Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » May 6th, 2021, 12:57 pm

dvgrn wrote:
May 6th, 2021, 12:14 pm
If we follow the usual guidelines, the discoverer gets to name the discovery.
Makes sense, but what about the object being hassled?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by dvgrn » May 6th, 2021, 1:04 pm

wwei47 wrote:
May 6th, 2021, 12:57 pm
dvgrn wrote:
May 6th, 2021, 12:14 pm
If we follow the usual guidelines, the discoverer gets to name the discovery.
Makes sense, but what about the object being hassled?
Good point. I won't venture an opinion about that.

My approach would be "wait a year and see if anyone ever mentions it again after that, and then see what they call it".

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hkoenig » May 6th, 2021, 2:27 pm

dvgrn wrote:My approach would be "wait a year and see if anyone ever mentions it again after that, and then see what they call it".
I agree. I've been involved with the naming of new geographic features, and there's a tendency for people to want to quickly name "their" discovery before the object or feature in question shows that it deserves a name, or that a separate name is even needed. In some cases, an ad hoc designation ends up being useful enough that nothing more is needed. There are also cases where the name turned out to be just wrong as the feature changed over time. In other cases even the initial name wasn't good enough, and more detailed names became needed.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » May 7th, 2021, 7:28 am

Here's an interesting-looking P2 in Catagolue-the rotor uses 2x2 blocks!

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bobo$2b2o2bo2b2o$2bob2o4bo$4b3ob2o$bo6b2obo$obobo3bobobo$bob2o6bo$3b2ob
3o$2bo4b2obo$2b2o2bo2b2o$5bobo$6bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei47 » May 9th, 2021, 10:28 pm

Toad-supported P4

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x = 20, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
8b3o$9b3o$b2o14b2o$o2bobo8bobo2bo$b2o14b2o$3b2o10b2o$b2o2b10o2b2o$o2bo
12bo2bo$b2o14b2o$8b3o$9b3o!
EDIT: When will my posts stop teleporting in front of each other?
Last edited by wwei47 on June 16th, 2021, 8:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » May 9th, 2021, 10:31 pm

wwei47 wrote:
May 9th, 2021, 10:28 pm
Toad-supported P4

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x = 20, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
8b3o$9b3o$b2o14b2o$o2bobo8bobo2bo$b2o14b2o$3b2o10b2o$b2o2b10o2b2o$o2bo
12bo2bo$b2o14b2o$8b3o$9b3o!
Alternative stabilization:

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x = 20, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
8b2obo$8bob2o$b2o14b2o$o2bobo8bobo2bo$b2o14b2o$3b2o10b2o$b2o2b10o2b2o$
o2bo12bo2bo$b2o14b2o$8bob2o$8b2obo!

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by wwei47 » May 9th, 2021, 10:38 pm

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
May 9th, 2021, 10:31 pm
Alternative stabilization:
Another:

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x = 20, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$10bo$7bo$8b2o$b2o14b2o$o2bo2b8o2bo2bo$b2o2b10o2b2o$3b14o$b2o14b2o
$o2bo12bo2bo$b2o14b2o$10b2o$12bo$9bo$10b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Chris857 » May 9th, 2021, 11:35 pm

wwei47 wrote:
May 9th, 2021, 10:38 pm
Another:

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x = 20, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$10bo$7bo$8b2o$b2o14b2o$o2bo2b8o2bo2bo$b2o2b10o2b2o$3b14o$b2o14b2o
$o2bo12bo2bo$b2o14b2o$10b2o$12bo$9bo$10b2o!
And another (which is definitely infinitely extensible).

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x = 24, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
8b2ob2ob2o$8b2ob2ob2o$b2o18b2o$o2bo16bo2bo$b2o18b2o$3b18o$b2o2b14o2b2o
$o2bo2b12o2bo2bo$b2o18b2o$8b2ob2ob2o$8b2ob2ob2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by amling » May 11th, 2021, 1:22 pm

Is it still the case that there are no known strictly volatile p4 oscillators [1]?

I started poking around and have some long partials and components. Longest asymmetric partial from the widest search I've run so far:

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 .............  |  .............  |  .............  |  ............. 
 .............  |  .............  |  .............  |  ............. 
 .............  |  .............  |  ......*......  |  ......*...... 
 .....**......  |  .....***.....  |  .....*.*.....  |  ......*...... 
  .....*.**.... |   .....**...... |   ............. |   .....*.*.....
  ....*........ |   ....**.**.... |   ....*..**.... |   ......***....
  ....*...*.... |   .....*.*..... |   .....*.*..... |   ....**.**....
  ......**..... |   ...*.*.*..... |   .....*....... |   ....*.*......
 ...*.*.......  |  ....*.*......  |  ...**........  |  ...***....... 
 ...*...**....  |  ....*...*....  |  ....*..*.....  |  ...**..*..... 
 ......***....  |  ...**.*..*...  |  .......***...  |  ......***.... 
 ...**...*....  |  ...***..*....  |  ..*..*.......  |  ...***...*... 
 ...**........  |  ..*..........  |  ..*.***.*....  |  ....*.*...... 
...*.**......   | ...*...***...   | ..***..*.*...   | ..*..........  
...*.*.****..   | ...*...**.*..   | ....*.**.....   | ..*.*.*..*...  
....**...**..   | .....*.......   | ...*..*.**...   | ......*.***..  
.....*...*...   | .***.*...*...   | ......*..*.??   | ?????????????  
Or as first generation:

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x = 8, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$4bob2o$3bo$3bo3bo$5b2o$bobo$bo3b2o$4b3o$b2o3bo$b2o$ob2o$obob4o$b
2o3b2o$2bo3bo!
Longest even partial:

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......... | ......... | ......... | .........
......... | ......... | ......... | .........
......... | ......... | ......... | ..*......
.**.**... | ..**.*... | .***..... | .*...*...
***...*.. | *.*...*.. | .******.. | .*..**...
....**... | .....*... | ......... | .*..**...
*........ | ......... | ..*...... | .........
..*...... | .***..... | ..*...... | *........
..**..... | ......... | ****..... | ****.....
*.**..... | *...*.... | ......... | ..*......
.***..... | ....*.... | *........ | .........
.***..... | .*....... | ..*.*.... | .**.*....
....**... | ..***.... | ..***.... | ..*......
......... | ....*.... | ....**... | ***.**...
.....***. | .....*.*. | **....... | ***......
...*..**. | ***.....* | .**....** | .**...***
***...*.* | *..*....* | ...*.*.*. | ...*.*...
.**..**.* | ...****.. | ...****.* | *.......*
...*.*... | .......** | **.**..*. | **.*.????

