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[GUYTU6J]

Imagine a world where these suggestions are taken seriously.

When in Doubt, Ask Wadufi! Today our beloved columnist continues to help with your micellaneous questions. We are going to focus on preadolescent life.

Q: Hello, this is a primary school teacher. We have an entrance test for kids, but I constantly think that it is overly difficult and I cannot persuade others to change this situation. Should I insist?
A: It depends on the exact test problems, and indeed you need to understand the capabilities of examinees if you do not want to deter too many. Say, arithmetic below 10 is much better than a task to hatch an egg.

Q: What do you think about campus bullying?
A: This is a very serious issue for school managers. It is common for students to have quarrels and discriminations, and if this happens, teachers should intervene actively to provide solutions instead of sitting aside and letting them fight. On the other hand, campus environment must be improved to prevent potential hazards arising from bullying incidents, such as falling from height.

Q: You know, farming life felt so boring since childhood and I have fled from countryside to megapolis. Eye-opening but puzzling! After these months I began looking back at my hometown but going back could make me a coward. Can you give some suggestions?
A: I can imagine your dilemma, feeling blue even when observing sunrise on the east that gives your little home a golden shade. However, generally there will be countless brand new possibilities in a city compared with a tiny farm. Just keep going if determined, and success will eventually come to you.
...

EDIT two days later: did you know...
that puzzle.mc was formerly named geometric-progression-puzzle.rle and metapixel-p216-gun was eppstein-p216-hist-META-B35-S236.mc.gz in some ancient Golly versions? (These are not reflected in changes.html unlike today)

[confocaloid]

I also believe that rediscovery isn’t bad, and without knowing that it’s a rediscovery while saying that one discovered this is also not bad, but circling the patterns they found is a never done before(kinda) thing to a pattern collection, at least for me. That’s more than just saying, I was the first to find this, and why would you need such a large box(with a lot of empty space, [s]did you discover empty cells …?)[/s] like people either acknowledge the fact that you found this, sometimes naming them after you like cordership, but I don’t think they just give the names themselves. Most people has to agree with this, and you don’t usually name a pattern when you just found it(except systematic names) I would rather hear people saying, oh
I discovered these oscillators

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pxxx, pxxxx, pxxxxx

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Not adding to a pattern collection circling out what you found.
the first thing is you don’t usually just throw things into the pattern collection, you just post the new discoveries,
And as I said circling out one’s discoveries is a bit odd, and using a lifehistory rule just for circling. (Except the glider tag along and eater part which I don’t understand why it is there)

In this particular case, I believe that indeed it would be more reasonable to just post the new (re-)discoveries, rather than modifying and reposting the whole collection. Unfortunately your reply in that thread did not say anything about that, and instead was (and still is, as of the time I'm writing this) an one-line response that, in my personal opinion, has an undesirable effect of discouraging attempts to make constructive contributions to the thread - because now it makes the impression that basically pretty much everything of interest is already "obviously known and in catagolue". As it stands, that does not seem constructive to me. Also, I cannot see how the question of naming patterns is relevant to this particular case.

To reiterate: please do not make one-line replies that say something is already known. There is an option of actually replying by writing who and when discovered that something, and/or providing references to available resources (forum threads, LifeWiki, the book, Catagolue, published papers, ...) where that knowledge can be found. Also there is an option of replying here in Sandbox (as I did), rather than adding an off-topic post to the original thread.

[pzq_alex]

As of now, MDiOCA has 3000 posts.

[BTS-fan]

Found this on the net

A primary school teacher who left a class of 25 pupils in tears after she told them Santa Claus did
not exist has been fired. When excited youngsters became rowdy as they talked about Santa, the supply
teacher said out suddenly, "It's your parents who leave out presents on Christmas Day."
The class of sevenyearolds at Blackshaw Lane Primary School, Royton,Greater Manchester burst
into tears and told their parents when they arrived home. Mothers and fathers then complained about the
incident and were sent a letter by the school saying the teacher, who only worked at the school for one
day last week, has been disciplined.
The school has now said it will not hire her again.
One father said, "My son came home and said that his teacher had told the class that Santa doesn't
exist and it's their mum and dad that put out presents for them. Obviously, they were all talking about
Christmas and being a bit rowdy. She just came straight out with it."
"My son was in tears and so was everyone else in the class-especially as it was so close to
Christmas. I thought it was wrong. He was crazy about it. He's only seven years old and it's part of the
magic of Christmas to him."
"We told him that she did not believe in Father Christmas because of her religion and he's fine now."
"The father described the incident as 'shocking' and believed it was done with malicious
intent. A lot of parents were angry and complained to the school.The teacher,who was
supplied by Rochdale and Oldham Supply Agency,is still listed and will work with other schools,"the
agency said.
However,t he head teacher in Angela McCormick refused to comment on the incident.

