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Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 25th, 2022, 8:54 pm
by Wyirm
Deduction coils is a game entirely about the minimal stabilization of induction coils.
Rules:
Given induction coils must actually be able to be stabilized without removing cells.
Cells may be added anywhere, although the goal is to find the minimal stabilization.
If two stabilizations have the same bounding box, but one has a lower population, the lower population still life is the "smallest"
for example, while snake on house and house weld shillelagh have the same bounding box, house weld shillelagh has a lower population
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x = 15, y = 12, rule = LifeSuper
D3.D$.D.D9.L$2.D9.L$.D.D5.L.L$D3.D5.L2$.E.2E$.2E.E8.2E$12.E.E$.3A6.3A
$A3.A4.A3.A$2A.2A4.2A.2A!
Starting induction coil:
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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
3obo$o2b2o$bo$2b3o$4bo!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 25th, 2022, 8:58 pm
by wwei47
4 cells in 2 ways:
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x = 12, y = 8, rule = Life
2b2o5b2o$2b2o5bo$10bo$3obo2b3obo$o2b2o2bo2b2o$bo6bo$2b3o4b3o$4bo6bo!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 25th, 2022, 8:59 pm
by hotdogPi
(sniped)
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x = 5, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2bo$3bo$3obo$o2b2o$bo$2b3o$4bo!
Next:
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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
bo4bo$ob4obo$bo4bo$2bo2bo$b2o2b2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 25th, 2022, 9:37 pm
by Wyirm
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x = 17, y = 7, rule = TripleLife
4.2A7.D$2.3A6.D.D$.A4.A3.D4.D$A.4A.A.D.4D.D$.A4.A3.D4.D$2.A2.A5.D2.D$
.2A2.2A3.2D2.2D!
Something I forgot to clarify, oscillators CAN be used, although only when it results in a better solution than a stable solution. If one of these is found, just post both. Stable: 5, Periodic: 3.
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 9:22 am
by hotdogPi
Here's your next one to stabilize:
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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$b2obo2bo$b2ob2obo$6bo$b2ob2o$obobo$o2bo$b2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 10:32 am
by Wyirm
hotdogPi wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 9:22 am
Here's your next one to stabilize:
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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$b2obo2bo$b2ob2obo$6bo$b2ob2o$obobo$o2bo$b2o!
It appears that induction coil is impossible to stabilize. In order to suppress the birth of the cell in the middle, normally an aircraft carrier would be used, but that causes the birth of another cell, which then cannot be suppressed without directly connecting another cell to the still life. No cells can be attached due to overcrowding transitions, and I do not see any still life mechanisms to stabilize the induction coil. Correct me if I'm missing something.
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 10:48 am
by hotdogPi
Wyirm wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 10:32 am
hotdogPi wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 9:22 am
Here's your next one to stabilize:
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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$b2obo2bo$b2ob2obo$6bo$b2ob2o$obobo$o2bo$b2o!
It appears that induction coil is impossible to stabilize. In order to suppress the birth of the cell in the middle, normally an aircraft carrier would be used, but that causes the birth of another cell, which then cannot be suppressed without directly connecting another cell to the still life. No cells can be attached due to overcrowding transitions, and I do not see any still life mechanisms to stabilize the induction coil. Correct me if I'm missing something.
You're absolutely correct. I intentionally chose an impossible one.
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 8:35 pm
by Wyirm
Let's make this next one difficult, shall we?
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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2obo$o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 26th, 2022, 10:13 pm
by wwei47
Wyirm wrote: ↑January 26th, 2022, 8:35 pm
Let's make this next one difficult, shall we?
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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2obo$o!
16:
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$b2o2b2o$3b2obo$3bo$bobo$b2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 1:26 am
by ihatecorderships
next one:
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x = 5, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$4bo$2bo$3bo$2bo$o2bo$b2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 27th, 2022, 2:00 am
by pzq_alex
ihatecorderships wrote: ↑January 27th, 2022, 1:26 am
next one:
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x = 5, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$4bo$2bo$3bo$2bo$o2bo$b2o!
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x = 6, y = 7, rule = Life
4b2o$3bobo$3bo$b2obo$o2bobo$bo2bo$2b2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 28th, 2022, 10:28 am
by Wyirm
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x = 6, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3bo$2ob2o$bobo$bo2bo$2b2o!
A second option
Next:
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x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3b2o$5bo$6bo$6bo$6b2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 28th, 2022, 7:44 pm
by wwei47
Wyirm wrote: ↑January 28th, 2022, 10:28 am
Next:
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x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3b2o$5bo$6bo$6bo$6b2o!
8?
