The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » October 17th, 2020, 8:53 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 8:37 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 8:26 pm
I think that you're overstating what I did. In my opinion, my conduits are extremely messy due to what would be a half-hearted placement of catalysts for anyone who knew how at least six catalysts worked.
I know how at least six catalysts work (Block, boat, eater 1, eater 2, eater 3, snake, and that ship catalysis that I may or may not have found), and you still did better than me.
Edit: Lol

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x = 18, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
6.A$6.3A$9.A$8.2A6$2A$.A11.D$.A.A8.3D$2.2A10.D12$3.2A$3.2A5.C$9.3C4.
2A$11.C4.2A!
That is the latest that I have ever seen something enter the R sequence.

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x = 22, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
21.A$8.A10.3A$8.3A7.A$11.A6.2A$A9.2A$3A$3.A$2.2A3$4.2A$5.A$5.A.A$6.2A8$14.D$13.3D$13.D2$7.2A$7.2A5.C$13.3C4.2A$15.C4.2A!
Could you please explain to me how the block, boat, snake, and ship work? (I might be starting to understand the block.)
Marine has a non-centered Moore neighborhood and at least one gun with a very high period (11,843).
I'm in the process of reducing the glider cost of universal construction.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by wwei23 » October 17th, 2020, 9:07 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 8:53 pm
Could you please explain to me how the block, boat, snake, and ship work? (I might be starting to understand the block.)
This is an example usage of a boat. (My searches tend to turn up tons of still life factories.) In this case, it actually reacts twice in quick succession.

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x = 17, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
5.A$5.3A7.2A$8.A6.A$7.2A4.A.A$13.2A4$2A$.A$.A.A$2.2A4$.A$A.A6.A$2A6.
3A4.2A$10.A4.2A!
An example of a snake usage would be this here. I was sadly unable to fully stabilize it, and the snake gets destroyed soon after its catalysis of the reaction.

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x = 17, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
5.A$5.3A$8.A$7.2A7$12.D$A.2A7.3D$2A.A9.D12$2.2A$2.2A5.C$8.3C4.2A$10.C
4.2A!
For the block, this block factory is an example.

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
3.A$3.3A$6.A$5.2A6$2A$2A5.A$6.3A4.2A$8.A4.2A!
Finally, an example of a ship catalysis would be one of my attempted stabilizations of your new converter:

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x = 22, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A$4.A.A$5.2A$2A$.A6.2D$.A.A4.2D$2.2A4$15.2A.2D$13.3A2.2D$14.A4$2.
2A$.A.A$.A$2A19.D$19.3D$18.2D$18.D!
Explaining how to use catalysts is difficult, maybe Gustavo's and EvinZL's cheat sheets would be useful to you.
EvinZL:

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x = 75, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
32.A2.2A$33.2A$20.A36.2A$20.A13.A23.A$4.A15.2A11.A.A$2A.2A12.2A14.2A
23.A3.2A$2A14.A.A38.A.A3.A$16.A39.A.A3.A$15.2A39.A4.A$55.2A5.3A$64.A$
5.A27.A$4.A17.A9.2A$2A.A18.A12.2A19.2A$2A2.A17.2A10.A2.A2.2A15.A2.2A$
5.A11.A.2A13.A.A4.A2.A12.A2.2A$15.3A.2A14.A5.A.A.A10.A$14.A23.2A.A2.A
$15.3A.2A17.A2.A15.2A$17.A.A15.A4.A16.A.A$17.A.A15.5A15.A.A.3A$18.A
36.2A5.A$37.A23.2A$36.A.A$37.A3$58.2A$58.2A$60.A12.A$59.A10.A.A$59.A
11.A2$60.2A10.2A$60.A.A9.A.A$61.2A10.2A2$58.2A10.2A$59.A11.A$56.3A9.
3A$56.A11.A!
Gustavo:

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x = 170, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
15.5D.6D.6D4.5D$15.5D.6D.6D4.5D$15.2D4.2D2.2D3.2D6.2D$15.2D4.6D3.2D6.
5D$15.2D4.6D3.2D6.5D$15.2D4.2D2.2D3.2D9.2D$15.5D.2D2.2D3.2D3.2D.5D$
15.5D.2D2.2D3.2D3.2D.5D5$97.D20.D7.5D11.D$97.D20.D7.D15.D23.3D$97.D
20.D7.D13.5D20.D3.D$32.A26.2D18.D6.3D4.2D2.D10.D5.D2.D8.D7.3D5.D4.3D
2.D16.D$22.A8.A6.A7.D6.3D2.D2.D17.D.3D.D3.D2.D2.D.D10.D5.D2.D8.3D4.D
3.D4.D3.D3.D.D.2D12.D$5.3D2.D9.A9.A7.A6.2D6.D7.D3.D.2D10.2D4.D3.D2.D
2.D.D10.D2.D2.D2.D8.D10.D4.D3.D3.D.2D13.D$5.D3.2D9.2A8.2A6.A5.7D2.D5.
3D3.2D2.D9.D5.4D3.3D2.D10.D2.D2.D.D9.D7.4D4.D3.4D2.D13.D$5.3D2.D6.EC
8.EC6.EC2.2A4.2D6.D4.D2.D3.D3.D9.D5.D6.D4.D11.D.D.D2.D9.D6.D3.D4.D3.D
5.D12.D$5.D4.D5.E.E7.E.E5.E.E9.D6.3D3.2D.2D.D3.D9.D6.3D3.D4.D.D10.D.D
3.D9.5D3.3D.D3.D4.3D2.D12.5D$5.3D.3D4.E9.E7.E57.D$15.2E8.2E6.2E57.D$
92.D3$16.A.2A$4.3D5.D4.2A$5.D2.D.D.D$5.D2.D.D.2D2.C$5.D2.3D.2D.E.E$
16.E3$15.2A.A$16.2A$3D7.3D$.D9.D4.C$.D2.D.D.D2.D3.E.E$.D2.D.D.D2.D4.E
.E$.D3.D.D3.D6.E$18.2E4$26.A$26.2A$5.3D2.2D11.2C$5.D3.D2.D5.2E2.C2.C$
5.3D3.2D5.E4.C.C$5.D3.D2.D2.2E.E5.C$5.3D2.2D4.E.E.2E$15.E2.E2.E$15.2E
2.E4.E$20.5E2$19.E.2E$19.2E.E!
Also, this blinker factory might be of some use, I didn't think it was, but then I realized that the blinker gets placed decently far away from any catalysts. It's still in the reaction envelope though.

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x = 9, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$5.3A$4.A$4.2A8$.A$3A4.2A$2.A4.2A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » October 17th, 2020, 9:31 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 9:07 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 8:53 pm
Could you please explain to me how the block, boat, snake, and ship work? (I might be starting to understand the block.)
This is an example usage of a boat…
I somewhat get it now, but do you have broader descriptions instead of specific examples? Here are examples of what I mean.
  • A fishhook works in situations like this where the two cells are stabilized and the bottom cell was not born before the top cell.

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    x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
    o$o$2b2o$2bobo$4bo$4b2o!
  • If a fishhook fails because it recovers too quickly before the sparks from the catalysis clear then interacts with another spark, try replacing the fishhook with an eater 2, which has a slightly slower recovery time and recovers in a different way.

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    x = 10, y = 9, rule = DoubleB3S23
    2C$C$3.2C.A$3.CAB3A$5.B3.A$3.2ABC2A$4.A.A$4.A.A$5.A!
    An eater 2 may also work if a catalyst needs to perform a fishhook-type catalysis in two different orientations.
  • An eater 3 works in the following arrangement where the cell closest to the loaf has formed after the other two.

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    x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
    8bo$8b2o$5b2o$2o2bo2bo$o4bobo$o5bo$ob2o$o2bo$bo4bo$2b5o!
    It can also work if other cells are attached to those three cells.

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    x = 15, y = 15, rule = DoubleB3S23
    12.B.A$12.2C$13.CA$9.2C$4.2C2.C2.C$.C2.C4.C.C$C.C.C5.C$.C2.C.2C$4.C2.C$5.C4.C$6.5C2$8.C$7.C.C$8.C!
By the way, has anyone looked for a syringe replacement that takes advantage of the fact that a beehive can serve as a one-glider seed for an R-pentomino? I think that this might be worthwhile for three main reasons:
  • An R-pentomino can be converted to a B-heptomino or Herschel relatively quickly and easily compared to a ∏-heptomino because it spawns them naturally.
  • Beehives are common, so transparent beehive reactions are feasible, such as in the boojum, the rectifier, and the original century eater in the bistable switch.
  • An R-pentomino naturally splits into two active regions early on that don't interact with each other until about 80 generations later, so it should be easy to use one to export a signal and use the other to restore the beehive.
Marine has a non-centered Moore neighborhood and at least one gun with a very high period (11,843).
I'm in the process of reducing the glider cost of universal construction.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by bubblegum » October 17th, 2020, 9:33 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 9:07 pm
An example of a snake usage would be this here. I was sadly unable to fully stabilize it, and the snake gets destroyed soon after its catalysis of the reaction.

