

# A red cell becomes green upon touching a trigger cell

0,5,1,k,l,m,n,o,p,4
0,1,5,k,l,m,n,o,p,4
0,5,j,1,l,m,n,o,p,4
0,i,1,k,5,m,n,o,p,4
0,1,j,k,5,m,n,o,p,4
0,5,j,k,1,m,n,o,p,4
0,5,j,k,l,1,n,o,p,4
0,i,5,k,l,m,1,o,p,4

# Cleaning up, making sure the wires are immutable

1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,2
2,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0
3,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,3
4,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0
5,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,5
6,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,0

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 26th, 2022, 10:53 am
by bprentice
Yoel,

A combination of Wire World and Generations rules was explored here:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3576&start=25#p65840

and a similar combination performing on a hexagonal grid was explored here:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3576&start=50#p66399

Brian Prentice

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: April 26th, 2022, 12:41 pm
by Yoel
bprentice wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 10:53 am
Yoel,

A combination of Wire World and Generations rules was explored here:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3576&start=25#p65840

and a similar combination performing on a hexagonal grid was explored here:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3576&start=50#p66399

Brian Prentice
Strictly speaking, WireWorld is Generations, just restrained inside wires. So it is a very natural combination, although I personally prefer SW style of signals running on top of things.

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: May 7th, 2022, 4:29 pm
by Yoel
A ship infinitely extendable in two dimensions:

Code: Select all

x = 193, y = 152, rule = Diaphotons
17$143.BA$139.BA4.A$140.B5.BA$141.AB5.A$141.B.B5.BA$141.AB2AB5.A$144.
B.B5.BA$144.AB2AB5.A$137.B9.B.B5.BA$137.AB8.AB2AB5.A$140.B9.B.B5.BA$
140.AB8.AB2AB5.A$133.B9.B9.B.B5.BA$133.AB8.AB8.AB2AB5.A$136.B9.B9.B.B
5.BA$136.AB8.AB8.AB2AB5.A$129.B9.B9.B9.B.B5.BA$129.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB2AB
5.A$132.B9.B9.B9.B.B5.BA$132.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB2AB5.A$125.B9.B9.B9.B9.B.B
5.A$125.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB2AB3.B$128.B9.B9.B9.B9.B.B$128.AB8.AB8.AB8.
AB8.ABA$121.B9.B9.B9.B9.B9.BA$121.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB9.B$124.B9.B9.B9.
B9.B$124.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$117.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$117.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$
120.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$120.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$113.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$113.AB8.AB
8.AB8.AB8.AB$116.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$116.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$109.B9.B9.B9.B
9.B$109.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$112.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$112.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$
105.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$105.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$108.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$108.AB8.AB
8.AB8.AB8.AB$101.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$101.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$104.B9.B9.B9.B
9.B$104.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$97.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$97.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$
100.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$100.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$93.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$93.AB8.AB8.
AB8.AB8.AB$96.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$96.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$89.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$
89.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$92.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$92.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$85.B9.B
9.B9.B9.B$85.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$88.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$88.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.A
B$81.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$81.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$84.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$84.AB8.AB8.
AB8.AB8.AB$77.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$77.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$80.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$
80.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$73.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$73.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$76.B9.B
9.B9.B9.B$76.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$69.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$69.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.A
B$72.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$72.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$65.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$65.AB8.AB8.
AB8.AB8.AB$68.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$68.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$61.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$
61.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$64.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$64.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$57.B9.B
9.B9.B9.B$57.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$60.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$60.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.A
B$53.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$53.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB8.AB$56.B9.B9.B9.B9.B$56.AB8.AB8.
AB8.AB8.AB$47.BA4.A2.ABA4.A2.ABA4.A2.ABA4.A2.ABA4.A2.ABA$48.B4.B2.B.B
4.B2.B.B4.B2.B.B4.B2.B.B4.B2.B.B!

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: May 30th, 2022, 12:02 am
by HotWheels9232
What in the world is happening?

Code: Select all

x = 22, y = 22, rule = Diaphotons
21.A$20.A$19.A$18.A$17.A$16.A$15.A$14.A$13.A$12.A$11.A$10.A$9.A$8.A$
7.A$6.A$5.A$4.A$3.A$2.A$.A$A!

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: May 30th, 2022, 12:04 am
by LaundryPizza03
HotWheels9232 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:02 am
What in the world is happening?

