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Methusyntheses? TOTAL FAILURE!!! lol
Posted: February 3rd, 2015, 12:17 pm
by Gustavo6046
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 3rd, 2015, 12:26 pm
by simsim314
I've a definition for you. I call it Linerae.
Lineraes are patterns that can be drawn in few second with simple mouse move inside golly. Here is Linerae 1 - it's the first Linerae that has 69,71 and 136 cells in the same horizontal line. Obviously we all knew about 136 dots line, by they weren't part of any Linerae before. Obviously generating long streight line inside golly with single mouse move, present serious challenge so 136 in a line is pretty nice result - and best known so far.
Obviously this is notable pattern because it's the first Linerae found, with the understanding it's not some "random pattern", but a Linerae.
Code: Select all
x = 1277, y = 878, rule = B3/S23
241b5o$239b2o5b6o$237b2o13b7o$235b2o22b6o$233b2o30b7o$231b2o39b6o$229b
2o47b6o$227b2o55b7o$225b2o64b6o$223b2o72b7o$221b2o81b6o$219b2o89b7o$
217b2o98b6o$215b2o106b7o$213b2o115b6o$211b2o123b7o$209b2o132b6o$207b2o
140b7o$205b2o149b6o$203b2o157b6o$201b2o165b7o$199b2o174b6o$197b2o182b
7o$195b2o191b6o$193b2o199b7o$191b2o208b6o$189b2o216b4o$187b2o222bo$
185b2o224bo$183b2o227bo$181b2o230bo$179b2o232bo$177b2o235bo$175b2o238b
o$173b2o240bo$171b2o243bo$169b2o246bo$167b2o248bo$165b2o251bo$163b2o
254bo$161b2o256bo$159b2o259bo$157b2o261bo$155b2o264bo$153b2o267bo$151b
2o269bo$149b2o272bo$147b2o275bo$145b2o277bo$143b2o280bo$141b2o283bo$
139b2o285bo$137b2o288bo$135b2o291bo$133b2o293bo$131b2o296bo$129b2o299b
o$127b2o301bo$125b2o304bo$123b2o307bo$121b2o309bo$119b2o312bo$117b2o
315bo$115b2o317bo$113b2o320bo$111b2o323bo$109b2o325bo$107b2o328bo$105b
2o331bo$103b2o333bo$101b2o336bo$99b2o338bo$97b2o341bo$95b2o344bo$93b2o
346bo$91b2o349bo$89b2o352bo$87b2o354bo$85b2o357bo$83b2o360bo$81b2o362b
o$79b2o365bo$77b2o368bo$75b2o370bo$73b2o373bo$71b2o376bo$69b2o378bo$
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506bo$16bo506bo$15bo508bo$15bo509bo$14bo510bo$14bo511bo$14bo512bo$13bo
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337bo10b6o186bo$5bo336bo17b6o180bo$5bo335bo24b6o175bo$5bo333b2o31b6o
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6bo324bo88b6o127bo$6bo323bo95b6o121bo$6bo321b2o102b6o116bo$6bo320bo
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$6bo316bo138b6o89bo$6bo315bo145b6o84bo$6bo314bo152b6o78bo$6bo313bo159b
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308bo188b6o49bo$6bo307bo195b6o43bo$6bo306bo202b6o38bo$6bo305bo209b6o
32bo$6bo304bo216b6o26bo$6bo303bo223b6o20bo$6bo302bo230b6o14bo$6bo301bo
237b6o9bo$6bo299b2o244b6o3bo$6bo298bo252b6o$6bo297bo256bo2b6o$6bo296bo
257bo8b6o$6bo295bo259bo13b6o$6bo294bo260bo19b6o$7bo292bo261bo25b6o$7bo
291bo262bo31b6o$7bo290bo263bo37b6o$7bo289bo265bo42b6o$7bo287b2o266bo
