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Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 21st, 2016, 6:17 pm

I'd like to devote a thread to finding stuff in rules such as B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4, B2-a3-in/S2-c3, B2-a3/S1c2a, and other testing rules, since the "Test" thread is getting overcrowded with tests.

NOTE: THIS THREAD IS FOR DISCOVERIES ONLY, NOT TESTING!

Here's an oscillator I found this afternoon in B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4.

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x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
3bo3bo$b4ob4o$2o3bo3b2o$b4ob4o$3bo3bo!
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 21st, 2016, 6:31 pm

Ok, new discovery. I'm calling it double sparked stairs.

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x = 9, y = 4, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2bo3bo$b2o3b2o$2ob3ob2o$4bo!
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'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 21st, 2016, 6:40 pm

And a quadruple sparked stair (p3):

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2bo3bo$b2o3b2o$2obobob2o$2b2ob2o2$2b2ob2o$2obobob2o$b2o3b2o$2bo3bo!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 22nd, 2016, 9:19 pm

I shall call this the sparked bridge. It is period 4.

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2bo$b2o$2obo$2b2o2$5b2o$5bob2o$6b2o$6bo!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Rhombic » August 26th, 2016, 7:04 am

(link to discoveries so far here)
New eater:

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x = 13, y = 9, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2b2o$2b2o$2o$2o2$8bo$7bobo$10bobo$8bo!
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:I shall call this the sparked bridge. It is period 4.

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2bo$b2o$2obo$2b2o2$5b2o$5bob2o$6b2o$6bo!
Do you think that it can be extended (and stabilised)?

xp3 that can be extended:

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x = 9, y = 10, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
3b2o$3b2o$2bo2b2o$2o3b2o$2o2bo2b2o$2b2o3b2o$2b2o2bo$4b2o$5b2o$6bo!
xp6

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2bo4bo$b2o4b2o$2obo2bob2o3$4b2o$4b2o!
Non-stair xp10!

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
b4o$o3bo$obobo$o3bo$4o!
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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Rhombic » August 26th, 2016, 7:52 am

Hdjensofjfnen, I have seen your nx1 polyominos that are oscillators (n=12,48,144,432,1296) and, after a quick search, I have found the next values for n=3888, 11664, 34992, 104976, 314928...
Unfortunately, even though it accurately predicts all values in the sequence, the generating function it gives does not match the sequence at all (or I am missing something).
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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Bullet51 » August 26th, 2016, 8:22 am

Rhombic wrote:Hdjensofjfnen, I have seen your nx1 polyominos that are oscillators (n=12,48,144,432,1296) and, after a quick search, I have found the next values for n=3888, 11664, 34992, 104976, 314928...
Unfortunately, even though it accurately predicts all values in the sequence, the generating function it gives does not match the sequence at all (or I am missing something).

It seems that the "correct" sequence should be 16,48,144,432,1296...
Still drifting.

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Rhombic » August 26th, 2016, 9:17 am

Side note

xp5 (spark on block)

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o$2o2bo$3bo$2bo$bo!
Absurdly unexpected synthesis

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x = 22, y = 9, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
b2o$b2o4$2o15bo$b2o13bobo$2bo16bobo$17bo!
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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 28th, 2016, 4:47 pm

@Rhombic: Lol!

Not sure if this is known or not, might have been mentioned somewhere:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
6bo$6b2o$7b2o$4bo$3bobo$4bo$2o$b2o$2bo!
EDIT: p2 (duoplets stablilized by blocks)

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o$2o2bo$3bo$2bo$bo2b2o$4b2o!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 28th, 2016, 4:51 pm

Rhombic wrote: xp5 (spark on block)

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o$2o2bo$3bo$2bo$bo!
Riding your coattails. (non-trivial p5)

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o$2o2bo$3bo$2bo$bo2$6b2o$6b2o!
EDIT:
Oops... :lol:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o$2o2bo$3bo$2bo$bo5b2o$6b2o$5b2o$4b2o$4bo!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 28th, 2016, 5:03 pm

Whoa, whoa, whoa! What's this?

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
4bo$2b2ob2o$b2o3b2o$bo5bo$o7bo$bo5bo$b2o3b2o$2b2ob2o$4bo!
EDIT: Synthesis for another still life:

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o$2o2bo$3bo$2bo$bo$7b2o$6b2o$6bo!
EDIT 2: Sparked blocks (p2):

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o$2o$2bo2$4bo$5b2o$5b2o!
EDIT 3: Another p2:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o3b2o$2o3b2o$2bobo$b2ob2o$2bobo$2o3b2o$2o3b2o!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Rhombic » August 29th, 2016, 7:46 am

Possible synthesis of p2:

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x = 19, y = 7, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o2b2o$2o2b2o2$14bo$4bo8bobo$4b2o10bobo$5b2o7bo!
4G synthesis of loaf p38:

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x = 58, y = 19, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
55b3o$55bo$13b3o38bo2bo$4bo8bo$4bo7bo2bo38bobo$2b2ob2o$2ob2o7bobo$4bo
43bo$2bo47bo$49bo2$53bo2$11bo41bo$10bo2bo$11bo$12bo2$12bo!
xp8:

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
3b2o$3b2o2$2bo$2o$b2o$2bo2b2o$5b2o!
Two xp6:

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2b2o$2b2o2$2bo$2o$b2o$2bo2b2o$5b2o!

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x = 8, y = 7, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
5bo$5b2o$6b2o$4bo$2o$b2o$2bo!
xp7!!!

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
b2o$b2o2$4bo$2o$b2o$2bo2b2o$5b2o!
xp11!!!

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2bo$b2o3b2o$2obo2b2o2$3bo$4bobo$7b2o$6b2o$6bo!
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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Rhombic » August 29th, 2016, 9:55 am

Potential partial:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2bo3b2o$b2o3bobo$2obo3b2o2$3bo$4bobo$7b2o$6b2o$6bo!
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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Rhombic » September 1st, 2016, 6:23 am

I'm currently apgsearching this rule. Funnily enough, this xp4 has not appeared yet:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
6b2o$6b2o2$3bo$4bo$2bo$2o$2o!
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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » September 2nd, 2016, 8:54 pm

xp2's:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o$2o$2b2o$ob2o!

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x = 4, y = 6, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2b2o$2b2o$bo2$2o$2o!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » September 2nd, 2016, 8:56 pm

One xp4:

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o$2o2$4bo$3bo!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Rhombic » September 3rd, 2016, 8:23 am

Please check this page to know which oscillators are already known (check the four symmetries that I have already apgsearched).
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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » September 3rd, 2016, 11:57 am

One xp2 (trivial?):

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x = 6, y = 1, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
ob2obo!
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » September 3rd, 2016, 12:25 pm

A synthesis:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2-a3i4aijk/S2a3-i4
2o$2o3$6bo$5bobo$4bo2bo$5b2o!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

Code: Select all

x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Hunting for oscillators in new rules

Post by Rhombic » September 4th, 2016, 6:46 am

Rhombic wrote:Hdjensofjfnen, I have seen your nx1 polyominos that are oscillators (n=12,48,144,432,1296) and, after a quick search, I have found the next values for n=3888, 11664, 34992, 104976, 314928...
Unfortunately, even though it accurately predicts all values in the sequence, the generating function it gives does not match the sequence at all (or I am missing something).
The periods of the first four are 14, 2046, 1022, 65534. This seems to be some sort of 2^f(n) - 2 where f is some function. f(n) for n=1,2,3,4 gives 4, 11, 10, 16.

This is weird.
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