Code: Select all

x = 22, y = 22, rule = Diaphotons
21.A$20.A$19.A$18.A$17.A$16.A$15.A$14.A$13.A$12.A$11.A$10.A$9.A$8.A$
7.A$6.A$5.A$4.A$3.A$2.A$.A$A!
Classic reverse Sierpinski generator. This is a failed replicator that replicates cleanly, but produces outgoing spacehips as it does so.

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: May 30th, 2022, 12:09 am
by HotWheels9232
LaundryPizza03 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:04 am
HotWheels9232 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:02 am
What in the world is happening?

Code: Select all

x = 22, y = 22, rule = Diaphotons
21.A$20.A$19.A$18.A$17.A$16.A$15.A$14.A$13.A$12.A$11.A$10.A$9.A$8.A$
7.A$6.A$5.A$4.A$3.A$2.A$.A$A!
Classic reverse Sierpinski generator. This is a failed replicator that replicates cleanly, but produces outgoing spacehips as it does so.
I don't think it continues as sierpinski. Run it to gen 5600

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: May 30th, 2022, 12:18 am
by LaundryPizza03
HotWheels9232 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:09 am
LaundryPizza03 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:04 am
HotWheels9232 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:02 am
What in the world is happening?

Code: Select all

x = 22, y = 22, rule = Diaphotons
21.A$20.A$19.A$18.A$17.A$16.A$15.A$14.A$13.A$12.A$11.A$10.A$9.A$8.A$
7.A$6.A$5.A$4.A$3.A$2.A$.A$A!
Classic reverse Sierpinski generator. This is a failed replicator that replicates cleanly, but produces outgoing spacehips as it does so.
I don't think it continues as sierpinski. Run it to gen 5600
I can't. What did you get?

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: May 30th, 2022, 12:25 am
by HotWheels9232
LaundryPizza03 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:18 am
HotWheels9232 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:09 am
LaundryPizza03 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:04 am


Classic reverse Sierpinski generator. This is a failed replicator that replicates cleanly, but produces outgoing spacehips as it does so.
I don't think it continues as sierpinski. Run it to gen 5600
I can't. What did you get?

