Let's create a good language!

[Hunting]

Going to read the transcripts later.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I don't think so.

Should we have other particles?

[fluffykitty]

Maybe, if we can figure out what they would do.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Maybe, if we can figure out what they would do.

What kind of meanings would they have? The Wikipedia page on particles has a whole part on Turkish particles. It says they have no meaning on their own, but to me it doesn't seem like that. Maybe we could use some meanings from those?

[fluffykitty]

If you can think of anything, then go ahead. Also, there's a list of example sentences here which tests a lot of grammatical features. We should try to translate those.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

If you can think of anything, then go ahead. Also, there's a list of example sentences here which tests a lot of grammatical features. We should try to translate those.

I noticed that a lot of those sentences use adverbs. We should try and make them. We already have converb adverbs, but we also need a way to make them from adjectives.

[fluffykitty]

Yep. Does <-amo> sound good?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Yep. Does <-amo> sound good?

Yes, though do we even have any adjectives yet?

[fluffykitty]

...uh...how about <zlink> "gooey"?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

...uh...how about <zlink> "gooey"?

Ok.
<kafma> <slow>
<lesni> <fast>
<bylk> <big>
<tysef> <small>
<zlinkamo> <gooeyly>
Is <gooeyly> even a word?
How did we not even think of adjectives until now?
Edit: I don't think <bylk> works, so if it doesn't then it is <bysk>.

[Hunting]

<rank> - good

[Schiaparelliorbust]

<rank> - good

Ok then edible is also <rank>.

[Hunting]

<rank> - good

Ok then edible is also <rank>.

Why do they share a word?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Ok then edible is also <rank>.

Why do they share a word?

If we're moving on to syntax and stuff, here's some things I think we should do:

• Make the word for "good" the same as the word for "edible" (and maybe have more food metaphors while we're at it)
• SOV word order
• Split case marking across determiner and noun (like in German)
• Use auxiliary verbs
• Allow omission of subject pronouns by marking person and number on verbs
• Sandhi with grammatical affixes
• Affixes for deriving agent nouns and similar from verbs (eg English "-er", "-ee", but for more arguments like "receiver", "tool", "source", etc)

[Hunting]

Ok then edible is also <rank>.

Why do they share a word?

If we're moving on to syntax and stuff, here's some things I think we should do:

• Make the word for "good" the same as the word for "edible" (and maybe have more food metaphors while we're at it)
• SOV word order
• Split case marking across determiner and noun (like in German)
• Use auxiliary verbs
• Allow omission of subject pronouns by marking person and number on verbs
• Sandhi with grammatical affixes
• Affixes for deriving agent nouns and similar from verbs (eg English "-er", "-ee", but for more arguments like "receiver", "tool", "source", etc)

Why js it so though?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Why js it so though?

I have absolutely no idea.

[fluffykitty]

Why js it so though?

I have absolutely no idea.

It's funnier that way.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

It's funnier that way.

Fine then. I think we should have two different words for lose. One for "lost my keys" and the other for "lose a war". All English, Turkish, and French have a single word for both meanings, and I don't really know why.

[Hunting]

It's funnier that way.

Fine then. I think we should have two different words for lose. One for "lost my keys" and the other for "lose a war". All English, Turkish, and French have a single word for both meanings, and I don't really know why.

<hyx> -lose (as in a chess game).

[Schiaparelliorbust]

<hyx> -lose (as in a chess game).

I'm having trouble pronouncing this mainly because I cannot properly pronounce <h> (/ç/). Can you pronounce it? I'm trying to pronounce it by saying /j/ and then pronouncing something like /ʃ/.
Edit: Infinitive is -(m)ai so "to lose" is <hyxai>.

[fluffykitty]

I learned it by doing /hj/.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I learned it by doing /hj/.

That kind of sounds different from /ç/. There's still an audible /j/ at the end too.

[Hunting]

<hyx> -lose (as in a chess game).

I'm having trouble pronouncing this mainly because I cannot properly pronounce <h> (/ç/). Can you pronounce it? I'm trying to pronounce it by saying /j/ and then pronouncing something like /ʃ/.
Edit: Infinitive is -(m)ai so "to lose" is <hyxai>.

I can't reliably pronounce it - maybe a Goodlanguage native speaker can :))

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I can't reliably pronounce it - maybe a Goodlanguage native speaker can )

Is that what we're calling it now? Also, do you have any ideas for vocabulary or really anything else?

[fluffykitty]

<hyx> -lose (as in a chess game).

I'm having trouble pronouncing this mainly because I cannot properly pronounce <h> (/ç/). Can you pronounce it? I'm trying to pronounce it by saying /j/ and then pronouncing something like /ʃ/.
Edit: Infinitive is -(m)ai so "to lose" is <hyxai>.

I can't reliably pronounce it - maybe a Goodlanguage native speaker can )

Another way to do it is to start with /j/, close it until you hear fricative turbulence, then turn off voicing.

I can't reliably pronounce it - maybe a Goodlanguage native speaker can )

Is that what we're calling it now? Also, do you have any ideas for vocabulary or really anything else?

I've been calling it that for a while (or at least "the good language").