48b6o$7bo286bo268bo54b6o$7bo285bo269bo60b6o$7bo284bo270bo66b6o$7bo283b
o272bo71b6o$7bo282bo273bo77b6o$7bo281bo274bo83b4o$7bo280bo275bo87bo$7b
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8bo249bo310bo107bo$8bo248bo312bo107bo$8bo247bo313bo108bo$8bo246bo314bo
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o354bo133bo$2bo219bo354bo134bo$2bo219bo354bo135bo$2bo219bo354bo136bo$
2bo219bo354bo137bo$2bo219bo355bo137bo$bo220bo355bo138bo$bo220bo355bo
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220bo360bo148bo$220bo360bo149bo$220bo360bo150bo$220bo360bo151bo$219bo
361bo152bo$219bo362bo152bo$219bo362bo153bo$219bo362bo154bo$219bo362bo
155bo$219bo362bo156bo$219bo363bo156bo$219bo363bo157bo$218bo364bo157bo
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o365bo159bo187b3o284b4o$218bo365bo160bo182b4o291b5o$218bo365bo161bo
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217bo366bo164bo165b4o321b5o$217bo367bo164bo161b3o330b4o$217bo367bo165b
o157b3o337b4o$217bo367bo166bo152b4o344b4o$217bo367bo167bo148b3o352b5o$
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o135b4o374b4o$216bo369bo170bo131b3o382b3o$216bo369bo171bo127b3o387bo$
216bo369bo171bo124b3o390bo$216bo370bo171bo119b4o392bo$216bo370bo172bo
115b3o396bo$216bo370bo173bo111b3o398bo$216bo370bo174bo107b3o401bo$216b
o370bo175bo102b4o403bo$215bo372bo175bo98b3o407bo$215bo372bo176bo94b3o
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179bo81b3o418bo$215bo373bo179bo77b3o421bo$215bo373bo180bo72b4o$215bo
373bo181bo68b3o$214bo374bo182bo64b3o$214bo374bo183bo60b3o$214bo375bo
183bo55b4o$214bo375bo183bo52b3o$214bo375bo184bo48b3o$214bo375bo185bo
44b3o$214bo375bo186bo39b4o$214bo376bo186bo35b3o$213bo377bo187bo31b3o$
213bo377bo188bo26b4o$213bo377bo189bo22b3o$213bo377bo190bo18b3o$213bo
378bo190bo14b3o$213bo378bo191bo9b4o$213bo378bo192bo5b3o$213bo378bo193b
ob3o$212bo379bo192b3o$212bo379bo188b4o3bo$212bo378bo186b3o8bo$212bo
378bo183b3o12bo$212bo378bo180b3o16bo$212bo378bo176b4o19bo$212bo378bo
173b3o24bo$212bo378bo170b3o28bo$211bo379bo167b3o32bo$211bo378bo164b4o
36bo$211bo378bo161b3o41bo$211bo378bo158b3o45bo$211bo378bo154b4o49bo$
211bo378bo151b3o54bo$211bo378bo148b3o57bo$211bo378bo145b3o60bo$210bo
378bo142b4o63bo$210bo378bo139b3o68bo$210bo378bo136b3o71bo$210bo378bo
133b3o74bo$210bo378bo129b4o77bo$210bo378bo126b3o81bo$210bo377bo124b3o
84bo$210bo377bo121b3o88bo$209bo378bo117b4o91bo$209bo378bo114b3o95bo$
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o374bo102b3o108bo$213bo373bo99b3o112bo$214b2o371bo95b4o115bo$216bo370b
o92b3o119bo$217bo369bo90b2o122bo$218b2o367bo89bo124bo$220bo366bo88bo
125bo$221bo364bo87b2o127bo$222b2o362bo86bo129bo$224bo361bo85bo130bo$
225b2o359bo84bo131bo$227bo358bo83bo132bo$228bo357bo81b2o133bo$229b2o
355bo80bo136bo$231bo353bo80bo137bo$232bo352bo79bo138bo$233b2o350bo78bo