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x = 17, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
5.A$5.3A$8.A$7.2A7$12.D$A.2A7.3D$2A.A9.D12$2.2A$2.2A5.C$8.3C4.2A$10.C
4.2A!

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x = 19, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
11.3D$12.D$10.3D16$10.2A$10.2A2$.2A.A7.C$.A.2A6.3C$10.2C.C!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by wwei23 » October 17th, 2020, 9:44 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 9:31 pm
I somewhat get it now, but do you have broader descriptions instead of specific examples?
I hate to say it, but not really. The best description I really have is:
"I put catalysts where they look like they might work, if they work, great! If not, then I try somewhere else."

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » October 17th, 2020, 10:04 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 9:44 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 9:31 pm
I somewhat get it now, but do you have broader descriptions instead of specific examples?
I hate to say it, but not really. The best description I really have is:
"I put catalysts where they look like they might work, if they work, great! If not, then I try somewhere else."
I guess that I'll learn eventually.
Also, let me add to my description of fishhook catalyses.
MathAndCode wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 9:31 pm
A fishhook works in situations like this where the two cells are stabilized and the bottom cell was not born before the top cell.

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
o$o$2b2o$2bobo$4bo$4b2o!
Fishhooks may recover in more unusual ways, but this is rare, and the fishhook must not lose any of its cells besides the one at the outward tip of its preblock in order for it to recover. In this example, the fishhook does four catalyses. Only the third has an unusual recovery method (due to the fact that one of the cells in the ∏-heptomino that interacted with the fishhook was not sufficiently supported and therefore died), and the fishhook did not lose any of its cells besides the one at the outward tip of its preblock.

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
14bo$14bo$9bo2bo$9b2obo$8bob2o$8b3o4$2b2o$3bo$3o$o!
If one wants a fishhook to do one catalysis then disappear without interacting in any other way, try replacing it with a block.
MathAndCode wrote:
October 16th, 2020, 10:40 am
Here's another partial R−B to queen bee catalyst.

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x = 16, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
6.2D$2A3.D.D$2A2.D$4.D2.D$4.D$5.D.D$6.2D$15.A$11.3A$10.4A$9.2A$9.2A$10.2A3$7.2A$8.A$5.3A$5.A!
#C [[ T 64 PAUSE 1 ]]
MathAndCode wrote:
October 16th, 2020, 11:37 pm
Kazyan wrote:
October 16th, 2020, 11:31 pm
Regarding the 'bait' reactions that consume blocks but create useful outputs away from the bait, keep doing those. Bait restoration is difficult, but not impossible. Ideally, when consumed, the bait will create a smallish active region around it, won't be crowded out by other catalysts nearby, and will do its jobs as bait relatively quickly. Under those conditions, engineering a block restoration has the highest chance of success.
The R−B to queen bee catalyst originally used a fishhook instead of a block.

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x = 18, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
2A$.A6.2D$.A.A3.D.D$2.2A2.D$6.D2.D$6.D$7.D.D$8.2D$17.A$13.3A$12.4A$11.2A$11.2A$12.2A3$9.2A$10.A$7.3A$7.A!
#C [[ T 64 PAUSE 1 ]]
However, I replaced the fishhook with a block because I figured that the queen bee would be practically useless if it crashed into the fishhook right away.
Last edited by MathAndCode on October 22nd, 2020, 7:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by wwei23 » October 17th, 2020, 10:18 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 6:46 pm
Edit: Here's another messy R conduit.
Hey, at least P15 is better than nothing.

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x = 29, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
17.A$17.3A$20.A$19.2A5$10.A$10.3A$13.A10.D$12.2A9.3D$25.D4$.2A6.2A$A
2.A4.A2.A$A2.A4.A2.A$A2.A4.A2.A$.2A6.2A4$14.2A$14.2A5.C$20.3C4.2A$22.
C4.2A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » October 17th, 2020, 10:25 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 10:18 pm
Hey, at least P15 is better than nothing.

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x = 29, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
17.A$17.3A$20.A$19.2A5$10.A$10.3A$13.A10.D$12.2A9.3D$25.D4$.2A6.2A$A
2.A4.A2.A$A2.A4.A2.A$A2.A4.A2.A$.2A6.2A4$14.2A$14.2A5.C$20.3C4.2A$22.
C4.2A!
Even if it were only p15, that would be good, but sparkers with other periods probably work as well. Good job!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by wwei23 » October 17th, 2020, 10:49 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 10:25 pm
Even if it were only p15, that would be good, but sparkers with other periods probably work as well. Good job!
The minimum period appears to be 7, assuming that the V-spark is delivered at c/2.

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x = 155, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
.A19.A19.A19.A19.A19.A19.A19.A$.3A17.3A17.3A17.3A17.3A17.3A17.3A17.3A
$4.A19.A19.A19.A19.A19.A19.A19.A$3.2A18.2A18.2A18.2A18.2A18.2A18.2A
18.2A2$7.A19.A18.2A18.2A18.2A18.2A18.2A17.3A$6.A.A17.2A17.A2.A17.A.A
17.A2.A15.2A18.2A18.3A$5.A19.3A20.A18.3A16.A$6.A18.3A5.A10.A3.A18.3A
3.A16.A20.A.A17.A.A$B2.D2.2A.2A.3A5.B2.D.3A5.A6.2B.D4.A3.3A5.2B.D2A.
3A3.A6.3BD6.A.3A5.3BD7.A.A6.3BC7.A.A6.3BC7.A.2A$B3.D15.2B.AC2.A2.A2.A
6.2B2.CA.A.A10.3B.D2.A.A3.A6.3B.D.2A12.4BD2.A.A.A.A6.4BD2.A.A.A.A6.4B
C3.2A.A$B2.D4.2A10.B2.D4.2A10.2B.D4.2A10.2B.D4.3A9.3BD4.A.A9.3BD4.A.
2A8.3BC4.A.2A8.3BC4.5A$9.A40.A19.A17.A.2A$8.3A17.3A17.3A17.A2.A18.2A$
29.A18.3A17.A.A17.A.A19.2A18.2A18.A$69.A19.A19.A19.A20.A!
I only know of one other V-sparker. The P64 thunderbird hassler provides such a suitable spark:

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x = 32, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
20.A$20.3A$23.A$3.2A17.2A2$.A3.A$.A4.A$3.A.A.A$4.A.A.A4.A$5.A4.A2.3A$
6.A3.A5.A10.D$15.2A9.3D$7.2A19.D5$A5.2A4.A$A4.A2.A.2A.2A$A5.2A4.A5$7.
2A8.2A$17.2A5.C$6.A3.A12.3C4.2A$5.A4.A14.C4.2A$4.A.A.A$3.A.A.A$.A4.A$
.A3.A2$3.2A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by A for awesome » October 17th, 2020, 11:11 pm

Here are most of the catalysts I have in my "mental library":

