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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by WhiteHawk » November 7th, 2024, 1:11 am

iNoMed wrote:
July 31st, 2024, 9:50 am

Actually, they're similar enough to allow a stably-supported monomer of that p21 honey farm hassler to be built:

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x = 25, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$8bo2bo$5b3o3b3o$4bo3b3o3bo$4b2obo3b3o$8b2obo$3bob2obobo$3b2ob2o3$
10bobo7b2o$9bobob2o6bo$9bobo9bob2o$4b2o4bo7b2ob2obo$3bobo13bo$3bo15bo$
2b2o14b2ob2o$o2bobob2o8bo2bobo$2o2b2obo8bob2o$7bobo6bobo$7b2obo3bobo2b
o$10bo3b2o2b2o$10b2o!
Should this p21 HF hassler be added to the Period-21 honey farm hasslers? It has a fairly small population and BB, though it is similar to two HF hasslers already in there.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » November 7th, 2024, 6:29 am

All three variations could flock together:

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#C Left to right:
#C (1) p21 honey farm hassler, found by Carson Cheng on July 13, 2023, and monomerized by Entity Valkyrie on the same day,
#C source: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=164529#p164529
#C (2) p21 honey farm hassler, found by mvr, source: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=191010#p191010
#C (3) p21 honey farm hassler, found by iNoMed, source: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=191025#p191025
x = 125, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$6b4o$5bobob2o$5b2o3b2o$10bo$12bo$9b3o$8b2o2b2o$5b2o2b2o$7b3o57b2o
38b2o$6bo61bo2bo36bo2bo$8bo56b3o3b3o31b3o3b3o$7b2o3b2o50bo3b3o3bo29bo
3b3o3bo$8b2obobo50b2obo3b3o30b2obo3b3o$9b4o6b2o47b2obo36b2obo$10b2o7bo
3b2o38bob2obobo32bob2obobo$21bo2bo38b2ob2o35b2ob2o$20b2obo$20bo2b4o8bo
20b2o2b2o$10bobo7b3o3bo6b3o20bo2bobo8bobo7b2o28bobo7b2o$9bobob2o5bo2b
4o5bo24bobo9bobob2o6bo27bobob2o6bo$9bobo8b2obo2bo4bobo22b2obo9bobo9bob
2o24bobo9bob2o$4b2o4bo5bo4bob2o2bo2b4o19bobo2bo11bo7b2ob2obo19b2o4bo7b
2ob2obo$3bobo10bo4bobobo2bo5b2o17b2ob2o21bo23bobo13bo$3bo18b2ob4obob2o
2bo19bo22bo23bo15bo$2b2o20bo4b2obo2bo20bo21b2ob2o19b2o14b2ob2o$o2bobob
2o15bob2o5b2o16bob2ob2o7bo11bo2bobo17bo2bobob2o8bo2bobo$2o2b2obo15b2ob
o24b2obo9bobo9bob2o20b2o2b2obo8bob2o$7bobo16bo27bo6b2obobo9bobo28bobo
6bobo$7b2obo15b2o26b2o7bobo8bobo2bo27b2obo3bobo2bo$10bo63b2o2b2o30bo3b
2o2b2o$10b2o98b2o$68b2ob2o$65bobob2obo$64bob2o$62b3o3bob2o$61bo3b3o3bo
$62b3o3b3o$64bo2bo$67b2o!
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Citation needed » November 7th, 2024, 9:37 am

Which "Koenig" discovered the Koenig's Colourised Life? Is it Hkoenig?
The page named "Koenig" was blank.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by dvgrn » November 7th, 2024, 11:00 am

Citation needed wrote:
November 7th, 2024, 9:37 am
Which "Koenig" discovered the Koenig's Colourised Life? Is it Hkoenig?
Yes. Link added.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Citation needed » November 7th, 2024, 9:13 pm

dvgrn wrote:
November 7th, 2024, 11:00 am
Citation needed wrote:
November 7th, 2024, 9:37 am
Which "Koenig" discovered the Koenig's Colourised Life? Is it Hkoenig?
Yes. Link added.
Thank you very much.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by WhiteHawk » November 7th, 2024, 9:37 pm

confocaloid wrote:
November 7th, 2024, 6:29 am
All three variations could flock together:
I think that is the most logical layout, but then the duplicate HF hasslers already in there would need to be deleted to avoid repeats.