[otismo]

An ELBOW CUBE just emerged from The Sun :

am so glad we stay on top of these kinds of things over here...

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[yujh]

I don't know if this rule counts as intresting enough to deserve its own topic so I'm posting it here
Ships
This rule has as of yet 3 ship speeds known, c/2o,5c/11o,and 36c/1356o.

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x = 77, y = 158, rule = B3-cnqy4ez5ckr6c7c/S2-i3-a4einrtyz5cejkr6-k7c8
9$37bo$37b3o$39bo$37b3o21$37b2o$37bobo$39bo$35bo3bo$35b4o2$35b4o$35bo
3bo$39bo$37bobo$37b2o8$37b2o$39bo$36b2obo$37b3o2$37b3o$36b2obo$39bo$
37b2o6$39bo$34bo2b2obo$33b8o$34bo2b2obo$39bo9$41bo$37bob2obo$36b7o$36b
o2b2obo$41bo2$41bo$36bo2b2obo$36b7o$37bob2obo$41bo14$21bo$20b3o$19bo3b
o$18b3ob2o6bo$18b3o2bo4b2ob2o$19bo2b3o3bo3bo$20bo4bo2bobo$19bobobobo3b
ob2o$22b2o7b2o$23b2obo2b3o$25bobo2b2o$26b5o$28bo2$35b2o$30b2o3b3o$27b
2ob2o5bo10bo$27b3o4b3o9b3o2bo$26b3o5bo11bob2ob2o$27bo3b2obo6b2obobobob
ob2o$27b2o2b3o7b9ob2o2$27b2o2b3o7b9ob2o$27bo3b2obo6b2obobobobob2o$26b
3o5bo11bob2ob2o$27b3o4b3o9b3o2bo$27b2ob2o5bo10bo$30b2o3b3o$35b2o2$28bo
$26b5o$25bobo2b2o$23b2obo2b3o$22b2o7b2o$19bobobobo3bob2o$20bo4bo2bobo$
19bo2b3o3bo3bo$18b3o2bo4b2ob2o$18b3ob2o6bo21bo$19bo3bo25bob2o$20b3o29b
o$21bo!

Infinate Growth
This rule supports two rudimentary wickstretchers and a multitude of puffers/rakes furthermore this rule supports whitespace.

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x = 185, y = 613, rule = B3-cnqy4ez5ckr6c7c/S2-i3-a4einrtyz5cejkr6-k7c8
20$128bo$122bobob2obo$122b2ob4obo$129b2o$122b2ob4obo$122bobob2obo$128b
o6$129bo$122bobo2b2obo$122b9o$124bo2b2obo$129bo4$129bo$123bobob2obo$
121b4ob4obo$121bobobo4b2o$123bob5obo$123b3ob2obo$129bo2$129bo$123b3ob
2obo$123bob5obo$121bobobo4b2o$121b4ob4obo$123bobob2obo$129bo73$124b2o$
121bo2b3o$116b3o3b6o$115bobo2bo5b3o$115b13o$116bobobo3b3o$124b2o134$
107b2o$109bo$106b2obo$107b3o2$107b3o$106b2obo$109bo$107b2o3$118bo$112b
obob2obo$112b2ob4obo$119b2o$112b2ob4obo$112bobob2obo$118bo276$110bo$
109b3o$108b5o$109b3o$110bo!

There is a failed dirty puffer that spices up soups of this rule.

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x = 24, y = 22, rule = B3-cnqy4ez5ckr6c7c/S2-i3-a4einrtyz5cejkr6-k7c8
7$21bo$19b3o$19bo$7bob2o$6b2o3bo$8bo2bo$8bob2o$8b2o![[ STEP 64 ]]

Oscillators
From a non exhaustive serch I found every period between 2 and 11.