139bo$235bo349bo77bo140bo$236b2o347bo75b2o141bo$238bo346bo74bo143bo$
239bo345bo73bo145bo$240b2o342bo73bo146bo$242bo341bo72bo147bo$243bo340b
o70b2o148bo$244b2o338bo69bo150bo$246bo337bo68bo151bo$247bo336bo67bo
153bo$248b2o334bo66bo154bo$250bo332bo65b2o155bo$251b2o330bo64bo157bo$
253bo329bo63bo158bo$254bo328bo62bo159bo$255b2o326bo61bo160bo$257bo325b
o60bo162bo$258bo324bo58b2o163bo$259b2o321bo58bo165bo$261bo320bo57bo
166bo$262bo319bo56bo167bo$263b2o317bo55bo168bo$265bo316bo53b2o170bo$
266b2o314bo52bo172bo$268bo312bo52bo173bo$269bo311bo51bo174bo$270b2o
309bo50bo175bo$272bo308bo49bo176bo$273bo307bo47b2o178bo$274b2o305bo46b
o180bo$276bo304bo45bo181bo$277b2o301bo45bo182bo$279bo300bo44bo183bo$
280bo299bo42b2o184bo$281b2o297bo41bo186bo$283bo296bo40bo188bo$284bo
295bo39bo189bo$285b2o293bo38bo190bo$287bo291bo38bo191bo$288bo290bo36b
2o192bo$289b2o288bo35bo194bo$291b3o284b2o34bo196bo$294b4o277b3o35bo
197bo$298b4o271b2o37bo198bo$302b5o263b3o37b2o199bo$307b4o256b3o39bo
201bo$311b4o250b2o41bo202bo$315b5o242b3o42bo203bo$320b4o235b3o44bo205b
o$324b4o228b3o46bo206bo$328b5o221b2o47b2o207bo$333b4o214b3o48bo209bo$
337b4o207b3o50bo210bo$341b4o201b2o52bo211bo$345b5o193b3o53bo213bo$350b
4o186b3o54b2o214bo$354b4o180b2o56bo216bo$358b5o172b3o57bo217bo$363b4o
165b3o59bo218bo$367b4o158b3o61bo219bo$371b5o151b2o62b2o220bo$376b4o
144b3o63bo223bo$380b4o137b3o65bo224bo$384b5o130b2o67bo225bo$389b4o123b
3o68bo226bo$393b4o116b3o70bo227bo$397b5o108b3o71b2o228bo$402b4o102b2o
73bo231bo$406b4o95b3o74bo232bo$410b5o87b3o76bo233bo$415b4o81b2o78bo
234bo$419b4o74b3o78b2o235bo$423b4o67b3o80bo237bo$427b5o60b2o82bo239bo$
432b4o53b3o83bo240bo$436b4o46b3o85bo241bo$440b5o38b3o87bo242bo$445b4o
32b2o88b2o243bo$449b4o25b3o89bo245bo$453b5o17b3o91bo246bo$458b4o11b2o
93bo248bo$462b4o4b3o94bo249bo$466b4o95b2o250bo$564bo252bo$563bo253bo$
562bo254bo$561bo256bo$560bo257bo$558b2o258bo$557bo260bo$556bo261bo$
555bo262bo$554bo263bo$552b2o265bo$551bo267bo$550bo268bo$549bo269bo$
548bo270bo$547bo271bo$545b2o273bo$544bo275bo$543bo276bo$542bo277bo$
541bo278bo$539b2o279bo$538bo281bo$537bo283bo$536bo284bo$535bo285bo$
533b2o286bo$532bo288bo$531bo289bo$530bo291bo$529bo292bo$528bo293bo$
526b2o294bo$525bo296bo$524bo297bo$523bo299bo$522bo300bo$520b2o301bo$
519bo303bo$518bo304bo$517bo305bo$516bo306bo$515bo308bo$513b2o309bo$
512bo311bo$511bo312bo$510bo313bo$509bo314bo$507b2o316bo$506bo318bo$
505bo319bo$504bo320bo$504bo320bo$503bo321bo$503bo321bo$503bo322bo$502b
o323bo$502bo323bo$502bo323bo$501bo324bo$501bo324bo$501bo325bo$500bo
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o$498bo329bo$498bo329bo$498bo329bo$497bo330bo$497bo330bo$497bo331bo$
496bo332bo$496bo332bo$496bo332bo$495bo333bo$495bo333bo$495bo334bo$494b
o335bo$494bo335bo$494bo335bo$493bo336bo$493bo336bo$493bo336bo$492bo
337bo$492bo336bo$492bo336bo$492bo336bo$491bo337bo$491bo337bo$491bo337b
o$490bo338bo$490bo338bo$490bo337bo$489bo338bo$489bo338bo$489bo338bo$
