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[iddi01]

@islptng: Are you the new account of GUYTU6J? or are you imitating him? or are you a relative/friend of him? or is it just a huge coincidence?

Note the "location"...

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The "location" of GUYTU6J includes it.

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edit: islptng's reply that might have answered the question (original version being very small text):

我现在更加怀疑这就是GUYTU6J的另一个账号吧

我澄清一下,我和GUYTU6J没有任何关系啊啊啊啊啊啊!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tommyaweosme]

they both come from china, and i assume that is the chinese word for china

coincidence

[wwei47]

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    if sym=="wwei23_34_7c156_16gtest":
        hash=0
        for i in xrange(32):
            hash<<=8
            hash+=ord(s[i])
        thesoup=[1,0,2,0,0,1,1,1,2,2,-3,1,-2,1,-3,2,-2,2]
        x=0
        y=0
        i=-5
        for n in range(16):
            i+=5
            if (hash>>i)&1==0:
                continue
            if (hash>>(i+1))&7==0:
                x+=87
                y+=64
            else:
                x+=64
                y+=68
            thesoup+=getglider(x,y,(hash>>(i+4))&1)
        return thesoup

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def getglider(dx,dy,phase):#Only 0 or 1
  if phase==0:
    return [dx+1,dy,dx+2,dy,dx,dy+1,dx+1,dy+1,dx+2,dy+2]
  else:
    return [dx,dy,dx+1,dy,dx+2,dy,dx,dy+1,dx+1,dy+2]

[confocaloid]

[...]
although I remember checking zz_QUADRATIC and I saw a comment from 2015 under it
[...]

There are several things to keep in mind about this.

First, 'zz_QUADRATIC' and other zz_... strings refer to "guessed" object types, rather than to specific objects.
An apgcode such as 'xq4_153' does refer to a single object within a specific cellular automaton.
However, a string such as zz_LINEAR does not refer to a single object.

Second, on the Catagolue, comments on an object page like "/object/blahblahblah/rulestring" are attached to the string that appears in place of "blahblahblah", rather than to the entire suffix "blahblahblah/rulestring". As a consequence, if some object is not endemic, all comments will be collected in one place regardless of the rulestrings used by the commenters. As another consequence, if some apgcode refers to two different objects depending on the CA rules, the comments about those two objects will be put on a single page.

Since 'zz_QUADRATIC' refers to a "guessed" object type (and not a single object), and since comments for different rulestrings are put in one place, a consequence is that all comments about all zz_QUADRATIC's on the Catagolue will be put in the same comments section, regardless of the rulestring.

Here is an example (note the rulestring at the end of the URL, and check the comments on the linked page):
/object/zz_QUADRATIC/bs

[confocaloid]

I'm working on a different approach on emulating rule 110 in tflock 2, i'll post the progress here and post the finished thing in the rule's thread.
[...]
Crossposting two new circuitry posts (why are people insisting on posting stuff in circuitry rules in the specific threads? [...]

When there is a dedicated forum thread about a specific ruleset, I think it is preferable to post (or crosspost) new discoveries or interesting results in the dedicated thread.
(A dedicated thread is meant to collect all available relevant information, whether or not previously posted elsewhere.)

I think it makes sense to post interesting parts of intermediate progress (intermediate results) in a more general thread (or in Sandbox), and post completed results in a more specific thread.

For example, I posted a p1078 glider gun in Pseudo Life (B357/S238), after posting several intermediate results / incomplete progress in that thread and in "Thread for your completed searches using any software" (the latter is more general).

[confocaloid]

(repetitive posts omitted)

In most of terminology-related discussions during the last year or so, (as far as I can tell from my own experience of being a side in those interactions, ) one of your visible assumptions is the assumption that LifeWiki should blindly follow the "existing common usage" on the ConwayLife.com forums.
In other words, you apparently believe that, just because some word or phrase is commonly used in forum posts, already somehow proves that the same word or phrase would be helpful when used the same way in LifeWiki. As far as I can tell, you do not see any major differences between discussing a topic on the forums and explaining the same topic in LifeWiki.