Not saying that's a terrible problem, just something to consider when citing the original posts these oscillators came from.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by R2INT » November 8th, 2024, 10:28 pm

The image at File:Spaceship_ford_circles.png says that no 3c/7's are known, despite there being known 3c/7 spaceships. Can someone edit that image to account for the new discoveries?
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by dbell » November 11th, 2024, 11:56 pm

The 'Oscillator periods' section in the 'LifeWiki:Game_of_Life_Status_page' can be simplified.

The green and yellow descriptions, and even the table itself are unnecessary.

They could be replaced by a simple statement like the following:

Oscillators are known for all periods. For each period, an oscillator is known having at least one cell which oscillates at the full period.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by WhiteHawk » November 12th, 2024, 12:49 am

dbell wrote:
November 11th, 2024, 11:56 pm
The 'Oscillator periods' section in the 'LifeWiki:Game_of_Life_Status_page' can be simplified.
Done.
confocaloid wrote:
November 7th, 2024, 6:29 am
All three variations could flock together:
How should it be noted that all 3 were discovered at different times?

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » November 12th, 2024, 3:35 am

WhiteHawk wrote:
November 12th, 2024, 12:49 am
[...]
confocaloid wrote:
November 7th, 2024, 6:29 am
All three variations could flock together: [...]
How should it be noted that all 3 were discovered at different times?
Add an embedded viewer or embedded viewers with caption(s) that describe the pattern(s) and credit the discoverer(s), and add footnotes linking to the forum posts where those patterns were first posted.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by WhiteHawk » November 12th, 2024, 8:42 pm

Unrelated to my last suggestion: Should there be a LifeWiki page for 4diagonal? There are a lot of interesting things in that rule: Super-small C/7, two C/17s, small p41 glider gun, p32 LOM hassler supported only by blocks, statorless P90 (Strictly Volatile?), infinite growth based on the Century, failed reflectorless rotating herschel that can be supported and form a gun.

Edit: Pattern collection if it helps (note TL hasslers trigger B4c, so there are a lot of periods of TL hasslers not shown here that work)