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x = 166, y = 596, rule = B3/S23
12bo52bo$11bobo2b2obo3bo14bo13bo4b3o6bo36bo7bo32bo9bo$5b2o4bobo3b3o4b
obo4bo2bo3b2o5bo4b2o5b3o5bo38bobo4bo2bo30bo7bo$6bo5bo5bo6bo5b4o5b5o5b
obo5bo5bo40bo6bobo27bob2o3b2ob2o$70bobobo$6b2o4b2o4b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o8b2o
6b2o5b2o40b2o7b2o27bo6bo$6b2o4b2o4b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o8b2o6b2o5b2o40bobo6b
obo25bobo4bobo$107b2o7b2o24bob2o3bob2o$142bo6bo$104b2o7b2o26b2o5b2o$105b
o8bo$102b3o6b3o$32bo69bo8bo2$28b5o3bo$4bo8bo5b2obo5bo2bo2bo112bobo$11b
obo9bo7bo3bo6b2o103bo$5b3o3b3o6b3o5b2o6b2o5b4o56bo12bo30bobo$104b2o11b
2o8b2o15b2o$7bo5bo5bo7bo7bo6bo7bobobo71bobo14bo2bo$6bobo3bobo3bobo5bo
bo5bobo4bobo60bobo10bobo6bo15bob2o$7bo5bo5bo7bo7bo6bo62bo12bo6b2obo13b
o$124bo3b3o10b2o$106b2o11b2o3b2obo3bo$103bobo2bo9bo2bo6bobo$101b3obob
2o9bobo3b5ob2o$100bo4bo13bo4bo4bo$19bo81b3obo4b2o13b3obo10b2o$18bo19b
o64b2o5bo16bob2o10bo$7b2o8bo4b3o12b4obo68b3o13bo13bobo4bo$6b2o9bo7b2o
3b4obo5bo71bo12b2o14b2o3bo$17bobo127bobo$7bo7bo10bo7bo6b2o104bo2bo$6b
obo5bobo8bobo5bobo5bobo100b2o4bo$6b2o6b2o9b2o6b2o7bo100bo2bo$101b2o39b
ob2o4b2o$101bo6bo33bo$105b2o34b2o$102bo2b2o45b2o$103b3o46b2o$10b2o92b
o35b2o$8b2o98b2o31bo$8bo95b2o2b2o31bobo$104b2o36b2o14b2o$6b2o144b2o4b
2o$5bo2bo143bobo$6b2o144bobo$144b2o7b2o$143bo2bo$119bo22bob2o$105b2o11b
o23bo$102bo2b2o10bo23b2o$21bo81b3o11bobo$19bobo82bo13bo9bobobo$13b2ob
o2bob2o$12bobo2bo14bo71b2o11b2o26bo16bo$7bo9bo14b2o70b2o2b2o7b2o2b2o21b
obo14bobo$7bo7bobo12bo77bobo10bobo21bo16bo$7bo8bo13bo79bo12bo$30bo2bo
76b2o11b2o18b5o12b5o$5b2o2b3o5b2o8b2o3bo109bo4bo11bo4bo$5bobo9bobo7bo
bo2bo2bo105bo2bo13bo2bo$6b2o10b2o8b2o108bo2bob2o10bo2bob2o$33b2o102bo
bobo4b2o6bobobo4b3o$105bo32bo2bo3bo2bo6bo2bo3bo$104bobo34b2o2bo12b2o2b
obo$104bobo39b2o15bo$105bo57b3o$164bo$103b2ob2o57bo$104bobo$102bobobo
bo$20bo81b2o3b2o2$7b2o4bo3bob2o$5b2o3bob2o3b3o3bo$5bo5bo6bo4b2o2$6b2o
4b2o5b2o84b2o$7bo5bo6bo84bo$6bo5bo6bo$6b2o4b2o5b2o82b2ob2o$102bobobob
o$99bo2bobo3b3o$99b4obobo4bo$104b2ob2ob2o$2bo98b3o3bo$101bo2b2obo$3b3o
98bobo$7bo$6bobo$6bo2bo$7b2o$104b3o4b2ob2o$105bo7bo2$104bobo5bobo$103b
ob2o4bob2o$56bo46bo7bo$12bo6bo35bobo44b2o6b2o$9bobo6bo8bo4bo22bo2bo5b
2o2bo$9b2o7b3o6b5o5b3o5b2o9b2o7b3o2$7b2o7b2o7b2o8b2o6b2o2b3o4b2o8bo6b
obobo$8bo8bo8bo9bo7bo10bo6b3o$5b3o6b3o6b3o7b3o5b3o8b3o6bo47bo$5bo8bo8b
o9bo7bo10bo8b2o45bo$105b3o$106bo$70bobo28b2o7b2o$71b2o28bo2b2ob2o2bo$
71bo6bo23b2obobob2o$19bo24bo32bobo25bobo$4b2o11bobo10bo8b5o20bo12bobo
20b5o3b5o$4b2o12b2o8b3o34bo12bo20bo2bo7bo2bo$63b3o33b2o11b2o$6b2obo10b
2obo7b2obo7b2obo9b2obo8b2o9b2obo$6b2ob3o8b2ob3o5b2ob3o5b2ob3o7b2ob3o6b
2o9b2ob3o$12bo13bo10bo10bo12bo13bo8bo$6b2ob3o8b2ob3o5b2ob3o5b2ob3o6bo
b5o5bob3o4b5ob3o$7bobo11bobo8bobo8bobo8b2o10b2o3bo8b2o$7bobo11bobo8bo
bo8bobo11b2o10b2o6b2o$8bo13bo10bo10bo13bo6bob2o8bo26bo$57bo7b2obo9bo25b
o$57b2o18b2o24bobo$104bo$17bo86bo$99b2o$7b2o2bo6b3o78bo4b2o$11b2o26b2o
59bo3b2o$9bobo7b2o7bo72bo$8b2o2bo5bo7bobo11bobo56bob5o$27b2o69bobo4bo
$7b2o10b2o9b2o2b2o6b2o2b2o50bobo2bo$4bo3bo7bo3bo6bo3bo2b2o3bo3bo2b2o51b
o3b2o$4b4o8b4o7b4o8b4o2$4b2o10b2o9b2o10b2o$4b2o10b2o9b2o10b2o$103bo$69b
2o$103b3o$23b3o19bo12bo12bo7bo$7bo35bo15bo12bo4b3o23bobo$5bobo18bo16b
o15bo12bo3bo27bo$6b2o15b3o15b2o14b2o11b2o4b2o21bo$13b2o16b2o15b2o14b2o
32bobo3b2o$8b2obo2bo11b2obo2bo10b2obo2bo9b2obo2bo6b2o25bo4b2o$7bobob3o
11bobob3o10bobob3o9bobob3o7bo2b2o$2b2o3bobo10b2o3bobo9b2o3bobo8b2o3bo
bo12b3obo$2bo2bobob3o8bo2bobob3o7bo2bobob3o6bo2bobob3o14bo25b2o$3b4ob
o3bo8b4obo3bo7b4obo3bo6b4obo3bo11b2o26b2o$8bo2b2o13bo2b2o12bo2b2o11bo
2b2o11bo$5b3o15b3o14b3o13b3o17bo$5bo17bo16bo15bo18b2o$105bo2$2bo100b3o
$2bo$3bo99bobo$4b3o97bo2$7b2o90b2o3b2o$4bo2bo91bo4b2o$2obobobobo87bob
o$ob2obo2b2o87b2o$5bo97b2o$5b2o96b2o3$107bo$31b2o74bo$33b2o71bo$bo2b2o
2b2o12b2o10bo2b2o6bob2o3b2o52b2o$2bo2bo3bo5bo2bo4bo9b2o3bo6bo2bo4bo53b
o$2b3o4bob2o3bobo4bob2o11bob2o4bobo4bob2o$6b2ob2obo4bo2b2ob2obo8b2ob2o
bo5bo2b2ob2obo43b2obobobo$7bo13bo14bo14bo48bob2ob2obo$5bobo11bobo12bo
bo12bobo56bo$5b2o12b2o13b2o13b2o57b2o4$15b2o$104bo$3bo10b2o88bo$4b4o8b
3o85bo2$8b2o9b2o76b2obob2o$8bobo8bobo75bob2obobobo$10bo10bo80bob2obo$
9bo10bo81b2o3bo$10b3o8b3o81b2o$12bo10bo77bob2o$101b2obo7$4b2o$4b2o$7b
2o94b2o$6bo2bo2b2o90b2o$6bobo4bo2bo87bo$7bo5bobobo79b2o$10b2obo2bo80b
o2bo$10bo2bo85b2o$7bo4bo87bobobo$7b5o86bo2bob2o$98b2obo$9bo91bo$8bobo
90b2o$9bo4$25bo$24bo76bo14b2o$10b2o11bo77bo13bo$9bo2bo9bo4bo74bo10bo$
10b3o10b4o74bo11bo$101bo11bo$6bo2bo9bo2bo$6b4o9b4o79b2o10b2o$12bo12bo
76bobob2o6bobob2o$8b5o8b5o74bobob2obo4bobob2obo$8bo12bo78b2o10b2o$10b
o12bo$9b2o11b2o4$93bo$16bo76b2o5bo$8bo5bobo76bo2b3o2b3o$9bo3bo88bo$10b
3o$101b2o$9bo91b2o$8bobob2o91bo$9b2obo2bo85b5o$11bo2b2o85bo$8bobo92bo
$8b2o92b2o4$10bo$9bo11b2o$8bo3bo8b2o$8bo2bobo2bo$8bo3bo3bo$9bo5bo$10b
o3bo$11b3o2$5b2o3bo$5bo3bobob2o$6bo3b2obo2bo$7bo4bo2b2o$5bob5o$4bobo$
4bo2b3o$3b2o4bo3$10bo10bo11bo$11bo10bo11bo$8bobo8bobo9bobo$9b2o9b2o10b
2o$14b2o$10bo3b2o5bo3b2o6bo3b2o$9bobo8bobo3bo5bobo3bo$8bobo8bobo3bo6b
2o3bo$8bo10bo4bo11bo$7b2o9b2o5b3o4b5obo$27bo4bo4bobo$34bo2bobo$33b2o3b
o4$10bo$9bobo$9b2o2$10bo$9bobobob2o$8bob2ob2obo$8bo$7b2o4$6bo$6b3o$9b
o$8b2o4b2o$12bo2bo$9bo2b2o$8bobobo$8b2o2bo$12b2o6$11bo$8b4o2$12bo$12b
2o$12b2o$13bo4$6bo$6bo$7bo10b2ob2o$8b3o8b2o2$9bo2bo5bo2bo$9b4o5b4o2$9b
2o7b2o$9b2o7b2o7$10bo$8bo5bo$9bo3bo$10b3o2$9bo3bo$5bo2bobobobo2bo$5b4o
bobob4o$9bo3bo$7bo7bo$7b2o5b2o5$9bo5b2o$10bo5bo$10bo5bob2o$6bo3bo4b2o
2bo$7b3o2bo4b2o$12b5o$10b2o4bo$11bo2b2o$11bobo$6bo2bobobo$6b4ob2o$10b
o$8bobo$8b2o4$9b2o$9b2o3$11b2o$11bo2bo$11bobo$11b3o2$10bo3bo$9bobobob
o$10b2ob2o4$8bo7b2o5bo7b2o$9bo6bo4b2o2bo5bo$9bo4bobo6b2o4bobo$9b2o3b2o
8b2o3b2o2$11b2o13b2o$10bobo12bobo$10b2o13b2o2$13b2o13b2o$13bo14bo$14b
3o12b3o$16bo14bo6bo$19bo16bo$19bo17bo$19bo18bo8b2o$10bo11bo15bo8bo$7b
o2bo8b2o2bo14bo11b2o$8b3o10bobo10bo2bo10b2o$21bobo11b2o$11b2obo2bo4bo
2b2obo2bo6b2obo2bo5b2obo2bo4bobobo$12bob4o8bob4o7bob4o6bob4o$10bobo11b
obo10bobo9bobo$10b2o2b2o8b2o2b2o7b2o2b2o6b2o2b2o$15bo13bo12bo11bo$14b
o13bo12bo11bo$14b2o12b2o11b2o10b2o5$13bobo$13bobo$13b3o2$11bo2bo2bo$11b
7o2$13b3o$13bo2bo$15b2o3$102b2o$102b2o2$12bo6b2o$12bo6b2o84b2o$13b2o82b
o4b3o$14bo17b2o8bo53bo$15b2o11bo4bo8b2o51b2o2bobob2o12bo$30bo11b2o13b
ob2o12b2o13b2o9bo2b3o9bo$13b2o13b2o11b3o14b2o10b4o10b5o14bo11b3o$20b2o
13b2o5b2o6b2o13b2o12b2o13b2o2bobo8b2o12b2o$15b2obo2bo8b2obo2bo8b2obo2b
o8b2obo2bo7b2obo2bo8b2obo2bo8b2obo2bo7b2obo2bo$14bobob3o8bobob3o8bobo
b3o8bobob3o7bobob3o8bobob3o8bobob3o7bobob3o4bobobo$11bo2bobo9bo2bobo9b
o2bobo9bo2bobo8bo2bobo9bo2bobo9bo2bobo8bo2bobo$11b4ob3o7b4ob3o7b4ob3o
7b4ob3o6b4ob3o7b4ob3o7b4ob3o6b4ob3o$15bo3bo10bo3bo10bo3bo10bo3bo9bo3b
o10bo3bo10bo3bo9bo3bo$13bobo2b2o8bobo2b2o8bobo2b2o8bobo2b2o7bobo2b2o8b
obo2b2o8bobo2b2o7bobo2b2o$13b2o13b2o13b2o13b2o12b2o13b2o13b2o12b2o8$13b
o2b2ob2o$10b4o3bob2o$17bo$14b2obo$13bo2bo$12bob2o$12bo$11b2o5$13b2o2b
2o$11bo2bo3bo$11b3o4bob2o$15b2ob2obo$13bo2bo$13b2obo$15bo$15bobo$16b2o
4$14bobo2$14b3o2$14bo$13bobo2b2o$13b2o3bobo$20bo$20b2o4$10bo$15bo$10b
2obo$11bobo$14bobo2$14b3o2$16bo$15bobo$16bobo$8b2o3b3o2b3o$8b2o2bo3b2o
3bo$12bob2o2b3o$13bo2bobo$15bobo$16bo4$8b2o7bo$12bo4bo$10bobo4b2o$10b
3obo$14bo$11b2obo$12b2o2$14b2ob2o$14bo3bo$15b3o$17bobo$18b2o3$12bo$13b
o$14bo$15bo$15bo$13bobo$13b2o3b2o$18bobo$15b2obobo$15b2obo2b2o$19bobo
$15b2ob2o2bo$16bobo2b2o$16bobo$17bo3$21b2o$13bo7bo$14bo4bobo$15bo3b2o
$16bo$16bo$14bobo3bo$14b2o3bobo$19bobo$16b2obob2o$16b2obo3bo$20bobo$16b
2ob2ob2o$17bobo$17bobo$18bo5$22b2o$21bobo$21bo$14b4o2b2o4b4o2b2o$33bo
$18b4o8b3o$17bo4bo6bo$17b2o2b2o6b4o$32bo$31bo$31b2o7$17b3o21b3o$16bo3b
o19bo3bo$16bo3bo19bo3bo$16bo3bo19bo3bo$17b3o21b3o$26b2o$18bo8bo14bo7b
2o$17bobo7bob2o10bobo7bo$18bo7b2o2bo10bobo7bob2o$12b2o9bo4b2o12bo7b2o
2bo$11bobo9b5o8b2o9bo4b2o$11bo9b2o4bo7bobo9b5o$10b2o10bo2b2o8bo9b2o4b
o$22bobo9b2o10bo2b2o$17bo2bobobo21bobo$17b4ob2o17bo2bobobo$21bo19b4ob
2o$19bobo23bo$19b2o22bobo$43b2o!
I'm sure I'm forgetting quite a few at the moment. Also most of the examples I give are "first example that worked", not "simplest/clearest example", sorry about that.
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x₁=ηx
V*_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by wwei23 » October 17th, 2020, 11:25 pm

