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Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 9:02 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Ok let's make common words:
yes = ta
no = ge
and = ay
but = vel
so = kar
to as in towards, for = da
from = get
beacause = karget = kar + get
at = pes

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 9:07 am
by BokaBB
Animal names:
Cat: mau
Dog:arv
Bird:fin
Cow:mok
Horse:nist
Lion:kren
Snake:ses
Frog:rek
Bear:gron
I tried to make them onomatopoeic but modern.
I criticize your word for because since it is also used in other means than so from.
I will leave number reform to others.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 9:28 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
BokaBB wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 9:07 am
I criticize your word for because since it is also used in other means than so from.
What other meanings?

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 9:31 am
by BokaBB
It is because he is evil.

Not a sentence to you, just an example. Because means due to some reason. In the last sentence he is not said to be from some place. At least this is how I understand.
Have a good day!

BokaB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 9:36 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
So from the rain, we couldn't go outside.

"So" implies some cause. "From" implies some sort of source.

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 9:43 am
by BokaBB
Schiaparelliorbust wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 9:36 am
So from the rain, we couldn't go outside.

"So" implies some cause. "From" implies some sort of source.
Okay,I accept that word.
Can you make new number system?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 9:50 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Thanks for accepting it! I know this will be a little hard but I don't think the language should be base-10. Many languages don't use base-10 and it would be lazy and unrealistic of us to assume it should use base-10. Klingon has that problem.

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:05 am
by BokaBB
Schiaparelliorbust wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 9:50 am
Thanks for accepting it! I know this will be a little hard but I don't think the language should be base-10. Many languages don't use base-10 and it would be lazy and unrealistic of us to assume it should use base-10. Klingon has that problem.
Not sure. However,base 10 is natural since we have 10 fingers with which we counted in the past (and sometimes even today).
We should ask someone else about what it thinks.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:09 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Quoting linguistics stack exchange:
Orokaiva (Trans-New Guinea): digit-tally system
Fas (Kwomtari): binary system (base 2)
Pazeh (Austronesian): quinary (base 5)
Amis (Austronesian): decimal (base 10)
Ron (West Chadic): duodecimal (base 12)
Barapasi (East Geelvink Bay): vigesimal (base 20)
Meyah (East Bird Head-Sentani): mixed-quinary/vigesimal
Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4bmZ1gRqCc

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:10 am
by yujh
BokaBB wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 10:05 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 9:50 am
Thanks for accepting it! I know this will be a little hard but I don't think the language should be base-10. Many languages don't use base-10 and it would be lazy and unrealistic of us to assume it should use base-10. Klingon has that problem.
Not sure. However,base 10 is natural since we have 10 fingers with which we counted in the past (and sometimes even today).
We should ask someone else about what it thinks.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Agree.

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:12 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Ok what base? I doubt >20 would be practical.
Edit: Sexagesimal (base-60) was used by the Sumerians and Babylonians and 60 has a lot of factors making decimals easy to write.

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:14 am
by BokaBB
Not sure,but if we pick a big one,we need some sub-bases.
I recommend 10 or 5,or maybe 20.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:21 am
by BokaBB
I propose -om as the possesion suffix or -m if the word ends with a vowel.
Examples:Ngongom mau. Pviam arv.
Also,in pwia we will replace w with v.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:34 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
BokaBB wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 10:21 am
I propose -om as the possesion suffix or -m if the word ends with a vowel.
Examples:Ngongom mau. Pviam arv.
Also,in pwia we will replace w with v.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
I like that! I think that I and me, you and you (doesn't work in English with "you"), he and him, she and her, they and them should be separate. Also, should plural you be a formal you too or not?

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:47 am
by BokaBB
Plural will be different,but I leave that to you.
Pvia-Pvam
This is used as her and him when not talking about possesions. Ngong and Shyu will be used in the same form.
I made a post with mistakes but deleted it,hope you haven't seen it.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:49 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
BokaBB did you delete your post?

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:51 am
by BokaBB
Schiaparelliorbust wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 10:49 am
BokaBB did you delete your post?
I did since I changed the possesion suffix accidentally with prononouns.
I backed the rest about him and her when not talking about possesions.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 10:54 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Should we make new pronouns for plural?

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 11:00 am
by BokaBB
Yes. Can you do it?
Feelings:
Happiness:Fin
Sadness:Gol
Angriness:Ebut
Nervousness:Eb
Love:Finut
Tiredness:Kop
Sleep:Koput
Bed:Kope
Suffix -ut intensifies things and -e makes things that are used for a certain job.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 11:07 am
by BokaBB
Should sleep as a verb and as a noun be different or not?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 11:08 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
BokaBB wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 11:00 am
Yes. Can you do it?
Feelings:
Happiness:Fin
Sadness:Gol
Angriness:Ebut
Nervousness:Eb
Love:Finut
Tiredness:Kop
Sleep,to sleep:Koput
Bed:Kope
Suffix -ut intensifies things and -e makes things that are used for a certain job.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Okay I will.
sala = we/us
zad = plural you (like I)
zed = plural you (like me)
shen = they/them

Edit:
BokaBB wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 11:07 am
Should sleep as a verb and as a noun be different or not?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Certainly yes but but with different suffixes based on a common word.

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 11:17 am
by BokaBB
I propose changes:
I don't want to distinguish I and me.
Shen-Shenam(them)
This is penetrating into case system. How much we need?
In Serbian we have 7,but here I don't want more than 4.
Please make a word for dream from the same root as sleep.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 11:32 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
BokaBB wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 11:17 am
I don't want to distinguish I and me.
BokaBB
I think we already didn't distinguish them.
BokaBB wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 11:17 am
This is penetrating into case system. How much we need?
In Serbian we have 7,but here I don't want more than 4.
BokaBB
Case system?

thought = resh
think = reshad
dream = koputresh
-ad makes a verb out of a noun.

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 11:38 am
by wzkchem5
BokaBB wrote:
October 9th, 2020, 8:24 am
wzchem5's work is probably not too suitable for a modern language (it sounds like caveman's language).
I would like SVO order.
The rest others should decide. At the end,I want this to be a combined project where everyone has left something.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
This is intended. The pronounciation <-> meaning mapping is to a large extent arbitrary, but pronounciations that do mimic natural sounds related to the meaning are slightly better than those that do not. So a rational approach would be to maximize the resemblance between the pronounciation and a natural sound that is related to its meaning.

Re: Let's create a language!

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 11:39 am
by BokaBB
I had -eo in the mind for infinitive. I think it sounds better.
Cases are things like nominative,genitive,accusative,locative etc.
Have a good day!

BokaBB