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x = 387, y = 324, rule = B34c/S23
151bo3bo22bo3bo$150b3ob3o20b3ob3o$149b2obobob2o18b2obobob2o113bobobo2b
obobo9b2o8bo40bo$148b2o7b2o16b2o7b2o10bobobo17bo3bo7b2o87b2o8b2o9b2o18b
2o8b2o9b2o$149bo7bo18bo7bo24bo7bobobobo6bobo3b2o64bo6bo20b2o8b2o18b2o
9b2o8b2o$120b2o26b2o7b2o16b2o7b2o14bo7bobo7b2ob2o14bo93bo40bo$117b2ob
6o20b2obobo3bobob2o12b2obobo3bobob2o18b3ob3o19bobobo61bobobo2bobobo46b
2o$115b2ob3obo3bo20bobob2ob2obobo14bobob2ob2obobo9bobobo4bo7bo4b2ob2o
133b2o26b2o$109b2o3bo4b2obo3b2o2b2o12b2obo2bobobobo2bob2o8b2obo2bobob
obo2bob2o16b3ob3o4bobobobo6bobobo67bo2bo78b2o$104bo4b2o2b2o3bob2o4bo3b
2o12b2obob2obobob2obob2o8b2obob2obobob2obob2o6bo11bobo7bo3bo6bo$104b3o
7bo3bob3ob2o18bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo8bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo19bo19b2o3bobo61bobobo
2bobobo$107bo7b6ob2o19b2o2bob2obobob2obo2b2o6b2o2bob2obobob2obo2b2o5b
obobo34b2o130bobo$106b2o11b2o22bo19bo6bo19bo176b2o$128b2o12bobo17bobo
4bobo17bobo176bo$109b2o18bo246b2o$108bo20bobo13b3o11b3o10b3o11b3o45b2o
139b2o$97b3o9b2o3bo15bobo15bo9bo16bo9bo10bobobo6b2ob2o8bo13bo84b2o8bo
27b2o18bo$96bo15b2ob2o14bo3b2o12bo7bo18bo7bo22bo3bo7bobo14bo82b2o8b2o
25b2o27b2o$96bo3bo12bobo19b2o9b2ob2o5b2ob2o12b2ob2o5b2ob2o12bo34b2o93b
2o8b2o13b2o27b2o$96bo2bobo12bo34bob2ob2obo18bob2ob2obo22bo3bo7bobo8b2o
99bo8b2o22bo18b2o$98bobo2bo4b2o39bo2bobo2bo18bo2bobo2bo11bobobo6b2ob2o
9b2o5bo2bo2bo130b2o$99bo3bo4b2o42bobo24bobo39b2o5b2o3b3o3b2o123b2o$103b
o45b2obobob2o18b2obobob2o15bo18bobo12bo2bo2bo132bo$100b3o49bobo24bobo
55b2o134b2o$146b3o9b3o12b3o9b3o8bobobo18bobo10b2o138bobo$114b2o30bo13b
o12bo13bo32bo11bo$113b3o118bo$106bo3b2o4bo28b2o13b2o10b2o13b2o44b2o121b
2o$105bo5b5o28bo17bo8bo17bo166b2o26b2o$104bo3b2obo35b3o7b3o14b3o7b3o25b
o3bo112bo54b2o$105b2ob2ob2o31b2o3bo7bo3b2o8b2o3bo7bo3b2o6bo3bo11bo3bo
102b2o8b2o9b2o27bo$105b2o4b2o100b3o103b2o9b2o8b2o17b2o8b2o9b2o$105bo43b
2o5b2o18b2o5b2o11bo3bo6b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o109bo27b2o9b2o8b2o$104b3o14b2o28b
o30bo24bo2b3o3b3o2bo149bo$102bo4bo13b2o27b2o12bo17b2o12bobobo7b3o7b3o
$102bo5bo39b3obo9b2ob2o14bob3o$108bo5bo32b2o3bo9b2ob2o14bo3b2o13bo7b3o
7b3o$102bo5bo4bobo30bo3bo2bo26bo2bo3bo19bo2b3o3b3o2bo$102bo3bo5bo3bo34b
obo9b3o14bobo17bo6b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o$102bo2bo5bo4bo29b2o2b5o7bo2bo13b5o2b
2o25b3o$103bobo5b2o3bo95bo3bo82bobobo2bobobo$104bobo3bo5bo35b3o7bo16b
3o30bo3bo116bo$105bo3b2o2bo47b2o2bo137bo2bo24b3o$109bo3b2o46bo2b2o13b
3o148bo$109bobobo38b2o7b3obo12b2ob2o116bobobo2bobobo19b2o$152b2o7b2ob
3o47bobo16b2o9b2o$110b3o40bo7bo16bo3bo29b3ob3o13bo2bo8bobo7b2o47bo2bo
3bo9b3o$163bo32bobobo10bo7bo9bo3bobo10bo8bo65bo$165b3o42bob3ob3obo6b3o