A for awesome wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 11:11 pm
Here are most of the catalysts I have in my "mental library":
Wait, you can let a block eat gliders while also keeping its beehive-style eating reactions? :o

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by A for awesome » October 17th, 2020, 11:56 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 11:25 pm
Wait, you can let a block eat gliders while also keeping its beehive-style eating reactions? :o
You can! I was pretty excited when I discovered that — it's only very rarely useful in my experience, but still really fun.
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x₁=ηx
V*_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Kazyan » October 18th, 2020, 1:37 am

Using one of A for Awesome's catalysts in that list:

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x = 29, y = 44, rule = LifeHistory
20.A$18.3A$17.A$17.2A16$26.2A$26.2A5$C26.A$C.C23.A.A$3C24.A$2.C8$5.2A
$5.A$2.A3.A$2.4A$6.3A$4.A2.A$4.2A3.A$8.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by wwei23 » October 18th, 2020, 1:39 am

Aw yeah! I can't complete that since I'm on my phone right now, but someone, quick! Bounce those gliders into that leftover junk with some Snarks!
Edit: How did you even find that?

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by calcyman » October 18th, 2020, 3:04 am

wwei23 wrote:
October 18th, 2020, 1:39 am
Aw yeah! I can't complete that since I'm on my phone right now, but someone, quick! Bounce those gliders into that leftover junk with some Snarks!
Edit: How did you even find that?
Boojums suffice. Here's a demonstration that it's possible to get an H into that location:

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x = 129, y = 110, rule = LifeHistory
79.2A.A$79.A.2A2$80.5A$75.2A2.A4.A$75.A2.A.BAB$76.A.A.2AB$75.2A.A.4BA
$78.A3.BABA$78.2A2.A2BA$83.2A3B$85.7B$85.9B$85.10B$85.11B$81.14B$81.
14B$80.16B$80.17B$80.11B2A4B$81.10B2A9B$81.24B$81.25B$82.24B$83.24B$
82.26B$83.26B$81.29B$81.2A.21B2A4B$82.A3.18BA2BA3B$79.3A5.9B.8B2A4B$
79.A7.8B3.4B2.6B$89.5B5.4B2.B$89.6B5.4B$89.7B5.4B$79.2A9.2B.4B5.4B$
79.A.A6.4B2.4B5.4B$81.A2.A3.2A5.4B5.4B12.A$72.A3.2B2.2A.A.A3.A6.4B5.
4B9.3A$71.A.A.7B.A.4A8.4B5.4B7.A$72.A.6B3.A14.4B5.4B5.B2A$15.4B15.2A
26.2A10.6B2.2A.2A12.4B5.4B2.5B$6.A7.6B14.A12.A15.A10.6B4.A.A13.4B5.8B
$6.3A5.6B11.BA.A10.3A15.A.AB7.6B4.A16.4B5.8B$9.A3.8B7.2B.B2A10.A19.2A
B.3B3.6B.BA.A17.4B5.8B$8.2A2.9B7.4B12.2A20.14B.B2A19.4B2.10B$8.3B.10B
4.6B3.2A8.B20.16B22.14B$10.12B2.8B3.A.A7.3B19.14B24.14B$9.23B4.AB6.6B
16.16B24.15B$9.23B3.2B3.B2.10B11.19B24.15B$10.24B.19B3.2B2.24B23.15B$
11.32BD3B2A15BD22B21.14B$10.33B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.15B21.13B$9.22B2D11B2D
18B3D4B2.14B19.17B$7.25B2D10BD21BD4B2.14B17.20B$6.26BD10BD26B2.15B16.
22B.B$5.35B5.13B.4B9.15B15.24B2A$124B.B2A$124B2.B$124B$124B$125B.B$7.
32B2.4B8.4B12.31BD26BA$8.30B4.4B6.4B13.31BDBD21B.BA.A$11.2B4.21B5.4B
4.4B14.20B2A9B3D20B3.BA$10.BA2B2.12B.4B.3B7.4B2.4B14.21B2A11BD19B$10.
A.A3.12B2.2B2.B.AB7.8B14.49B$11.A4.11B8.A.A8.6B15.22B2.3B.4B3.14B$16.
B3C4B.4B7.A10.4B15.10B.6B3.2B6.4B5.4B2.7B$16.2BC4B4.2A17.6B15.2A3B.2B
4.3B11.4B5.4B2.9B$16.2B3C2B4.A18.6B15.2A2B6.5B10.4B5.4B4.7B$16.6B6.3A
13.2AB4.B2A22.2A3B10.4B5.4B5.7B$15.7B8.A12.A.AB4.BA.A21.A.AB10.4B5.4B
5.7B$14.4B.B23.A10.A22.2A10.4B5.4B3.2A.8B$13.4B25.2A10.2A32.4B5.4B4.A
.8B$12.4B71.4B5.4B6.A3B.3B$11.4B71.4B5.4B4.3A3.B$10.4B71.4B5.4B5.A2.
3A$9.4B63.2A6.4B5.4B7.A2.A$8.4B63.B2AB4.4B5.4B6.A.2A3.A$7.4B65.3B3.4B
5.4B5.3A5.2A$6.4B65.B.B3.4B5.4B5.A4.2A$5.4B65.10B5.4B7.3A.A$4.4B64.
11B5.4B10.A.A$3.4B63.12B5.4B12.A$69.12B5.4B$68.12B5.4B$50.A13.B2.14B
3.4B$49.A.A12.18B.4B$49.A.A12.22B$48.2A.2A10.6B2A14B$48.A2.B9.8B2A16B
$49.AB2AB6.27B$47.A.A.2A32B.B2A$47.2A2.31B4.BA.A$53.29B7.A$51.29B9.2A
$51.28B$51.4B2A22B$49.2AB.2B2A21B$48.A.AB.5B.15B.B.B2A$48.A5.3B2.16B
2.BA.A$47.2A6.3B.12B.2B6.A$54.B2AB.11B10.2A$55.2A3.9B$61.3B.B$60.2B$
59.2BAB$60.A.A$61.A!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » October 18th, 2020, 7:11 am

