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Hdjensofjfnen
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by Hdjensofjfnen » October 3rd, 2019, 1:49 am
toroidalet wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2019, 11:49 pm
176
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x = 14, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.2E$2A6.E2.A$EDE.2ED.E.EDE$2.E.E.E.E.E.E$.2E.E.E.E.EDEA$E3.E.E.E.A.E
$3EA.E2.E.A.E$3.A4.A.EDEA$2A.A5.A$A.A!
I am pretty sure the above is minimal.
One above minimal (177):
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x = 16, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.2E$2A6.E$EDE.2ED.E.2ED$2.E.E.E.E.E.E$.2E.E.E.E.EDE$E3.E.E.E.A.E.2A$
3EA.E2.E.A.E2.A$3.A4.A.EDEA$2A.A5.A$A.A!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" Stephen Crane
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2i3y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

Entity Valkyrie 2
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by Entity Valkyrie 2 » October 3rd, 2019, 8:53 pm
Stabilize this:
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x = 71, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$2bobo23bo$3bo23b2o15b2o$26b2o16b2o$27b2o2b2o$2o11b3o$2o9bo3bo$10b
o4bo$10bo3bo12b2o2b2o$26b2o16b2o$10bo3bo12b2o15b2o$10bo4bo12bo$2o9bo3b
o$2o11b3o38bo$52bo3bo$30b5o22bo$3bo30bo17bo4bo$2bobo24bo5bo17b5o$3b2o
25bob2o4$49b3o3bo$47b5o2bobo12b2o$42bo3b2o3b2o3bo12b2o$37bo3bo4b3o3bo
2bo$22b2o12bo8bob2o3b3o$22b2o12bo2b2o5bo$37b2o5bo2b2o3b3o$38b3o3b5o3bo
2bo$46b2o3b2o3bo12b2o$38b3o3b8o2bobo12b2o$37b2o5bo2bob3o3bo$22b2o12bo
2b2o5bo$22b2o12bo8b2o$37bo3bo$42bo!
#C [[ THEME CATERER ZOOM 7 AUTOSTART GPS 46 LOOP 46 ]]
The ENEERGy of the EVAD is watching.
The 70th NAIve guy is watching
Noone can trust Entity Valkyrie, except Dean Hickerson.
I will paste all the LifeWiki stuff in several RLEs, and never use LifeWiki again.

BlinkerSpawn
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by BlinkerSpawn » October 3rd, 2019, 9:48 pm
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2019, 1:49 am
I am pretty sure the above is minimal.
One above minimal (177):
I believe the minimum is 174 (5/14), you're almost there.

testitemqlstudop
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by testitemqlstudop » October 3rd, 2019, 11:28 pm
175?
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x = 14, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
7.2E$2A6.E2.A$EDE.2ED.E.EDE$2.E.E.E.E.E.E$.2E.E.E.E.EDEA$E3.E.E.E.A.E
$3E2.E2.E.A.E$3.2A3.A.EDEA$2.A6.A$3.A$2.2A!
Aha! 174!
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x = 14, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.2E$2A6.E2.A$EDE.2ED.E.EDE$2.E.E.E.E.E.E$.2E.E.E.E.EDEA$E3.E.E.E.A.E
$3EA.E2.E.A.E$4.A3.A.EDEA$2.A6.A$2.2A!

Hdjensofjfnen
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by Hdjensofjfnen » October 3rd, 2019, 11:32 pm
Didn't find a reduction, but I found an alternate 176:
Code: Select all
x = 14, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
7.2E$2A6.E2.A$EDE.2ED.E.EDE$2.E.E.E.E.E.E$.2E.E.E.E.EDEA$E3.E.E.E.A.E
$3E2.E2.E.A.E$3.2A3.A.EDEA$2.A6.A$3.A.A$4.2A!
EDIT: Nice work, testitem! I knew it was somewhere in that region. Your turn to post a new one.
Last edited by
Hdjensofjfnen on October 3rd, 2019, 11:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" Stephen Crane
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2i3y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

testitemqlstudop
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by testitemqlstudop » October 3rd, 2019, 11:33 pm
New:
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x = 5, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory
.4A$4.A$2A$3.A$.3A!
Minimal?
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x = 5, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory
.4A$4.A$2A$3.A$.3A!
How about this random fill?
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x = 14, y = 4, rule = LifeHistory
A2.A.A5.A$A.2A2.2A3.A$2.A.2A.2A.A2.A$A.A4.2A2.2A!

