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Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by MathAndCode » March 21st, 2021, 6:54 pm

I feel like there should be a three-glider ship-tie synthesis. I know that ship-ties typically form in pairs (from fleet predecessors), but it seems like there should be at least one three-glider collision that produces a fleet predecessor and an object or active region that annihilates one of the ship-ties. After all, there's an analogous three-glider collision for a half-bakery, and half-bakeries are rarer than fleets.

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$obo2b2o$b2o4bo$bo2$9b2o$8b2o$10bo!
Also, making a loaf and a P spark shouldn't require five gliders.
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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by goldenratio » March 21st, 2021, 8:40 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
March 21st, 2021, 6:54 pm
I feel like there should be a three-glider ship-tie synthesis.
I'm sorry, but no, we have basically enumerated all 3-glider collisions and we can be 99.99% confident that there is no 3G ship tie.
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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by MathAndCode » March 21st, 2021, 9:03 pm

goldenratio wrote:
March 21st, 2021, 8:40 pm
I'm sorry, but no, we have basically enumerated all 3-glider collisions and we can be 99.99% confident that there is no 3G ship tie.
I accept that, but it still seems like probabilistically, if someone re-rolled the pseudorandomness dice for glider syntheses) there would be a three-glider synthesis for a ship-tie. (Please don't do that, by the way. I like the two-glider fishhook and three-glider switch engine.)
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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by wwei47 » March 21st, 2021, 9:15 pm

Don't you love it when you find a transparent catalyst?
Help me find high-period c/2 technology!
My guide: https://bit.ly/3uJtzu9
My c/2 tech collection: https://bit.ly/3qUJg0u
Overview of periods: https://bit.ly/3LwE0I5
Most wanted periods: 76,116

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by Moosey » March 21st, 2021, 9:30 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
March 21st, 2021, 9:03 pm
It still seems like probabilistically, if someone re-rolled the pseudorandomness dice for glider syntheses) there would be a three-glider synthesis for a ship-tie. (Please don't do that, by the way. I like the two-glider fishhook and three-glider switch engine.)
Idk, a 2G tub or 2G ship or 2G LWSS for that matter (which is only 1 object rarer than the fishhook) would be nice
a 2G pulsar would also be a plausible alternative I suppose
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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by MathAndCode » March 21st, 2021, 10:14 pm

Moosey wrote:
March 21st, 2021, 9:30 pm
Idk, a 2G tub or 2G ship or 2G LWSS for that matter (which is only 1 object rarer than the fishhook) would be nice
Yes, but fishhooks are used in patterns disproportionately often because they are useful catalysts. If there were a census of most common patterns in RLEs (in B3S23), it would probably look something like this:
  1. Block
  2. Fishhook
  3. Glider
  4. Herschel
  5. Tub
  6. Boat
  7. Eater 2
  8. Large, possibly welded, catalyst
  9. XWSS
  10. Transparent beehive
This list is partially but not completely a joke, and it may be influenced by the fact that I have done a lot of work on conduits.
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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular [automata] but otherwise random

Post by GUYTU6J » March 22nd, 2021, 5:41 am

I saw a post in the OCA DOTY 2020 voting thread regarding me:
Hunting wrote:
March 22nd, 2021, 12:15 am
Also, one thing I always wanted to point out is a rule's creator should not own a rule. People who explored it should. Otherwise like what GUYTU6J once said, one could trivially own many rules by making a large list of INT rules, which is ridiculous.
For reference, that statement was here. Speaking of large list of INT rules, I'm reminded of Prof. Emmanuel Sapin's alien gun collection; is there an easier available list of the 15,000+ INT rules in the collection, or some Python function to scan the RLEs?

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Just realize that one of the entries from Naszvadi uses a rule I discovered but didn't bother to look into. Also, I became kind of shy towards the activity after seeing my 2019 entry on place, so I didn't advertise my own OCA discoveries as much as before. A consequence is that my Takagi function growth pattern — which was discovered in 2020 and could be slightly more interesting than the entry above — is forgotten. I don't regret, though, so just let the voting go like now.

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by wwei47 » March 22nd, 2021, 6:24 pm

I accidentally led Ampere on a pointless goose chase for a 2c/3 then realized that I had somehow accidentally typed B26/S12 and not B26/S23. Sorry, Ampere.
EDIT: The P41 wick works with S5e (And S4c). Not that it helps.