calcyman wrote:
October 18th, 2020, 3:04 am
Boojums suffice. Here's a demonstration that it's possible to get an H into that location...
Argh, what is it about LWSSes that they always show up traveling in the maximally inconvenient direction, from the point of view of repeat time? The previous known X-to-L conduit is almost as awkward as this one:

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x = 65, y = 103, rule = LifeHistory
6.4D3.3D4.D4.3D2.5D.5D2.3D2.5D.D$6.D3.D.D3.D2.2D3.D3.D3.D3.D5.D5.D5.D
$6.D3.D.D7.D7.D3.D3.D5.D5.D5.D$6.4D3.3D4.D6.D4.D4.3D2.4D3.3D2.D$6.D9.
D3.D5.D5.D7.D.D3.D5.D.D$6.D5.D3.D3.D4.D6.D3.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D.D$6.D6.3D
3.3D2.5D3.D4.3D3.3D3.3D2.5D10$51.2A$52.A$36.A15.A.AB$30.A5.3A14.2AB$
30.3A6.A7.2A6.3B$33.A4.2A6.B2AB5.4B$32.2A4.B8.3B3.7B.3B$32.8B6.B.B3.
12B$34.6B5.18B2A$31.12B.19B2A$27.B2.32B.B$26.35B$25.2A34B$25.2AB.8B2A
9B.10B$26.B3.7BABAB2.5B3.8B$32.6BAB3.5B4.7B$31.7B5.5B.11B$30.7B6.17B$
29.4B.5B4.17B$28.4B5.2A4.16B$27.4B6.A5.6B3D4B.4B$26.4B8.3A2.7BD4B4.2A
$25.4B11.A2.7B3D2B4.A$24.4B15.11B6.3A$23.4B16.11B8.A$22.4B17.11B$21.
4B18.10B$20.4B19.10B$19.4B20.11B$18.4B20.12B$17.4B4.2A14.12B2.B$16.4B
6.A11.15B.B2A$3.2A10.4B7.A.AB3.B.20B2A$4.A9.4B9.2AB.11B.10B.2B$2.A10.
4B12.24B$2.5A5.4B5.2A6.22B$7.A4.4B5.A7.23B$4.3AB2.7B.BA.A8.22B$3.A.2B
3.7B.B2A9.21B$3.4A12B13.12B3D5B$.2A2.BA3B2A7B12.13BDBD5B$A2.3AB.2B2A
7B12.13BD2BD3B$2A.A.B3.10B10.2AB2.12B2D3B$3.A8.8B8.A.AB5.15B$3.2A7.9B
7.A9.13B$13.3B2.4B5.2A7.2AB.10B$11.5B3.4B12.A.AB3.7B$11.2A7.4B11.A6.
10B$12.A8.4B9.2A6.11B3.B$9.3A10.4B13.14B2.3B$9.A13.4B11.20B$24.4B8.
23B.B$25.4B6.25B2A$26.4B5.25B2A$27.4B3.27B$28.4B.28B$29.27B2.B$29.31B
$29.32B$27.34B$27.34B$27.32B.B2A$27.30B3.BA.A$28.28B7.A$28.4B3C18B10.
2A$30.4BC17B$30.2B3C14B$31.18B$30.18B$29.19B$30.18B$31.17B$31.7B.9B$
31.2A7.8B$32.A6.2A2.5B$29.3A7.A3.5B$29.A10.A2.5B$39.2A2.5B$43.5B$43.
5B$43.5B$43.5B$43.2BDBD$43.BD3B$43.BD3B$43.BD2BD$43.B3D!
Not too surprisingly, the first stable X-to-Ls also tended to be composite monstrosities. I seem to remember one by Dieter Leithner, but can't lay hands on it at the moment. Here's an early one assembled by Paul Callahan, 17 May 1997:

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x = 158, y = 208, rule = B3/S23
85bo$85b3o$88bo$87b2o2$67b2o$60b2o5b2o$60b2o3$62b2o17b2o17bo$62b2o17bo
18b3o$56b2o21bobo18bobo$56b2o21b2o21bo6$87b2o$87b2o11b2o$100bo$101b3o$
103bo2$53bo$53b3o46b2o$56bo45b2o$55b2o50bo$105b3o$104bo$104b2o$82b2o$
82b2o2$50b2o$51bo$51bobo$52b2o$94b2o$94b2o$66b2o40b2o$66bobo39b2o$68bo
43b2o$68b2o42b2o3$48bob2o$48b2obo2$57b2o$57b2o7$88b2o$88bobo$89bo5$47b
o$17b2o28b3o$10b2o5b2o31bo33bob2o$10b2o37b2o33b2obo$44bo$32b2o10b3o46b
2o$12b2o18bo14bo45b2o$12b2o16bobo13b2o28bo$6b2o22b2o44b3o$6b2o71bo$78b
2o2$104bo$43b2o57b3o$43b2o17b2o37bo$62b2o37b2o3$63b2o$63bo$50b2o12b3o$
51bo14bo$3b2o43b3o$4bo43bo66b2o7b2o$4bobo108b2o7bobo$5b2o115bobob3o$
122b2o5bo23b2o$128b2o23bo$151bobo$147b2o2b2o$147b2o$81b2o$81b2o2$37b2o
8b2o$37b2o8bobo$49bo36b2o$6b2o41b2o35b2o$6b2o74b2o$82b2o2$153b2o$88b2o
45b2o16bobo$88b2o44bobo18bo$20b2o112bo20b2o$19bo2bo110b2o4b2o$20bobo
115bobo$21bo91b2o23bo$114bo22b2o7b2o$111b3o32b2o$111bo3$2b2o35b2o64b2o
$3bo3b2o30b2o64bo$3o4b2o97bo50bo$o20b2o69bo12b2o48b3o$22bo69b3o12b2o
45bo$19b3o17b2o54bo7b4o2bo44b2o$19bo19b2o53b2o6bo4bobo$102b2o2b2ob3o$
112bo$41bo64b2ob4o2bo$40bobo63b2obo3b3o20bo$41bo70bo23b3o$12b2o28b3o
67b2o25bo$13bo30bo25b2o66b2o$13bobo15b2o38bo61bo$14b2o15b2o38bobo59b3o
$72b2o2b2o58bo$76b2o57b2o6$132b2o$132b2o17b2o$151b2o2$32b2o$32bobo35b
2o28b2o50b2o$34bo34bobo16b2o9bobo4b2o44bo$34b2o33bo18bobo8bo6bo32b2o
12b3o$68b2o20bo7b2o7b3o13b2o15bo14bo$84b2o4b2o17bo13bobo11b3o$84bobo
38bo11bo$86bo38b2o$77b2o7b2o$16b2o59b2o$17bo$14b3o$14bo6$24b2o$24b2o$
85bo$31bob2o48b3o$31b2obo47bo$15b2o65b2o$16bo$16bobo$17b2o2$33bo$31b3o
$30bo11bo18bo$15bo14b2o8b3o7b2o7b3o$14bobo22bo11bo6bo$15bo23b2o10bobo
4b2o$52b2o35b2o$89b2o4$84b2o$19b2o63b2o$18bobo67b2o$18bo69b2o$17b2o7b
2o$27bo$24b3o55b2o$24bo57b2o4$64b2o$64bo$58b2obo3b3o$58b2ob4o2bo$64bo$
54b2o2b2ob3o$46b2o6bo4bobo$47bo7b4o2bo$44b3o12b2o$44bo12b2o$58bo$57bo$
57b2o!
The hunt for a nice small direct H-to-LWSS continues, I guess.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by wwei23 » October 18th, 2020, 12:06 pm

Tanner's P46 also can support this conduit:

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x = 38, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
26.A$26.3A$29.A$28.2A3$9.2A$10.A$9.A9.A$9.2A8.3A$22.A10.D$2.2A17.2A9.
3D$3.A30.D$2.A$2.2A2$2.2A4.A9.2A$2.A.A.2A.2A6.A2.A$3.A2.2A.2A5.6A$3A
14.A2.A$A17.2A4$23.2A$23.2A5.C$29.3C4.2A$10.2A19.C4.2A$6.2A2.2A$5.A.A
$5.A$4.2A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » October 18th, 2020, 12:30 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 18th, 2020, 12:06 pm
Tanner's P46 also can support this conduit...
I don't know if this is going to work or not, but I've created a separate thread for periodic Herschel conduits, where this kind of thing could go.

