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Re: Challenges

Post by GUYTU6J » February 17th, 2020, 6:40 am

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
February 17th, 2020, 1:40 am
The real question is whether this is synthesizable:

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3x3 block array
Just right above the source post in that thread:

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x = 148, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
40bobo42bobo$41b2o42b2o$41bo44bo2$39bo48bo$40bo46bo$38b3o46b3o6$49bo
28bo$50bo26bo$48b3o26b3o$59bobo4bobo$60b2o4b2o$60bo6bo32b2ob2ob2o12b2o
b2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o$100b2ob2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o$2bo2bo15b2o2b2o
34b2o2b2o$obo2bobo13bo4bo34bo4bo33b2ob2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o$b2o
2b2o15b4o36b4o34b2ob2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o2$b2o2b2o15b4o36b4o34b
2ob2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o$obo2bobo13bo4bo34bo4bo33b2ob2ob2o12b2ob
2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o$2bo2bo15b2o2b2o34b2o2b2o$100b2ob2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o$60bo
6bo31bobob2obobo10bobob2obobo$60b2o4b2o32bo6bo12bo6bo$59bobo4bobo$48b
3o26b3o38b2o8b2o$50bo26bo39bobo8bobo$49bo28bo40bo3b2o3bo$123bobo$123bo
4$38b3o46b3o$40bo46bo$39bo48bo!

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Re: Challenges

Post by testitemqlstudop » February 17th, 2020, 7:29 am

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
February 17th, 2020, 1:40 am

The real question is whether this is synthesizable:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2ob2ob2o$2ob2ob2o2$2ob2ob2o$2ob2ob2o2$2ob2ob2o$2ob2ob2o!
Well how about you look at the forsaken thread that demonstrates any 3xn is synthesizable?

Is 4x4 tho?

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Re: Challenges

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » February 17th, 2020, 2:05 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:
February 17th, 2020, 7:29 am
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
February 17th, 2020, 1:40 am

The real question is whether this is synthesizable:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2ob2ob2o$2ob2ob2o2$2ob2ob2o$2ob2ob2o2$2ob2ob2o$2ob2ob2o!
Well how about you look at the forsaken thread that demonstrates any 3xn is synthesizable?

Is 4x4 tho?
4x4 is more easily synthesized than 3x3: you can just put four of the 2x2 syntheses together.
EDIT: Never mind, that's more easily said than done.

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Challenges

Post by PkmnQ » February 27th, 2020, 5:23 am

Challenge: Find the most useful system possible, such that a turing machine can solve the halting problem for said system.
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Re: Challenges

Post by Moosey » March 5th, 2020, 3:26 pm

Challenge: make a mahlo OCF


HARD Challenge: prove the axiom of choice in a consistent system :lol: :lol:
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Re: Challenges

Post by PkmnQ » March 6th, 2020, 4:22 am

Moosey wrote:
March 5th, 2020, 3:26 pm
Challenge: make a mahlo OCF
The inly things I can find about Mahlo OCF’s are someone’s user blog on googology wiki. And looks like it depends on another ordinal which depends in another type of OCF, so seems like this isn’t something I can understand yet.

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Re: Challenges

Post by Moosey » March 6th, 2020, 7:59 am

PkmnQ wrote:
March 6th, 2020, 4:22 am
Moosey wrote:
March 5th, 2020, 3:26 pm
Challenge: make a mahlo OCF
The inly things I can find about Mahlo OCF’s are someone’s user blog on googology wiki. And looks like it depends on another ordinal which depends in another type of OCF, so seems like this isn’t something I can understand yet.
Well then I can rectify that

You'd just have to read this and this
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Re: Challenges

Post by Moosey » March 6th, 2020, 9:37 am

Challenge: come up with a sequence like Gijswijt's sequence with
1) an even harder name to spell and pronounce
2) a slower growth rate
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Re: Challenges

Post by Hunting » March 6th, 2020, 10:09 am

Moosey wrote:
March 6th, 2020, 9:37 am
Challenge: come up with a sequence like Gijswijt's sequence with
1) an even harder name to spell and pronounce
2) a slower growth rate
PkmnQ's sequence Ha ha ha