3bob2o10bo5b2o44bobobo2bobobo17bo$196bo13bobo5bobo5bo21bo3bo74b3o$106b
o40b3o15bo2bo40b2obo5bob2o4bob2obobo14bob2o$104b2o40bo18bo30bobobo26b
o9bo80b2o$105b2o39bo3bo15b3o40b2obo5bob2o9bobob2obo8b2obo68bo$146bo2b
obo12bo4bo30bo9bobo5bobo17bo7bo3bo65b3o$148bobo2bo14b3o9b3o3b3o21bob3o
b3obo7b2obo3b3o6b2o5bo64bo$149bo3bo10b3obo11bo2bobo2bo7bobobo10bo7bo9b
obo3bo7bo8bo$153bo26bo7bo23b3ob3o10bo2bo10b2o7bobo$150b3o13b3o11bo7bo
25bobo13b2o21b2o$167b2obo10bobobobo$170b2o$167bo2b3o11bo11bobobo97bob
obo2bobobo19b3o33b2o$54b2o86b2o25b2o12b3o23b2o119b3o32b2o$51b2ob6o82b
o23bo2b2o11b5o9bo12b2o91bo2bo3bo24b3o$49b2ob3obo3bo69bo12b3o20b3o14b3o
26bo$43b2o3bo4b2obo3b2o2b2o52b2o9b2o8b2o4bo21b2o14b3o10bobobo8bo2bo85b
obobo2bobobo$38bo4b2o2b2o3bob2o4bo3b2o52b2o8b2o9b2o25b3o14b3o23bo$38b
3o7bo3bob3ob2o68bo37bo2bo13bobo10bo3bo10bob2o87bo2bo3bo7bo$41bo7b6ob2o
108bo16bobo27b2o102b3o9b2o3b2o28b3o$40b2o11b2o129bo11bobobo12b2o83bob
obo2bobobo10bo8bo4b2o28bo2bo$62b2o103b3o149b2o8b2o2b2o$43b2o18bo98b3o
b2o161bob2o32b3o$42bo20bobo96bo2b2obo159bo3bo$31b3o9b2o3bo15bobo96b4o
bo159b2obo$30bo15b2ob2o14bo3b2o93b2o30bobobo11b2o5b2o11b2o92b2o2b2o8b
2o$30bo3bo12bobo19b2o141bo2bobo2bo12bo91b2o4bo8bo16b2o$30bo2bobo12bo114b
o32bo3bo29bobo92b2o3b2o9b3o6b2o5bo2bo8b2o$32bobo2bo4b2o122bo45bo2bobo
2bo122bo6b2o5bo2bo8bobo$33bo3bo4b2o55b2o62bob3o28bobobo10bo2bo3bo2bo6b
obo2b2o123bobo9b2o$37bo60bo66b3o43bobo5bobo$34b3o61bo2bo60bo5bo27bo3b
o11bo7bo5bobo2bo3bo129b2o9bobo$102bo59b7o57b2o3bo4bo87b3o38bobo8bo2bo
5b2o$48b2o35b2o3b2o4b2o3b2o3b2o53b2o3bobo10bo9bo6bobobo11b2o5b2o12bob
obo90b3o35b2o8bo2bo5b2o$47b3o35b2o3b2o3b2o4b2o3b2o53b2o15b3o7b3o21b2o
5b2o13bobobo90b3o46b2o$40bo3b2o4bo39bo71bobo12b2obo7bob2o43bo4bo$39bo
5b5o41bo2bo82b3o9b3o44bo3bo$38bo3b2obo48bo67bo2b2o10b3o3b3o3b3o$39b2o
b2ob2o45b2o72b2o10b2o3b3o3b2o46b2o130b3o$39b2o4b2o116b5o16bo$39bo329b
o2bo$38b3o14b2o139bobobo10bo9bo148b3o$36bo4bo13b2o106b2o46b3o5b3o$36b
o5bo120b2o31bo3bo13bo3bo$42bo5bo158b2o4b2o3b2o$36bo5bo4bobo111b2o2b2o
29bobobo7bo$36bo3bo5bo3bo109b3o2b3o40bobo$bo34bo2bo5bo4bo110b2o2b2o33b
o8b2o159b2o$2o35bobo5b2o3bo109bo6bo46b5o151b2o$b2o35bobo3bo5bo90b2o7b
o8b2o6b2o9bo9bo7bobobo11bo7bo$2bo36bo3b2o2bo89b2obobo5b3o8b2o6b2o8b3o
7b3o24b5o$43bo3b2o79bo7bobobo6bo28b2obo7bob2o31b2o$43bobobo79bobo5bo2b
o2bo5b2o27b3o9b3o31bobo$128bo7b2o2b2o34b3o9b3o33bo73bo3bo2bobobo14b2o
$44b3o129b3o3b3o3b3o22b2o3b2o4b2o98b2o$177b2o4bo4b2o24bo3bo79bo3bo2bo
3bo$151b2o28bobobo25b3o5b3o$151bo59bo9bo76bobobo2bo3bo11bobo$81b3o65b
obo182b3o$52bo27bo47b2o13b2o4b2o151bo2bo3bo11bobo10b4o$53bo26bo3bo42b
o2bo11bo2bo48bo2bobobo126bo4b2o$51b3o26bo2bobo41b2ob2o10b2ob2o66b2o4b
2o81bo2bobobo$82bobo2bo40bo2bo11bo2bo47bo2bo3bo11b2o4b2o106b2o4bo$47b