Code: Select all

x = 1273, y = 1069, rule = Diaphotons
841.BA260.BA$842.B261.B$1085.BA$844.BA240.B13.BA$845.B257.BA$1100.B3.
B$841.BA242.BA$842.B231.BA10.B$1075.B27.BA$1076.BA26.B$1077.B$844.BA
246.BA2.BA2.BA$845.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$
1104.B2$1100.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B3$170.AB931.BA$170.B933.B2$1084.BA2.
BA2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$
1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$1074.BA
10.B$1075.B27.BA$153.AB921.BA26.B$153.B923.B$844.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$
845.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B2$1100.BA$
1103.BA$1100.B3.B3$202.AB899.BA$187.AB13.B901.B$186.A$186.B897.BA2.BA
2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$
1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$1074.BA
10.B$1075.B27.BA$185.AB889.BA26.B$185.B891.B$844.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$
845.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B2$1100.BA$
1103.BA$1100.B3.B3$234.AB867.BA$219.AB13.B869.B$218.A$218.B865.BA2.BA
2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$
1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$1074.BA
10.B$1075.B27.BA$217.AB857.BA26.B$217.B859.B$844.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$
845.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B2$1100.BA$
1103.BA$1100.B3.B3$266.AB835.BA$251.AB13.B837.B$250.A$250.B833.BA2.BA
2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$
1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$1074.BA
10.B$1075.B27.BA$249.AB825.BA26.B$249.B827.B$844.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$
845.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B2$1100.BA$
1103.BA$1100.B3.B3$298.AB803.BA$283.AB13.B805.B$282.A$282.B801.BA2.BA
2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$
1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$1074.BA
10.B$1075.B27.BA$281.AB793.BA26.B$281.B795.B$844.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$
845.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B2$1100.BA$
1103.BA$1100.B3.B3$330.AB771.BA$315.AB13.B773.B$314.A$314.B769.BA2.BA
2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$
1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$1074.BA
10.B$1075.B27.BA$313.AB761.BA26.B$313.B763.B$343.AB499.BA246.BA2.BA2.
BA$343.B501.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B2$
1100.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$332.AB$332.B$362.AB739.BA$347.AB13.B741.B$
346.A$346.B737.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.
A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B
3.B$1085.BA$371.AB701.BA10.B$371.B703.B27.BA$345.AB729.BA26.B$345.B
731.B$375.AB467.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$375.B469.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$
1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$360.AB$360.B739.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$
364.AB$364.B$394.AB707.BA$379.AB13.B709.B$378.A$378.B705.BA2.BA2.BA2.
BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$1103.BA$
1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$403.AB669.BA10.B
$403.B671.B27.BA$377.AB697.BA26.B$377.B699.B$407.AB435.BA246.BA2.BA2.
BA$407.B437.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$
392.AB$392.B707.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$396.AB$396.B$426.AB675.BA$411.AB
13.B677.B$410.A$410.B673.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.
B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.
BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$435.AB637.BA10.B$435.B639.B27.BA$409.AB665.BA26.
B$409.B667.B$439.AB403.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$439.B405.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B
3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$424.AB$424.B675.BA$1103.BA$1100.B
3.B$428.AB$428.B$458.AB643.BA$443.AB13.B645.B$442.A$442.B641.BA2.BA2.
BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$
1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$467.AB
605.BA10.B$467.B607.B27.BA$441.AB633.BA26.B$441.B635.B$471.AB371.BA
246.BA2.BA2.BA$471.B373.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.
BA$1104.B$456.AB$456.B643.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$460.AB$460.B$490.AB
611.BA$475.AB13.B613.B$474.A$474.B609.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B
3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$
1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$499.AB573.BA10.B$499.B575.B27.B
A$473.AB601.BA26.B$473.B603.B$503.AB339.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$503.B341.B
247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$488.AB$488.B
611.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$492.AB$492.B$522.AB579.BA$507.AB13.B581.B$
506.A$506.B577.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.
A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B
3.B$1085.BA$531.AB541.BA10.B$531.B543.B27.BA$505.AB569.BA26.B$505.B
571.B$535.AB307.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$535.B309.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$
1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$520.AB$520.B579.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$
524.AB$524.B$554.AB547.BA$539.AB13.B549.B$538.A$538.B545.BA2.BA2.BA2.
BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$1103.BA$
1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$563.AB509.BA10.B
$563.B511.B27.BA$537.AB537.BA26.B$537.B539.B$567.AB275.BA246.BA2.BA2.
BA$567.B277.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$
552.AB$552.B547.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$556.AB$556.B$586.AB515.BA$571.AB
13.B517.B$570.A$570.B513.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.
B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.
BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$595.AB477.BA10.B$595.B479.B27.BA$569.AB505.BA26.
B$569.B507.B$599.AB243.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$599.B245.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B
3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$584.AB$584.B515.BA$1103.BA$1100.B
3.B$588.AB$588.B$618.AB483.BA$603.AB13.B485.B$602.A$602.B481.BA2.BA2.
BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$
1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$627.AB
445.BA10.B$627.B447.B27.BA$601.AB473.BA26.B$601.B475.B$631.AB211.BA
246.BA2.BA2.BA$631.B213.B247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.
BA$1104.B$616.AB$616.B483.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$620.AB$620.B$650.AB
451.BA$635.AB13.B453.B$634.A$634.B449.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B
3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.A7.A$1084.B.B5.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$1085.BA$
1086.B13.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$1085.BA$659.AB413.BA10.B$659.B415.B27.B
A$633.AB441.BA26.B$633.B443.B$663.AB179.BA246.BA2.BA2.BA$663.B181.B
247.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1094.A$1092.B.B$1103.BA$1104.B$648.AB$648.B
451.BA$1103.BA$1100.B3.B$652.AB$652.B$682.AB419.BA$667.AB13.B421.B$
666.A$666.B417.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA2.BA$1085.B3.B3.B3.B5.BA$1100.B3.B$1086.
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Slice of it. Why can't you simulate it in golly?

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: May 30th, 2022, 6:46 am
by dvgrn
HotWheels9232 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:25 am
LaundryPizza03 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:18 am
HotWheels9232 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:09 am
I don't think it continues as sierpinski. Run it to gen 5600
I can't. What did you get?
...
Slice of it. Why can't you simulate it in golly?
@HotWheels9332, that slice isn't part of a descendant of the original pattern you posted. Something got added or subtracted along the diagonal at some point. Once the original pattern is damaged, you can get all kinds of interesting non-Sierpinski interactions and effects.