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x = 8, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$o2b2o$3o$3b2o$2bo2bo$3b2obo$6bo$6b2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: January 31st, 2022, 7:23 pm
by Wyirm
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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
8bo$3bo5bo$3bo2b2o2$bobo$o$bo!
cells
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: February 1st, 2022, 1:31 am
by erictom333
Wyirm wrote: ↑January 31st, 2022, 7:23 pm
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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
8bo$3bo5bo$3bo2b2o2$bobo$o$bo!
cells
+8
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x = 10, y = 7, rule = Life
8b2o$2b2o5bo$3bo2b3o$3bobo$bobob2o$obo$bo!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: May 28th, 2022, 1:03 am
by HotWheels9232
Next One
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x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
o$4o$3bo$3bo2bo$4bobo$5b2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: May 28th, 2022, 1:05 am
by HotWheels9232
The best I got was 20
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x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2bo$bo$b4ob2o$4bobo$b2obo2bo$2bo2bobo$obo3b2ob2o$2o7bo$9bobo$10b2o
!
Edit 1:Slightly...
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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2bo$bo$b4ob2o$4bobobo$b2obo2bobo$2bo2bobobo$obo3b2ob2o$2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: May 28th, 2022, 11:45 am
by wwei47
How does this do?
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x = 13, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A$4.A$3.C$3.4C.2A$.2A3.C.A2.2A$A2.A2.C2.C.2A$.2A4.C.C$8.2C!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: May 28th, 2022, 12:52 pm
by HotWheels9232
wwei47 wrote: ↑May 28th, 2022, 11:45 am
How does this do?
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x = 13, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A$4.A$3.C$3.4C.2A$.2A3.C.A2.2A$A2.A2.C2.C.2A$.2A4.C.C$8.2C!
Great!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: May 28th, 2022, 1:08 pm
by LLAMASKYWALKER
No cheating by looking at other sandbox threads:
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x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4b3o$b3o3b2o$o3b3o2bo$b2o4b2obo$bob4o2bobo$bo5bobobo$2b5obobo$8bobo$2b
6obo$bo6bo$2b6o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: May 28th, 2022, 1:31 pm
by wwei47
LLAMASKYWALKER wrote: ↑May 28th, 2022, 1:08 pm
No cheating by looking at other sandbox threads:
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x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4b3o$b3o3b2o$o3b3o2bo$b2o4b2obo$bob4o2bobo$bo5bobobo$2b5obobo$8bobo$2b
6obo$bo6bo$2b6o!
How's this?
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x = 17, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
5.2A$5.A2.A$6.3C$3.3C3.2C$A.C3.3C2.C$2A.2C4.2C.C$3.C.4C2.C.C.2A$3.C5.
C.C.CA.A$4.5C.C.C$10.C.C$4.6C.C$3.C6.C$4.6C2$6.2A$6.2A!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: November 8th, 2023, 9:56 am
by HerscheltheHerschel
Try this without using buns, wings, doves (ironic because this contains doves), bookends, cis-melusines, double cis-melusines, and houses.
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x = 18, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
4.A$3.A.A$3.A.A$.A.A.A.A$A.A3.A.A$A6.A.A$A.A6.A$.A.A5.A.2A$3.A6.A2.A$
3.A.A5.A2.A$4.A.A5.3A$6.A$6.A.A$7.A.A$9.A$9.A.A$10.A.A$12.A2.3A$12.A.
A2.A$13.A2.A$14.2A!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: November 8th, 2023, 10:20 am
by hotdogPi
HerscheltheHerschel wrote: ↑November 8th, 2023, 9:56 am
Try this without using buns, wings, doves (ironic because this contains doves), bookends, cis-melusines, double cis-melusines, and houses.
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x = 18, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
4.A$3.A.A$3.A.A$.A.A.A.A$A.A3.A.A$A6.A.A$A.A6.A$.A.A5.A.2A$3.A6.A2.A$
3.A.A5.A2.A$4.A.A5.3A$6.A$6.A.A$7.A.A$9.A$9.A.A$10.A.A$12.A2.3A$12.A.
A2.A$13.A2.A$14.2A!
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x = 23, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bobo$5bobo$3bobobobo$2bobo3bobo$2bo6bobo$b2obo6bo$o2bobo5bob2o$2o
3bo6bo2bo$5bobo5bo2bo$6bobo5b3o2bo$8bo8b3o$8bobo5bo$9bobo5bo$11bo6bo2b
2o$11bobo5bo2bo$12bobo5b2o$14bo2b3o$14bobo2bo$15bo2bo$16b2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: November 8th, 2023, 10:35 am
by C_R_116
Try to solve:
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2o$o$o$o$o2bo$b2obo$5b2o!
Re: Deduction coils (game)
Posted: November 8th, 2023, 10:37 am
by hotdogPi
C_R_116 wrote: ↑November 8th, 2023, 10:35 am
Try to solve:
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2o$o$o$o$o2bo$b2obo$5b2o!
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x = 12, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$bo2bobob2obo$obobobobob2o$bo2bobo$4bo2bo$5b2obobo$7bob2o$7bo$6b2o
!