2o34bo3bo35b2o4b2o13b2o178b4o10bobo$47b2o3bo34bo34bobo39b3o17b3o7bo2b
o3bo11bo6bo104b3o$51bobo30b3o35bo36b3o3bo19bo3b3o20bobo4bobo116bobo$52b
obo66b2o71bo2bo3bo5b2o2bo3bo2bo3bo2b2o$54bo104bo2bo3bo17bo3bo2bo15b2o
3bobo4bobo3b2o$54b2o105bo2b4o2bo9bo2b4o2bo4bo2bobobo11bo6bo115b2o$76b
2o54b2o2b2o7bo14b5o3b2obo7bob2o3b5o145b2o$76bo55bo2bo2bo5bobo66bo6bo$
64bo12b3o53bobobo7bo18bo7b2o3b2o7bo20b2o3bobo4bobo3b2o$52b2o9b2o8b2o4b
o43bo7bobob2o28bobo6bobo6bobo21b2o2bo3bo2bo3bo2b2o$52b2o8b2o9b2o46b2o
8b2o35b2obo7bob2o29bobo4bobo$62bo59b2o46bo3bobo3bo32bo6bo$170bobo5bob
o$171bo7bo33b2o4b2o119b2o7bo$213b2o4b2o80bo3bo3bo26b2obobo5b3o$327bo7b
obobo6bo$301bo3bo3bo16bobo5bo2bo2bo5b2o$244bo82bo7b2o2b2o$147b2o48bo2b
o12bob2o25b3o56bobobo3bo$130b2o15bobo7b2o52bobo17b2o8bo3b2o$130b2o17b
o7b2o38bo2bo10bobob3o13bo5b2o3b3o2bo57bo3bo40b2o$147b3o82bo4b2o5bobob
ob2obo96bo$197bo2bo10b3obobo13b2o13bobobob2o51bo3bo38bobo$215bobo27bo
2bo78b2o13b2o4b2o$197bo2bo11b2obo20bobobo4b2obo77bo2bo11bo2bo$147b3o8b
2o69bo7b3o7bo78b2ob2o10b2ob2o$130b2o17bo8b2o37bo2bo27bob2o95bo2bo11bo
2bo$130b2o15bobo78bo2bo90b2o4b2o13b2o$147b2o74b2obobobo13b2o75bobo$170b
2o5b2o44bob2obobobo7b2o2bo76bo$169bob2o3b2obo49bo2b3o5bo4bo74b2o$169b
o3bobo3bo50b2o3bo5b4o$170b2o5b2o53b3o$173bobo56bo8b2o88b2o2b2o7bo$241b
2o81b2o5bo2bo2bo5bobo$193bo2bobobo124bo6bobobo7bo$212bobobo105b3o5bob
ob2o$193bo6bo11b5o105bo7b2o$212bobobo$173bo19bo2bobobo$172bobo38bobo$
172bobo18bo2bo14b2o3b2o$173bo40bo$193bo2bobobo10b2o3b2o$336bo$336bo$167b
3o7b3o119bobobo2bobobo25bo$167b3o7b3o$166bo3bo5bo3bo12bo2bobobo14b2o14b
2o66bo3bo2bo3bo$166bo2bo7bo2bo30b2obobo14bobob2o$166bo2bo7bo2bo12bo6b
o11bobo18bobo63bobobo2bo3bo19bo$212bob2o16b2obo93b3o7bo$193bo2bobobo10b
2o22b2o66bo2bo3bo18bob2o5b3o$210bo3b2o16b2o3bo94b2o3b2obo$193bo6bo10b
obo20bobo62bobobo2bobobo18bob2o3b2o$210b2obo20bob2o91b3o5b2obo$193bo2b
obobo7bo2bob2o18b2obo2bo90bo7b3o$208b2obo5b3o8b3o5bob2o99bo$211bo5bob
o3b2o3bobo5bo$211b2o4b3o2bo2bo2b3o4b2o$223b2o$333bo$192b2o29b2o108bo$
191bo2bo16b2o4b3o2bo2bo2b3o4b2o96bo$191bo2bo16bo5bobo3b2o3bobo5bo$192b
2o14b2obo5b3o8b3o5bob2o$208bo2bob2o18b2obo2bo$210b2obo20bob2o$211bobo
20bobo$186b3o8b3o10bo3b2o16b2o3bo$186b3o8b3o11b2o22b2o$185bo3bo6bo3bo
11bob2o16b2obo$185bo2bo8bo2bo11bobo18bobo63bobobo2bobobo31bo$185bo2bo
8bo2bo10b2obobo14bobob2o105bo2b2o$215b2o14b2o66bo3bo6bo30bo5bo$319b2o
21bobo2b2o11b2o$299bobobo2bobobo8b2o21bo3b2o12b2o$344b3o$303bo2bo$194b
o2bo3bo6b2o4bo19bo4b2o103b3o$207bobo4bobo15bobo4bobo57bobobo2bobobo8b
2o21bo3b2o12b2o$194bo2bo3bo4b3o6bo2bo11bo2bo6b3o76b2o21bobo2b2o11b2o$
206b2o5bobob3o9b3obobo5b2o98bo5bo$194bo2bobobo5b2o3b4o3b2o7b2o3b4o3b2o
100bo2b2o$208b3obobo5b2o5b2o5bobob3o101bo$194bo6bo7bo2bo6b3o5b3o6bo2b
o$211bobo4bobo7bobo4bobo$194bo6bo11bo4b2o9b2o4bo$224b3o$224bobo$224b3o