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x = 21, y = 41, rule = B3/S234c5e
2bo7bo7bo$2b3o4bobo4b3o$5bo4bo4bo$4b2o9b2o2$6b3o3b3o$6bobo3bobo$9bobo$
4b2obobobobob2o$3bo3bobobobo3bo$9bobo$5b2o2bobo2b2o$5bo3bobo3bo$9bobo
2$8b2ob2o$4b3o7b3o$6bo7bo3$3o15b3o3$6bo7bo$4b3o7b3o$8b2ob2o2$9bobo$5bo
3bobo3bo$5b2o2bobo2b2o$9bobo$3bo3bobobobo3bo$4b2obobobobob2o$9bobo$6bo
bo3bobo$6b3o3b3o2$4b2o9b2o$5bo4bo4bo$2b3o4bobo4b3o$2bo7bo7bo!
Help me find high-period c/2 technology!
My guide: https://bit.ly/3uJtzu9
My c/2 tech collection: https://bit.ly/3qUJg0u
Overview of periods: https://bit.ly/3LwE0I5
Most wanted periods: 76,116

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular automata but otherwise random

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » March 29th, 2021, 5:52 am

wwei47 wrote:
March 22nd, 2021, 6:24 pm
I accidentally led Ampere on a pointless goose chase for a 2c/3 then realized that I had somehow accidentally typed B26/S12 and not B26/S23. Sorry, Ampere.
EDIT: The P41 wick works with S5e (And S4c). Not that it helps.

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x = 21, y = 41, rule = B3/S234c5e
2bo7bo7bo$2b3o4bobo4b3o$5bo4bo4bo$4b2o9b2o2$6b3o3b3o$6bobo3bobo$9bobo$
4b2obobobobob2o$3bo3bobobobo3bo$9bobo$5b2o2bobo2b2o$5bo3bobo3bo$9bobo
2$8b2ob2o$4b3o7b3o$6bo7bo3$3o15b3o3$6bo7bo$4b3o7b3o$8b2ob2o2$9bobo$5bo
3bobo3bo$5b2o2bobo2b2o$9bobo$3bo3bobobobo3bo$4b2obobobobob2o$9bobo$6bo
bo3bobo$6b3o3b3o2$4b2o9b2o$5bo4bo4bo$2b3o4bobo4b3o$2bo7bo7bo!
Oh, no, my previous account got hacked and xs4_33'd.
And all my posts disappeared except for a thread that I didn't actually post.
Could you show me the links to my previous posts?
My signature disappeared. My "location" was changed.
I had to make a new account named after Gabriel's p138.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B3/S23-a
2o$2o!

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!
I have reduced the glider cost of quadratic growth to eight and probably to seven. Looking for conduits...

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular automata but otherwise random

Post by {censored} » March 29th, 2021, 5:53 am

ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
March 29th, 2021, 5:52 am
wwei47 wrote:
March 22nd, 2021, 6:24 pm
I accidentally led Ampere on a pointless goose chase for a 2c/3 then realized that I had somehow accidentally typed B26/S12 and not B26/S23. Sorry, Ampere.
EDIT: The P41 wick works with S5e (And S4c). Not that it helps.

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x = 21, y = 41, rule = B3/S234c5e
2bo7bo7bo$2b3o4bobo4b3o$5bo4bo4bo$4b2o9b2o2$6b3o3b3o$6bobo3bobo$9bobo$
4b2obobobobob2o$3bo3bobobobo3bo$9bobo$5b2o2bobo2b2o$5bo3bobo3bo$9bobo
2$8b2ob2o$4b3o7b3o$6bo7bo3$3o15b3o3$6bo7bo$4b3o7b3o$8b2ob2o2$9bobo$5bo
3bobo3bo$5b2o2bobo2b2o$9bobo$3bo3bobobobo3bo$4b2obobobobob2o$9bobo$6bo
bo3bobo$6b3o3b3o2$4b2o9b2o$5bo4bo4bo$2b3o4bobo4b3o$2bo7bo7bo!
Oh, no, my previous account got hacked and xs4_33'd.
And all my posts disappeared except for a thread that I didn't actually post.
Could you show me the links to my previous posts?
My signature disappeared. My "location" was changed.
I had to make a new account named after Gabriel's p138.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B3/S23-a
2o$2o!
Seems like you are indeed him.
Hello!I am {censored}. I like doing {censored},{censored} and sometimes also {censored}. I live in {censored}.
Every day things are heating up more and more.
We must fight for the future of The Sandbox together!

Also,{censored}.

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular automata but otherwise random

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » March 29th, 2021, 7:12 am

{censored} wrote:
March 29th, 2021, 5:53 am
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
March 29th, 2021, 5:52 am
wwei47 wrote:
March 22nd, 2021, 6:24 pm
I accidentally led Ampere on a pointless goose chase for a 2c/3 then realized that I had somehow accidentally typed B26/S12 and not B26/S23. Sorry, Ampere.
EDIT: The P41 wick works with S5e (And S4c). Not that it helps.