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x = 18, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
3b2ob2o2b2ob2o$2bo3b6o3bo$3b2o8b2o$8b2o$6bo4bo$5b2o4b2o$5b2ob2ob2o$5b
3o2b3o$5b3o2b3o$3b2o8b2o2$b3o10b3o$b2o2bo6bo2b2o$obo3b6o3bobo$ob2o2b2o
2b2o2b2obo$3bobo6bobo!
Longest odd partial:

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......... | ......... | ......... | .........
......... | ......... | ......... | .........
......... | ......... | *........ | *........
*........ | **....... | .*....... | *........
**....... | .*....... | ......... | .**......
.*....... | .**...... | .**...... | .........
...*..... | ..*...... | ......... | .*.*.....
.*....... | ..**..... | ..**..... | ..**.....
..*.*.... | ...*..... | ..**..... | ..***....
....*.... | ....**... | .....*... | .........
...**.... | ...**.... | ......... | ....*....
......... | ...**.... | ...**.... | ...**....
...*...*. | ......... | ...**.... | ...***.*.
.......*. | ....*..** | ......*** | .....**.*
....**.*. | .....*.*. | ......*** | .....*...
......*.. | ......... | .....*.*. | .....*..*
....****. | .....***. | *.....*.. | .......*.
......... | **.*..... | ...****.. | ...**.*..
***.**... | ***.*.... | ....*.... | .........
..**..... | *.*..*... | *...*.... | ***.*....
....*.... | ..**..... | .***..... | **..*....
.*....... | ......... | ..**..... | .*.*.....
.*..*.... | .*..*.... | ......... | .*.......
..***.... | .*..*.... | .***..... | ..***....
..**..... | ..*...... | ...*.*... | ...*.....
....***.. | ....*.*.. | ...*.*... | .....*...
....*.*.. | ....*.... | ......**. | ....*.**.
......**. | ......**. | ....*.*.. | ....*....
.....*... | ....**... | ....***.. | ......*..
...*.*... | ....*.... | ...**.... | ...*..*..
..*...... | .**..*... | .*...*... | ..*.*....
.**.**... | .*****... | .*....... | ..*......
.....*... | ...*.**.. | ...*..*.. | ..***.*..
.**..*... | .....*... | ..*.***.. | .**...*..
......**. | .**.....* | .**.**... | .........
.*...**** | .*..**..* | .**.***** | ......**.
.***.*... | .....*.*. | ..*.*.... | *????????

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x = 17, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7b3o$7bobo$5bo5bo$7bobo$4bobo3bobo$4bo7bo$4b2o5b2o2$bo3bo5bo3bo$bo
13bo$bob2o7b2obo$2bo11bo$b4o7b4o2$3b2ob5ob2o$5b2o3b2o$4bo7bo$7bobo$4bo
2bobo2bo$4b3o3b3o$5b2o3b2o$2b3o7b3o$2bobo7bobo$b2o11b2o$3bo9bo$3bobo5b
obo$6bo3bo$3b2ob2ob2ob2o$3bo9bo$3bo2b2ob2o2bo$b2o11b2o$4o3bobo3b4o$3bo
b3ob3obo!
Two wicks:

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x = 130, y = 84, rule = B3/S23
6$43b2o$43b2o$42bo2bo$42bobo$41bo$41b3o3$38b3o$40bo$37bobo$36bo2bo29b
2o4bo$37b2o30b2o4bo$37b2o30bobob2ob2o$35b2o$35b2o33b2ob2obobo$34bo2bo
34bo4b2o$34bobo35bo4b2o$33bo41b2o4bo$33b3o39b2o4bo$75bobob2ob2o2$30b3o
43b2ob2obobo$32bo45bo4b2o$29bobo46bo4b2o$28bo2bo49b2o4bo$29b2o50b2o4bo
$29b2o50bobob2ob2o$27b2o$27b2o53b2ob2obobo$26bo2bo54bo4b2o$26bobo55bo
4b2o$25bo61b2o4bo$25b3o59b2o4bo$87bobob2ob2o2$22b3o63b2ob2obobo$24bo
65bo4b2o$21bobo66bo4b2o$20bo2bo69b2o4bo$21b2o70b2o4bo$21b2o70bobob2ob
2o$19b2o$19b2o73b2ob2obobo$18bo2bo74bo4b2o$18bobo75bo4b2o$17bo81b2o4bo
$17b3o79b2o4bo$99bobob2ob2o2$14b3o83b2ob2obobo$16bo85bo4b2o$13bobo86bo
4b2o$12bo2bo$13b2o$13b2o!
Which have a common slice and can be spliced together in various ways:

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x = 36, y = 112, rule = B3/S23
33b2o$33b2o$32bo2bo$32bobo$31bo$31b3o3$28b3o$30bo$27bobo$26bo2bo$27b2o
$27b2o$25b2o$25b2o$24bo2bo$24bobo$23bo$23b3o3$20b3o$22bo$19bobo$18bo2b
o$19b2o$19b2o$17b2o4bo$17b2o4bo$17bobob2ob2o2$18b2ob2obobo$20bo4b2o$
20bo4b2o$23b2o$23b2o$22bo2bo$22bobo$21bo$21b3o3$18b3o$20bo$17bobo$16bo
2bo$17b2o$17b2o$15b2o4bo$15b2o4bo$15bobob2ob2o2$16b2ob2obobo$18bo4b2o$
18bo4b2o$21b2o$21b2o$20bo2bo$20bobo$19bo$19b3o3$16b3o$18bo$15bobo$14bo
2bo$15b2o$15b2o$13b2o$13b2o$12bo2bo$12bobo$11bo$11b3o3$8b3o3b3o$10bo3b
obo$10b2ob2ob2o$11bobo3bo$11b3o3b3o3$14b3o$16bo$13bobo$12bo2bo$13b2o$
13b2o$11b2o$11b2o$10bo2bo$10bobo$9bo$9b3o3$6b3o$8bo$5bobo$4bo2bo$5b2o$
5b2o$3b2o$3b2o$2bo2bo$2bobo$bo$o2bo$b2o!
But unfortunately they keep the same "orientation" so I don't see a way to loop them around.

[1] https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWik ... latilities

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » May 11th, 2021, 7:36 pm

amling wrote:
May 11th, 2021, 1:22 pm
Is it still the case that there are no known strictly volatile p4 oscillators [1]?

[1] https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWik ... latilities
Yes, that's still the case, although a better source for which periods have known strictly-volatile oscillators is here.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » May 13th, 2021, 2:25 pm

Period 486

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x = 70, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
12b2o42b2o$12b2o42bobo$12b2o43b3o$12bo45b2o$11bobo42bobo$12bobob3o32b
2o2bobo$13bob4o32bobo2bo$14bo37b4o$53b2o12$4b2o58b2o$4b2o58b2o2$4b4o
54b4o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$3b2ob2obo50bob5o$b2o3bo2bo50bobo4b2o$o2b2o2bob2o
48b2o5bo2bo$2obobobo4bo26b2o18bo2bobobob2o$3bo2bo2b2obo25bo2bo17b3obo
2bo$3b2obobo3bo24b2ob2o17bo3bob2o$5bobob2o28bo19b2obobo$5bobobo50bobob
o$6bo2bo50bo2bo$7b2o52b2o2$7b2o52b2o$6bo2bo50bo2bo$5bobobo50bobobo$5bo
bob2o19bo28b2obobo$3b2obo3bo17b2ob2o24bo3bobob2o$3bo2bob3o17bo2bo25bob
2o2bo2bo$2obobobo2bo18b2o26bo4bobobob2o$o2bo5b2o48b2obo2b2o2bo$b2o4bob
o50bo2bo3b2o$3b5obo50bob2ob2o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$4b4o54b4o2$4b2o58b2o$4b2o
58b2o12$15b2o$14b4o37bo$13bo2bobo32b4obo$12bobo2b2o32b3obobo$11bobo42b
obo$10b2o45bo$10b3o43b2o$11bobo42b2o$12b2o42b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by iNoMed » May 13th, 2021, 2:38 pm