Hdjensofjfnen
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by Hdjensofjfnen » October 3rd, 2019, 11:41 pm
Another casualty of not hitting the Sync button.
EDIT: Here's an xs solution. There's probably some xq integrations out there with x66, but I'm lazy.
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x = 6, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A$4.2A2$2.4E$.A3.E$.2E$4.E$.A3E$A$A.A$.2A!
EDIT: For the fill, 143 is my starting bid (two still lifes):
Code: Select all
x = 15, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
2.A$.A.A$.E2.E.E5.D$AE.2E.A2E3.EA$.A.E.2D.DE.E2.E$.E.E4.2E.A2E$2.A$8.
4A$8.A2.A!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" Stephen Crane
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2i3y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

testitemqlstudop
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by testitemqlstudop » October 4th, 2019, 4:25 am
138 with only three OFFs:
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x = 19, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
8.2E4.2E$8.E4.E2.E$10.E2.3E$9.2E$E.EA.EA.A4.EAE$2E.A.AD2.2A2.ED.E$3.E
.A.2A.DA.A2.A$3.A.A.E2.2A2.2A$4.E3.2E2.2E$9.E2.E2.3E$8.E5.2E2.E$8.2E
7.2E!
Wait! 133!
Code: Select all
x = 17, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
8.2E4.2E$8.E4.E2.E$10.E2.3E$9.2E$E.EA.EA.A4.EAE$2E.A.AD2.2A2.ED.E$3.E
.A.2A.DA.A2.A$3.A.A.E2.2A2.2A$4.E3.2E2.2E$11.E2.2E$12.2E2.E$15.2E!
Ah ah ah, 132:
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x = 18, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
11.2E3.2E$11.E2.E2.E$13.3E$9.4E$E.EA.EA.A4.EAE$2E.A.AD2.2A2.ED.E$3.E.
A.2A.DA.A2.A$3.A.A.E2.2A2.2A$4.E3.2E2.2E$11.E2.2E$12.2E2.E$15.2E!
127:
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x = 19, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
11.2E$11.E.E$9.2E2.E$E.EA.EA.A2.2E.AE$2E.A.AD2.2A2.ED.E$3.E.A.2A.DA.A
2.A$3.A.A.E2.2A.E2A$4.E2.E$7.2E6.3E$15.E2.E$17.2E!

BlinkerSpawn
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by BlinkerSpawn » October 4th, 2019, 5:09 pm
testitemqlstudop wrote: ↑October 4th, 2019, 4:25 am
127:
Code: Select all
x = 19, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
11.2E$11.E.E$9.2E2.E$E.EA.EA.A2.2E.AE$2E.A.AD2.2A2.ED.E$3.E.A.2A.DA.A
2.A$3.A.A.E2.2A.E2A$4.E2.E$7.2E6.3E$15.E2.E$17.2E!
Can be trivially modified to save an OFF and get you to 94:
Code: Select all
x = 19, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
11.2E$11.E.E$9.2E2.E$E.EA.EA.A2.2E.AE$2E.A.AD2.2A3.A.E$3.E.A.2A.DA.A
2.A$3.A.A.E2.2A.E2A$4.E2.E$7.2E6.3E$15.E2.E$17.2E!
At least eight more cells can be saved.
EDIT: Toroidalet's choice of OFFs is quite interesting and pushes the least upper bound down to
85!
Last edited by
BlinkerSpawn on October 7th, 2019, 6:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Hdjensofjfnen
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by Hdjensofjfnen » October 6th, 2019, 2:45 pm
You have to admit my initial solution was quite neat, though.
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" Stephen Crane
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2i3y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

toroidalet
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by toroidalet » October 6th, 2019, 5:02 pm
90:
Code: Select all
x = 16, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
9.2E$5.E2.E2.E$.A2.A.A2.2E.A.2E$.AE2A2.2A3.A.E$3.D.2A.DA.A2.A$.AEA.E
2.2A.E2A$E2.E.E$2E2.E3.4E$8.E2.E!
Here are 2 others:
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x = 16, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
10.2E$2E8.E.E$E.E5.2E2.E$2.A2.D.A2.2E.AE$.EA.2A2.2A3.A.E$2.E.A.2A.DA.
A2.A$2.A.A4.2A.E2A$3.2E$9.4E$9.E2.E!
Code: Select all
x = 15, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
10.E$2.2E5.E.E$.E.3E2.E2.E$.A2.D.A2.2E.AE$EA.2A2.2A3.A.E$.E.A.2A.DA.A
2.A$.A.A4.2A.E2A$2.2E$8.4E$8.E2.E!
"Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
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BlinkerSpawn
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by BlinkerSpawn » October 8th, 2019, 3:52 pm
85, as promised:
Code: Select all
x = 15, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
4.2E2.E.E$A2.A.A2.2E.A.2E$AE2A2.2A3.A.E$2.D.2A.DA.A2.A$AEAE3.2A.E2A$E
2.E$7.4E$7.E2.E!
New puzzle:
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x = 6, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
.3A$A2.A$.4A$2.A$3.A$.4A$2.A2.A$2.3A!