This current thread is already up to 43 pages, and tends to get cluttered up with speculative sort-of-conduits that half the time don't actually connect to anything known, or take up a lot of space, or recover so slowly that they aren't really useful. It would be nice to do exploratory work elsewhere, if possible, and keep this thread more for actual workable discoveries.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » October 18th, 2020, 1:01 pm

dvgrn wrote:
October 18th, 2020, 7:11 am
Argh, what is it about LWSSes that they always show up traveling in the maximally inconvenient direction, from the point of view of repeat time?
wwei23 wrote:
October 18th, 2020, 12:06 pm
Tanner's P46 also can support this conduit
That gives me an idea: If we can figure out how to synchronize three ∏-heptominoes, or optimally, find a catalyst that can replace at least one ∏-heptomino, then that would give us an LWSS going away from where the ∏-heptominoes come from.
My other idea is to find a way to stabilize a B-heptomino that has already been created into an LWSS, which could also be useful for an LWSS quasi-Heisenburp.



Edit: Actually, if we can't replace at least one ∏-heptomino, we may as well try to synchronize three gliders instead of three ∏-heptominoes.



Another edit: Actually, the conduit already given would have a lower repeat time if we simply had a way to make a Herschel from an alternative direction.

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x = 82, y = 110, rule = LifeHistory
32.2A.A$32.A.2A2$33.5A$28.2A2.A4.A$28.A2.A2.A$29.A.A.2A$28.2A.A5.A$31.A4.A.A$31.2A2.A2.A$36.2A9$44.2A$44.2A8$34.2A22.2A$35.A21.A2.A$32.3A23.2A$32.A6$41.2A30.A$42.A28.3A$39.3A28.A$39.A30.2A16$79.2A$79.2A$58.A$59.A$59.A$61.A$53.D2.2A22.A$53.D.CA3.A.A16.A.A$53.3DA.2A20.A$55.D.A2.A.A$61.A$60.A$58.A$56.3A2.2A$58.2A3.A3$58.2A$58.A$59.A$56.3A$56.A2.3A$29.2A26.A2.A$29.2A24.A.2A3.A$53.3A5.2A$52.A4.2A$53.3A.A$55.A.A$56.A3$3.A$2.A.A$2.A.A$.2A.2A16.2A$.A20.2A$2.A.2A$A.A.2A34.2A$2A38.A.A$42.A$42.2A2$8.2A$2.2A4.2A$.A.A27.2A$.A29.A.A$2A31.A$8.2A23.2A$8.2A3$14.A$13.A.A$14.A!
Obviously, the eight-tick predecessor that I found would be extremely unlikely to actually occur, but even the six-tick predecessor looks mostly decent, and some variations of that six-cell predecessor that also work, such as 5bo$2bo$b4o$o$b2o$2b2o$4bo2bo$5bobo, look very plausible. Even the seven-tick predecessor bears a strong resemblance to generation thirteen of the B-heptomino, so it's possible that this can be made in a similar way, although getting around the tub could be tricky.
Marine has a non-centered Moore neighborhood and at least one gun with a very high period (11,843).
I'm in the process of reducing the glider cost of universal construction.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Jormungant » October 20th, 2020, 7:05 am

Nothing new here, but I noticed from a p41 wick stabilization that a h-to-g with a transparent lane is used there, but in the collection an alternative eater is used, which has no impact on the repeat time, and increases the bounding box needlessly. It seems it would be proper to replace it by the following:

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x = 168, y = 78, rule = LifeHistory
10$84.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D2.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$4.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D
2.5D3.D4.3D3.3D28.D3.D.2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D3.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D$4.D3.D.
2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D3.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D27.D3.D.D.D.D.D3.D5.D.D2.2D3.D
5.D7.D.D3.D$4.D3.D.D.D.D.D3.D5.D.D2.2D3.D5.D7.D.D3.D27.5D.D2.2D.D.D.D
3.2D2.D.D.D3.D5.D5.2D3.3D$4.5D.D2.2D.D.D.D3.2D2.D.D.D3.D5.D5.2D3.3D
28.D3.D.D3.D.D.D.D5.D.2D2.D3.D5.D7.D.D3.D$4.D3.D.D3.D.D.D.D5.D.2D2.D
3.D5.D7.D.D3.D27.D3.D.D3.D.2D.2D.D3.D.D3.D3.D5.D3.D3.D.D3.D$4.D3.D.D
3.D.2D.2D.D3.D.D3.D3.D5.D3.D3.D.D3.D27.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D
3.3D3.3D$4.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D3.3D3.3D9$106.2B$26.2B78.3B$
26.3B77.4B$26.4B77.4B$27.4B77.4B10.A$28.4B10.A66.4B7.3A$29.4B7.3A67.
4B5.A$30.4B5.A71.4B4.2A$31.4B4.2A71.9B$32.9B70.8B$31.8B66.2A3.11B$25.
2A3.11B65.A4.11B$26.A4.11B64.A.AB.11B$26.A.AB.11B65.2AB.12B$27.2AB.
12B29.D36.14B$29.14B29.2D25.2A8.15B$19.2A8.15B22.9D25.A8.15B$20.A8.
15B22.10D24.A.AB6.14B$20.A.AB6.14B22.9D26.2AB.3B3.14B$21.2AB.3B3.14B
27.2D29.21B$23.22B27.D30.21B$23.21B60.20B$24.20B2A57.21B$23.21BA.A54.
17B4.2A$21.20B5.A52.19B4.A$19.19B.B6.2A51.2BC15B6.3A$19.2BC15B61.3BCB
C4B.7B9.A$18.3BCBC4B.7B63.2B3C4B2.6B$19.2B3C4B2.6B62.5BC4B3.6B$18.5BC
4B3.6B60.10B6.4B$17.10B6.4B59.4B12.B2A2B$16.4B12.B2A2B59.3B14.2A.B2A$
16.3B14.2A.B2A55.4B18.BA.A$14.4B18.BA.A54.2A23.A$14.2A23.A55.A23.2A$
15.A23.2A51.3A$12.3A77.A$12.A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by wwei23 » October 20th, 2020, 8:40 am

Jormungant wrote:
October 20th, 2020, 7:05 am
p41 wick stabilization
At long last? It's been stabilized?

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by calcyman » October 20th, 2020, 10:53 am

wwei23 wrote:
October 20th, 2020, 8:40 am
Jormungant wrote:
October 20th, 2020, 7:05 am
p41 wick stabilization
At long last? It's been stabilized?
My guess is that it's pseudo-period, because p41 is faster than the recovery time of these Herschel conduits.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Jormungant » October 20th, 2020, 11:32 am

indeed, I did not mean to confuse anyone, but I guess the mention that this h-to-g has a transparent lane should imply that it was used for that purpose, hence it is indeed to merge 2 p82 streams. there is the pattern I dug out of the forums:

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x = 541, y = 185, rule = LifeHistory
73.2A51.2A11.A261.A11.2A51.2A$17.2A11.A42.A.A49.B2AB9.A.A259.A.A9.B2A
B49.A.A42.A11.2A$16.B2AB9.A.A42.AB50.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A243.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B
50.BA42.A.A9.B2AB$17.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A33.2B6.B43.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A6.2A
225.2A6.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B43.B6.2B33.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$16.B.B9.2A.2A2.A
2.A.A30.5B4.3B42.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A4.2B2AB223.B2A2B4.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B42.
3B4.5B30.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$16.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A12.2A14.8B2.4B42.4BAB6.
2ABA2.4A.A5.4B225.4B5.A.4A2.AB2A6.BA4B42.4B2.8B14.2A12.A.A3.A.A2.B8.
5B$16.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A13.A15.15B41.3B3A2B4.2A.A.A3.A7.6B221.6B7.A3.A.A.
2A4.2B3A3B41.15B15.A13.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$16.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.BA.A15.15B
42.BA2BA8B2.A.AB2.A7.5B221.5B7.A2.BA.A2.8BA2BAB42.15B15.A.AB12.A3.A.A
.2A4.8B$17.13B2.A.AB2.A9.B.B2A18.15B38.2B5ABA4B5.A.A2B.A6.6B219.6B6.A
.2BA.A5.4BAB5A2B38.15B18.2AB.B9.A2.BA.A2.13B$15.13B5.A.A2B.A7.4B19.3B
3A9B2A36.4B4AB2A4B5.A2B.2A6.7B217.7B6.2A.2BA5.4B2AB4A4B36.2A9B3A3B19.
4B7.A.2BA.A5.13B$14.15B5.A2B.2A7.BA2B18.4BABA9B2A36.15B4.3B10.6B219.
6B10.3B4.15B36.2A9BABA4B18.2BAB7.2A.2BA5.15B$14.8BA6B4.3B10.B2A2B8.2A
8.3BA2BA10B36.9BA7B.B.2B10.7B219.7B10.2B.B.7BA9B36.10BA2BA3B8.2A8.2B
2AB10.3B4.6BA8B$13.9BABA5B.B.2B11.2A2BAB8.A9.2B2ABA3B.6B36.2B2A25B4.
6B219.6B4.25B2A2B36.6B.3BAB2A2B9.A8.BA2B2A11.2B.B.5BABA9B$13.9BA4BA
14B2.2BA4BA8.A.AB4.6B2ABAB.3B38.2B3AB3A22B2.7B219.7B2.22B3AB3A2B38.3B
.BAB2A6B4.BA.A8.A4BA2B2.14BA4BA9B$12.12B3A18B3A2BABA8.2AB.12BAB41.4B
2A26B2.7B219.7B2.26B2A4B41.BA12B.B2A8.ABA2B3A18B3A12B$11.15BA17B2AB2A
3B11.11BA3B2A39.2AB3.20B3A4B.9B217.9B.4B3A20B3.B2A39.2A3BA11B11.3B2AB
2A17BA15B$10.2AB3.27B.3BA3B12.10BA4BAB38.A2.A4.19BA4BA11B217.11BA4BA
19B4.A2.A38.BA4BA10B12.3BA3B.27B3.B2A$9.A2.A4.29B3A3B12.9BA3B2A2B36.A
.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.4BA3B2A10B4.B207.B4.10B2A3BA4B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A36.2B
2A3BA9B12.3B3A29B4.A2.A$8.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B11.11BA5B.B35.A7.6B14.
6B2A11B.B2A205.2AB.11B2A6B14.6B7.A35.B.5BA11B11.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$
8.A7.6B14.17B8.12BA8BA33.2A6.9B14.BA2BA14B2A205.2A14BA2BAB14.9B6.2A
33.A8BA12B8.17B14.6B7.A$7.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.13BA2BA3B2.BA.A39.4B4.2A
15.B2A14B.B207.B.14B2AB15.2A4.4B39.A.AB2.3BA2BA13B2.2B.15B14.9B6.2A$
14.2A2B4.2A15.11B2A19BA5B4.BA39.4B5.A15.17B213.17B15.A5.4B39.AB4.5BA
19B2A11B15.2A4.2B2A$13.ABAB5.A16.8B.2A2BA15B.5B2A2B43.4B7.3A12.17B
213.17B12.3A7.4B43.2B2A5B.15BA2B2A.8B16.A5.BABA$12.3BA7.3A11.8B3.2AB
2A15B.3BAB2AB43.4B10.A10.2AB.15B213.15B.B2A10.A10.4B43.B2ABA3B.15B2AB
2A3.8B11.3A7.A3B$11.4B10.A11.2A3.B5.B3A16B.2B2AB2AB42.4B21.A.AB4.12B
213.12B4.BA.A21.4B42.B2AB2A2B.16B3AB5.B3.2A11.A10.4B$10.4B24.A10.18B.
3B3A3B41.4B22.A9.11B211.11B9.A22.4B41.3B3A3B.18B10.A24.4B$9.4B22.3A
12.B.3B.4B6.10B.2B38.4B22.2A8.13B209.13B8.2A22.4B38.2B.10B6.4B.3B.B
12.3A22.4B$8.4B23.A19.4B5.10BA3B2A36.4B33.12B211.12B33.4B36.2A3BA10B
5.4B19.A23.4B$8.4B42.4B5.11B2A2B2A35.3AB35.10B213.10B35.B3A35.2A2B2A
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » October 20th, 2020, 11:41 am

Jormungant wrote:
October 20th, 2020, 11:32 am
indeed, I did not mean to confuse anyone, but I guess the mention that this h-to-g has a transparent lane should imply that it was used for that purpose, hence it is indeed to merge 2 p82 streams. there is the pattern I dug out of the forums:

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x = 541, y = 185, rule = LifeHistory
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.A28.4B.6B2A12B12.24B3A8B4.A2.A223.A2.A4.8B3A24B12.12B2A6B.4B28.A.2A
5.6B3.B2.2B2.2B3AB3A11B4.B$2AB.19B14.6B7.A27.4B2.7B3ABA9B11.3BA15B2.
2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A221.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.15BA3B11.9BAB3A7B2.4B27.A7.6B14.
19B.B2A$2A19B14.9B6.2A25.4B3.2A4.2B3A12B8.4BA12B14.4B2A7.A221.A7.2A4B
14.12BA4B8.12B3A2B4.2A3.4B25.2A6.9B14.19B2A$.B.17B15.2A4.4B31.2A2B5.A
4.3BA16B2.2B.15B14.5B2A2B6.2A219.2A6.2B2A5B14.15B.2B2.16BA3B4.A5.2B2A
31.4B4.2A15.17B.B$4.17B15.A5.4B29.ABAB3.3A6.21B2A15B15.2A4.BA2B233.2B
AB4.2A15.15B2A21B6.3A3.BABA29.4B5.A15.17B$4.3B2A12B12.3A7.4B27.3BA4.A
9.7B.11BA2BA5B.8B16.A5.4B231.4B5.A16.8B.5BA2BA11B.7B9.A4.A3B27.4B7.3A
12.12B2A3B$4.2B3A10B.B2A10.A10.4B25.4B15.6B2.11BA2BA5B3.8B11.3A7.4B
229.4B7.3A11.8B3.5BA2BA11B2.6B15.4B25.4B10.A10.2AB.10B3A2B$4.A11B4.BA
.A21.4B23.4B15.6B3.11B2AB2A4B5.B3.2A11.A10.4B227.4B10.A11.2A3.B5.4B2A
B2A11B3.6B15.4B23.4B21.A.AB4.11BA$3.ABA8B9.A22.4B21.4B16.4B6.12B2A4B
10.A24.4B225.4B24.A10.4B2A12B6.4B16.4B21.4B22.A9.8BABA$2.A2BA9B8.2A
22.4B19.4B17.2B2AB12.4B.3B.B12.3A22.4B223.4B22.3A12.B.3B.4B12.B2A2B
17.4B19.4B22.2A8.9BA2BA$3.2A10B33.4B15.8B14.2AB.2A14.4B19.A23.4B221.
4B23.A19.4B14.2A.B2A14.8B15.4B33.10B2A$4.10B35.4B13.10B12.A.AB18.4B
42.4B221.4B42.4B18.BA.A12.10B13.4B35.10B$4.4BA4B37.4B12.11B11.A22.4B
41.5B219.5B41.4B22.A11.11B12.4B37.4BA4B$4.3BA2BA2B38.2B2A11.7BA2B11.
2A23.4B39.9B213.9B39.4B23.2A11.2BA7B11.2A2B38.2BA2BA3B$4.4BABA2B39.2A
2B7.9B3AB37.3BA38.9B213.9B38.A3B37.B3A9B7.2B2A39.2BABA4B$7.2BA2B41.BA
2B5.10BA2BA3B35.3BA37.9B213.9B37.A3B35.3BA2BA10B5.2BAB41.2BA2B$8.4B
42.4B5.11B2A2B2A35.3AB35.10B213.10B35.B3A35.2A2B2A11B5.4B42.4B$8.4B
23.A19.4B5.10BA3B2A36.4B33.12B211.12B33.4B36.2A3BA10B5.4B19.A23.4B$9.
4B22.3A12.B.3B.4B6.10B.2B38.4B22.2A8.13B209.13B8.2A22.4B38.2B.10B6.4B
.3B.B12.3A22.4B$10.4B24.A10.18B.3B3A3B41.4B22.A9.11B211.11B9.A22.4B
41.3B3A3B.18B10.A24.4B$11.4B10.A11.2A3.B5.B3A16B.2B2AB2AB42.4B21.A.AB
4.12B213.12B4.BA.A21.4B42.B2AB2A2B.16B3AB5.B3.2A11.A10.4B$12.3BA7.3A
11.8B3.2AB2A15B.3BAB2AB43.4B10.A10.2AB.15B213.15B.B2A10.A10.4B43.B2AB
A3B.15B2AB2A3.8B11.3A7.A3B$13.ABAB5.A16.8B.2A2BA15B.5B2A2B43.4B7.3A
12.17B213.17B12.3A7.4B43.2B2A5B.15BA2B2A.8B16.A5.BABA$14.2A2B4.2A15.
11B2A19BA5B4.BA39.4B5.A15.17B213.17B15.A5.4B39.AB4.5BA19B2A11B15.2A4.
2B2A$7.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.13BA2BA3B2.BA.A39.4B4.2A15.B2A14B.B207.B.14B
2AB15.2A4.4B39.A.AB2.3BA2BA13B2.2B.15B14.9B6.2A$8.A7.6B14.17B8.12BA8B
A33.2A6.9B14.BA2BA14B2A205.2A14BA2BAB14.9B6.2A33.A8BA12B8.17B14.6B7.A
$8.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B11.11BA5B.B35.A7.6B14.6B2A11B.B2A205.2AB.11B2A
6B14.6B7.A35.B.5BA11B11.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$9.A2.A4.29B3A3B12.9BA3B
2A2B36.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.4BA3B2A10B4.B207.B4.10B2A3BA4B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A
.A36.2B2A3BA9B12.3B3A29B4.A2.A$10.2AB3.27B.3BA3B12.10BA4BAB38.A2.A4.
19BA4BA11B217.11BA4BA19B4.A2.A38.BA4BA10B12.3BA3B.27B3.B2A$11.15BA17B
2AB2A3B11.11BA3B2A39.2AB3.20B3A4B.9B217.9B.4B3A20B3.B2A39.2A3BA11B11.
3B2AB2A17BA15B$12.12B3A18B3A2BABA8.2AB.12BAB41.4B2A26B2.7B219.7B2.26B
2A4B41.BA12B.B2A8.ABA2B3A18B3A12B$13.9BA4BA14B2.2BA4BA8.A.AB4.6B2ABAB
.3B38.2B3AB3A22B2.7B219.7B2.22B3AB3A2B38.3B.BAB2A6B4.BA.A8.A4BA2B2.
14BA4BA9B$13.9BABA5B.B.2B11.2A2BAB8.A9.2B2ABA3B.6B36.2B2A25B4.6B219.
6B4.25B2A2B36.6B.3BAB2A2B9.A8.BA2B2A11.2B.B.5BABA9B$14.8BA6B4.3B10.B
2A2B8.2A8.3BA2BA10B36.9BA7B.B.2B10.7B219.7B10.2B.B.7BA9B36.10BA2BA3B
8.2A8.2B2AB10.3B4.6BA8B$14.15B5.A2B.2A7.BA2B18.4BABA9B2A36.15B4.3B10.
6B219.6B10.3B4.15B36.2A9BABA4B18.2BAB7.2A.2BA5.15B$15.13B5.A.A2B.A7.
4B19.3B3A9B2A36.4B4AB2A4B5.A2B.2A6.7B217.7B6.2A.2BA5.4B2AB4A4B36.2A9B
3A3B19.4B7.A.2BA.A5.13B$17.13B2.A.AB2.A9.B.B2A18.15B38.2B5ABA4B5.A.A
2B.A6.6B219.6B6.A.2BA.A5.4BAB5A2B38.15B18.2AB.B9.A2.BA.A2.13B$16.8B4.
2A.A.A3.A12.BA.A15.15B42.BA2BA8B2.A.AB2.A7.5B221.5B7.A2.BA.A2.8BA2BAB
42.15B15.A.AB12.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$16.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A13.A15.15B41.3B3A2B4.
2A.A.A3.A7.6B221.6B7.A3.A.A.2A4.2B3A3B41.15B15.A13.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$16.
5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A12.2A14.8B2.4B42.4BAB6.2ABA2.4A.A5.4B225.4B5.A.4A2.AB
2A6.BA4B42.4B2.8B14.2A12.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$16.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A30.5B4.
3B42.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A4.2B2AB223.B2A2B4.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B42.3B4.5B30.A.A
2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$17.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A33.2B6.B43.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A6.2A
225.2A6.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B43.B6.2B33.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$16.B2AB9.A.A42.AB
50.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A243.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B50.BA42.A.A9.B2AB$17.2A11.A42.A.A
49.B2AB9.A.A259.A.A9.B2AB49.A.A42.A11.2A$73.2A51.2A11.A261.A11.2A51.
2A!
Yes; the identify function confirms that it's p82.
Also, I initially thought that you were referring to this (because it was recent and in the forums) then got very confused.



