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Wars between different rules

Post by yujh » April 14th, 2020, 2:08 am

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 @RULE RFHW

This is a 5 state rule, including ResistantLife,Farespa,RotoHooks and Writers.
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@TABLE


n_states:5
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:rotate4reflect

var a={0,1,2,3,4}
var b={0,1,2,3,4}
var c={0,1,2,3,4}
var d={0,1,2,3,4}
var e={0,1,2,3,4}
var f={0,1,2,3,4}
var g={0,1,2,3,4}
var h={0,1,2,3,4}
var i={0,1,2,3,4}

# Birth
0,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
0,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,1
0,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,1
0,1,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,1
0,1,1,0,0,0,0,1,0,1
0,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1,1
0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,1
0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1
0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,0,1
0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1
0,1,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,1
0,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1
0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1
0,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,1,1
0,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1
0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1
0,2,2,2,0,0,0,0,0,2
0,2,2,0,2,0,0,0,0,2
0,2,2,0,0,2,0,0,0,2
0,2,2,0,0,0,2,0,0,2
0,2,2,0,0,0,0,2,0,2
0,2,2,0,0,0,0,0,2,2
0,2,0,2,0,2,0,0,0,2
0,2,0,2,0,0,2,0,0,2
0,2,0,0,2,0,2,0,0,2
0,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,0,2
0,2,2,0,2,0,0,2,0,2
0,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,2
0,2,2,2,2,2,0,0,0,2
0,2,2,2,2,0,2,0,0,2
0,2,2,2,2,0,0,2,0,2
0,2,2,2,2,0,0,0,2,2
0,2,2,2,0,2,2,0,0,2
0,2,2,2,0,2,0,2,0,2
0,2,2,0,2,2,2,0,0,2
0,2,2,0,2,2,0,2,0,2
0,2,2,0,2,0,2,2,0,2
0,2,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,2
0,3,3,3,0,0,0,0,0,3
0,3,3,0,3,0,0,0,0,3
0,3,3,0,0,3,0,0,0,3
0,3,3,0,0,0,3,0,0,3
0,3,3,0,0,0,0,3,0,3
0,3,3,0,0,0,0,0,3,3
0,3,0,3,0,3,0,0,0,3
0,3,0,3,0,0,3,0,0,3
0,3,0,0,3,0,3,0,0,3
0,0,3,0,3,0,3,0,0,3
0,3,3,0,3,0,3,0,0,3
0,3,3,0,3,0,0,3,0,3
0,3,3,0,0,3,3,0,0,3
0,0,3,0,3,0,3,0,3,3
0,4,0,4,0,0,0,0,0,4
0,4,0,0,4,0,0,0,0,4
0,4,0,0,0,4,0,0,0,4
0,0,4,0,4,0,0,0,0,4
0,0,4,0,0,0,4,0,0,4
0,4,4,4,0,0,0,0,0,4
0,4,4,0,0,0,0,4,0,4
0,4,0,4,0,4,0,0,0,4
0,4,0,4,0,0,4,0,0,4
0,4,0,0,4,0,4,0,0,4
0,0,4,0,4,0,4,0,0,4
0,0,4,0,4,0,4,0,4,4
0,4,4,4,4,4,4,0,0,4
0,4,4,4,4,4,0,4,0,4
0,4,4,4,4,0,4,4,0,4
0,4,4,4,4,0,4,0,4,4
0,4,4,4,0,4,4,4,0,4
0,4,4,0,4,4,4,0,4,4