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by A for awesome » October 8th, 2019, 5:32 pm
BlinkerSpawn wrote: ↑October 8th, 2019, 3:52 pm
New puzzle:
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x = 6, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
.3A$A2.A$.4A$2.A$3.A$.4A$2.A2.A$2.3A!
103:
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
3.2E$.3A.E$A2.D.E$.4A$2.A$E2.D$E4A$2.D2.A$2.3A$2.E!
I'd be surprised if this wasn't minimal.
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)
$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$
http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all
Aidan F. Pierce

BlinkerSpawn
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by BlinkerSpawn » October 8th, 2019, 9:43 pm
A for awesome wrote: ↑October 8th, 2019, 5:32 pm
103:
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x = 6, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
3.2E$.3A.E$A2.D.E$.4A$2.A$E2.D$E4A$2.D2.A$2.3A$2.E!
I'd be surprised if this wasn't minimal.
I would certainly be inclined to agree, since I specifically designed it to be impossible with two OFFs, well done!
Next puzzle is yours.

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by A for awesome » October 8th, 2019, 9:55 pm
Code: Select all
x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
A.3A$A.A$A2.A$.2A.A$.A2.2A2.A$A2.A2.A.A$2.A2.A.2A$4.2A$3.A2.3A!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)
$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$
http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all
Aidan F. Pierce

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by toroidalet » October 8th, 2019, 11:44 pm
101:
Code: Select all
x = 14, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
6.2E$6.E$2E5.3E$E.A.3A2.E$2.A.A2.E$.EA2.A.2E$E2.2A.A2.E$.E.A2.ADE.A$
2.A2.A.ED.A$3.EA2.A.2A.2E$4.E.2A4.E$2.E2.A2.3A.E$2.2E.E.E2.E.2E$5.E.E
$5.2E!
EDIT:
98
Code: Select all
x = 16, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
3.2E$4.E$3.E$2.A.3A$2.A.A2.E.2E$.EA2.A.E.E.E$E2.2A.A2.E2.E.2E$.E.A2.A
DE.A.2E.E$2.A2.A.ED.A$3.EA2.A.2A$4.E.2A$2.E2.A2.3A$2.2E.E.E2.E$5.E.E$
5.2E!
EDIT2:
95
Code: Select all
x = 14, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
3.2E$4.E$3.E3.E$2.A.3AE$2.A.A$.EA2.A$E2.2A.A.2E$.E.A2.ADE.A$2.A2.A.ED
.A$3.EA2.A.2A.2E$4.E.2A4.E$2.E2.A2.3A.E$2.2E.E.E2.E.2E$5.E.E$5.2E!
"Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Terry Pratchett

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by BlinkerSpawn » October 9th, 2019, 5:11 pm
Now that one was
tough, but 90:
Code: Select all
x = 13, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
3.E$.3E$E6.2E$.A.3A2.E$EA.A2.2E$.A.EDE$E.DA.A3.2E.E$E.A2.2A2.A.2E$.A.
EA2.A.A$3.A2.A.2A$3.E.2A$4.A2.3A$6.E2.E$7.2E!
EDIT: 88
Code: Select all
x = 13, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
2.2E$3.E$2.E4.2E$.A.3A2.E$.A.A2.2E$EA.EDE$E.DA.A3.2E.E$2.A2.2A2.A.2E$
.AE.A2.A.A$3.A2.A.2A$3.E.2A$4.A2.3A$6.E2.E$7.2E!
EDIT 2: Lucky break yields 84:
Code: Select all
x = 13, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
5.2E$5.E$6.E$EA.3AE$.A.A$.A2.A$2.2A.D3.2E.E$2.D.E2A2.A.2E$EAE.A2.A.A$
E2.A2.A.2A$3.E.2A$4.A2.3A$6.E2.E$7.2E!

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by A for awesome » October 9th, 2019, 6:28 pm
BlinkerSpawn wrote: ↑October 9th, 2019, 5:11 pm
84:
Code: Select all
x = 13, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
5.2E$5.E$6.E$EA.3AE$.A.A$.A2.A$2.2A.D3.2E.E$2.D.E2A2.A.2E$EAE.A2.A.A$
E2.A2.A.2A$3.E.2A$4.A2.3A$6.E2.E$7.2E!
Still not optimal.
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)
$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$
http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all
Aidan F. Pierce