$213bo4b2o9b2o4bo60bo2bobobo2bo3bo$211bobo4bobo7bobo4bobo$209bo2bo6b3o
5b3o6bo2bo56bo6bo2bo3bo$208b3obobo5b2o5b2o5bobob3o110bo$207b2o3b4o3b2o
7b2o3b4o3b2o54bo2bobobo2bobobo38b3o$206b2o5bobob3o9b3obobo5b2o105bo$206b
3o6bo2bo11bo2bo6b3o53bo2bo10bo32b2o4bo$207bobo4bobo15bobo4bobo101b2o5b
o$208b2o4bo19bo4b2o55bo2bobobo6bo35b3obo$344bobob2o$344bob2o$194bo2bo
bobo15b2ob2o$217bo3bo95b2o27bo$194bo2bo3bo16b3o97bo2b2o22b3o$318bobo2b
o$194bo2bobobo14b7o96bo2b2o$216bo2bo2bo104bo5b3o$194bo2bo3bo8b2o15b2o
94b2o2b3o2bo3bo$206b2obob4o9b4obob2o88bob2o2bo3bo5bo$194bo2bobobo4b2o
bo2b2obo2b3o2bob2o2bob2o88bobo7bo2bo2bo$209bo4bo3bobo3bo4bo91bo9b3ob3o
$209b2o7b3o7b2o91bo2$213b2o9b2o$213bo2bo5bo2bo3$213bob2o5b2obo$208b2o
2bobo9bobo2b2o$208bo4bo11bo4bo124b3o$212bo13bo128b3o$209bo2bo13bo2bo120b
3o3bo$349b5obo$350b4o2bo$353bob2obo$194bobobo2bo12b2o9bo104b3o21bo2bo
bo$215bo9bo129b2o2bo$198bo2bo12bo10bo103bo3bo25b2o$214b4o6b2o$194bobo
bo2bo10b2o4bo3bo106bo2bo$208b2obobob3o3bo4bo101bo2b2o$194bo6bo6b2obo3b
o5bo105bobobo2bo$211b2o10b3o101bob3o3bo$194bobobo2bo6b3o117bobobobo$207b
o2bo23bo94bo$207b2o14bo9bobo90b3o$203bob2o10b3o2bobo8bobo90bo$203b2ob
ob2o22b2obob2o$206bobo8bobo2b3o10b2obo$206bobo9bo14b2o$207bo23bo2bo$231b
3o$216b3o10b2o99b2o$220bo5bo3bob2o96b2obo$215bo4bo3b3obobob2o100bo$219b
o3bo4b2o62bobobo2bobobo2bobobo20bo$216b2o6b4o104bob2o$216bo10bo68bo2b
o3bo2bo3bo23b2o$216bo9bo$216bo9b2o64bobobo2bobobo2bobobo11b2o$323bo$292b
o6bo3bo2bo3bo12bobo$229b2o93b2o$213b2o14bo62bobobo2bobobo2bobobo$190b
obobo2bobobo10bobo12bobo91b2o$208b2o2bo14b2o92b2o$194bo6bo6bobob2o$210b
o3bo$190bobobo6bo8bob2o9bo6b2o136b2o$208b2o2b2o8b3o6bo136b2o$190bo10b
o5bo2b2o19bob2o$207b2obo19b2o2bo$190bobobo6bo8bo6b3o8b2o2b2o88bo47bo$
210b2o6bo9b2obo89bobo45bobo5b2o$227bo3bo88b2ob2o45bo5bo2bo$228b2obobo
86bo2bo47b3o5bo$213b2o14bo2b2o85b2ob2o49bo$212bobo12bobo90bobo56bo$212b
o14b2o92bo53bo3bo$211b2o162bo2bo$378bo$377b2o$352b2o22b3o$326bo25b2o$
190bobobo2bobobo124b3o$213b3o18b3o84b2o6bo$194bo2bo3bo10bo3bo5bo10bo3b
o20b2o61b2o5bobo46b3o$211bo5bo3bobo8bo5bo19b2o69bo47b2o$190bobobo2bo3b
o18bo3bo131bo11b2o7bo$210bo7bobo3bo6bo7bo116b2o9bo2bo6bo2bo$194bo2bo3b
o8bo7bob2ob2o6bo7bo90b2o11bo21bo4bo5bo3bo$259bo70b2o9bo2bo10bo8b6o6bo
$190bobobo2bobobo9bo5bo14bo5bo19b3o79bo3bo9bo8b2obo$212bo3bo16bo3bo19b
o3bo78bo5bo7bo9bobo9bo$213b3o18b3o19bob3obo77bobo2b3o4bo4bo7b2o9bo2bo
$257b5o83bobo3bo5bo19b2o$345b2o4b2o3bo$353b3o18b2o$374bobo$376bo$376b
2o2$224bo139b2o$224b3o137b2obo$227bo140bo$226b2o8b2o6b2o119bo$235bo2b
o4bo2bo119bob2o$229b2o3b6o2b6o120b2o$228bobo4bo2bo4bo2bo$228bo7b2o6b2o
$228bobo$229b2o26b5o$256bob3obo$257bo3bo$214b2o6b2o34b3o$213bo2bo4bo2b
o34bo$212b6o2b6o$213bo2bo4bo2bo$214b2o6b2o8b2o$232bo25b2o$233b3o22b2o
$235bo!

