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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Alexander Yu » August 27th, 2021, 2:55 pm

I wanted to make the invert glider gun thing when I accidentally discovered this:

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x = 105, y = 85, rule = B3/S23
24bo$22bobo$12b2o6b2o12b2o$11bo3bo4b2o12b2o$2o8bo5bo3b2o$2o8bo3bob2o4b
obo$10bo5bo7bo$11bo3bo$12b2o$23bo$24b2o$23b2o2$20b2o$19b2o$21bo2$30bo
bo$31b2o$31bo$28bo$27b2o$27bobo2$38bo$39b2o$38b2o2$35b2o$34b2o$36bo2$
45bobo$46b2o$46bo$43bo$42b2o$42bobo2$53bo$54b2o$53b2o2$50b2o$49b2o$51b
o2$60bobo$61b2o$61bo$58bo$57b2o$57bobo2$68bo$69b2o$68b2o2$65b2o$64b2o
$66bo2$75bobo$76b2o$76bo$73bo$72b2o$72bobo2$83bo$84b2o$83b2o2$80b2o$79b
2o$81bo$91b2o$89bo3bo$80bo7bo5bo$80bobo4b2obo3bo8b2o$83b2o3bo5bo8b2o$
69b2o12b2o4bo3bo$69b2o12b2o6b2o$80bobo$80bo!


if i didn't paste the pattern wrong, it should be an infinitely extensible oscillator
hi.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by yujh » August 27th, 2021, 3:46 pm

Alexander Yu wrote:
August 27th, 2021, 2:55 pm
I wanted to make the invert glider gun thing when I accidentally discovered this:

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snip

if i didn't paste the pattern wrong, it should be an infinitely extensible oscillator
Yep, it is definetely extensible, and pretty neat, although one glider ie enough:

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24bo$22bobo$12b2o6b2o12b2o$11bo3bo4b2o12b2o$2o8bo5bo3b2o$2o8bo3bob2o4bobo$10bo5bo7bo$11bo3bo$12b2o$23bo$24b2o$23b2o65$91b2o$89bo3bo$80bo7bo5bo$80bobo4b2obo3bo8b2o$83b2o3bo5bo8b2o$69b2o12b2o4bo3bo$69b2o12b2o6b2o$80bobo$80bo!
However, i'm pretty confident it should be known
Nothing to apgsearch? Try b38s23/C1!

B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k!!!

b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8

B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8

B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by ihatecorderships » August 28th, 2021, 10:23 am

Bi-block hassler mechanism, p7-p9 shown:

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x = 244, y = 99, rule = B3/S23
89bo42bo$88bobo40bobo$88bobo10bo3b2o8b2o3bo10bobo$86b2o2b2o8bobobobo8b
obobobo8b2o2b2o$87bobo6b2o2bobobo12bobobo2b2o6bobo$86bo2b4o3bobobobob
2o10b2obobobobo3b4o2bo$86bobo4bo3b2obo2bo3bo2b2o2bo3bo2bob2o3bo4bobo$
87bob3obo6bo3bo5b2o5bo3bo6bob3obo$89bob2o6bo4bo3bo4bo3bo4bo6b2obo$89bo
b2o6bo4bo3bo4bo3bo4bo6b2obo$87bob3obo6bo3bo5b2o5bo3bo6bob3obo$86bobo4b
o3b2obo2bo3bo2b2o2bo3bo2bob2o3bo4bobo$86bo2b4o3bobobobob2o10b2obobobob
o3b4o2bo$87bobo6b2o2bobobo12bobobo2b2o6bobo$86b2o2b2o8bobobobo8bobobob
o8b2o2b2o$88bobo10bo3b2o8b2o3bo10bobo$88bobo40bobo$89bo42bo24$81b2o13b
2o36b2o13b2o$77b2obo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bob2o28b2obo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bob2o$78bo
b3obo2b2ob2o2bob3obo30bob3obo2b2ob2o2bob3obo$75b3o6bo9bo6b3o24b3o6bo9b
o6b3o$75bo2b6ob9ob6o2bo24bo2b6ob9ob6o2bo$77bo5bo3bo5bobobo4bo26bo4bobo
bo5bo3bo5bo$68b2o8b4o2b2o3b2o3bo3b2o32b2o3bo3b2o3b2o2b4o8b2o$68bo2bo7b
3o6bo2bo4b2o8b5obo2b2o2bob5o8b2o4bo2bo6b3o7bo2bo$71b3o17bo5b2o3bob2o9b
2o9b2obo3b2o5bo17b3o$68b2obo2bob2o13bo8bo2bo9bo4bo9bo2bo8bo13b2obo2bob
2o$68b2obo2bob2o13bo8bo2bo9bo4bo9bo2bo8bo13b2obo2bob2o$71b3o17bo5b2o3b
ob2o9b2o9b2obo3b2o5bo17b3o$68bo2bo7b3o6bo2bo4b2o8b5obo2b2o2bob5o8b2o4b
o2bo6b3o7bo2bo$68b2o8b4o2b2o3b2o3bo3b2o32b2o3bo3b2o3b2o2b4o8b2o$77bo5b
o3bo5bobobo4bo26bo4bobobo5bo3bo5bo$75bo2b6ob9ob6o2bo24bo2b6ob9ob6o2bo$
75b3o6bo9bo6b3o24b3o6bo9bo6b3o$78bob3obo2b2ob2o2bob3obo30bob3obo2b2ob
2o2bob3obo$77b2obo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bob2o28b2obo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bob2o$81b2o
13b2o36b2o13b2o15$100b2o2b2o32b2o2b2o$58b2o2b2o6b2o11bo11bo5bo3bo32bo
3bo5bo11bo11b2o6b2o2b2o$53b2o3b2o2bobo5bo10b3o5b2o3bobo4bobobob2o26b2o
bobobo4bobo3b2o5b3o10bo5bobo2b2o3b2o$13b2o7b2o6bo16b2o3bobo9bo6b3ob2o
3bo5bo2bobobo2bo5bobobobo26bobobobo5bo2bobobo2bo5bo3b2ob3o6bo9bobo3b2o
16bo6b2o7b2o$13bo9bo5bobo9b2o5bo3bobob9ob2o5bobobo3b6o4bob2ob2o6bo3bob
2o20b2obo3bo6b2ob2obo4b6o3bobobo5b2ob9obobo3bo5b2o9bobo5bo9bo$8bob2obo
9bob2obobo10bobo4bob2obob2o8bobo7bob4o6b4o3bo4bo3b2o2b2obobo18bobob2o
2b2o3bo4bo3b4o6b4obo7bobo8b2obob2obo4bobo10bobob2obo9bob2obo$8b2obob2o
7b2obob2o2b3o9bo2b2obobobo4b2o2b2obo8bobo4b5obo3b2o3b2ob2o9bo22bo9b2ob
2o3b2o3bob5o4bobo8bob2o2b2o4bobobob2o2bo9b3o2b2obob2o7b2obob2o$b2o3b2o
8bo3bo8b2o3bobobo4bobo3bo3bo4b3o2bobobo2b2obob2obo2bob3o3b2o2b3obobo7b
3obo20bob3o7bobob3o2b2o3b3obo2bob2obob2o2bobobo2b3o4bo3bo3bobo4bobobo
3b2o8bo3bo8b2o3b2o$o2bobo2bob5obo3bob5obo2bo7bobobo2bo2bobo3b2o2b3obob
o4bo6bobo12bo2bobobob5o2bo2bobo16bobo2bo2b5obobobo2bo12bobo6bo4bobob3o
2b2o3bobo2bo2bobobo7bo2bob5obo3bob5obo2bobo2bo$obo3bob2o4bo2bobo2bo4b
2obo2bo4bo3b2obobob4o8b3o5b2o2bob2ob2obo2b2ob2obob2o2b2o2bo6bo4bob3obo
2b2o2bob3obo4bo6bo2b2o2b2obob2ob2o2bob2ob2obo2b2o5b3o8b4obobob2o3bo4bo
2bob2o4bo2bobo2bo4b2obo3bobo$bob2obo3b4o2b2ob2o2b4o3bob2o2b2o4bobo2b2o
8bobo4b2obobo6bo2b2o3b2ob2obob2o2bo2b2obo4bo4b3o6b2o6b3o4bo4bob2o2bo2b
2obob2ob2o3b2o2bo6bobob2o4bobo8b2o2bobo4b2o2b2obo3b4o2b2ob2o2b4o3bob2o
bo$3bo2b2o2bo2bo3bobo3bo2bo2b2o12bo3b2o4bo3b3ob2obo14bo3b2o3b4o5bo2bob
obo5b2o7bo4bo7b2o5bobobo2bo5b4o3b2o3bo14bob2ob3o3bo4b2o3bo12b2o2bo2bo
3bobo3bo2bo2b2o2bo$3bo2b2o2bo2bo3bobo3bo2bo2b2o12bo3b2o4bo3b3ob2obo14b
o3b2o3b4o5bo2bobobo5b2o7bo4bo7b2o5bobobo2bo5b4o3b2o3bo14bob2ob3o3bo4b
2o3bo12b2o2bo2bo3bobo3bo2bo2b2o2bo$bob2obo3b4o2b2ob2o2b4o3bob2o2b2o4bo
bo2b2o8bobo4b2obobo6bo2b2o3b2ob2obob2o2bo2b2obo4bo4b3o6b2o6b3o4bo4bob
2o2bo2b2obob2ob2o3b2o2bo6bobob2o4bobo8b2o2bobo4b2o2b2obo3b4o2b2ob2o2b
4o3bob2obo$obo3bob2o4bo2bobo2bo4b2obo2bo4bo3b2obobob4o8b3o5b2o2bob2ob
2obo2b2ob2obob2o2b2o2bo6bo4bob3obo2b2o2bob3obo4bo6bo2b2o2b2obob2ob2o2b
ob2ob2obo2b2o5b3o8b4obobob2o3bo4bo2bob2o4bo2bobo2bo4b2obo3bobo$o2bobo
2bob5obo3bob5obo2bo7bobobo2bo2bobo3b2o2b3obobo4bo6bobo12bo2bobobob5o2b
o2bobo16bobo2bo2b5obobobo2bo12bobo6bo4bobob3o2b2o3bobo2bo2bobobo7bo2bo
b5obo3bob5obo2bobo2bo$b2o3b2o8bo3bo8b2o3bobobo4bobo3bo3bo4b3o2bobobo2b
2obob2obo2bob3o3b2o2b3obobo7b3obo20bob3o7bobob3o2b2o3b3obo2bob2obob2o
2bobobo2b3o4bo3bo3bobo4bobobo3b2o8bo3bo8b2o3b2o$8b2obob2o7b2obob2o2b3o
9bo2b2obobobo4b2o2b2obo8bobo4b5obo3b2o3b2ob2o9bo22bo9b2ob2o3b2o3bob5o
4bobo8bob2o2b2o4bobobob2o2bo9b3o2b2obob2o7b2obob2o$8bob2obo9bob2obobo
10bobo4bob2obob2o8bobo7bob4o6b4o3bo4bo3b2o2b2obobo18bobob2o2b2o3bo4bo
3b4o6b4obo7bobo8b2obob2obo4bobo10bobob2obo9bob2obo$13bo9bo5bobo9b2o5bo
3bobob9ob2o5bobobo3b6o4bob2ob2o6bo3bob2o20b2obo3bo6b2ob2obo4b6o3bobobo
5b2ob9obobo3bo5b2o9bobo5bo9bo$13b2o7b2o6bo16b2o3bobo9bo6b3ob2o3bo5bo2b
obobo2bo5bobobobo26bobobobo5bo2bobobo2bo5bo3b2ob3o6bo9bobo3b2o16bo6b2o
7b2o$53b2o3b2o2bobo5bo10b3o5b2o3bobo4bobobob2o26b2obobobo4bobo3b2o5b3o
10bo5bobo2b2o3b2o$58b2o2b2o6b2o11bo11bo5bo3bo32bo3bo5bo11bo11b2o6b2o2b
2o$100b2o2b2o32b2o2b2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by hotdogPi » August 28th, 2021, 10:37 am