488bo339bo$488bo339bo$488bo339bo$487bo340bo$487bo339bo$487bo339bo$486b
o340bo$486bo340bo$486bo340bo$485bo341bo$485bo341bo$485bo341bo$484bo
341bo$484bo341bo$484bo341bo$484bo341bo$483bo342bo$483bo342bo$483bo342b
o$482bo343bo$482bo343bo$482bo342bo$481bo343bo$481bo343bo$481bo343bo$
480bo344bo$480bo344bo$480bo344bo$479bo345bo$479bo344bo$479bo344bo$478b
o345bo$478bo345bo$478bo345bo$477bo346bo$477bo346bo$477bo346bo$476bo
346bo$476bo346bo$476bo346bo$475bo347bo$475bo347bo$475bo347bo$475bo347b
o$474bo348bo$474bo347bo$474bo347bo$473bo348bo$473bo348bo$473bo348bo$
472bo349bo$472bo349bo$472bo349bo$471bo350bo$471bo349bo$471bo349bo$470b
o350bo$470bo350bo$470bo350bo$469bo351bo$469bo351bo$469bo351bo$468bo
351bo$468bo351bo$468bo351bo$467bo352bo$467bo352bo$467bo352bo$467bo352b
o$466bo353bo$466bo352bo$466bo352bo$465bo353bo$465bo353bo$465bo353bo$
464bo354bo$464bo354bo$464bo354bo$463bo355bo$463bo354bo$463bo354bo$464b
o353bo$464bo353bo$465bo352bo$465bo352bo$465bo352bo$466bo351bo$466bo
350bo$467bo349bo$467bo349bo$468bo348bo$468bo348bo$468bo348bo$469bo347b
o$469bo347bo$470bo345bo$470bo345bo$470bo345bo$471bo344bo$471bo344bo$
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o340bo$475bo339bo$475bo339bo$475bo339bo$476bo338bo$476bo338bo$477bo
336bo$477bo336bo$477bo336bo$478bo335bo$478bo335bo$479bo334bo$479bo334b
o$480bo333bo$480bo332bo$480bo332bo$481bo331bo$481bo331bo$482bo330bo$
482bo330bo$482bo330bo$483bo329bo$483bo328bo$484bo327bo$484bo327bo$484b
o327bo$485bo326bo$485bo326bo$486bo325bo$486bo325bo$487bo323bo$487bo
323bo$487bo323bo$488bo322bo$488bo322bo$489bo319b2o$489bo317b2o$489bo
315b2o$490bo313bo$490bo311b2o$491bo308b2o$491bo306b2o$491bo305bo$492bo
302b2o$492bo300b2o$493bo297b2o$493bo296bo$494bo293b2o$494bo291b2o$494b
o289b2o$495bo287bo$495bo285b2o$496bo282b2o$496bo280b2o$496bo279bo$497b
o276b2o$497bo274b2o$498bo271b2o$498bo269b2o$498bo268bo$499bo265b2o$
499bo263b2o$500bo260b2o$500bo259bo$501bo256b2o$501bo254b2o$501bo252b2o
$502bo250bo$502bo248b2o$503bo245b2o$503bo243b2o$503bo242bo$504bo239b2o
$504bo237b2o$505bo234b2o$505bo231b3o$505bo226b5o$506bo219b6o$506bo214b
5o$507bo208b5o$507bo202b6o$508bo196b5o$508bo191b5o$508bo186b5o$509bo
179b6o$509bo174b5o$510bo168b5o$510bo162b6o$510bo157b5o$511bo151b5o$
511bo145b6o$512bo139b5o$512bo134b5o$513bo128b5o$513bo122b6o$513bo117b
5o$514bo111b5o$514bo105b6o$515bo99b5o$515bo94b5o$515bo89b5o$516bo82b6o
$516bo77b5o$517bo71b5o$517bo65b6o$517bo60b5o$518bo54b5o$518bo48b6o$
519bo42b5o$519bo37b5o$520bo31b5o$520bo25b6o$520bo20b5o$521bo14b5o$521b
o8b6o$522bo2b5o$522b3o!
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 3rd, 2015, 12:59 pm
by Gustavo6046
simsim314 wrote:Live free or die has
its own wiki. You can get familiar with known patterns in this rule there.
There is also an interesting discussion with many non trivial patterns in the forum
here.
Wow,
that is novel!