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x = 306, y = 93, rule = B3-cnqy4ez5ckr6c7c/S2-i3-a4einrtyz5cejkr6-k7c8
26$137b2o50b2o49b2o$65b2o65bo5bo27b2o21bo50bo7b2o$65bo64b3o3b2o29bo4b
2o16bo48b3o7bobo$40b2o10b2o9b3o8bo27bo5b2o20bo5bob3o17b2o6b4o3bo14b4o
48bo7b4o$8b2o5b2o24bobo8bobo8bo38b3o4bo4bobo13b3o5bobo18bo5bobobo2b3o
13bo2bo6b2o38bobo8bo$8bobo5bobo5b2o14b4o9b2o10bo7b2obo12bo14b2o3b3ob4o
5bo7bobo5bo20b2o4bobo5bo2bo12b2o7b2o24b2o12b3o7b2o19b2o19bo$10bo5b2obo
2bo2bobo13bo14b2o6b4o4bobo13b3o3b4o4b2obo5bo2bo15bo28bo6b3o4bob2o14bo
6bo25bo16bo7bo20bo18bobo$10bo5b2obo2b2o2b2o10b2o7b2obo4b2o2bo7bo2bob2o
20bo2bo3bobob2o4b2o6bob3obo2b3o5b3o21bo4b2o7bo15b2o4b2obo20bobob2o14b
4o2b4o18bobo2bo14bo3bo$10bobo3bobo5bo13bob2o3bob4o4bob5o4bo21bo6b2o4b
2o16b2obob2o2bo7bobo22bo2bo8b4o14bo4bo2bo18b4obo17bobo2bobo19b8o13bobo
$11b2o2b2o7b2o15bo3b2obo12bo4b2o4bo65b2o20b2o2b2o7b2obo14b2o2b2o2b2o
17bob2o18b2o28bo2bobo14bo!

Wrong thread?

[bprentice]

Wrong thread?

You continue to be driven by your childish belief in your own importance. You do not have the maturity or experience to make such judgements. This is especially true when you do not say why NimbleRogue's post is in the wrong thread or suggest a better thread.

Please stop polluting the forums in this way.

Brian Prentice

[yujh]

Wrong thread?

You continue to be driven by your childish belief in your own importance. You do not have the maturity or experience to make such judgements. This is especially true when you do not say why NimbleRogue's post is in the wrong thread or suggest a better thread.

Please stop polluting the forums in this way.

Brian Prentice

I think they know that new rules are posted in TFYOCA

[confocaloid]

Wrong thread?

Maybe it would be helpful to specify exactly which other thread you would suggest for that post. Also, why force readers to scroll through an unabridged copy of the original post just to see an one-line reply? According to (3d)

Quoting earlier posts is fine (and encouraged), but only quote text that is actually relevant to your post. Do not nest quotes too deeply (e.g., do not quote a quote of a quote of a quote).

[yujh]

Wrong thread?

Maybe it would be helpful to specify exactly which other thread you would suggest for that post. Also, why force readers to scroll through an unabridged copy of the original post just to see an one-line reply? According to (3d)

Quoting earlier posts is fine (and encouraged), but only quote text that is actually relevant to your post. Do not nest quotes too deeply (e.g., do not quote a quote of a quote of a quote).

It's just a public private message. i wasn't expecting anybody else to read it.

[confocaloid]

It's just a public private message. i wasn't expecting anybody else to read it.

Then you shouldn't have posted that. Please do not disrupt the forums.

[yujh]

It's just a public private message. i wasn't expecting anybody else to read it.

Then you shouldn't have posted that. Please do not disrupt the forums.

This is the sandbox, though I do sometimes use sandbox for academic posts.

[confocaloid]

This is the sandbox, though I do sometimes use sandbox for academic posts.

This is not your personal sandbox.

[yujh]

This is the sandbox, though I do sometimes use sandbox for academic posts.

This is not your personal sandbox.

This is not corrupting the sand box. we just make random posts here. i can hardly find anything in this forums that is personal.

Edit:
I'm just gonna stop making posts so it won't clutter up the thread.

... I’m also just messing around with you because it’s sandbox, ...

In my opinion, being in the Sandbox does not suddenly make it any more reasonable to mess with people and waste their time.

I'm just telling them that they had posted in the wrong thread, not to mess around with them.

[confocaloid]

This is not corrupting the sand box. we just make random posts here. i can hardly find anything in this forums that is personal.