You don't need the unices, fishhooks will do just fine:

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x = 70, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
14bo40bo$14b3o36b3o$17bo34bo$16b2o34b2o11$4b2o58b2o$4b2o58b2o2$4b4o54b
4o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$3b2ob2obo50bob5o$b2o3bo2bo50bobo4b2o$o2b2o2bob2o48b2o
5bo2bo$2obobobo4bo26b2o18bo2bobobob2o$3bo2bo2b2obo25bo2bo17b3obo2bo$3b
2obobo3bo24b2ob2o17bo3bob2o$5bobob2o28bo19b2obobo$5bobobo50bobobo$6bo
2bo50bo2bo$7b2o52b2o2$7b2o52b2o$6bo2bo50bo2bo$5bobobo50bobobo$5bobob2o
19bo28b2obobo$3b2obo3bo17b2ob2o24bo3bobob2o$3bo2bob3o17bo2bo25bob2o2bo
2bo$2obobobo2bo18b2o26bo4bobobob2o$o2bo5b2o48b2obo2b2o2bo$b2o4bobo50bo
2bo3b2o$3b5obo50bob2ob2o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$4b4o54b4o2$4b2o58b2o$4b2o58b2o
11$16b2o34b2o$17bo34bo$14b3o36b3o$14bo40bo!
Edit: Blocks work fine:

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x = 70, y = 57, rule = B3/S23
19b2o28b2o$19b2o28b2o12$4b2o58b2o$4b2o58b2o2$4b4o54b4o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$
3b2ob2obo50bob5o$b2o3bo2bo50bobo4b2o$o2b2o2bob2o48b2o5bo2bo$2obobobo4b
o26b2o18bo2bobobob2o$3bo2bo2b2obo25bo2bo17b3obo2bo$3b2obobo3bo24b2ob2o
17bo3bob2o$5bobob2o28bo19b2obobo$5bobobo50bobobo$6bo2bo50bo2bo$7b2o52b
2o2$7b2o52b2o$6bo2bo50bo2bo$5bobobo50bobobo$5bobob2o19bo28b2obobo$3b2o
bo3bo17b2ob2o24bo3bobob2o$3bo2bob3o17bo2bo25bob2o2bo2bo$2obobobo2bo18b
2o26bo4bobobob2o$o2bo5b2o48b2obo2b2o2bo$b2o4bobo50bo2bo3b2o$3b5obo50bo
b2ob2o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$4b4o54b4o2$4b2o58b2o$4b2o58b2o12$19b2o28b2o$19b2o
28b2o!
Edit 2: Applied the pipsquirter stator-reduction shown in the below post to the block-based minimum-population variant:

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x = 70, y = 57, rule = B3/S23
19b2o28b2o$19b2o28b2o16$10b2o46b2o$6bo4bo46bo4bo$5bobobo50bobobo$5bobo
b2o48b2obobo$3b2obobo3bo16bo29bo3bob2o$3bo2bo2b2obo16b2o28b3obo2bo$2ob
obobo4bo17b2o27bo2bobobob2o$o2b2o2bob2o48b2o5bo2bo$b2o3bo2bo20bo29bobo
4b2o$3b2ob2obo50bob5o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$4b4o54b4o$8b3o48b3o$6b2o2bo48bo2b
2o$5bobobo29bo20bobobo$5bobob2o48b2obobo$3b2obo3bo27b2o17bo3bobob2o$3b
o2bob3o28b2o16bob2o2bo2bo$2obobobo2bo29bo16bo4bobobob2o$o2bo5b2o48b2ob
o2b2o2bo$b2o4bobo50bo2bo3b2o$3b5obo50bob2ob2o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$4b4o54b4o$
6bo56bo$8bo52bo$7b2o52b2o12$19b2o28b2o$19b2o28b2o!
Last edited by iNoMed on May 13th, 2021, 2:56 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » May 13th, 2021, 2:46 pm

Not much of an improvement:

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x = 70, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
13b2o40b2o$14bo40bo$14bobo36bobo$15b2o36b2o8$7b2o52b2o$8bo52bo$6bo56bo
$4b4o54b4o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$3b2ob2obo50bob5o$b2o3bo2bo50bobo4b2o$o2b2o2bo
b2o48b2o5bo2bo$2obobobo4bo26b2o18bo2bobobob2o$3bo2bo2b2obo25bo2bo17b3o
bo2bo$3b2obobo3bo24b2ob2o17bo3bob2o$5bobob2o28bo19b2obobo$5bobobo50bob
obo$6bo4bo46bo4bo$10b2o46b2o2$10b2o46b2o$6bo4bo46bo4bo$5bobobo50bobobo
$5bobob2o19bo28b2obobo$3b2obo3bo17b2ob2o24bo3bobob2o$3bo2bob3o17bo2bo
25bob2o2bo2bo$2obobobo2bo18b2o26bo4bobobob2o$o2bo5b2o48b2obo2b2o2bo$b
2o4bobo50bo2bo3b2o$3b5obo50bob2ob2o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$4b4o54b4o$6bo56bo$8b
o52bo$7b2o52b2o8$15b2o36b2o$14bobo36bobo$14bo40bo$13b2o40b2o!
Edit:

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x = 70, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
13b2o40b2o$14bo40bo$14bobo36bobo$15b2o36b2o12$10b2o46b2o$6bo4bo46bo4bo
$5bobobo50bobobo$5bobob2o48b2obobo$3b2obobo3bo26b2o18bo3bob2o$3bo2bo2b
2obo25bo2bo17b3obo2bo$2obobobo4bo24b2ob2o17bo2bobobob2o$o2b2o2bob2o28b
o19b2o5bo2bo$b2o3bo2bo50bobo4b2o$3b2ob2obo50bob5o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$4b4o
54b4o$8b3o48b3o$6b2o2bo48bo2b2o$5bobobo50bobobo$5bobob2o19bo28b2obobo$
3b2obo3bo17b2ob2o24bo3bobob2o$3bo2bob3o17bo2bo25bob2o2bo2bo$2obobobo2b
o18b2o26bo4bobobob2o$o2bo5b2o48b2obo2b2o2bo$b2o4bobo50bo2bo3b2o$3b5obo
50bob2ob2o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$4b4o54b4o$6bo56bo$8bo52bo$7b2o52b2o8$15b2o36b
2o$14bobo36bobo$14bo40bo$13b2o40b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by AforAmpere » May 13th, 2021, 3:03 pm

Putting two near each other with a couple blocks removed doubles the period:

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x = 102, y = 108, rule = B3/S23
51b2o28b2o$51b2o28b2o12$36b2o58b2o$36b2o58b2o2$36b4o54b4o$35bo4bo52bo
4bo$35b2ob2obo50bob5o$33b2o3bo2bo50bobo4b2o$32bo2b2o2bob2o48b2o5bo2bo$
32b2obobobo4bo16bo29bo2bobobob2o$35bo2bo2b2obo16b2o28b3obo2bo$35b2obob
o3bo17b2o27bo3bob2o$37bobob2o48b2obobo$37bobobo20bo29bobobo$38bo2bo50b
o2bo$39b2o52b2o2$39b2o52b2o$38bo2bo50bo2bo$37bobobo29bo20bobobo$37bobo
b2o48b2obobo$35b2obo3bo27b2o17bo3bobob2o$35bo2bob3o28b2o16bob2o2bo2bo$
32b2obobobo2bo29bo16bo4bobobob2o$32bo2bo5b2o48b2obo2b2o2bo$33b2o4bobo
50bo2bo3b2o$35b5obo50bob2ob2o$35bo4bo52bo4bo$36b4o54b4o2$36b2o58b2o$
36b2o58b2o8$19b2o$19b2o3$81b2o$81b2o8$4b2o58b2o$4b2o58b2o2$4b4o54b4o$
3bo4bo52bo4bo$3b2ob2obo50bob5o$b2o3bo2bo50bobo4b2o$o2b2o2bob2o48b2o5bo
2bo$2obobobo4bo16bo29bo2bobobob2o$3bo2bo2b2obo16b2o28b3obo2bo$3b2obobo
3bo17b2o27bo3bob2o$5bobob2o48b2obobo$5bobobo20bo29bobobo$6bo2bo50bo2bo
$7b2o52b2o2$7b2o52b2o$6bo2bo50bo2bo$5bobobo29bo20bobobo$5bobob2o48b2ob
obo$3b2obo3bo27b2o17bo3bobob2o$3bo2bob3o28b2o16bob2o2bo2bo$2obobobo2bo
29bo16bo4bobobob2o$o2bo5b2o48b2obo2b2o2bo$b2o4bobo50bo2bo3b2o$3b5obo
50bob2ob2o$3bo4bo52bo4bo$4b4o54b4o2$4b2o58b2o$4b2o58b2o12$19b2o28b2o$
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » May 13th, 2021, 3:07 pm

And of course...

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x = 62, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
9b2o40b2o$10bo40bo$10bobo36bobo$11b2o36b2o13$5bo50bo$3b3o50b3o$2bo3b2o
46b2o3bo$bob2o3bo26b2o16bo3b2obo$bobo3b2o25bo2bo16b3obobo$2obo2b3o24b
2ob2o17bo2bob2o$3bobobo27bo22bo$3bobobo48bobo$2b2ob2o48b2ob2o4$2b2ob2o
48b2ob2o$3bobo48bobobo$3bo22bo27bobobo$2obo2bo17b2ob2o24b3o2bob2o$bobo
b3o16bo2bo25b2o3bobo$bob2o3bo16b2o26bo3b2obo$2bo3b2o46b2o3bo$3b3o50b3o
$5bo50bo13$11b2o36b2o$10bobo36bobo$10bo40bo$9b2o40b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » May 15th, 2021, 11:12 am

Trying to replace the p6 sparker with an eater almost works...

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x = 62, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
9b2o40b2o$10bo40bo$10bobo36bobo$11b2o36b2o13$5bo48b2o$3b3o48bo$2bo3b2o
44bobo$bob2obobo43b2o$bobobobo29bo$2obo31b2obo$3bo2bo31bobo$3bobo29b4o
bo$2b2ob2o4$2b2ob2o48b2ob2o$3bob2o14bob4o29bobo$3bo3bo13bobo31bo2bo$2o
bobobo15bob2o31bob2o$bobo4bo15bo29bobobobo$bob2o3bo44bobob2obo$2bo3b2o
46b2o3bo$3b3o50b3o$5bo50bo13$11b2o36b2o$10bobo36bobo$10bo40bo$9b2o40b
2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » May 16th, 2021, 9:18 am

I'm posting this in a separate post because it's unrelated to my previous post and I just happen to have the most recent post.

We should have a technical definition for an LCM oscillator, and maybe even declare them semi-trivial (so that "smallest oscillator of each period" excludes them).

Definition: Pick any one phase. Some cells can be removed so that the remaining cells still form a working oscillator. This must be able to be done in at least two ways, and the resulting periods must have a LCM of the period of the full oscillator, and the LCM is not equal to the highest period. The oscillators cannot move fully (defined as being in any phase with no other cells adjacent for at least one generation). All cells must be accounted for. Trivial oscillators are not included in this definition.

Here is an example:

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x = 71, y = 19, rule = DoubleB3S23
23.2B$22.B2.B41.2C$22.B.B41.C2.C$23.B.2B39.C.C$24.3B40.C.2C$25.2B41.
3C$2A67.2C$.A42.2C$.A.A13.3A25.C$2.2A3.A8.A3.A24.C.C13.3C$6.A.2A6.A4.
A24.2C3.C8.C3.C$5.A4.A6.2A.A29.C.2C6.C4.C$6.A3.A8.A3.2A24.C4.C6.2C.C$
7.3A13.A.A24.C3.C8.C3.2C$25.A25.3C13.C.C$25.2A42.C$69.2C!
The red oscillator has a period of 22, the green a period of 4, and the white a period of 44 (which is the LCM).

This is not an LCM, as 7 is not a factor of 48.

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x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
2o15b2o$obo13bobo$2bo13bo$2b2o2bo5bo2b2o$7bo3bo$2b5o5b5o$2bo6bo6bo$4b
12o$3b2o10bobo$7b6o3b2o$6bo6bo$7b4ob2o$9bo3bob2o$11bobo2bo$10b2ob2o!
This is not an LCM, and this would be true even with p8s instead of molds, as the p44 would not be stable without anything on the left side.

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x = 43, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
21b2o4b2o4b2o$20bo2bobo4bobo2bo$20b3o10b3o$23b2o6b2o$22bo2b6o2bo$22b2o
8b2o5$4bo$2b2obo$bo$obo2bo$o2bo$b2o2$26b3o12b2o$25bo3bo11b2o$25b2ob2o
5$25b2ob2o$25bo3bo11b2o$26b3o12b2o2$b2o$o2bo$obo2bo$bo$2b2obo$4bo5$22b
2o8b2o$22bo2b6o2bo$23b2o6b2o$20b3o10b3o$20bo2bobo4bobo2bo$21b2o4b2o4b
2o!
Imagine a blinker was being hassled instead of a beehive. The "cannot move" rule would prevent this from being an LCM.

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49b2o3b3o9b3o3b2o$49b2o3b3o9b3o3b2o$58bo5bo$46b2o6b2o11b2o6b2o$46b2o6b
o4bo3bo4bo6b2o$55bo3bo3bo3bo$59bo3bo$57b2o5b2o$46b2ob2o21b2ob2o$46b2ob
obo19bobob2o$3b2o3b3o9b3o3b2o18b2o27b2o$3b2o3b3o9b3o3b2o25bo15bo$12bo
5bo29bo4bo15bo4bo$2o6b2o11b2o6b2o19b3o17b3o$2o6bo4bo3bo4bo6b2o8bo$9bo
3bo3bo3bo17bo$13bo3bo22bo$11b2o5b2o30b3o17b3o$2ob2o21b2ob2o17bo4bo15bo
4bo$2obobo19bobob2o7bo14bo15bo$2o27b2o6bobo6b2o27b2o$7bo15bo13bobo6b2o
bobo19bobob2o$2bo4bo15bo4bo9bo7b2ob2o21b2ob2o$4b3o17b3o30b2o5b2o$59bo
3bo$55bo3bo3bo3bo$46b2o6bo4bo3bo4bo6b2o$4b3o17b3o19b2o6b2o11b2o6b2o$2b
o4bo15bo4bo29bo5bo$7bo15bo25b2o3b3o9b3o3b2o$2o27b2o18b2o3b3o9b3o3b2o$
2obobo19bobob2o$2ob2o21b2ob2o$11b2o5b2o$13bo3bo$9bo3bo3bo3bo$2o6bo4bo
3bo4bo6b2o$2o6b2o11b2o6b2o$12bo5bo$3b2o3b3o9b3o3b2o$3b2o3b3o9b3o3b2o!
However, this is an LCM (despite not being listed as one on the LifeWiki). Neither blinker reappears fully in a different location.