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 3rd, 2015, 7:55 pm
by dvgrn
Gustavo6046 wrote:2) You can't upload RLE, only the admins, to avoid virus contamination (if there ever is any virus of RLE).
There are some types of files that you can't upload to a forum thread
as an attachment, but that's not the best way to publish RLE-encoded patterns. Just select the pattern in Golly, choose Edit > Copy, paste the result into a message. Select the resulting RLE text and click the "Code" button at the top of the text area.
If you're saying that this doesn't work for you the way it works for everyone else, please explain in detail exactly what doesn't work. Exactly what happens when you follow the above steps?
Code blocks for patterns are a really important detail to figure out if you want other people on the forums to look at your patterns. It's much less convenient to copy patterns from images, or even to download them as files from some other site. Most people simply won't take the trouble, if you won't take the trouble to post the patterns in a convenient format.
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 4th, 2015, 2:07 pm
by Gustavo6046
dvgrn wrote:Gustavo6046 wrote:2) You can't upload RLE, only the admins, to avoid virus contamination (if there ever is any virus of RLE).
There are some types of files that you can't upload to a forum thread
as an attachment, but that's not the best way to publish RLE-encoded patterns. Just select the pattern in Golly, choose Edit > Copy, paste the result into a message. Select the resulting RLE text and click the "Code" button at the top of the text area.
If you're saying that this doesn't work for you the way it works for everyone else, please explain in detail exactly what doesn't work. Exactly what happens when you follow the above steps?
Code blocks for patterns are a really important detail to figure out if you want other people on the forums to look at your patterns. It's much less convenient to copy patterns from images, or even to download them as files from some other site. Most people simply won't take the trouble, if you won't take the trouble to post the patterns in a convenient format.
It's okay then. Here is the Rake Flotilla 1 code:
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#CXRLE Pos=7,0
x = 24, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
4o5b2o$o3bo3b2ob2o$o8b4o$bo2bo5b2o2$13bo$3b2o8b2o$2bo2bo9bo$2bo2bo4b5o
$2b2ob2o3b4o$4b2o4bo4$4o$o3bo13bo2bo$o16bo$bo2bo12bo3bo$17b4o4$15b8o$
15bo7bo$15bo$16bo6bo2$18bo2bo$17bo$17bo3bo$17b4o6$18b4o$2bo2bo12bo3bo$
bo16bo$bo3bo13bo2bo$b4o4$5b2o4bo$3b2ob2o3b4o$3bo2bo4b5o$3bo2bo9bo$4b2o
8b2o$14bo2$2bo2bo5b2o$bo8b4o$bo3bo3b2ob2o$b4o5b2o!
Well you might already know the Glider 7171's code, and the rest of my discoveries might not be no novel.
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 4th, 2015, 2:11 pm
by Gustavo6046
An universe I have been working for: (an huge torus of 4000x4000 where you just go around the GOL universe and play with random things you may encounter)(as usual is pretty big)
...oops, is so big to fit in an code so I think I might put it in a zip file (as usual), in the attachment.
Believe or not, there are even extremely rare patterns, including those that were long considered non-natural (unknown to happen naturally)!
A BIT MORE FILE SIZE THAN GEMINI(, I guess...)
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 4th, 2015, 3:35 pm
by simsim314
Gustavo6046 wrote:Here is the Rake Flotilla 1 code
1. Great that you posted rle code, now it's much simpler to view it.
2. It looks like absolutelly trivial combination of two interesting patterns:
This rake:
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x = 22, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
4o5b2o$o3bo3b2ob2o$o8b4o$bo2bo5b2o2$13bo$3b2o8b2o$2bo2bo9bo$2bo2bo4b5o
$2b2ob2o3b4o$4b2o4bo4$4o$o3bo13bo2bo$o16bo$bo2bo12bo3bo$17b4o!
And this flotilla:
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x = 9, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
3bo2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2b4o4$8o$o7bo$o$bo6bo2$3bo2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2b4o!
Both of the patterns are pretty interesting, and it's great you can appreciate them.
But there is absolutely no value in randomly combining two interesting patterns. It would be real "rake flotilla", if for example the flotilla would somehow be stabilized by the smoke of the puffer. In other words if you did some "actual work" to find this combination.
And even if it would, it would be considered "another useless discovery". Nothing extremely notable but fun to watch, and has some interest. Nothing that should be placed in the wiki, maybe in Jason Summers collection at best.