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Re: Challenges

Post by BlinkerSpawn » March 6th, 2020, 4:28 pm

Moosey wrote:
March 6th, 2020, 9:37 am
Challenge: come up with a sequence like Gijswijt's sequence with
1) an even harder name to spell and pronounce
2) a slower growth rate
Just give the inverse Ackermann sequence some silly name.
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Re: Challenges

Post by Hunting » March 6th, 2020, 4:59 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:
March 6th, 2020, 4:28 pm
Moosey wrote:
March 6th, 2020, 9:37 am
Challenge: come up with a sequence like Gijswijt's sequence with
1) an even harder name to spell and pronounce
2) a slower growth rate
Just give the inverse Ackermann sequence some silly name.
Hunting wrote:
March 6th, 2020, 10:09 am
PkmnQ's sequence Ha ha ha
or maybe Testitemqlstudop's sequence?

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Re: Challenges

Post by Moosey » March 6th, 2020, 5:30 pm

Alright then
I challenge testitem to come up with a nontrivial, extremely slow sequence and name it after themself
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Re: Challenges

Post by GUYTU6J » April 8th, 2020, 12:05 pm

@Hunting: Given the same definition of directions (especially forward × upward = right), how to design an equivalent of right hand rule for your little ponies?

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Re: Challenges

Post by Hunting » April 8th, 2020, 8:17 pm

GUYTU6J wrote:
April 8th, 2020, 12:05 pm
@Hunting: Given the same definition of directions (especially forward × upward = right), how to design an equivalent of right hand rule for your little ponies?
?!

Dunno.

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Re: Challenges

Post by gameoflifemaniac » April 9th, 2020, 7:46 am

Synthesize this in 4 gliders:

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x = 437, y = 341, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2o$2bo164$282b2o$282bobo$283b2o9$273b2o$273b2o7$277b2o$277b2o12$
257b3o25b2o$285b2o3$288bo$281b2o4bobo$280bobo4bobo$281bo6bo2$244b2o$
243bobo24b2o$244bo24bo2bo5b2o$270b2o5bo2bo$277bo2bo$278b2o2$274bo$252b
2o20bo$252b2o20bo$242b2o$241bo2bo11b2o12b3o3b3o$241bobo6b2o4b2o$242bo
7b2o22bo$274bo$274bo$251bo$250bobo$251b2o4$263b2o$263b2o4$266b2o$266b
2o2$293b2o$293b2o3$297b2o$297b2o4$262bo$261bobo$261bo2bo$251bo5bo4b2o$
251bo5bo$251bo5bo2$253b3o8b2o8b2o$264b2o8bobo$275b2o3$293b2o$292bo2bo$
293b2o66$156bo$156bobo$156b2o10$436bo$434bobo$435b2o!
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b4o25bo$o29bo$b3o3b3o2bob2o2bob2o2bo3bobo$4bobo3bob2o2bob2o2bobo3bobo$
4bobo3bobo5bo5bo3bobo$o3bobo3bobo5bo6b4o$b3o3b3o2bo5bo9bobo$24b4o!

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Re: Challenges

Post by GUYTU6J » April 23rd, 2020, 8:56 am

One of my ancient post seems unanswered:
GUYTU6J wrote:
August 11th, 2016, 11:48 am
Can we make a QR code which evolves into what it codes?
Also, please suggest a solution for my mlp-related question above!

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Re: Challenges

Post by Hunting » April 23rd, 2020, 11:55 am

GUYTU6J wrote:
April 23rd, 2020, 8:56 am
Also, please suggest a solution for my mlp-related question above!
That question is unclear to me.

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Re: Challenges

Post by dvgrn » April 23rd, 2020, 11:59 am

GUYTU6J wrote:
April 23rd, 2020, 8:56 am
One of my ancient post seems unanswered:
GUYTU6J wrote:
August 11th, 2016, 11:48 am
Can we make a QR code which evolves into what it codes?
Sure, it's doable. Just have to run a whole lot of speculative hopeful QR codes until one happens to describe its own output.