Edit: I see that you have also added that to your forum post.
Marine has a non-centered Moore neighborhood and at least one gun with a very high period (11,843).
I'm in the process of reducing the glider cost of universal construction.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Extrementhusiast » Yesterday, 8:11 pm

A catalyst usage guide I had made for myself at one point:

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x = 570, y = 358, rule = LifeHistory
211.A22.A$210.A2.2A18.A2.2A$210.A22.A$211.A.A20.A.A$212.A22.A2$211.2C
21.2C2.C$211.2C20.C.4C$231.3C$230.C3.3C$231.3C2.C$233.C28$41.2C$41.C.
C$43.C$4.2A18.2A17.2C3.2A$.C2.A15.2C2.A20.C2.A$C.C.A.A13.C.C.A.A16.2C
.C.A.A$.C3.2A14.C3.2A15.C2.C3.2A$42.2C2$20.2C$21.C$18.3C$18.C32$175.
2A20.2A$177.A21.A$128.2C47.A21.A$59.A67.C2.C46.A21.A$57.A42.A21.A5.C.
C46.A21.A$53.2C2.A43.A.2C18.A.4C.2C47.2C20.2C$53.C3.A40.A.A2.2C15.A.A
2.C3.C49.C.C19.C2.C$50.C3.C44.A21.A5.C.C51.C20.2C.C$50.4C72.2C.2C50.
2C22.C$54.3C148.2C$52.C2.C$52.2C3.C$56.2C8$59.A$51.2C4.A$51.C5.A$52.
3C2.A$54.C248.A161.2C$52.2C248.A.A160.2C$52.C249.A.2A$50.C.C$50.2C
412.2C$301.A3.A157.C2.C$302.3A159.C.C$380.2C56.C4.A18.C.C.C.C4.A$302.
C78.C55.C.C.2A.2A15.C.C.C.C.C.2A.2A$297.2C2.C.C65.C11.C.C3.2C49.C2.2A
.2A16.C2.C2.C2.2A.2A$296.C.C3.2C64.C.C11.2C2.C.C52.2A.2A17.2C.2C3.2A.
2A$296.C72.C17.C55.A20.C.C6.A$295.2C167.C.C$367.3A15.3A77.C2$368.A17.
A$192.A16.A$193.A16.A$193.A16.A$191.3A14.3A3.2C$195.2C15.C2.C$195.C.C
14.3C$197.C$197.2C13.2C.C.2C$213.C.2C.C$213.C$212.2C38$282.A17.A$281.
A.A15.A.A$283.2A16.2A$284.A17.A$283.A2.2C13.A2.2C.C$286.C.C15.2C.3C$
288.C21.C$288.2C14.2C.3C$305.C.C$305.C.C$306.C$144.2A14.2A$145.2A.2C
11.2A.2C$145.A2.2C11.A2.2C$143.2A14.2A$143.A15.A$165.2C$165.C$166.3C$
168.C31$491.2C$491.C.C66.2C$493.C66.C.C$429.2C62.2C67.C$429.C.C59.2C
69.2C$431.C35.2C21.C2.2C65.2C$431.2C35.C22.C.C51.A13.C2.2C4.A$429.2C
37.C.C19.2C.C.C48.A15.C.C4.A$410.2C16.C2.2C36.2C2.2A19.2C2.2A40.2C.A
2.A12.2C.C.C.A2.A$411.C17.C.C40.A2.2A20.A2.2A38.2C2.A18.2C2.A$411.C.C
14.2C.C.C38.2A.2A20.2A.2A43.A22.A$412.2C18.2C39.3A22.3A$415.3A17.3A
36.2A23.2A$288.2C125.A2.A16.A2.A35.A24.A$287.C.C124.4A2.A13.4A2.A$
287.C126.A5.A13.A5.A$286.2C22.2C$285.C23.C.C$285.3C21.2C$281.3A4.C16.
3A5.2C$287.2C24.C.C$283.A23.A7.C$315.2C$129.2A17.2A$130.2A17.2A2$130.
C18.C.C$129.C.C15.3C.3C$130.2C14.C7.C$146.2C5.2C26$249.2C$249.C$251.C
$250.2C$245.2C2.C$245.C2.C.2C$247.2C.C.C$251.C2$248.3A$247.A3.A$246.A
5.A36$358.C$358.3C$361.C2.2C$356.4C.C3.C$338.C16.C2.C.C.3C$336.3C16.
2C3.C.C86.C$335.C24.C.C.3C82.3C$335.2C24.2C.C2.C84.C2.2C$366.2C79.4C.
C3.C$333.2A24.2A68.C16.C2.C.C.3C$335.A25.A65.3C16.2C3.C.C$335.A25.A
64.C24.C.C.3C$335.A25.A64.2C24.2C.C2.C$333.2A24.2A96.2C$422.4A22.4A$
422.A2.A22.A2.A7$358.C$358.3C$361.C2.2C$356.4C.C3.C$338.C16.C2.C.C.3C
$336.3C16.2C3.C.C$335.C24.C.C.3C$335.2C24.2C.C2.C$366.2C$333.2A24.2A$
335.A25.A$335.A25.A$334.A25.A!
Included are some ways for common catalysts to go wrong, and replacement catalysts that don't.
I Like My Heisenburps! (and others)

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