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x = 21, y = 41, rule = B3/S234c5e
3o$o$bo!
Oh, no, my previous account got hacked and xs4_33'd.
And all my posts disappeared except for a thread that I didn't actually post.
Could you show me the links to my previous posts?
My signature disappeared. My "location" was changed.
I had to make a new account named after Gabriel's p138.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B3/S23-a
2o$2o!
Seems like you are indeed him.
Unknown natural c/2 orthogonal spaceship in B3/S23-a:

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x = 32, y = 27, rule = B3/S23-a
4b4obo2b3ob4ob9obo$3bob2o2bobobob2obobob4o2bo$4b2obo2bo4b3o2b2ob4obob
2o$b2o2bo7bobobobobo3b2o2bobo$b5o2b2obob3obo2bo3bob2o3bo$2bo3bo2bob3o
4b2ob3ob2o2b3o$bo2bo3b2o3bobo2b2obob3obob2o$o3b3o4bob4obobobo2b2o3b2o
$bo2bo5bob3obobo6bo2b4o$2bo2b2o2bob2o3bo2bo3bobo2bo2bo$3b2obobo2b2ob2o
bo2b5ob3obo$obob4o2bo3b3o3bo2b2ob4obo$obo4bob2obob3ob4obo$obob2ob2ob4o
bo2b4ob2ob2obobo$4ob3o2b6o3b3obo3bo$bobo2bobo2bo3b2o2b3o4b3obo$2b3ob4o
bo2b3o2b2obobo2b2obo$bo7b2ob4obo4bobo2b4o$2ob3o2b2obo3b2obobobobobobo
bo$o5bobobo3b2ob3o2b2ob2ob3o$o2bob3o2b5o2b2o3b2ob3ob2o$2obo2bo3b4o3bo
3bobo4bobo$o2bo3b2ob3o2b2o2b2o4b3o$2b9obobo3bo5b3o4bo$o3bo2bo4bo5bobo
2bo2b3ob2o$bo2bo9bob2o4b4o3b3o$2bo4bob2obo2bo4b2obobob2obo!
EDIT: Turns out that it was the B-heptomino

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!
I have reduced the glider cost of quadratic growth to eight and probably to seven. Looking for conduits...

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by PkmnQ » March 29th, 2021, 7:35 am

I am currently apgsearching Hillstretcher, and it keeps killing itself because the soups last too long (I think)

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Linear-growth pattern detected: yl12_1_24_d3f2f552bb0e2b2f2390f26382ee5cc9
Linear-growth pattern detected: yl6_1_12_883b84a238bf2f6cae7d279edca5c43d
Linear-growth pattern detected: yl6_1_18_c08d3abf3890bf255265d50f6ec278b0
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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by PkmnQ » March 29th, 2021, 10:12 am

I tried to make Hillstretcher able to have gliders (it failed, S3q makes it explode but if you exclude S3q you can't have hillstretchers) and I managed to end up at LeapLife with S4i added. I ran a soup, and

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2n3/S23-q4i
b3o$ob2o$4o$bo!

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular [automata] but otherwise random

Post by GUYTU6J » April 10th, 2021, 12:31 pm

The MCell built-in General binary rule "LogicRule" is intended to be B2ae/S in Hensel notation, as can be derived from an ancient website logic-ca.com. The site has long been down, and the following archive of contents is the most recent one I could find on Wayback Machine:
logic-ca.com_2005Feb05.rar
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I think Logic Rule may worth an LifeWiki OCA article, for the sake of these early logic signal circuitry demonstrations.

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » June 19th, 2021, 2:52 am

Stroop test (if you don't know what it means, search for it on Wikipedia. This test is for telling if you are an extreme LifeEnthusiast.)

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x = 28, y = 11, rule = 12ColorMarkedLife
E7.O.O4.W2.W.W2.2I.I$E.E.E3.3O.O2.2W2.W3.I.2I$2.E.E5.O.O2.W2.3W3.I.2I
$3E.E2.3O2.O2.W.W.2W2.I.I.I$4E3.2O.2O3.4W.W3.I.I2$A2.A3.2R6.K.2K3.O2.
O.O$5A2.R.2R4.3K4.2O2.O$2.3A3.3R4.2K.K3.O2.3O$.2A.A2.R.2R4.4K3.O.O.2O
$A.2A4.R.R4.K.2K3.4O.O!