# Survival
1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1
1,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,1
1,0,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,1
1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,1
1,1,1,0,0,0,0,1,0,1
1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1,1
1,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,1
1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1
1,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,0,1
1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1
2,2,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
2,2,0,2,0,0,0,0,0,2
2,2,0,0,2,0,0,0,0,2
2,2,0,0,0,2,0,0,0,2
2,0,2,0,2,0,0,0,0,2
2,0,2,0,0,0,2,0,0,2
2,2,2,2,0,0,0,0,0,2
2,2,2,0,0,0,0,0,2,2
2,2,0,2,0,2,0,0,0,2
2,2,0,2,0,0,2,0,0,2
2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,0,2
2,2,2,2,2,0,0,0,0,2
2,2,2,0,2,2,0,0,0,2
2,0,2,0,2,0,2,0,2,2
3,3,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,3
3,3,0,3,0,0,0,0,0,3
3,3,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,3
3,3,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,3
3,0,3,0,3,0,0,0,0,3
3,0,3,0,0,0,3,0,0,3
3,3,3,3,0,0,0,0,0,3
3,3,3,0,3,0,0,0,0,3
3,3,3,0,0,3,0,0,0,3
3,3,3,0,0,0,3,0,0,3
3,3,3,0,0,0,0,3,0,3
3,3,3,0,0,0,0,0,3,3
3,3,0,3,0,3,0,0,0,3
3,3,0,3,0,0,3,0,0,3
3,3,0,0,3,0,3,0,0,3
3,0,3,0,3,0,3,0,0,3
3,3,3,0,0,3,3,0,0,3
3,0,3,0,3,0,3,0,3,3
4,4,4,0,0,0,0,0,0,4
4,4,0,4,0,0,0,0,0,4
4,4,0,0,4,0,0,0,0,4
4,4,0,0,0,4,0,0,0,4
4,0,4,0,4,0,0,0,0,4
4,0,4,0,0,0,4,0,0,4
4,4,4,4,0,0,0,0,0,4
4,4,4,0,4,0,0,0,0,4
4,4,4,0,0,4,0,0,0,4
4,4,4,0,0,0,4,0,0,4
4,4,4,0,0,0,0,4,0,4
4,4,4,0,0,0,0,0,4,4
4,4,0,4,0,4,0,0,0,4
4,4,0,4,0,0,4,0,0,4
4,4,0,0,4,0,4,0,0,4
4,0,4,0,4,0,4,0,0,4

# Deaths
a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,0


@COLORS

1 255   0   0    (T   Red)
2  10 235  20    (RH  Lime)
3  50  50 255    (L   Blue)
4 255 255 255    (V   White)
Suggested by Hunting
Hunting wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 12:00 am
Tiny c/5 in RotoHooks:

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x = 13, y = 7, rule = B34ckyz/S234cz
3b2o3b2o$3bo5bo$2o9b2o$obo7bobo$2b2o2bo2b2o$5bobo$5b3o!
Let's imagine a war. Your weapons are the objects you discovered. Just like the apgsearch game. There are four parrell universes: R, F, H and W (stands for the four rules). Write the storyline yourself. I write down the first line with a wickstrecher in W.

I discovered 2c/5 in RotoHooks.

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x = 16, y = 20, rule = B34ckyz/S234cz
6bo2bo$3o2b2o2b2o2b3o$6bo2bo$2ob2obo2bob2ob2o$bob2o6b2obo$2b4o4b4o$2b
3o6b3o2$7b2o$b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$2bob8obo$6b4o$2bo3bo2bo3bo$6bo2bo$2b5o2b
5o$4bob4obo$4bo6bo$3bo2bo2bo2bo$3b3o4b3o$4bo6bo!
EDIT: c/3

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x = 24, y = 13, rule = B34ckyz/S234cz
15bobo3bobo$16b2o3b2o$15bo7bo$2o2bobo2b2o$b4ob4o6b2o3b2o2$bo7bo6bo5bo$
2bo2bo2bo6bo7bo$3b2ob2o7b4ob4o$4b3o9bo5bo$3bo3bo9bo3bo$4b3o11bobo$5bo
13bo!
c/4