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x = 41, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
28b2o7b2o$28b2o7b2o$2b2o7b2o$2b2o7b2o3$27b2o9b2o$29bo7bo$bo11bo14b2o7b
2o$b2o9b2o12bob2o7b2obo$ob2o7b2obo5bo5bo13bo$20bo$2o11b2o5bo$bo11bo12b
o13bo$bo11bo6bo5bob2o7b2obo$2o11b2o5bo7b2o7b2o$20bo8bo7bo$ob2o7b2obo
12b2o9b2o$b2o9b2o$bo11bo3$28b2o7b2o$28b2o7b2o$2b2o7b2o$2b2o7b2o!
Here's where the definition might fail. It feels like a 138 LCM 8 = 552 oscillator, but according to the definition above, this does not qualify. It's not stable without the blockers, and including just the blockers and the twin bee shuttles ignores the non-oscillator glider as well as making it only 46 LCM 8 = 184, not 552.

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x = 46, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$o22bo$o11b2o8b2o15b2o$ob2o8b2o7b2o16b2o$2b2o18b2o2b2o3$b2o$b
2o19b2o2b2o$21b2o16b2o$22b2o15b2o$23bo2$15bo$14b2o$14bobo9$29bo$16bo
10b5o$5b2o8b2o9b2obo2bo$5b2o7b2o9bo7bo$15b2o2b2o5b2obo2bo10b2o$27b5o
10bo2bo$29bo12bo$42bo$15b2o2b2o21bob2o$5b2o7b2o16b2o10b2o$5b2o8b2o15b
2o$16bo$43b2o$43b2o!
This is not an LCM, as 14 LCM 70 = 70, making the LCM equal to the highest period. If, for some reason, the 34P14 shuttles were P28s that sent sparks in the same place every 14 generations due to symmetry, it would be one despite not feeling like one. (Also, this is mine. Absolutely nobody acknowledged it.)

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x = 64, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
39b2o$31bo6bobo3b2o$31b2o4bo2bo3b2o$35bo3bo$35bobo2$35bobo$35bo3bo$31b
2o4bo2bo3b2o$31bo6bobo3b2o$39b2o$25b2o$25b2o6$b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o2$32bo$
31b3o$3o5b3o20bo2bo$o2bo3bo2bo22b2o$bo7bo41b2o$2bobobobo42b2o2$3b2ob2o
$23b2o$22bobo$2bo5bo12b2o17b2o12b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o12b2o17b2o12bo5bo$39bob
o$39b2o$56b2ob2o2$11b2o42bobobobo$11b2o41bo7bo$29b2o22bo2bo3bo2bo$29bo
2bo20b3o5b3o$30b3o$31bo2$54b2o5b2o$54b2o5b2o6$37b2o$37b2o$23b2o$18b2o
3bobo6bo$18b2o3bo2bo4b2o$24bo3bo$26bobo2$26bobo$24bo3bo$18b2o3bo2bo4b
2o$18b2o3bobo6bo$23b2o!
Does anyone have a better definition?

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » May 16th, 2021, 3:03 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
May 16th, 2021, 9:18 am
However, this is an LCM (despite not being listed as one on the LifeWiki). Neither blinker reappears fully in a different location.
I would say this is not an LCM, as the blinkers are being hassled, and the oscillator as a whole does not function quite like two sparkers, instead nearly destroying one (two).
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » May 16th, 2021, 10:12 pm

Is this a LCM? (period 182)

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x = 46, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
19bo7b2o$19b3o5b2o12b2o$13bo8bo17bo2bo$13b3o5b2o16bo2bobo$16bo21bo3bob
o$15b2o18b6obob2o$37bobo2bo$3b2o30bo2bob3o$2bo2bo29bobobo3b2o$bobo2bo
30bob2obo2bo$bobob2o29b2obo3b2o$2obob2o2b2o25bo4b2o$3bo4b2o26bo3bobo$
3b3o3b2o5bo18b2o5bob2o$b2o3bob2o5b2o22b2obobo$o2bob2obo12b2o16bo2bobo$
b2o5bo7b2o3bobo16bo2bo$3b3o2bo12bobo17b2o$3bo6bo11bo$2obobo3bo19b2o$bo
bobo3bo19bo$bob2obo16b2o5b3o$2bo2bo17bo8bo$3b2o12b2o5b3o$17b2o7bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » May 16th, 2021, 11:10 pm

hotdogPi wrote:
April 13th, 2021, 2:38 pm
The first is p20, which is a good number for multiple periods of sparkers, but the sparkers keep getting destroyed. Even the skewed 55P10 doesn't work. As it contains pi heptominoes as output, it can likely be made into a gun if something is found, although maybe not at p20 without very fast repeat time components.

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x = 48, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
bo2bo2bo$b7o27bo2bo2bo$35b7o$b7o$bo2bo2bo27b7o$35bo2bo2bo5$5bo$4b3o32b
o$3b2ob2o30b3o$ob2o2b3o28b2ob2o$2b2o4bo27b2o2b3o$2b3o4b2o23bob2o4bo$3b
2o4b3o24b3o4b2o$5bo4b2o25b2o4b3o$5b3o2b2obo25bo4b2obo$6b2ob2o28b3o2b2o
$7b3o30b2ob2o$8bo32b3o$42bo5$6bo2bo2bo$6b7o27bo2bo2bo$40b7o$6b7o$6bo2b
o2bo27b7o$40bo2bo2bo!
Ah-hah! Found something!