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!
I have reduced the glider cost of quadratic growth to eight and probably to seven. Looking for conduits...

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by Citation needed » June 20th, 2021, 12:59 am

ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
June 19th, 2021, 2:52 am
Stroop test (if you don't know what it means, search for it on Wikipedia. This test is for telling if you are an extreme LifeEnthusiast.)

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x = 28, y = 11, rule = 12ColorMarkedLife
E7.O.O4.W2.W.W2.2I.I$E.E.E3.3O.O2.2W2.W3.I.2I$2.E.E5.O.O2.W2.3W3.I.2I
$3E.E2.3O2.O2.W.W.2W2.I.I.I$4E3.2O.2O3.4W.W3.I.I2$A2.A3.2R6.K.2K3.O2.
O.O$5A2.R.2R4.3K4.2O2.O$2.3A3.3R4.2K.K3.O2.3O$.2A.A2.R.2R4.4K3.O.O.2O
$A.2A4.R.R4.K.2K3.4O.O!
This is not a Stroop test.

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by MathAndCode » June 20th, 2021, 11:13 pm

Citation needed wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 12:59 am
This is not a Stroop test.
ColorfulGalaxy likes to use apgcodes for non-periodic patterns a lot. (I used repeated zeros instead of letters near the end of the alphabet in order to make word separation easier and made the vertical gap larger in order to prevent the second line from being skewed vertically.)
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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by Citation needed » June 21st, 2021, 1:42 am

MathAndCode wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 11:13 pm
Citation needed wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 12:59 am
This is not a Stroop test.
ColorfulGalaxy likes to use apgcodes for non-periodic patterns a lot. (I used repeated zeros instead of letters near the end of the alphabet in order to make word separation easier and made the vertical gap larger in order to prevent the second line from being skewed vertically.)
What apgcode?
Did you mean that non-periodic patterns don't have apgcodes?

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by MathAndCode » June 21st, 2021, 1:44 pm

Citation needed wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 1:42 am
What apgcode?
I linked it.
Citation needed wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 1:42 am
Did you mean that non-periodic patterns don't have apgcodes?
They don't have apgcodes in the traditional sense, but it's possible to get Catagolue to display them by using xp0, xs0, xa0, xb0, etc….
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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by Citation needed » June 21st, 2021, 11:24 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 1:44 pm
Citation needed wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 1:42 am
What apgcode?
I linked it.
Citation needed wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 1:42 am
Did you mean that non-periodic patterns don't have apgcodes?
They don't have apgcodes in the traditional sense, but it's possible to get Catagolue to display them by using xp0, xs0, xa0, xb0, etc….
Then why did ColorfulGabrielsp138 call it "Stroop test"?
It isn't a Stroop test.

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by MathAndCode » June 21st, 2021, 11:58 pm

Citation needed wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 11:24 pm
It isn't a Stroop test.
The words in the apgcode appear to be color names.
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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » June 22nd, 2021, 2:34 am

MathAndCode wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 1:44 pm
Citation needed wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 1:42 am
What apgcode?
I linked it.
Citation needed wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 1:42 am
Did you mean that non-periodic patterns don't have apgcodes?
They don't have apgcodes in the traditional sense, but it's possible to get Catagolue to display them by using xp0, xs0, xa0, xb0, etc….
And you can even using almost anything that begins with "x" such as "xkcd": xkcd_48jsj8gzwe9e

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!
I have reduced the glider cost of quadratic growth to eight and probably to seven. Looking for conduits...

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by MathAndCode » June 22nd, 2021, 10:26 am

ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 2:34 am
And you can even using almost anything that begins with "x" such as "xkcd": xkcd_48jsj8gzwe9e
Why did you orient it so that the glider goes downwards?
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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » June 24th, 2021, 4:15 am

MathAndCode wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 10:26 am
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 2:34 am
And you can even using almost anything that begins with "x" such as "xkcd": xkcd_48jsj8gzwe9e
Why did you orient it so that the glider goes downwards?
I thought that form was the canonical orientation form.

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!
I have reduced the glider cost of quadratic growth to eight and probably to seven. Looking for conduits...

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Re: Posts that are related to ConwayLife or other cellular autonoma but otherwise random

Post by praosylen » June 24th, 2021, 2:51 pm

Here's a random difficult challenge: without running this pattern (or doing something like using the identify feature in LV), say what object it's a 6-generation predecessor for...

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x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
2bo$bobo$o2b2o4b3o$o4b4o2bo$ob2o2bo5b2o$2o2b2o4b4obo$8bo$9b3o$10bo2bo
$12b2o2$12bo$13bo!
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