Glider supression of the Bomber-Breeder debris
Posted: February 4th, 2015, 3:48 pm
by Gustavo6046
Anyways, I think we just can use some glider stream to surpress the bomber breeder's debris.
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 6th, 2015, 8:07 pm
by Gustavo6046
I think it's not really useless, but the following reaction cleanly displaces an blinker using an glider:
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x = 10, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bo$7b3o3$o$o$o!
It might be useful to do spaceships...
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 4:50 am
by towerator
Gustavo6046 wrote:I think it's not really useless, but the following reaction cleanly displaces an blinker using an glider:
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bo$7b3o3$o$o$o!
It might be useful to do spaceships...
To be honest, I can assure with a good amount of certitude that every 8-cell reactions are known. (however, there is a lot of unknown after 20 cells. The recently discovered loafer, a 20-cell c/7, didn't need more, and it's the smallest non-c/2 ship ever discovered...)
Also, sadly, it couldn't even be a spaceship: the displacement is (3;1). A rake firing exactly the right stream (and it would be a strange, non c/2 rake) would shoot it's gliders farther and farther away, effectively creating a growing spaceship. A simpler way to solve this problem would be to put 2 rakes instead so that their input disintegrates. Of course, it only works if there is only one glider output...
The only remaining possibility woud be a (3;1) spaceship. But the quest for a (2;1) non-geminoid spaceship is already running, and has been one of the "Everest of Life" for more than 15 years already. A miracle could happen, but it's unlikely.
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 5:38 am
by codeholic
towerator wrote:But the quest for a (2;1) non-geminoid spaceship is already running, and has been one of the "Everest of Life" for more than 15 years already. A miracle could happen, but it's unlikely.
If you mean a knightship, the "miracle" happened last year, when HBK was constructed, because it's definitely not a geminoid.
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 8:56 am
by simsim314
towerator wrote:To be honest, I can assure with a good amount of certitude that every 8-cell reactions are known.
It depends what you define by "known"? If you mean someone at some point run this setup - yes. But no record was kept and it's probably was done by script, and scripts miss a lot of things. For example people did run any combination of 9 cell to make sure no infinite growth appeared. But no one knows how much initial 8 cells contain a spaceship. Or how many 8 cells can be "ignited" by glider for infinite growth.
I've recently
posted a list of 7 cells methuselahs (meaning 7 cells that last more than 800 generations). I needed it to discover new 10 cells infinite growth - and actually most of the currently 10 cells infinite growth were discovered last year, and half of them based on 7 cells methushelahs that I just find by random search and are not listed anywhere. Obviously people run a lot of 7 cells setups to find the most long living methushelah, but there is no recorded "list" of such (and my 7 cells list is pretty partial).
As for 10 cells - last year I've discovered around 20 new "10 cells infinite growth", so regarding "known" objects 10 cells is pretty much the limit of anything "known", that was somehow "covered" bottom up. 11 cells is already total jungle and no one made any exhausted search on it for any purpose that I know of.
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 11:19 am
by towerator
codeholic wrote:towerator wrote:But the quest for a (2;1) non-geminoid spaceship is already running, and has been one of the "Everest of Life" for more than 15 years already. A miracle could happen, but it's unlikely.
If you mean a knightship, the "miracle" happened last year, when HBK was constructed, because it's definitely not a geminoid.
To be honest, I forgot it... Still, the HBK is not really the (1;2)p6 we all dream to discover, that would be a bit like:
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x = 13, y = 19, rule = b3/s23
11bob$6b2o2bo2b$6bob2o3b$5bo5b2o$bobo2bo6b$o12b$o3bo2b3ob2o$o3bo4bo3b$
5bob2o4b$bo3bob2o4b$2ob3o7b$4b2obo5b$2o2b3o6b$2obo9b$3b2o4b2o2b$b3o9b$
2bo2b3ob2o2b$3b2o2b2o4b$4b3o!
Besides, to be effective, the Bl+Gl=Bl would need to be mounted on a (3;1) (I don't know the min period of a "camelship") which is even more unlikely to be found.
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 12:22 pm
by Gustavo6046
Anyways the minimum period of a camelship is p6, and the following reaction is more interesting. An failed try of eating an block with an Eater 1! (it doesn't has 8 cells, it has 11...)