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x = 32, y = 90, rule = B3/S23
10bo13bo$9bobo11bobo$10bo13bo2$8b5o9b5o$7bo5bo7bo5bo$6bo2bobobo7bobobo
2bo$6b4obobob2ob2obobob4o$13bo2bobo2bo$8b3ob2o2bobo2b2ob3o$7bo6b2o3b2o
6bo$7bo3b3o7b3o3bo$6b2ob2o2bo7bo2b2ob2o$8bo3bo3bobo3bo3bo$8bo4b4ob4o4b
o$6bob2obo11bob2obo$5bobo4b2o2b3o2b2o4bobo$5bo3b2obobo2bo2bobob2o3bo$
6b3ob2o2b2o3b2o2b2ob3o$9bo3bo2b3o2bo3bo$8bo3b2obo3bob2o3bo$8b2o6bobo6b
2o$10bob2ob2ob2ob2obo$6b3obo3bo5bo3bob3o$5bo2bobo2bobobobobo2bobo2bo$
6bobo2b2o2b2ob2o2b2o2bobo$7b2o3b2o7b2o3b2o$12b2o7b2o$14bo5bo$15b5o5$
17bo$17bo$16bobo$17bo$17bo$27b2ob2o$16b3o9bobo$15b5o8bobo$15b2o2b2o6b
2ob2o$13b2o5b2o6bobo$2ob2o7b2o4b3o7bobo$bobo7b3o4b2o7b2ob2o$bobo6b2o5b
2o$2ob2o6b2o2b2o$bobo8b5o$bobo9b3o$2ob2o$14bo$14bo$13bobo$14bo$14bo5$
12b5o$11bo5bo$9b2o7b2o$4b2o3b2o7b2o3b2o$3bobo2b2o2b2ob2o2b2o2bobo$2bo
2bobo2bobobobobo2bobo2bo$3b3obo3bo5bo3bob3o$7bob2ob2ob2ob2obo$5b2o6bob
o6b2o$5bo3b2obo3bob2o3bo$6bo3bo2b3o2bo3bo$3b3ob2o2b2o3b2o2b2ob3o$2bo3b
2obobo2bo2bobob2o3bo$2bobo4b2o2b3o2b2o4bobo$3bob2obo11bob2obo$5bo4b4ob
4o4bo$5bo3bo3bobo3bo3bo$3b2ob2o2bo7bo2b2ob2o$4bo3b3o7b3o3bo$4bo6b2o3b
2o6bo$5b3ob2o2bobo2b2ob3o$10bo2bobo2bo$3b4obobob2ob2obobob4o$3bo2bobob
o7bobobo2bo$4bo5bo7bo5bo$5b5o9b5o2$7bo13bo$6bobo11bobo$7bo13bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » May 17th, 2021, 12:00 am

wwei47 wrote:
May 16th, 2021, 11:10 pm
Ah-hah! Found something!
Clever! Here's a reduction using the p5 sparker from the current smallest p20 gun:

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x = 28, y = 78, rule = B3/S23
9b2o9b2o$7bo2bo9bo2bo$4bo2b2o5b2o6b2o2bo$4b3o2b4o2bo2b4o2b3o$8bo3b3o3b
o3bo$6b2obo11bob2o$5bobobo4b3o4bobobo$5bo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bo$4b2o4bo3bob
o3bo4b2o$5bob3o3b2ob2o3b3obo$4bo2bo15bo2bo$5b2ob2o11b2ob2o$6bo6b2ob2o
6bo$6bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo$3b2obobob2o2bobo2b2obobob2o$3b2obobo3b2obob2o3bo
bob2o$6bo6bo3bo6bo$3b2obo5bobobobo5bob2o$3b2obob2ob3o3b3ob2obob2o$6bo
2b2o3b3o3b2o2bo$6b2o15b2o$12bo5bo$12bo5bo$13b5o5$15bo$15bo$14bobo$15bo
10b2o$15bo10bo$24bobo$14b3o7b2o$13b5o$13b2o2b2o$11b2o5b2o$10b2o4b3o$9b
3o4b2o$8b2o5b2o$9b2o2b2o$10b5o$2b2o7b3o$bobo$bo10bo$2o10bo$11bobo$12bo
$12bo5$10b5o$9bo5bo$9bo5bo$3b2o15b2o$3bo2b2o3b3o3b2o2bo$2obob2ob3o3b3o
b2obob2o$2obo5bobobobo5bob2o$3bo6bo3bo6bo$2obobo3b2obob2o3bobob2o$2obo
bob2o2bobo2b2obobob2o$3bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo$3bo6b2ob2o6bo$2b2ob2o11b2ob2o$
bo2bo15bo2bo$2bob3o3b2ob2o3b3obo$b2o4bo3bobo3bo4b2o$2bo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o
2bo$2bobobo4b3o4bobobo$3b2obo11bob2o$5bo3bo3b3o3bo$b3o2b4o2bo2b4o2b3o$
bo2b2o6b2o5b2o2bo$4bo2bo9bo2bo$6b2o9b2o!
Edit: Based on a suggestion by wwei47, a new p4 oscillator allows the construction of a new p20 gun.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » May 17th, 2021, 6:53 am

The new P4 oscillator can interact with the eater 3:

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x = 106, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
49b2o$49bobo$51bo$47b4ob2o$47bo4bobo35b2o$49bo2bo2bo34bo$53bobo36bo$
14bo35b2ob2o36b4o$13bobo36bo36bo5bo$14bo39b3o32bob4obo$54bo2bo31bobo2b
obo2b2o$12b5o33b2o3b2obo36b2obo2bo$12bo4bo32b2obo2bobo32b3o4b2o2bo$15b
2obo32bobo2bob2o31bo5bo2b3o$15b2obo2bo29b3ob2obo2bo29b4o3bo4b2o$12bo5b
obobo25bo11b2o26bo4b2o3bo3bo2bo$11bobo4bo2bo25bobo5b3o29bobo10bobob2o$
4b3o4bo2bo2b2o21b3o4bo2bo29b3o4bo2bo11bo$2o10b2o22b2o10b2o26b2o10b2o
11b2o$o2bob2ob3o25bo2bob2ob3o29bo2bob2ob3o$2b2obo2bobo27b2obo2bobo31b
2obo2bobo$3bobo2bob2o27bobo2bob2o31bobo2bob2o$3bob2o3b2o27bob2o3b2o31b
ob2o3b2o$4bo2bo32bo2bo36bo2bo$5b3o33b3o37b3o$9bo35bo39bo$7b2ob2o31b2ob
2o35b2ob2o$6bobo33bobo37bobo$6bo2bo2bo29bo2bo2bo33bo2bo2bo$7bobo4bo28b
obo4bo32bobo4bo$8b2ob4o29b2ob4o33b2ob4o$10bo35bo39bo$10bobo33bobo37bob
o$11b2o34b2o38b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei47 » May 17th, 2021, 5:25 pm

Did anyone ever stabilize this P20 wick before?

