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Re: Random posts
Posted: December 8th, 2020, 1:13 pm
by MathAndCode
wwei23 wrote: ↑December 8th, 2020, 1:10 pm
So, uh, where should I post P7 partials then? I'm already trying to only post the longer ones.
I think that goldenratio was talking to me (and I intend to obey).
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 8th, 2020, 1:17 pm
by wwei23
MathAndCode wrote: ↑December 8th, 2020, 1:13 pm
I think that goldenratio was talking to me (and I intend to obey).
But he shouldn't be mean to you

Also, your comments on fallback are good for me. If I run out of search space and find nothing, I'll have to try w16, and I want to know which partials I should try back. And for that, I'd have to see your comments on fallback.

Re: Random posts
Posted: December 8th, 2020, 3:03 pm
by MathAndCode
wwei23 wrote: ↑December 8th, 2020, 1:17 pm
But he shouldn't be mean to you

I didn't interpret it as meanness, but then again, I may be wrong.
wwei23 wrote: ↑December 8th, 2020, 1:17 pm
Also, your comments on fallback are good for me. If I run out of search space and find nothing, I'll have to try w16, and I want to know which partials I should try back. And for that, I'd have to see your comments on fallback.
Yes, but you probably have an idea of what constitutes good fallback by now. However, if you're worried about not having my comments, here are the aspects of good fallback:
- Falling back a greater distance
- Falling back sooner/more quickly after delivering the spark
- Staying back for longer after falling back
The third point tends to favor higher-period oscillators. The first point also favors higher-period oscillators indirectly because the oscillator can come back at a maximum speed of c orthogonal or c/4 diagonal (and it's often restricted to c/2 orthogonal) in order to deliver the next spark, so it can't fall back farther than it can come back in the time of one period.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 3:32 am
by Hunting
Are there anything left on gameoflifetotalwar? It's a rubbish site now.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 3:35 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Hunting wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 3:32 am
Are there anything left on gameoflifetotalwar? It's a rubbish site now.
What is this website? It's all in Thai. I've never heard of it before.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 3:44 am
by Hunting
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 3:35 am
Hunting wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 3:32 am
Are there anything left on gameoflifetotalwar? It's a rubbish site now.
What is this website? It's all in Thai. I've never heard of it before.
It was a very popular Life-combat online game, played all over the internet, not only on this community. Many members joined because of that website. Its domain name is now taken for whatever reason and became a rubbish Thai site.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 3:47 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Hunting wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 3:44 am
It was a very popular Life-combat online game, played all over the internet, not only on this community. Many members joined because of that website. Its domain name is now taken for whatever reason and became a rubbish Thai site.
Is there any way to find its original version? When did this happen/when was it played?
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 3:55 am
by Hunting
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 3:47 am
Hunting wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 3:44 am
It was a very popular Life-combat online game, played all over the internet, not only on this community. Many members joined because of that website. Its domain name is now taken for whatever reason and became a rubbish Thai site.
Is there any way to find its original version? When did this happen/when was it played?
That was what I was asking. For the second question, there's only one thread about the game on this forum, its here:
https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2113
lifecompetes was close but not quite the same as totalwar.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 5:19 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
What were the rules? Do you think it can be remade?
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 8:07 am
by JP21
Hunting wrote: ↑November 17th, 2020, 7:00 am
JP21 wrote: ↑November 17th, 2020, 6:44 am
dani wrote:signature: she/her
vivi wrote:signature: she/her
sus
it may or may not be true
also refer to me as she/her
and now........
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 8:14 am
by Hunting
JP21 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 8:07 am
Hunting wrote: ↑November 17th, 2020, 7:00 am
JP21 wrote: ↑November 17th, 2020, 6:44 am
sus
it may or may not be true
also refer to me as she/her
and now........
bruh she/her is good it helps you get chess titles (or equivalently chess variant titles) more easily XD
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 10:01 am
by wwei23
Wait, you can run soup searches on replit?
EDIT: Oh, it's only around 1000 soups per second in B3/S23/C1.

Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 11:34 am
by JP21
What is the proper thread for this?
This is the synthesis of
xs19_3pm0mmzw343 with the fewest gliders:
Code: Select all
x = 50, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o4$19bo$20bo$18b3o3$11bo17bo11bobo$12b2o13b2o12b2o$11b2o15b2o
12bo2$16bobo$17b2o$17bo6$19b2o$19bobo$19bo4b3o$24bo$25bo11$48b2o$47b2o
$49bo!
Can someone reduce the synthesis?
Reaction from a soup in catagolue:
Code: Select all
x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$7bo2bo$3bo3bo2bo$2bobo3bobo$5bo$2b3o$2bo2bo$o3bo$4bo!
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 12:27 pm
by EvinZL
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Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 8:08 pm
by MathAndCode
JP21 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 11:34 am
What is the proper thread for this?
This is the synthesis of
xs19_3pm0mmzw343 with the fewest gliders:
Code: Select all
x = 50, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o4$19bo$20bo$18b3o3$11bo17bo11bobo$12b2o13b2o12b2o$11b2o15b2o
12bo2$16bobo$17b2o$17bo6$19b2o$19bobo$19bo4b3o$24bo$25bo11$48b2o$47b2o
$49bo!
I know that there's a thread on the Patterns forums for synthesizing oscillators, but I don't think that there's a thread for synthesizing other patterns. I encourage you to make one.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 8:15 pm
by goldenratio
MathAndCode wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 8:08 pm
I know that there's a thread on the Patterns forums for synthesizing oscillators, but I don't think that there's a thread for synthesizing other patterns. I encourage you to make one.
Soup-based syntheses (it hasn't been posted on in a while)
For non-soup based still life syntheses, the 20-bit still life synthesis thread, and it's kind of pointless for larger still lives unless they have a purpose
EDIT: @hunting that thread is basically the same but it's older so that one is better
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 8:20 pm
by Hunting
MathAndCode wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 8:08 pm
JP21 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 11:34 am
What is the proper thread for this?
This is the synthesis of
xs19_3pm0mmzw343 with the fewest gliders:
Code: Select all
x = 50, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o4$19bo$20bo$18b3o3$11bo17bo11bobo$12b2o13b2o12b2o$11b2o15b2o
12bo2$16bobo$17b2o$17bo6$19b2o$19bobo$19bo4b3o$24bo$25bo11$48b2o$47b2o
$49bo!
I know that there's a thread on the Patterns forums for synthesizing oscillators, but I don't think that there's a thread for synthesizing other patterns. I encourage you to make one.
https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3267
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 8:34 pm
by MathAndCode
I should have clarified that I meant threads that we are allowed to use, i.e. that have an been inactive for more than a year.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 8:50 pm
by goldenratio
MathAndCode wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 8:34 pm
threads that we are allowed to use
woooow you think someone would get banned if they necroposted longer than a year
Ok but seriously still life syntheses in synthesizing oscillators should be acceptable, look back in the older pages of the thread
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 8:57 pm
by MathAndCode
goldenratio wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 8:50 pm
woooow you think someone would get banned if they necroposted longer than a year
That is an exaggeration, but I understand how you could be confused because the English language only has a finite number of words, so it only convey the intended meaning with a certain amount of accuracy.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 8:58 pm
by wwei23
goldenratio wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 8:50 pm
woooow you think someone would get banned if they necroposted longer than a year
I did.
EDIT:
MathAndCode wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 8:57 pm
English language only has a finite number of words, so it only convey the intended meaning with a certain amount of accuracy.
Then use more words at a time.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 9:02 pm
by MathAndCode
wwei23 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 8:58 pm
Then use more words at a time.
I couldn't think of a way to do that without making the sentence awkward.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 10:42 pm
by JP21
wwei23 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 10:20 pm
Is it truly impossible to stabilize the P45 gun/oscillator using P9 oscillators?
Did you randomly thought about the p45 gun, or you saw one of my posts?
Also, I posted a 9 glider synthesis but catagolue still says 10.
JP21, 2 days ago wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 10:44 pm
xs19_3pm0mmzw343
That's surprising. How did my synthesis even got to catagolue? No one even tried to reduce the 4 gliders spark to 3 gliders.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 11:15 pm
by creeperman7002
JP21 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2020, 10:42 pm
Also, I posted a 9 glider synthesis but catagolue still says 10.
You have to wait a few hours for it to get on to the database.
Re: Random posts
Posted: December 9th, 2020, 11:33 pm
by MathAndCode
The longest-lasting eight-cell methuselah probably consists of an R-pentomino and a preblock or blinker. The longest-lasting nine-cell methuselah is probably an R-pentomino and a predecessor of a traffic light or something, and the longest-lasting eleven-cell methuselah may even just be an R-sequence and a predecessor for a honey farm or something.