I disagree with that assumption. LifeWiki is very different from the forums. Just because some wording often occurs in conversations on some topic here on the ConwayLife.com forums, doesn't mean that the same wording should be used on the LifeWiki to explain the same topics. Frequently, wording taken from forum conversations becomes unhelpful, incorrect, misleading when copied to the LifeWiki.

LifeWiki is aimed at readers, including many (almost-)complete beginners. The primary aim of LifeWiki is to collect existing CA-related knowledge, and present that knowledge in a human-accessible, readable, encyclopedic form. (LifeWiki:About, LifeWiki:Style guide)

In contrast, the ConwayLife.com forums are aimed at Life/CA enthusiasts who are exploring, sharing and discussing various topics and ideas. Forum members often communicate with each other using some local jargon. Such local jargon is often counterintuitive and confusing to newcomers. Such local jargon can be highly context-dependent. Such local jargon can be specific to a narrow area within the overall Life/CA scope (while conflicting with the same words and phrases used in a different way in conversations about another narrow topic).

That means LifeWiki must be different from the forums in the wording of articles and in choosing the defined terminology. Terminology on the wiki needs to be intuitively understandable and self-explanatory; you are writing for people who do not yet know and understand the topic.

[Citation needed]

There are now exactly 1111 threads in The Sandbox.

[confocaloid]

Fun fact: you can delete your own post if you want, as long as it's the most recent post in the thread.

There are now exactly 1111 threads in The Sandbox.

As of the time I'm writing this,

• the forum thread State of the SandBox - August 12,2023 is on page #2 of the Sandbox subforum,
• CA screensaver ideas? is also on page #2,
• Glider Destruction Of Still Lives, Oscillators, Etc. is on page #4,
• Math biopics I'd like to see is on page #5,
• Thread for CA-related fast-growing functions and Revive a Thread Request Thread are on page #10,
• Chain Gun is on page #23.

[unname4798]

Not Life related/Public tape speedy deletion (content/activity that doesn't fall in LifeWiki scope). [...]

You didn't read the notice!

(1) "The notice" basically just asks to not delete the page. That doesn't in any way change the issue. The content is still out of LifeWiki's scope.

(2) "The notice" asking to not delete the page was added at 07:57 UTC, i.e. after my previous post in this thread.

I can't create an acoount on Esolangs Wiki!

[hotdogPi]

Google Docs, then?

[unname4798]

Google Docs, then?

I can't install an app.
[joke]Esolangs Wiki requires khjsffffsjjbfhjfhbbkhesbvidvs.apk.zip.jpeg.png.7z.000.exe and 8 more viruses to log in without having to pass CAPTCHA.[/joke]

[b-engine]

Google Docs, then?

I can't install an app.

Docs don't require downloading. Here's the link https://docs.google.com.

[unname4798]

Google Docs, then?

I can't install an app.

Docs don't require downloading. Here's the link https://docs.google.com.

Editing requires an app.

[b-engine]

Editing requires an app.

I assume that you are using a phone, as PCs don't require apps to edit Docs files.
If so, I have no idea other than downloading…

[unname4798]

Editing requires an app.

I assume that you are using a phone, as PCs don't require apps to edit Docs files.
If so, I have no idea other than downloading…

I wouldn't buy a PC just for editing.

[b-engine]

I wouldn't buy a PC just for editing.

I see. You may use an online virtual machine for the purpose. Is downloading harder than buying a PC?

[confocaloid]

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b3s234c/D4_+1: 3500000 soups completed (323.753 soups/second current, 321.710 overall).
b3s234c/D4_+1: 3600000 soups completed (303.553 soups/second current, 321.177 overall).
Linear-growth pattern detected: yl12_1_8_c7310da81295b6611e6e4e34a80a5523
b3s234c/D4_+1: 3700000 soups completed (312.678 soups/second current, 320.941 overall).
b3s234c/D4_+1: 3800000 soups completed (322.763 soups/second current, 320.989 overall).
b3s234c/D4_+1: 3900000 soups completed (321.591 soups/second current, 321.004 overall).