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x = 83, y = 105, rule = B3/S23
16b2o6bo33bo6b2o$6b2o4bo2bo2bo4bobo31bobo4bo2bo2bo4b2o$5bobo2b3o3bobo
4bo2bo29bo2bo4bobo3b3o2bobo$4bo2bobo3b3o2bob2ob4o29b4ob2obo2b3o3bobo2b
o$bo2bob2ob2obo2bobobobo39bobobobo2bob2ob2obo2bo$obobo5b3o4bobo2b3o33b
3o2bobo4b3o5bobobo$bo2bo3bo2bo6b2ob2o2bo12b2o3b2o12bo2b2ob2o6bo2bo3bo
2bo$4bo4bobob2ob3obo2b2o2bo10bobobobo10bo2b2o2bob3ob2obobo4bo$5b5ob2ob
obo2b2obobo3bo11bobo11bo3bobob2o2bobob2ob5o$10bo3bo2b2obobo3b3o6b2o3bo
bo3b2o6b3o3bobob2o2bo3bo$7bo2bo3bo3bobobob2o2b2o10bobo10b2o2b2obobobo
3bo3bo2bo$7b3o3b2obo2bob2o2bo2b3o2bo15bo2b3o2bo2b2obo2bob2o3b3o$16b2ob
o3b3o2b3o2bo5bo3bo5bo2b3o2b3o3bob2o$7b3o3b2obo2bob2o2bo2b3o2bo5bo3bo5b
o2b3o2bo2b2obo2bob2o3b3o$7bo2bo3bo3bobobob2o2b2o23b2o2b2obobobo3bo3bo
2bo$10bo3bo2b2obobo3b3o6b3o7b3o6b3o3bobob2o2bo3bo$5b5ob2obobo2b2obobo
3bo25bo3bobob2o2bobob2ob5o$4bo4bobob2ob3obo2b2o2bo9b3o3b3o9bo2b2o2bob
3ob2obobo4bo$bo2bo3bo2bo6b2ob2o2bo31bo2b2ob2o6bo2bo3bo2bo$obobo5b3o4bo
bo2b3o10bo4bobo4bo10b3o2bobo4b3o5bobobo$bo2bob2ob2obo2bobobobo13bo4bob
o4bo13bobobobo2bob2ob2obo2bo$4bo2bobo3b3o2bob2ob4o8bo4bobo4bo8b4ob2obo
2b3o3bobo2bo$5bobo2b3o3bobo4bo2bo29bo2bo4bobo3b3o2bobo$6b2o4bo2bo2bo4b
obo11b3o3b3o11bobo4bo2bo2bo4b2o$16b2o6bo33bo6b2o$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo
4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo
4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo
$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bo
bo4bo2$37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$
37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b
3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b3o$16b2o
6bo33bo6b2o$6b2o4bo2bo2bo4bobo11b3o3b3o11bobo4bo2bo2bo4b2o$5bobo2b3o3b
obo4bo2bo29bo2bo4bobo3b3o2bobo$4bo2bobo3b3o2bob2ob4o8bo4bobo4bo8b4ob2o
bo2b3o3bobo2bo$bo2bob2ob2obo2bobobobo13bo4bobo4bo13bobobobo2bob2ob2obo
2bo$obobo5b3o4bobo2b3o10bo4bobo4bo10b3o2bobo4b3o5bobobo$bo2bo3bo2bo6b
2ob2o2bo31bo2b2ob2o6bo2bo3bo2bo$4bo4bobob2ob3obo2b2o2bo9b3o3b3o9bo2b2o
2bob3ob2obobo4bo$5b5ob2obobo2b2obobo3bo25bo3bobob2o2bobob2ob5o$10bo3bo
2b2obobo3b3o6b3o7b3o6b3o3bobob2o2bo3bo$7bo2bo3bo3bobobob2o2b2o23b2o2b
2obobobo3bo3bo2bo$7b3o3b2obo2bob2o2bo2b3o2bo5bo3bo5bo2b3o2bo2b2obo2bob
2o3b3o$16b2obo3b3o2b3o2bo5bo3bo5bo2b3o2b3o3bob2o$7b3o3b2obo2bob2o2bo2b
3o2bo15bo2b3o2bo2b2obo2bob2o3b3o$7bo2bo3bo3bobobob2o2b2o10bobo10b2o2b
2obobobo3bo3bo2bo$10bo3bo2b2obobo3b3o6b2o3bobo3b2o6b3o3bobob2o2bo3bo$
5b5ob2obobo2b2obobo3bo11bobo11bo3bobob2o2bobob2ob5o$4bo4bobob2ob3obo2b
2o2bo10bobobobo10bo2b2o2bob3ob2obobo4bo$bo2bo3bo2bo6b2ob2o2bo12b2o3b2o
12bo2b2ob2o6bo2bo3bo2bo$obobo5b3o4bobo2b3o33b3o2bobo4b3o5bobobo$bo2bob
2ob2obo2bobobobo39bobobobo2bob2ob2obo2bo$4bo2bobo3b3o2bob2ob4o29b4ob2o
bo2b3o3bobo2bo$5bobo2b3o3bobo4bo2bo29bo2bo4bobo3b3o2bobo$6b2o4bo2bo2bo
4bobo31bobo4bo2bo2bo4b2o$16b2o6bo33bo6b2o!
EDIT:
JP21 wrote:
December 31st, 2020, 12:22 am
I couldn't find oscillators that can complete the pattern and there's no p22 edge-shooting glider gun that can work.
Slightly less annoying?

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x = 41, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
13bobo$14b2o19bo$14bo18b2o$34b2o2$19bo$20b2o2bo14bo$13b2o4b2o3bo3bobo
7bo$13bo14b2o8b3o$11bobo15bo$10bobo$6b2o3bo$6b2o25bo$18b2o13bobo$13bo
2bo3bo12b2o$12bo2bo2b2o4bo$15bo2b2ob2o2bo$16bo4b2o2bo2bo$6b2o12bo3bo2b
o$5bobo13b2o$7bo25b2o$29bo3b2o$28bobo$11bo15bobo$3o8b2o14bo$2bo7bobo3b
o3b2o4b2o$bo14bo2b2o$21bo2$5b2o$6b2o18bo$5bo19b2o$25bobo!
EDIT: Stabilization for one side of the P25 wick:

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x = 41, y = 81, rule = B3/S23
12bo$12b3o$15bo$14b2o6$28bo$26b3o$25bo$4b2o2bo8bo7b2o$4bo2bobo6b3o$5bo
bobo5b2obo$4b2obob2o$3bo3bo3bo$2bobobo4bo$2bo3b2o3bo11bo8bo2b2o$3b2obo
4bo10b3o6bobo2bo$7bo3bo10bob2o5bobobo$b5obob2o19b2obob2o$o4bobobo19bo
3bo3bo$b3obobobo19bo4bobobo$3bobobob2o6bo11bo3b2o3bo$5bobobo6b3o10bo4b
ob2o$5bobobo5b2obo10bo3bo$4b2obob2o19b2obob5o$3bo3bo3bo19bobobo4bo$2bo
bobo4bo19bobobob3o$2bo3b2o3bo11bo6b2obobobo$3b2obo4bo10b3o6bobobo$7bo
3bo10bob2o5bobobo$b5obob2o19b2obob2o$o4bobobo19bo3bo3bo$b3obobobo19bo
4bobobo$3bobobob2o6bo11bo3b2o3bo$5bobobo6b3o10bo4bob2o$5bobobo5b2obo
10bo3bo$4b2obob2o19b2obob5o$3bo3bo3bo19bobobo4bo$2bobobo4bo19bobobob3o
$2bo3b2o3bo11bo6b2obobobo$3b2obo4bo10b3o6bobobo$7bo3bo10bob2o5bobobo$b
5obob2o19b2obob2o$o4bobobo19bo3bo3bo$b3obobobo19bo4bobobo$3bobobob2o6b
o11bo3b2o3bo$5bobobo6b3o10bo4bob2o$5bobobo5b2obo10bo3bo$4b2obob2o19b2o
bob5o$3bo3bo3bo19bobobo4bo$2bobobo4bo19bobobob3o$2bo3b2o3bo11bo6b2obob
obo$3b2obo4bo10b3o6bobobo$7bo3bo10bob2o5bobobo$b5obob2o19b2obob2o$o4bo
bobo19bo3bo3bo$b3obobobo19bo4bobobo$3bobobob2o6bo11bo3b2o3bo$5bobobo6b
3o10bo4bob2o$5bobobo5b2obo10bo3bo$4b2obob2o19b2obob5o$3bo3bo3bo19bobob
o4bo$2bobobo4bo19bobobob3o$2bo3b2o3bo11bo6b2obobobo$3b2obo4bo10b3o6bob
obo$7bo3bo10bob2o5bobobo$b5obob2o19b2obob2o$bo2bo2bobo19bo3bo3bo$6bo2b
o19bo4bobobo$7b2o8bo11bo3b2o3bo$16b3o10bo4bob2o$15b2obo10bo3bo$30b2obo
b5o$31bobo2bo2bo$31bo2bo$23bo8b2o$22b3o$22bob2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » May 17th, 2021, 9:26 pm

wwei47 wrote:
May 17th, 2021, 5:25 pm
Did anyone ever stabilize this P20 wick before?