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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4b2o$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o!
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 12:37 pm
by towerator
Gustavo6046 wrote:Anyways the minimum period of a camelship is p6, and the following reaction is more interesting. An failed try of eating an block with an Eater 1! (it doesn't has 8 cells, it has 11...)
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4b2o$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o!
1) Don't confuse "knightships" (2;1) and "camelships" (3;1) While it is well known that the fastest KS possible is p6, I'd say more p8 for a (3;1)
2) I'm sorry to say that, gustavo, but, without wanting to be mean... no, it's not interesting at all! There are hundreds of 11-cell patterns that create a blockade... Starting like this:
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x = 59, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
27b3o2$28b3o9$46bo$44b2o$43bobo$7b4o32b2o$4b3o$4o5$58bo$56b2o$55bobo$
55b2o$26b2o26bo$25b2o$24b2o!
All those patterns would be "very interesting" in your standard!
If you wonder, yes, gains of symmetry is quite common within small patterns: Here is the bun(FAIRLY QUITE not discovered by me):
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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$b3o!
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 1:07 pm
by simsim314
Gustavo in GOL interesting pattern are not defined as those that you discover. In GOL there is plenty of open and interesting problems that people try to solve, and they are usually connected to other problems.
You can't take something random and state it's interesting. For example herschel conduits weren't interesting because they were pretty, it was a great way to solve other problems - like building glider guns, oscillators, spaceships and computers. If you don't know what herschel conduits are, I would suggest to learn first before you jump to make "amazing discoveries".
There is NOTHING in GOL which is interesting just "because" someone find it. You might find some new interesting direction to explore, but then you need to explain how your direction of exploration or how your pattern is related to other GOL problems and research areas. How do you contribute to the whole area of GOL research. You CAN'T take random pattern and state it's interesting just because.
If you don't understand what I'm talking about, I would suggest to go over some threads in the forum and take a look at what other people are interested in, and what are the areas of exploration that exists in GOL.
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 6:25 pm
by Gustavo6046
Wait in there! Don't think I know every single pattern under 20 cells, and much less expect I know the most notable ones!
If I post something, I ain't certain of it being novel or if I have "rediscovered" 't!
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 8:17 pm
by towerator
Gustavo6046 wrote:Wait in there! Don't think I know every single pattern under 20 cells, and much less expect I know the most notable ones!
If I post something, I ain't certain of it being novel or if I have "rediscovered" 't!
Well, then, before you check a pattern, make sure it is even
moderately interesting. As an example, this pattern has no value: I can draw a complete scribble, and as soon as a familiar object arises, post it as an "interesting" pattern. but that's not interesting. A previously unknown eater in interesting. A glider synthesis of a complex pattern is interesting. A reaction that can be exploited into a spaceship (And by this I mean, a plausible one) is interesting. A spaceship is interesting. An unknow oscillator is interesting.
But a random pattern with a random output is not interesting...
Nobody knows every under 20-cells patterns, but is that a reason to post every single ones?
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 7th, 2015, 10:10 pm
by Gustavo6046
Sorry, but I don't have anything to say.
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 9:41 am
by Gustavo6046
I managed to flip a boat 45 degrees using 2 gliders.
Code: Select all
x = 16, y = 18, rule = B36/S23
13bobo$13b2o$14bo7$8bo$7bobo$8b2o4$2o$b2o$o!
And to kill a long ship USING 2 GLIDERS TOO! I LUV GLIDER REACTIONS! GLIDER REACTIONS ARE AWSOME!!!!
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x = 22, y = 14, rule = B36/S23
4b2o$4bobo$5bobo$6b2o2$2o$b2o$o4$20bo$19b2o$19bobo!
Wait, this reaction does turns a input glider into TWO @CKING output gliders (WHY ALWAYS 2 GLIDERS TO AWESOME?), one of which is in the same direction and other flipped 90ยบ:
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x = 13, y = 19, rule = B36/S23
4bo$2bobo$3b2o3$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o7$9b2o$9bobo$11bo$11b2o!
Unfortunately can't be reused in a oscillator.
And the best: they all work in CGOL just like does in HighLife!
One pattern based in my two-glider long ship destruction
reflects an glider 180 degrees! dvgrn discovered it. It is the following:
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x = 6, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2bobo$3bobo$4b2o$bo$b2o$obo!