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » November 13th, 2024, 3:45 am

WhiteHawk wrote:
November 12th, 2024, 8:42 pm
[...] Should there be a LifeWiki page for 4diagonal? [...][/pattern]
I think the CA "B34c/S234c" is more interesting, and has more chances to be shown notable in the sense of LW:NB, compared to "B34c/S23": https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b34cs234c

To the question, I think my answer is "No", unless someone is willing to put in all the effort to prove notability of that particular cellular automaton (including collecting and adding links to available sources related to exploring it). If the idea is just to create a short stub, without going all the way through and documenting the existing knowledge about B34c/S23 in a clear human-readable way, then it is better to avoid creating a page at all. Incomplete abandoned stubs can (and often do) mislead instead of helping.
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by WhiteHawk » November 14th, 2024, 12:53 am

Where did all of the other pre-pulsar hasslers go?

Pre-pulsar hasslers only shows a P13 also on the TL page, though there are other periods listed in the Known Periods box.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Sokwe » November 14th, 2024, 1:07 am

WhiteHawk wrote:
November 14th, 2024, 12:53 am
Where did all of the other pre-pulsar hasslers go?

Pre-pulsar hasslers only shows a P13 also on the TL page, though there are other periods listed in the Known Periods box.
They didn't go anywhere. They were never there. I tried to get people to build out the page, but nobody has done it so far.