Estimate: between tens of millions and tens of billions, depending on how much junk the average code turns into. If early vanish reactions in small QR codes aren't too uncommon, then one promising line of "research" might be writing a script to generate as many ways of saying "nothing", "nothing at all", "empty space", etc., as possible.

But then it might make sense to extend the script to work gradually up the list of constellations: "two blocks", "two blocks and a glider", "boat and beehive", "beehive and boat" (two ways of saying that, or more if you include capitalization, all-caps vs. all lowercase, period at the end, phrases like "This QR code evolves into", etc., etc.

Then again, why not make the self-documenting pattern a little more readable? I can dig out the code I used to make that unimpressive length-13055 cyclical sample, if anyone is interested in adapting it.

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Re: Challenges

Post by Hunting » April 23rd, 2020, 12:56 pm

dvgrn wrote:
April 23rd, 2020, 11:59 am
GUYTU6J wrote:
April 23rd, 2020, 8:56 am
One of my ancient post seems unanswered:
GUYTU6J wrote:
August 11th, 2016, 11:48 am
Can we make a QR code which evolves into what it codes?
Sure, it's doable. Just have to run a whole lot of speculative hopeful QR codes until one happens to describe its own output.

Estimate: between tens of millions and tens of billions, depending on how much junk the average code turns into. If early vanish reactions in small QR codes aren't too uncommon, then one promising line of "research" might be writing a script to generate as many ways of saying "nothing", "nothing at all", "empty space", etc., as possible.

But then it might make sense to extend the script to work gradually up the list of constellations: "two blocks", "two blocks and a glider", "boat and beehive", "beehive and boat" (two ways of saying that, or more if you include capitalization, all-caps vs. all lowercase, period at the end, phrases like "This QR code evolves into", etc., etc.

Then again, why not make the self-documenting pattern a little more readable? I can dig out the code I used to make that unimpressive length-13055 cyclical sample, if anyone is interested in adapting it.
Or the RLE, or the apgcode, etc. There are just too many ways to represent a constellation.

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Re: Challenges

Post by otismo » April 23rd, 2020, 4:23 pm

This "Mystery" Pattern is in my collection :

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[M2] (golly 2.0)
#C Mystery device
#C
#C This device is a very powerful signal-processing mechanism.
#C I challenge the reader to determine the pattern's function.
#C
#C
#C Send all comments to apgoucher@gmx.com
#C
#C Adam P. Goucher, 2010
#G 1293
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supposed to be from Adam P. Goucher, back in 2010, when I was combing thru these Forums

@ Adam P. Goucher, what is it - I give up...

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Re: Challenges

Post by MarkJ » May 4th, 2020, 7:20 pm

Moosey wrote:
March 6th, 2020, 9:37 am
Challenge: come up with a sequence like Gijswijt's sequence with
1) an even harder name to spell and pronounce
2) a slower growth rate
Gijswijt is actually a Dutch person (or name at least, according to genealogy) and the pronunciation on that site is COMPLETELY WRONG.

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Re: Challenges

Post by PkmnQ » May 5th, 2020, 11:24 pm

I’m just gonna pronounce it /gaɪ.swaɪt/ because I have no idea how dutch people pronounce “j”.

Edit: I put it in google translate and it said /xaɪ.svaɪt/, which was pretty close!

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Re: Challenges

Post by yujh » May 8th, 2020, 11:07 pm

I challenge everyone to get more daily posts than me.
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Re: Challenges

Post by Hunting » May 8th, 2020, 11:28 pm

yujh wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 11:07 pm
I challenge everyone to get more daily posts than me.
I'm afraid profilic posting is not a privilege. Plus, most of your posts are extremely short that they don't actually provide useful information.

Post if and only if you really have to post.

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Re: Challenges

Post by yujh » May 8th, 2020, 11:31 pm

Hunting wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 11:28 pm
yujh wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 11:07 pm
I challenge everyone to get more daily posts than me.
I'm afraid profilic posting is not a privilege. Plus, most of your posts are extremely short that they don't actually provide useful information.

Post if and only if you really have to post.
Yep yep.
I may throw away half of my posts.
(Some of my posts are too long)
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