Obviously this is not your personal sandbox. This is Sandbox on the forum dedicated to cellular automata.

I've just looked through a few recent pages of this thread, and it certainly seems like people in general do not "just make random posts here". At least to me it seems more like people make random posts here so that these posts can be read by everyone else who wants to read them. And apparently there is no such thing as "public private message".

Also,

... I’m also just messing around with you because it’s sandbox, ...

In my opinion, being in the Sandbox does not suddenly make it any more reasonable to mess with people and waste their time.

[hotdogPi]

I don't think it was in the wrong thread.

[NimbleRogue]

First, let me say That I'm not offended by Yujh's comment, I'm still relatively new to the forms and I'm glad to learn how to improve and grow. The reason I posted it in the Rules with interesting dynamics was twofold 1 the c/2o tech Seemed surprisingly versatile 2 the "Failed dirty puffer lasts for an incredibly long time and can appear multiple times in a soup. I'm not aware of the forum Yujh mentioned but can he send it, please thanks.

[yujh]

Here's some of the specially used thread and their function, for everyone, I guess:


Thread for basic non-CGOL questions:
Very OCA related Q&A
Thread For Your Unrecognised CA (TFYOCA for short):
Unrecognised, or basically just new rules go here
Usually you post new rules before you make a thread. This is for less new topics. You can see how people react to your new rules or someone might corderize something, etc. Usually don't make too many posts on just a single rule in that thread (don't be more than a page, but I've somehow done that twice ), if you have a lot it should deserve a thread (not always).
Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata (MDIOCA for short):
Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata. Also not so notable discoveries in very old threads, that is to avoid necroposting (like bumping a thread after a long time, like half a year).
Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project:
yes it's just what its title is.
Smallest Oscillators Supporting Specific Periods:
.
Miscellaneous Spaceship (collections) in Other Cellular Automata:
MDIOCA, except it's just for dumping ship collections[s], or iNoMed's (former) hobby[/s].
Spaceships in Life-like cellular automata:
New spaceships or smaller than the record spaceships in OT rules. OT rules only.
Oscillators in Life-like cellular automata:
Same description as above except spaceships are replaced with oscillators.
Rules 1 transition from Life:
Only for discoveries in rules 1 transition from CGOL. You can treat it as a thread for a specific rule, kind of.
Rules 2 transitions from Life:
Similar to the above, only difference is also the only difference in the title.
Close life variants:
Sort of overlaps with the above two threads.
Rules 1 MAP transition away from Life:
...
Truly Bilateral Life-Like rules:
...
Outer-totalistic hexagonal rules with spaceships:
Same as Spaceships in Life-like cellular automata thread, except it's hexagonal.
Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life:
Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life. For soup searchers, well only LP03 (or sometimes yujh) post in that.
Triangular neighbourhood rules:
Triangular neighbourhood rules
B0 hyper-relativistic speeds:
B0 hyper-relativistic speeds. You probably won't post in that at all.
Ships with speed between c/2 and c:
Ships with speed between c/2 and c.
Alternating rules:
Alternating rules. [s]Also known as Zack's favourite thread[/s]
Larger than Life:
Larger than Life.
HROT,NW (Higher-range outer-totalistic, weighted):
HROT,NW (Higher-range outer-totalistic, weighted).
List of the Turing-complete totalistic life-like CA:
For proving rules to be TC.
Rules with interesting replicators:
For interesting replicators. Doesn't mean looks interesting, but has very unique properties, like these. GUYTU6J and wwei has a ton of very interesting replicators.
Rules with interesting dynamics:
Rules with interesting dynamics. Like Fuzy and Cloudsdale styled rules. whatever. Or like rules where there's a simple agar and there are some dynamics in the agars, like ships that rules in the agars.
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Request a Rule to be "Tamed":
Request a Rule to be "Tamed". You request to find a nonexplosive rule with your wanted patterns.
Rule request thread:
Request for a rule to be made that fits your description. Has quite a lot of good ruletable in it.
Requests for Searches - Non-apgsearch:
Requests for Searches - Non-apgsearch.
apgsearch - haul requests:
Request for apgsearches.









pls suggest additions

[bprentice]

GUYTU6J,

I notice that you liked yujh's post above. Is the following still your opinion?