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x = 53, y = 32, rule = B34ckyz/S234cz
43b2o3b2o$43b2o3b2o$43b3ob3o$24b2ob2o13bo2bobo2bo$25bobo14b3o3b3o$21bo
b7obo13b3o$21b3o5b3o13bobo$22b9o11bob2ob2obo$25b3o16bo3bo2$25bobo14b2o
5b2o$23bo5bo11bo2bo3bo2bo$23bobobobo12bobo3bobo$24bo3bo14b7o$46bo$23b
2o3b2o12b2o2bo2b2o$24b2ob2o12b2o7b2o2$23bo5bo13bo5bo2$2b2o3b2o14b3ob3o
13b3ob3o$b3o3b3o$b3o3b3o11b3o5b3o9b3o5b3o$bo7bo12b2o5b2o11b2o5b2o$22b
2o5b2o11b2o5b2o$obo5bobo10bob2o3b2obo9bob2o3b2obo$b2o5b2o10bo2bo5bo2bo
7bo2bo5bo2bo$bo7bo14b5o15b5o$o4bo4bo9bo2b3ob3o2bo7bo2b3ob3o2bo$obobobo
bobo10b3o5b3o9b3o5b3o$o3bobo3bo14bobo17bobo$2b3ob3o15b2ob2o15b2ob2o!
rules:
You can add rules to the rule table.
Don’t get too much(after the first page, not more than 20% of the whole pattern of the rule, for writers is below 25%)
(First Page not more than 200 cells once)
Rule modifier

B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k
b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8
B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8
B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by Hunting » April 14th, 2020, 2:13 am

A rainbow rule?

My typical crummy suggestion: L (LeapLife).

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by yujh » April 14th, 2020, 2:40 am

Hunting wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 2:13 am
A rainbow rule?

My typical crummy suggestion: L (LeapLife).
Well, I’ve thought about it, but it is too well studied.
Edit:
My rainbow rule contains LeapLife.
Will post after it’s done.
Rule modifier

B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k
b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8
B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8
B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by yujh » April 14th, 2020, 2:54 am

Lemme start

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 x = 59, y = 43, rule = RFHW
3D$3D8.D.D38.2A3.2D$5D41.2D4.A2.B.D$2.3D4.D3.D32.D2.2C.A.2B.D$2.3D17.
5D19.D.C.C.A2.B.2D$9.D.D10.D3.D19.D.C3.2A$25.2D19.D.2C$46.D$46.2D3$3.
2D8.D$.D2.D10.D$12.D10.D$D2.D10.D6.D3.D$2D$21.D3.D20$25.2C$24.C.C$24.
C$5.C18.3C$5.2C$6.2C$5.2C!
Rule modifier

B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k
b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8
B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8
B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by Hunting » April 14th, 2020, 3:02 am

Your weapons are the objects you discovered
Also I added the rule to LifeViewer

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by yujh » April 14th, 2020, 4:14 am

Hunting wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 3:02 am
Your weapons are the objects you discovered
Also I added the rule to LifeViewer
Oops! How can I add it to lifeviewer?
Rule modifier

B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k
b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8
B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8
B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by Hunting » April 14th, 2020, 6:24 am

You didn't discover the bookend or the wickstrecher. It's invalid to use objects discovered by others.

I haven't decided what to do with The objects that works in Life. @dvgrn (逃

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by yujh » April 14th, 2020, 7:26 am

Hunting wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 6:24 am
You didn't discover the bookend or the wickstrecher. It's invalid to use objects discovered by others.

I haven't decided what to do with The objects that works in Life. @dvgrn (逃
That’s a c/3 wickstretcher and a still life reaction->P2
Two things is kind of interacting with each other, If you have noticed.
Rule modifier

B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k
b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8
B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8
B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by Hunting » April 14th, 2020, 10:40 am

yujh wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 7:26 am
Hunting wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 6:24 am
You didn't discover the bookend or the wickstrecher. It's invalid to use objects discovered by others.