On a separate topic: have you noticed what a huge number of complaints and post reports your recent posts have accumulated? Your one-line necroposts are really making a mess and causing a lot of trouble. Please go back through via Quick links -> View your posts, review people's reports, and make a really serious effort to follow the forum rules more carefully.

If more similar posts keep showing up, my next step will be a one-day ban, just to try to get your attention.

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: May 31st, 2022, 3:44 pm
by HotWheels9232
dvgrn wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 6:46 am
HotWheels9232 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:25 am
LaundryPizza03 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:18 am


I can't. What did you get?
...
Slice of it. Why can't you simulate it in golly?
@HotWheels9332, that slice isn't part of a descendant of the original pattern you posted. Something got added or subtracted along the diagonal at some point. Once the original pattern is damaged, you can get all kinds of interesting non-Sierpinski interactions and effects.

On a separate topic: have you noticed what a huge number of complaints and post reports your recent posts have accumulated? Your one-line necroposts are really making a mess and causing a lot of trouble. Please go back through via Quick links -> View your posts, review people's reports, and make a really serious effort to follow the forum rules more carefully.

If more similar posts keep showing up, my next step will be a one-day ban, just to try to get your attention.
Thanks! I put it on move. Maybe golly is damaged? Also, what changed when I made the green diagonals longer? It wasn't sierpinski at the start. Is this the kind of post you don't want?

Edit 1: I can't see any reports

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: May 31st, 2022, 6:29 pm
by Yoel
LaundryPizza03 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:18 am
HotWheels9232 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:09 am
LaundryPizza03 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:04 am


Classic reverse Sierpinski generator. This is a failed replicator that replicates cleanly, but produces outgoing spacehips as it does so.
I don't think it continues as sierpinski. Run it to gen 5600
I can't. What did you get?
You get wild chaos surrounded by a frame of failed Sierpinski triangles. It looks like this after 50000 gens, scale 128:1. I see no point in posting random parts of this mess.

Image

This produces a spacefiller made of chunks of failed Sierpinski triangles:

Code: Select all

x = 22, y = 24, rule = Diaphotons
3$19.A$18.A$17.A$16.A$15.A$14.A$13.A$12.A$11.A$10.A$9.A$8.A$7.A$6.A$
5.A!

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: May 31st, 2022, 7:16 pm
by LLAMASKYWALKER
Yoel wrote:
May 31st, 2022, 6:29 pm
LaundryPizza03 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:18 am
HotWheels9232 wrote:
May 30th, 2022, 12:09 am


I don't think it continues as sierpinski. Run it to gen 5600
I can't. What did you get?
You get wild chaos surrounded by a frame of failed Sierpinski triangles. It looks like this after 50000 gens, scale 128:1. I see no point in posting random parts of this mess.

Image

This produces a spacefiller made of chunks of failed Sierpinski triangles:

Code: Select all

x = 22, y = 24, rule = Diaphotons
3$19.A$18.A$17.A$16.A$15.A$14.A$13.A$12.A$11.A$10.A$9.A$8.A$7.A$6.A$
5.A!
it breaks because at around gen 4300 a pair of diaphotons appear in the middle

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: June 6th, 2022, 5:34 am
by dl-rs
reaction?

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x = 24, y = 22, rule = Diaphotons
B21.B3$4.AB11.BA$4.B13.B3$8.AB3.BA$8.B5.B$8.AB$17.AB$9.BA6.B$4.B5.B$4.
AB3.BA$21.AB$21.B$4.A9.B$4.B8.BA3$18.B$17.BA!
EDIT: reduced.

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x = 3, y = 7, rule = Diaphotons
AB$B$AB2$.BA$2.B$.BA!

Re: Diaphotons

Posted: June 6th, 2022, 2:21 pm
by breaker's glider gun
dl-rs wrote:
June 6th, 2022, 5:34 am
reaction?

Code: Select all

x = 24, y = 22, rule = Diaphotons
B21.B3$4.AB11.BA$4.B13.B3$8.AB3.BA$8.B5.B$8.AB$17.AB$9.BA6.B$4.B5.B$4.
AB3.BA$21.AB$21.B$4.A9.B$4.B8.BA3$18.B$17.BA!
EDIT: reduced.

Code: Select all

x = 3, y = 7, rule = Diaphotons
AB$B$AB2$.BA$2.B$.BA!
that was LITERALLY THE FIRST PATTERN ON THE FIRST POST