As for the OCA part, my thoughts are pretty similar to that of muzik's:

• "General Discussion" for general theories and possibly programs/simulators;
• "Range-1 Life-like" for 2D 2-state range-1 outer-totalistic rules, isotropic non-totalistic rules, and non-isotropic rules, on square/hexagonal/triangular grids;
• "Higher-range and Generations" for two generalizations of the 2D rules above, namely higher range and longer generations, custom weighted neighbourhood allowed;
• "Others" for everything else, including but not limited to Margolus, PCA, BSFKL, deficient, naive, extended/investigator/symbiosis, colorized, loops, termites, constructor-computer rules, non-2D rules, other random ruletables, and whatever else developed by bprentice (sorry if a bit rude)

On another topic, you are not qualified to make changes to this LifeWiki article:

https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Brian_Prentice

so please do not do so.

The article exists because Dave Greene did not like links printed in red. The single line in the article does however, allow the reader to find out about my personality, interests and accomplishments by simply reading my 908 posts to the forums.

Brian Prentice

[hotdogPi]

The DEFAULTSORT line needs to remain. It's not text; it's sorts the page correctly (by last name) in things like categories.

[GUYTU6J]

Wow, I have not imagined that one day I would be called (?) for a casual post like and I need to spend half an hour to reply. I merely thought yujh's post is a good summary for the current status of OCA board.

Is the following still your opinion?

As for the OCA part, my thoughts are pretty similar to that of muzik's...

What in your mind would be implied from my answer of either yes or no? None of the proposals for the other cellular automata subforum (and in fact the rest of conwaylife.com forums) has been implemented yet since February, let alone mine.

On another topic, you are not qualified to make changes to this LifeWiki article:

https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Brian_Prentice

so please do not do so.

The article exists because Dave Greene did not like links printed in red. The single line in the article does however, allow the reader to find out about my personality, interests and accomplishments by simply reading my 908 posts to the forums.

Brian Prentice

No, having no interest in the article I am not going to edit it; I am just curious about the unusual redaction, the underlying reason of which is not clear at all to any other forums member. And I would say the last sentence makes no sense to me; expecting a reader to "simply" dig through tons of original publications to understand a topic is exactly the opposite of the intention of encyclopedias or academic reviews.

[yujh]

The article exists because Dave Greene did not like links printed in red.

Wow. My post again caused quite some chaos. Also correction is that book is the one who did all these. Dvgrn doesn’t do these.

Is the following still your opinion?

What’s your opinion on dividing the OCA board? My post above isn’t related to that at all. It’s just a summary of what the threads are.

[bprentice]

What in your mind would be implied from my answer of either yes or no? None of the proposals for the other cellular automata subforum (and in fact the rest of conwaylife.com forums) has been implemented yet since February, let alone mine.

I was simply pointing out the inconsistency in your opinion on yujh's thread definitions and your February proposal and was curious as to whether you have changed your mind about your proposal.

.. having no interest in the article I am not going to edit it; I am just curious about the unusual redaction

Another inconsistency, If you have no interest in the article why did you inquire about my corrections and why are you curious about it?

the underlying reason of which is not clear at all to any other forums member

Have you polled all forum members?

And I would say the last sentence makes no sense to me; expecting a reader to "simply" dig through tons of original publications to understand a topic is exactly the opposite of the intention of encyclopedias or academic reviews.

I am not expecting anything. I am simply providing an accurate statement which can be used by a reader to find out who I am should they choose to do so.

To summarize:

Yesterday after being edited, the article was inaccurate. Today it is accurate and serves to remove the red links that Dave Greene dislikes.

Brian Prentice

[yujh]

.. having no interest in the article I am not going to edit it; I am just curious about the unusual redaction

Another inconsistency, If you have no interest in the article why did you edit it and why are you curious about it?

He did not.

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I was simply pointing out the inconsistency in your opinion on yujh's thread definitions and your February proposal and was curious as to whether you have changed your mind about your proposal.

The thread definitions has nothing to do with the proposals.

Have you polled all forum members?

do you really think people will vote? It’s just such a small article. Talk on the talk page.

[bprentice]

He did not.

Thanks for pointing that out. I have corrected my post.

The thread definitions has nothing to do with the proposals.

The thread definitions are your proposal for the organization of the current OCA board. The proposals are suggestions for the future organization of the OCA board. So they are directly related.

Brian Prentice