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Transformations (Game)

Post by BokaBB » September 8th, 2021, 9:18 am

Hello, everyone!
Transformations is a generalized game of hitting objects with gliders to make other objects.
There is a object or a group of them with at least 10 cells and you should hit them with as few gliders as possible to make the requested thing.
Your first task will be to turn this constellation into a block and a blinker:

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x = 49, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
5$34bo$33bobo$33bobo$34bo10b2o$45b2o$43b2o$9bo24bo8b2o$9bo23bobo$9bo
24bo2$14b2o$13bobo7b3o$4b2o$4b2o5bobo13bo$11b2o14bo$27bo12bo$39bobo$
38bobo$39bo2$16bo$15bobo13b2o$16bo14b2o3$32bo$31bobo$31bobo$32bo!
After this one is solved, feel free to post your own ones.
Enjoy the game!
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Re: Transformations (Game)

Post by dvgrn » September 8th, 2021, 11:34 am

BokaBB wrote:
September 8th, 2021, 9:18 am
Hello, everyone!
Transformations is a generalized game of hitting objects with gliders to make other objects.
There is a object or a group of them with at least 10 cells and you should hit them with as few gliders as possible to make the requested thing.
Your first task will be to turn this constellation into a block and a blinker...
Any block and any blinker? And the gliders can come in all at once, not just one at a time? There's probably a 3-glider solution, possibly 2 gliders, given that Seeds of Destruction comes up with 4G answers fairly quickly.

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x = 101, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
99.A$98.A$98.3A13$49.A$48.A$48.3A11$2.A$A.A38.A$.2A37.A.A$
40.A.A$41.A10.2A$52.2A$50.2A$16.A24.A8.2A$16.A23.A.A$16.A24.
A2$21.2A$20.A.A7.3A$11.2A$11.2A5.A.A13.A$18.2A14.A$34.A12.A$
46.A.A$45.A.A$46.A2$23.A$22.A.A13.2A$23.A14.2A3$39.A$38.A.A$
38.A.A$39.A8$13.3A$15.A$14.A!
If my solution is acceptable, then here's a new one. Turn this constellation into a glider gun:

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x = 49, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$31bo2bo$32b2o3$37bo$36bobo$36b2o7$30bo$30bo$30bo2$26b3o3b3o8$17b
3o$38b2o8bo$15bo21bo2bo5b3o$15bo21bo2bo4bo$bo13bo22b2o5b2o$obo$obo14b
3o8b2o$bo26b2o2$6b2o$5bobo$6bo3$40b2o$29b2o9bobo$29b2o10bo4$28b2o5b2o$
28b2o5b2o!
It's not as difficult as it looks, but (ONLY) if a hint is needed, this variant of the constellation is easier to solve (needs fewer gliders):

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#C Edited for clarity (in case someone was looking at it a few minutes after it was posted)
x = 62, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$31bo2bo$32b2o3$37bo$36bobo$36b2o7$30bo$30bo$30bo2$26b3o3b3o24b2o
$61bo$58bo$59b2o5$17b3o2$15bo$15bo$bo13bo$obo$obo14b3o8b2o$bo26b2o2$6b
2o34bo$5bobo33bobo$6bo34bobo$42bo4$44bo$43bobo$42bo2bo$43b2o10$16b2o$
16b2o3$21b2o$21b2o!

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Re: Transformations (Game)

Post by BokaBB » September 8th, 2021, 12:49 pm

dvgrn wrote:
September 8th, 2021, 11:34 am
BokaBB wrote:
September 8th, 2021, 9:18 am
Hello, everyone!
Transformations is a generalized game of hitting objects with gliders to make other objects.
There is a object or a group of them with at least 10 cells and you should hit them with as few gliders as possible to make the requested thing.
Your first task will be to turn this constellation into a block and a blinker...
Any block and any blinker? And the gliders can come in all at once, not just one at a time? There's probably a 3-glider solution, possibly 2 gliders, given that Seeds of Destruction comes up with 4G answers fairly quickly.

Code: Select all

x = 101, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
99.A$98.A$98.3A13$49.A$48.A$48.3A11$2.A$A.A38.A$.2A37.A.A$
40.A.A$41.A10.2A$52.2A$50.2A$16.A24.A8.2A$16.A23.A.A$16.A24.
A2$21.2A$20.A.A7.3A$11.2A$11.2A5.A.A13.A$18.2A14.A$34.A12.A$
46.A.A$45.A.A$46.A2$23.A$22.A.A13.2A$23.A14.2A3$39.A$38.A.A$
38.A.A$39.A8$13.3A$15.A$14.A!
If my solution is acceptable, then here's a new one. Turn this constellation into a glider gun:

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x = 49, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$31bo2bo$32b2o3$37bo$36bobo$36b2o7$30bo$30bo$30bo2$26b3o3b3o8$17b
3o$38b2o8bo$15bo21bo2bo5b3o$15bo21bo2bo4bo$bo13bo22b2o5b2o$obo$obo14b
3o8b2o$bo26b2o2$6b2o$5bobo$6bo3$40b2o$29b2o9bobo$29b2o10bo4$28b2o5b2o$
28b2o5b2o!
It's not as difficult as it looks, but (ONLY) if a hint is needed, this variant of the constellation is easier to solve (needs fewer gliders):

Code: Select all

#C Edited for clarity (in case someone was looking at it a few minutes after it was posted)
x = 62, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$31bo2bo$32b2o3$37bo$36bobo$36b2o7$30bo$30bo$30bo2$26b3o3b3o24b2o
$61bo$58bo$59b2o5$17b3o2$15bo$15bo$bo13bo$obo$obo14b3o8b2o$bo26b2o2$6b
2o34bo$5bobo33bobo$6bo34bobo$42bo4$44bo$43bobo$42bo2bo$43b2o10$16b2o$
16b2o3$21b2o$21b2o!
Thanks infinitely for playing my game,dvgrn!
Yes,it is by all means acceptable.
I think that there are cheap answers where everything but the left block and blinker is destroyed.
Will do my best to solve your puzzles!
Seeds of Destruction?That is a program?How to start using it?
wwei47 wrote:Are you interested in playing this game?
Enjoy your life and all the best!
Have a suuuuperior day!

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Re: Transformations (Game)

Post by BokaBB » September 9th, 2021, 8:46 am

Meanwhile,here is yet another one for you to have fun:
Destroy all of this constellation but the very,very long barge and make an extra block:

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x = 42, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
$17b3o3b3o$17bobo3bobo$17b3o3b3o6$2b2o$2bobo$5bo34bo$6bo33bo$7bo32bo$
6b2o5$26b2o$26b2o$10b3o6b2o$6bo12b2o$5bobo$5bobo6bo15bo$6bo6bobo13bobo
$14bobo13bo$15bobo$16bobo$17bobo$18bo$5b2o$5b2o!

Enjoy your life and all the best!
Have a good day!

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Re: Transformations (Game)

Post by hotdogPi » September 9th, 2021, 9:29 am

Why did you PM me? Of all the people who do glider syntheses, I'm not one of them.
User:HotdogPi/My discoveries

Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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Re: Transformations (Game)

Post by BokaBB » September 9th, 2021, 9:35 am

hotdogPi wrote:
September 9th, 2021, 9:29 am
Why did you PM me? Of all the people who do glider syntheses, I'm not one of them.
I saw that you are online and hoped that you may be interested. Sorry.
Enjoy your life and all the best!
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Re: Transformations (Game)

Post by dvgrn » September 9th, 2021, 12:14 pm

BokaBB wrote:
September 9th, 2021, 9:35 am
I saw that you are online and hoped that you may be interested. Sorry.
@BokaBB, please do try to avoid mis-using the private messaging system for this kind of thing. If you send out a lot of messages, you might possibly find someone who is interested -- but in the process, you will annoy a lot of other people unnecessarily, so spam PMs are just plain not a good idea. Only send PMs to people that you are fairly sure will want to receive them... please don't rely on "hope".

In general, people who want to know about game threads in the Sandbox will already have seen recent activity and will investigate and make their own decisions. People who don't want to know obviously aren't going to be happy about having to deal with the awkward forum PM system to retrieve your message.

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Re: Transformations (Game)

Post by BokaBB » September 9th, 2021, 2:03 pm

dvgrn wrote:
September 9th, 2021, 12:14 pm
BokaBB wrote:
September 9th, 2021, 9:35 am
I saw that you are online and hoped that you may be interested. Sorry.
@BokaBB, please do try to avoid mis-using the private messaging system for this kind of thing. If you send out a lot of messages, you might possibly find someone who is interested -- but in the process, you will annoy a lot of other people unnecessarily, so spam PMs are just plain not a good idea. Only send PMs to people that you are fairly sure will want to receive them... please don't rely on "hope".

In general, people who want to know about game threads in the Sandbox will already have seen recent activity and will investigate and make their own decisions. People who don't want to know obviously aren't going to be happy about having to deal with the awkward forum PM system to retrieve your message.
Sorry,dvgrn. I first wanted to bribe Word Chains again,but decided to do it with this game instead to not necropost.
Can you solve the second puzzle, please?
Enjoy your life and all the best!
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Re: Transformations (Game)

Post by dvgrn » September 10th, 2021, 8:28 am

BokaBB wrote:
September 8th, 2021, 12:49 pm
Will do my best to solve your puzzles!
BokaBB wrote:
September 9th, 2021, 2:03 pm
Can you solve the second puzzle, please?
Nope, I already solved one of yours -- you have to take a turn before I'll do anything else.