Yes, it is just as simple as that. But unfortunately it is one-time and also leaves a block. This
Code: Select all
x = 36, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$32bobo$33bobo$34b2o$31bo$31b2o$30bobo14$b2o$obo$2bo!
has another glider that turn it into a SUPER CLEAN OTR and..
I managed to put a eater to kill the output glider! The following uses an eater to kill it ALL:
Code: Select all
x = 36, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$32bobo$33bobo$34b2o$31bo$31b2o$30bobo5$25b2o$24bobo$24bo$23b2o6$
b2o$obo$2bo!
Moving a little the eater DOES difference; here the eater kills only the reaction, not to itself
Code: Select all
x = 36, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$32bobo$33bobo$34b2o$31bo$31b2o$30bobo12$17b2o$16bobo$b2o13bo$obo
12b2o$2bo!
The following is the closest possible I can put the eater from the active area. Seems like any more and it turns into a shitty methuselah:
Code: Select all
x = 36, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$32bobo$33bobo$34b2o$31bo$31b2o$30bobo3$26b2o$25bobo$25bo$24b2o8$
b2o$obo$2bo!
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 10:44 am
by Gustavo6046
Now I turned to find INTERESTING patterns, in what seems like ConwayLife's standards. Why ain't anyone seeing they now?
Oh and just to rechapter, my Rake Flotilla 1 is based in the old Backrake Flotilla 1 which I'm wising to turn back up.
PS: I'm now designing a Backrake Flotilla 2, which is also based in Backrake 1s, but I need a pushalong to add to my two escort HWSS.
EDIT: Got it! Instead I used an schick engine.
Backrake Flotilla 2:
Code: Select all
x = 67, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
5b3o11b3o23b3o11b3o$4bo3bo9bo3bo7bo5bo7bo3bo9bo3bo$3b2o4bo7bo4b2o5b3o
3b3o5b2o4bo7bo4b2o$2bobob2ob2o5b2ob2obobo4bob2ob2obo4bobob2ob2o5b2ob2o
bobo$b2obo4bob2ob2obo4bob2o4b3ob3o4b2obo4bob2ob2obo4bob2o$o4bo3bo2bobo
2bo3bo4bo3b3ob3o3bo4bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo4bo$12bobo15b3ob3o15bobo$2o7b2obob
ob2o7b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$12bobo37bobo$6b3o9b3o12bo12b3o9b3o
$6bo3bo9bo11bobo11bo9bo3bo$6bobo4b3o15bo3bo15b3o4bobo$12bo2bo4b2o10bob
o10b2o4bo2bo$15bo17bo17bo$11bo3bo17bo17bo3bo$11bo3bo16bobo16bo3bo$15bo
16bobo16bo$12bobo18bo18bobo3$30b2o3b2o4$33bo$33bo!
Tripwire:
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$3bo$3bob2o$2obob2o$2obo$3bo$3b2o!
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 11:55 am
by dvgrn
Gustavo6046 wrote:One pattern based in my two-glider long ship destruction reflects an glider 180 degrees! dvgrn discovered it.
Ouch! Please don't get me involved here. This was discovered in 1970, along with every other collision of a small stable object with a single glider.
You're following in the footsteps of
people from 45 years ago. Collision statistics started showing up in the very first issue of LifeLine, but in a much more organized way than you've managed so far. Many of these early discoveries were made with graph paper and a pencil (!).
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 2:20 pm
by Gustavo6046
Boys! THIS reaction does moves a blinker many cells left and one upward after 177 gens.
Code:
Select all
x = 19, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o3$14bo$13bobo$10bo3bo$9bobo$2bo6bobo$bobo6bo5b3o$2bo3b2o$6b2o
$11b2o$3b2o6b2o$2bobo$3bo3bo$6bobo6bo$6bo2bo4b2o$7b2o5b2o$14bo!
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 20th, 2015, 2:29 am
by simsim314
If you're trying to find the most unnotable reaction of all times - I think you've succeeded.
Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns
Posted: February 20th, 2015, 5:48 am
by Freywa
Well, well, what do we have here? A melange of useless reactions? Still, I would encourage Rehermann. However, I will start on my project to implement the FSSP in CGOL.