I haven't decided what to do with The objects that works in Life. @dvgrn (逃
That’s a c/3 wickstretcher and a still life reaction->P2
Two things is kind of interacting with each other, If you have noticed.
Firstly you didn't find the wickstretcher and as the four rules are parrell universes it's impossible to have different rule cells as one object.

And then... you have nothing now except a few medium-sized wickstrechers (the basic c/3 one is definitely not one of them) in Writers, a few spaceships and a surprisingly new diagonal glider.

You'll have to perform the wickstrecher plus SL reaction by producing the reactants with your own discovery, and the SL must be a pure-writer etc. object. There's no point to make discoveries in the game rainbow rule - this game exists to encourage discoveries in the four rules.

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by BokaBB » April 18th, 2020, 5:46 pm

Sounds good!Do you want to play,friends?
Have a good day!

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by BokaBB » April 19th, 2020, 4:00 am

Hunting wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 10:40 am
yujh wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 7:26 am
Hunting wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 6:24 am
You didn't discover the bookend or the wickstrecher. It's invalid to use objects discovered by others.

I haven't decided what to do with The objects that works in Life. @dvgrn (逃
That’s a c/3 wickstretcher and a still life reaction->P2
Two things is kind of interacting with each other, If you have noticed.
Firstly you didn't find the wickstretcher and as the four rules are parrell universes it's impossible to have different rule cells as one object.

And then... you have nothing now except a few medium-sized wickstrechers (the basic c/3 one is definitely not one of them) in Writers, a few spaceships and a surprisingly new diagonal glider.

You'll have to perform the wickstrecher plus SL reaction by producing the reactants with your own discovery, and the SL must be a pure-writer etc. object. There's no point to make discoveries in the game rainbow rule - this game exists to encourage discoveries in the four rules.
This is not true. In one of my games (Golly is not a game,while that is) with celular automata I was drawing with Conway's game of life and HighLife in the same moment and it sometimes was possible to see bicolour objects.
Have a good day!

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by Hunting » April 19th, 2020, 4:04 am

BokaBB wrote:
April 19th, 2020, 4:00 am
Hunting wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 10:40 am
yujh wrote:
April 14th, 2020, 7:26 am


That’s a c/3 wickstretcher and a still life reaction->P2
Two things is kind of interacting with each other, If you have noticed.
Firstly you didn't find the wickstretcher and as the four rules are parrell universes it's impossible to have different rule cells as one object.

And then... you have nothing now except a few medium-sized wickstrechers (the basic c/3 one is definitely not one of them) in Writers, a few spaceships and a surprisingly new diagonal glider.

You'll have to perform the wickstrecher plus SL reaction by producing the reactants with your own discovery, and the SL must be a pure-writer etc. object.
This is not true. In one of my games (Golly is not a game,while that is) with celular automata I was drawing with Conway's game of life and HighLife in the same moment and it sometimes was possible to see bicolor objects.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
But it's true in this game. It's invalid to have bicolor objects despite they exists. There's no point to make discoveries in the game rainbow rule - this game exists to encourage discoveries in the four rules.

Is that game The Powder Toy?

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by BokaBB » April 19th, 2020, 4:31 am

How you guessed?Yes. I first came here from it. At least we can advertise it. However,I am rarely now active there (now mostly here). How are you called it TPT (commonly used abbreviation)?If you are well known,I might know who are you. My username there is slightly different than one that I use here,but is nearly the same.
Really good game,yes?
Have a good day!

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Re: Wars between different rules

Post by unname4798 » July 22nd, 2023, 10:56 am

1) Life (#FFFFFF)
2) HighLife (#FF00FF)
3) tlife (#0000FF)
4) thighlife (#00FFFF)
5) ResistantLife (#CCCCCC)
6) Farespa (#808080)
7) RotoHooks (#008000)
8) Writers (#80FFFF)
9) LeapLife (#00FF80)
10) B3/S23-a5 (#B0B0B0)
11) B3/S23-a6 (#999999)
12-state rule.
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