Also, I moved your post to the LifeWiki discussion forum.
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » November 14th, 2024, 5:39 am

The first embedded viewer in https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?titl ... did=156869 currently has a very long caption, which spans multiple lines and contains several enforced linebreaks.

I suggest instead to put the viewer into a new section named "Catalyst variants" (located immediately after the lead section), and to move the long explanatory text away from the viewer caption and into the section text (getting rid of the HTML linebreaks as well).
The viewer caption should be kept reasonably short, and ideally single-line, for example just "Four Snark catalyst variants".

Also, the edit https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?titl ... did=156869 added a misspelling (it's != its), which happened repeatedly in multiple other pages as well.
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Chris857 » November 15th, 2024, 10:40 am

https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?titl ... did=156805
In this set of changes, a couple patterns which were using RLE files (pname=p40honeyfarmhassler4 and pname=p42honeyfarmshuttle) now have inline RLE patterns but did not remove the pname lines, nor did they update the RLE files. I'd prefer the latter, but the current situation is just weird and this has happened multiple times to other files.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » November 15th, 2024, 10:53 am

Chris857 wrote:
November 15th, 2024, 10:40 am
https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?titl ... did=156805
In this set of changes, a couple patterns which were using RLE files (pname=p40honeyfarmhassler4 and pname=p42honeyfarmshuttle) now have inline RLE patterns but did not remove the pname lines, nor did they update the RLE files. I'd prefer the latter, but the current situation is just weird and this has happened multiple times to other files.
Agree, that should be fixed.
Also in the same linked diff, a couple of ZOOMs were changed away from even values, and to odd values.
Assuming THUMBSIZE 2 (which is the case there), all ZOOM values should be even, to avoid undesirable distortions in the size of cells and/or grid lines.
In general, ZOOM should be a multiple of THUMBSIZE.
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Post by pifricted » November 17th, 2024, 12:47 am

Edit Template:EmbedViewerRule to fix Template:Rule:

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 <includeonly><center>{{#if: {{{r|}}} | {{LV:Viewer|x = 64, y = 64, rule = R{{{r|}}},C{{{c|}}},S{{{s}}},B{{{b}}},N{{{n|}}} 
! #C [[ THEME Fire ]] {{LifeViewer config/rule}} }}
| {{#if: {{{f|}}} | {{LV:Viewer|x = 64, y = 64, rule = B{{{b|}}}/S{{{s|}}}/F{{{f|}}}/K{{{k|}}}/L{{{l|}}}
! #C [[ THEME Yellow ]] {{LifeViewer config/rule}} }}
| {{#if: {{{c|}}} | {{LV:Viewer|x = 64, y = 64, rule ={{{s|}}}/{{{b|}}}/{{{c|}}}
! #C [[ THEME Generations ]] {{LifeViewer config/rule}} }}
| {{LV:Viewer|x = 64, y = 64, rule = B{{{b|}}}/S{{{s|}}}
! #C [[ THEME Inverse ]] {{LifeViewer config/rule}} }}
}}
}}
}}
<small>[[LifeViewer]]-generated pseudorandom [[soup]]<br></small></center></includeonly><noinclude>{{ambox|text=See [[LifeWiki:Tiki bar#Suggested deprecation of EmbedViewerRule]]}}
This is a template based on [[LV:Viewer]] that should only be used in [[Template:Rule]]. LifeViewer generated from this template will show a random 64×64 soup under the corresponding rule and evolve it, the parameters are defined in [[Template:LifeViewer config/rule]].
[[Category:LifeViewer templates]][[Category:Infobox subtemplates]]
</noinclude>
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 21st, 2024, 9:29 pm

Can this be added to the R hasslers page? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1437&p=190679#p190797

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » November 22nd, 2024, 1:04 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
November 21st, 2024, 9:29 pm
Can this be added to the R hasslers page? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1437&p=190679#p190797
Related discussion about hassler pages:
viewtopic.php?p=196793#p196793 (in this thread)
https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?oldi ... sler_pages Alternatives to hassler pages
viewtopic.php?p=198395#p198395 Basic questions
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=6290 Criteria for page listing hasslers
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