Weird things happen. I'm currently soup searching b3s234c, and apgluxe printed the above to the console. Looked up the apgcode on Catagolue. It seems to be an occurrence of pufferfish (yl12_1_8_c7310da81295b6611e6e4e34a80a5523/b3s234c). Scrolled down to the comments section and looked through the Catagolue comments, then went and googled 'gibberfish' out of sheer curiosity, and hey presto, it happened to exist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibberichthys

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my post growth will grow and grow and no one will stop me. i will break the forum records like i already (probably) have (200 posts per month gets me to 2400 posts per year. i already have exactly 900 posts and it hasnt even been six months)

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s/records/rules/

[tommyaweosme]

gibberish not gibberfish

[confocaloid]

gibberish not gibberfish

(1) That's the entire point
(2) Neither of two seems to be of economic importance

[Citation needed]

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xp0_e;0;0444;066;08k8;0696
xp0_cc;0;0652;0cc;0qm;0oi6
xp0_a4a;0;08kk8;0gs26;04a4;0mp3
xp0_2222;0;08ka4;0356;0c93;02552
xp0_2521;0;0253;0653;04a4;0ciic
xp0_g4a41;0;0cia4;0ca6;04a4;0oo033
xp0_e22;0;0db;0256;06952;04ako
xp0_162;0;08kic;04ac;0oo;06996
xp0_6228;0;0634;0ca8;08gs;0532
xp0_a54;0;0456;06c2;0ocg;02a6
xp0_4k88;0;0712;0ocg;084s;0ko8
xp0_2445;0;0153;08ac;0634;06c2

Click on http://www.dotsies.org/game/, click "customize", insert the following text, and click "save". It's a game about Conway's Life.

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s, 1, ccc, gg, dld, gmg
hh, 2, gjb, hh, ut, ing
kck, 3, dlld, evbg, ckc, tyf
bbbb, 4, dlkc, fjg, hmf, bjjb
bjba, 1, bjf, gjf, ckc, hnnh
eckca, 2, hnkc, hkg, ckc, ii ff
sbb, 3, rq, bjg, gmjb, ckli
agb, 4, dlnh, ckh, ii, gmmg
gbbd, 1, gfc, hkd, dev, jfb
kjc, 2, cjg, ghb, ihe, bkg
cldd, 3, pab, ihe, dcv, lid
bccj, 4, ajf, dkh, gfc, ghb

[b-engine]

uhhhhhhh
Screenshot_2024-06-30-16-01-13-175.jpg

Hmm.…

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[confocaloid]

i made a language just for searching CA
https://esolangs.org/wiki/ulsl

An interesting related forum thread: Should we create a domain-specific language for CA searches?

[tommyaweosme]

how does 2pca4,(numbers) work? i really want to make one of those cool rules

[confocaloid]

Historical note:

2018

Is that the record for the tallest post ever on these forums? :P

No
[81906 single-dot lines omitted for brevity]
— this is.

Please stick to the regulation number of paragraphs! Thank you. (dvgrn: at least 5, other users: at most 5)

Thanks macbi for the help!

haha long boy

My next post may or may not be the tallest post theoretically possible.

My next post may or may not be the tallest post theoretically possible.

No PLEASE no

2021

Heh, the official terms and conditions of my work here as moderator say that I can use five paragraphs if I want to.

If we have to speak about your official terms and conditions, you are not allowed to use less than five paragraphs.
[...]

2024

[Citation needed]

What is the rule string of "B-Life"? I couldn't find it in LifeViewer.

By the way, Hunting's rule is apparently copyrighted.

B34t5y7/S23

Thank you.