Let's create a language!

[BokaBB]

A mix of all I think.
Please help the Exponentially Growing Thread grow!
Have a good day!

BokaBB

The dialects should be mutually intelligible, at least ones in close geographical proximity. You can make a map of a fictional land where Komal is spoken if you like. You can put natural obstacles like mountains or rivers to separate communities.

Some languages have mutually unintelligible dialects,but they are a group of languages then.
We don't really need map I think. We should try without it first.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Some languages have mutually unintelligible dialects,but they are a group of languages then.
We don't really need map I think. We should try without it first.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

It's called a dialect continuum then. Dialects change gradually and are usually mutually intelligible close by, but aren't when very far away. I'm pretty sure Chinese is like that.

[BokaBB]

Let's make phonotactics first instead.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[fluffykitty]

I made a phonotactics already. viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4772&hilit=phonota ... 50#p109359 with some extra details on the next page.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Let's make phonotactics first instead.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

What consonant (clusters) do you think should be valid syllable onsets and codas?

[BokaBB]

Let's make phonotactics first instead.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

What consonant (clusters) do you think should be valid syllable onsets and codas?

All used so far. I don't want any combinations of fluid vowels or hard consonants to fuse into one,but instead to see one or more of them being removed.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[BokaBB]

Let's make phonotactics first instead.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

What consonant (clusters) do you think should be valid syllable onsets and codas?

All used so far. I don't want any combinations of fluid vowels or hard consonants to fuse into one,but instead to see one or more of them being removed.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

What consonant (clusters) do you think should be valid syllable onsets and codas?

All used so far. I don't want any combinations of fluid vowels or hard consonants to fuse into one,but instead to see one or more of them being removed.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

I don't think that's enough. We need more. Please post all used consonant clusters. I know there's <st> and <pv>.

[BokaBB]

What consonant (clusters) do you think should be valid syllable onsets and codas?

All used so far. I don't want any combinations of fluid vowels or hard consonants to fuse into one,but instead to see one or more of them being removed.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

I don't think that's enough. We need more. Please post all used consonant clusters. I know there's <st> and <pv>.

fluffykitty has done that for you at the ,,mess around here" subsheet.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[BokaBB]

Please don't forget Komal.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Please don't forget Komal.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

I propose allophones for all unagreed vowel sounds. We should honestly start working on grammar if we're going to get anywhere.

[BokaBB]

Please don't forget Komal.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

I propose allophones for all unagreed vowel sounds. We should honestly start working on grammar if we're going to get anywhere.

Let's start grammar!I won't be avaiable for a hour or two or so,please begin without me.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Let's start grammar!I won't be avaiable for a hour or two or so,please begin without me.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

Ok. I will start simple though. I will edit this post with my proposed grammar.
Edit: Word order is SVO. Adjectives come after nouns. There are 3 different evidential past tenses: Seeing, hearing from someone else and inferring. There are four cases: nominative, accusative, dative and genitive. There are no auxiliary verbs. Do you want converbs? They are super useful. Look it up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDCA4N_W1f8&t=504s

[BokaBB]

I am back.
Please don't change any existing grammar.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I am back.
Please don't change any existing grammar.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

What grammar do we have anyway? From what I can see on the spreadsheet, there are only some suffixes. I don't think I that changed anything.

[BokaBB]

I am back.
Please don't change any existing grammar.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

What grammar do we have anyway? From what I can see on the spreadsheet, there are only some suffixes. I don't think I that changed anything.

Adjectives should be before nouns. I also don't want to make Komal too complex with the last two.
Please don't change anything existing. Remember,I don't have any rule here,just want to keep Komal easy.
Also,we have preffixes too.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBb

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Adjectives should be before nouns. I also don't want to make Komal too complex with the last two.
Please don't change anything existing. Remember,I don't have any rule here,just want to keep Komal easy.
Also,we have preffixes too.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBb

Did you watch the video on converbs? fluffykitty had posted it on the other language thread. Are you okay with the cases? Many languages have them. I think there should also be locative.

[BokaBB]

Adjectives should be before nouns. I also don't want to make Komal too complex with the last two.
Please don't change anything existing. Remember,I don't have any rule here,just want to keep Komal easy.
Also,we have preffixes too.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBb

Did you watch the video on converbs? fluffykitty had posted it on the other language thread. Are you okay with the cases? Many languages have them. I think there should also be locative.

English has cases:he/him,she/her,they/them. Shen - shenam was taken because I wanted to implement that segment,but I really don't support anything else.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

English has cases:he/him,she/her,they/them. Shen - shenam was taken because I wanted to implement that segment,but I really don't support anything else.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

Well English has cases really only for those and not anything else. There is also who-whom. Other languages with cases have them for most nouns and related parts of speech. What was Shen - shenam?

[BokaBB]

English has cases:he/him,she/her,they/them. Shen - shenam was taken because I wanted to implement that segment,but I really don't support anything else.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

Well English has cases really only for those and not anything else. There is also who-whom. Other languages with cases have them for most nouns and related parts of speech. What was Shen - shenam?

They - them.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Moosey]

svo word order bad

[Schiaparelliorbust]

They - them.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

1) Did you watch the video?
2)What else do you think about my grammar ideas? Be specific.
3)Please look at your other threads.

svo word order bad

Why?

[BokaBB]

svo word order bad

Why?
Please buy some Durian!
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

svo word order bad

Why?
Please buy some Durian!
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

I think it's because of ]small Veblen ordinal.

SVO is the best,don't change that.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

SVO is t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶m̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶v̶e̶b̶l̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶r̶d̶i̶n̶a̶l̶ inferior to VSO. It's a fact. VSO makes the most sense imo since it's structured like a mathematical function:: eat(I,apple); therefore VSO is the best.

You didn't express your opinions too much on my grammar ideas.

[fluffykitty]

I posted a verb system here. I'm open to a variant word order, but if we use one with the verb not in the middle then we need at least nominative/accusative cases because I want to do passives with verbs with no subject.