If you spent less time making up puzzles and more time trying to solve them yourself, I think you'd be much more likely to start to be able to design puzzles that would be more interesting to more people. The two you've created here so far amount to shooting down a big random assortment of stuff, with the goal of making another random assortment of stuff, for no obvious reason.

People have tried to explain to you before that this kind of thing gets old very fast, especially when you keep generating more of the same without trying to improve them.

That said... it's not like anyone seems to have been interested in my puzzle either, so there's really no saying yet if mine is any kind of "improvement".
BokaBB wrote:
September 8th, 2021, 12:49 pm
Seeds of Destruction?That is a program?How to start using it?
If you search the forums for "Seeds of Destruction", you'll quickly find a link to the relevant thread. If you can get it running (requires Java to be installed on your computer, and don't try running it on a phone because the input system really needs a mouse wheel) then you'll find that it makes my puzzles very easy to solve, especially the second version.

Hover the mouse over the buttons on the right and roll the mouse wheel to see what options are available. Click on "puzzle" to paste a new puzzle into Seeds of Destruction. Then moving the mouse around places whatever object is in the upper right corner in different places on the Life grid, and shows you instantly what the result would be of placing that object there. For this puzzle you'll want to find and choose "Glider". Rolling the mouse wheel over the image of the object (next button down) changes its orientation, so you can get gliders in different orientations for example.

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Re: Transformations (Game)

Post by HotWheels9232 » August 30th, 2022, 11:32 pm

BokaBB wrote:
September 9th, 2021, 8:46 am
Meanwhile,here is yet another one for you to have fun:
Destroy all of this constellation but the very,very long barge and make an extra block:

Code: Select all

x = 42, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
$17b3o3b3o$17bobo3bobo$17b3o3b3o6$2b2o$2bobo$5bo34bo$6bo33bo$7bo32bo$
6b2o5$26b2o$26b2o$10b3o6b2o$6bo12b2o$5bobo$5bobo6bo15bo$6bo6bobo13bobo
$14bobo13bo$15bobo$16bobo$17bobo$18bo$5b2o$5b2o!

Enjoy your life and all the best!
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Easy peasy:

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x = 59, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
53bo$52bo$52b3o14$34bo$33bo$33b3o3$30b3o3b3o$30bobo3bobo$30b3o3b3o2$
12bo$13bo$11b3o2$15b2o$15bobo$18bo34bo$19bo33bo$20bo32bo$19b2o2$56b3o$
56bo$57bo$39b2o$39b2o$23b3o6b2o$19bo12b2o$18bobo$18bobo6bo15bo$19bo6bo
bo13bobo$27bobo13bo$28bobo$29bobo$30bobo10b3o$31bo11bo$18b2o24bo$18b2o
$50b3o$13b3o34bo$15bo35bo$14bo2$7b3o$9bo$8bo$3o$2bo$bo!
Destroy all of this except the loaf and make an eater 1 in the proceeds not by syntheses:

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x = 28, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
13b2o3b2o$13b2o2bo2bo$18b2o4b2o$23bo2bo$24b2o5$b2o$o2bo$b2o$9b2o$8bobo
$9bo15b2o$12bo11bo2bo$11bobo11b2o$11bo2bo2b2o$12b2o3b2o3$13b2o$13b2o!
My 499th post!
Warning:Hint:

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x = 28, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
13b2o3b2o$13b2o2bo2bo$18b2o4b2o$23bo2bo$24b2o5$b2o$o2bo$b2o$9b2o$8bobo
$9bo15b2o$12bo11bo2bo$11bobo11b2o$11bo2bo2b2o$12b2o3b2o3$13b2o$13b2o!
Edit 3:

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x = 46, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
32bo$31bo$bo29b3o$2bo$3o2$44bo$26b2o3b2o10bo$26b2o2bo2bo9b3o$31b2o4b2o
$36bo2bo$37b2o2$11bo$12bo$10b3o$14b2o$13bo2bo$14b2o$22b2o$21bobo$22bo
15b2o$25bo11bo2bo$24bobo11b2o$24bo2bo2b2o$25b2o3b2o10b3o$42bo$43bo$26b
2o$26b2o$29b3o$29bo6b3o$30bo5bo$37bo!
The hint was wrong
My rules:
B34q/S23-k(ObliquePufferLife) and
B2n3-n4c5c/S234cz5cPM me to get some help on making rules!

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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3-k/S23
2o3b2o$obo2bobo$2bo2bo$bo$b2o!

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