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x = 83, y = 105, rule = B3/S23
16b2o6bo33bo6b2o$6b2o4bo2bo2bo4bobo31bobo4bo2bo2bo4b2o$5bobo2b3o3bobo
4bo2bo29bo2bo4bobo3b3o2bobo$4bo2bobo3b3o2bob2ob4o29b4ob2obo2b3o3bobo2b
o$bo2bob2ob2obo2bobobobo39bobobobo2bob2ob2obo2bo$obobo5b3o4bobo2b3o33b
3o2bobo4b3o5bobobo$bo2bo3bo2bo6b2ob2o2bo12b2o3b2o12bo2b2ob2o6bo2bo3bo
2bo$4bo4bobob2ob3obo2b2o2bo10bobobobo10bo2b2o2bob3ob2obobo4bo$5b5ob2ob
obo2b2obobo3bo11bobo11bo3bobob2o2bobob2ob5o$10bo3bo2b2obobo3b3o6b2o3bo
bo3b2o6b3o3bobob2o2bo3bo$7bo2bo3bo3bobobob2o2b2o10bobo10b2o2b2obobobo
3bo3bo2bo$7b3o3b2obo2bob2o2bo2b3o2bo15bo2b3o2bo2b2obo2bob2o3b3o$16b2ob
o3b3o2b3o2bo5bo3bo5bo2b3o2b3o3bob2o$7b3o3b2obo2bob2o2bo2b3o2bo5bo3bo5b
o2b3o2bo2b2obo2bob2o3b3o$7bo2bo3bo3bobobob2o2b2o23b2o2b2obobobo3bo3bo
2bo$10bo3bo2b2obobo3b3o6b3o7b3o6b3o3bobob2o2bo3bo$5b5ob2obobo2b2obobo
3bo25bo3bobob2o2bobob2ob5o$4bo4bobob2ob3obo2b2o2bo9b3o3b3o9bo2b2o2bob
3ob2obobo4bo$bo2bo3bo2bo6b2ob2o2bo31bo2b2ob2o6bo2bo3bo2bo$obobo5b3o4bo
bo2b3o10bo4bobo4bo10b3o2bobo4b3o5bobobo$bo2bob2ob2obo2bobobobo13bo4bob
o4bo13bobobobo2bob2ob2obo2bo$4bo2bobo3b3o2bob2ob4o8bo4bobo4bo8b4ob2obo
2b3o3bobo2bo$5bobo2b3o3bobo4bo2bo29bo2bo4bobo3b3o2bobo$6b2o4bo2bo2bo4b
obo11b3o3b3o11bobo4bo2bo2bo4b2o$16b2o6bo33bo6b2o$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo
4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo
4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo
$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bo
bo4bo2$37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$
37b3o3b3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b
3o2$37b3o3b3o2$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo$35bo4bobo4bo2$37b3o3b3o$16b2o
6bo33bo6b2o$6b2o4bo2bo2bo4bobo11b3o3b3o11bobo4bo2bo2bo4b2o$5bobo2b3o3b
obo4bo2bo29bo2bo4bobo3b3o2bobo$4bo2bobo3b3o2bob2ob4o8bo4bobo4bo8b4ob2o
bo2b3o3bobo2bo$bo2bob2ob2obo2bobobobo13bo4bobo4bo13bobobobo2bob2ob2obo
2bo$obobo5b3o4bobo2b3o10bo4bobo4bo10b3o2bobo4b3o5bobobo$bo2bo3bo2bo6b
2ob2o2bo31bo2b2ob2o6bo2bo3bo2bo$4bo4bobob2ob3obo2b2o2bo9b3o3b3o9bo2b2o
2bob3ob2obobo4bo$5b5ob2obobo2b2obobo3bo25bo3bobob2o2bobob2ob5o$10bo3bo
2b2obobo3b3o6b3o7b3o6b3o3bobob2o2bo3bo$7bo2bo3bo3bobobob2o2b2o23b2o2b
2obobobo3bo3bo2bo$7b3o3b2obo2bob2o2bo2b3o2bo5bo3bo5bo2b3o2bo2b2obo2bob
2o3b3o$16b2obo3b3o2b3o2bo5bo3bo5bo2b3o2b3o3bob2o$7b3o3b2obo2bob2o2bo2b
3o2bo15bo2b3o2bo2b2obo2bob2o3b3o$7bo2bo3bo3bobobob2o2b2o10bobo10b2o2b
2obobobo3bo3bo2bo$10bo3bo2b2obobo3b3o6b2o3bobo3b2o6b3o3bobob2o2bo3bo$
5b5ob2obobo2b2obobo3bo11bobo11bo3bobob2o2bobob2ob5o$4bo4bobob2ob3obo2b
2o2bo10bobobobo10bo2b2o2bob3ob2obobo4bo$bo2bo3bo2bo6b2ob2o2bo12b2o3b2o
12bo2b2ob2o6bo2bo3bo2bo$obobo5b3o4bobo2b3o33b3o2bobo4b3o5bobobo$bo2bob
2ob2obo2bobobobo39bobobobo2bob2ob2obo2bo$4bo2bobo3b3o2bob2ob4o29b4ob2o
bo2b3o3bobo2bo$5bobo2b3o3bobo4bo2bo29bo2bo4bobo3b3o2bobo$6b2o4bo2bo2bo
4bobo31bobo4bo2bo2bo4b2o$16b2o6bo33bo6b2o!
Yes:

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x = 21, y = 95, rule = B3/S23
3b2o11b2o$4bo11bo$3bo13bo$3b2o5bo5b2o$6b2obobob2o$b5obobobobob5o$o4bo
3bobo3bo4bo$b3o2bo2bobo2bo2b3o$3bobobobobobobobo$4b5o3b5o$5b3o5b3o2$5b
3o3b3o2$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo2$5b3o3b3o2$5b3o3b3o2$3bo4b
obo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo2$5b3o3b3o2$5b3o3b3o2$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bo
bo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo2$5b3o3b3o2$5b3o3b3o2$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bob
o4bo2$5b3o3b3o2$5b3o3b3o2$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo2$5b3o3b
3o2$5b3o3b3o2$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo2$5b3o3b3o2$5b3o3b3o
2$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo2$5b3o3b3o2$5b3o3b3o2$3bo4bobo4bo
$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo2$5b3o3b3o2$5b3o3b3o2$3bo4bobo4bo$3bo4bobo4bo$
3bo4bobo4bo2$5b3o3b3o2$5b3o5b3o$4b5o3b5o$3bobobobobobobobo$b3o2bo2bobo
2bo2b3o$o4bo3bobo3bo4bo$b5obobobobob5o$6b2obobob2o$3b2o5bo5b2o$3bo13bo
$4bo11bo$3b2o11b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » May 18th, 2021, 12:15 am

wwei47 wrote:
May 17th, 2021, 5:25 pm
Did anyone ever stabilize this P20 wick before?
Here's a post that briefly covers the history of supports for this wick. The p10 support was first noted here.
-Matthias Merzenich

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