ihatecorderships wrote:
August 28th, 2021, 10:23 am
Bi-block hassler mechanism, p7-p9 shown:

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rle
It's known. The pentadecathlon version is in jslife.
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Periods discovered: 6,8,10-16,18,20,21G,22,24,25,27-31,32SG,35,36,40,42,45,48,50,54G,55G,57G,60,63-66,70,74S,75,76S,84,96S,100,117G,120,126,128S,138,147,156,196S,217,486,576

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C28 » September 2nd, 2021, 8:21 am

R and blinker makes u-turner and glider

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
3o2$6bo$4bobo$4b3o!
edit: boring p12 r hassler

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x = 26, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
14bo$12b3o$11bo5bo$10bob6o$10bobo$9b2o2b2ob2o$11bob2ob2o$11bob2o$2b2o
b2o5bo$3bobobo11b2ob2o$3bobo12bobobo$2obo16bobo$bobo2bo2bob3o8bob2o$b
ob2obobo2bo4bo2bo2bobo$2bo3b2o3b2o4bobob2obo$3b3o12b2o3bo$5bo14b3o$11b
o8bo$10bob2o$10bob2ob2o$8b2o2b2ob2o$9bobo$9bob6o$10bo5bo$11b3o$13bo!

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Qyz » September 3rd, 2021, 3:25 am

13-bit U-turner predecessor, at generation 255 of R-pentomino(converges to generation 1 of U-turner at 275)

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x=6, y=7, rule=B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$2obo$bob2o$4b2o2$4bo!
13~15-bit predecessors similar to generation 252:

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x=66, y=11, rule=B3/S23
2bo18bo18bo18bo$bo18bo18bo18bo$o18bo18bo18bo$o18bo18bo18bo$b2o17b2o17b2o17b2o$2bo18bo18bo18bo$3bo18bo18bo18bo$4b2o17b2o17b2o17b2o$7bo18b2o17b2o17b2o$7bo18bo17b2o18bo$6bo19bo18bo18b2o!
In the R sequence, the U-turner crashes into a blinker at generation 282, and would become R-turner if not further perturbed.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by pzq_alex » September 3rd, 2021, 8:30 am

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x = 25, y = 18, rule = Life:T0,18
b2o2b2o6bobo$obob5ob2ob3o$b2o4b4ob2o2bo$2obob2ob3o2b2obo$3o2b2ob9o$o3b
2obob2obob2o$o2bo2b4o2bo3bo$3o2bob2obo2bo2bo5b3o$2o3bob2ob3o2b2o7bo$3o
bo2b2obobo9b3o$2bob2obob2ob4o$o2bo2bo3b3obobo$2b2o4b3o3bo$obob4obobo3b
o$2b2ob2ob5obobo$4obobo2b2o$5o2bo5b2obo$2o2b2ob2o4b2o!
The 3c/10 wave, pufferized.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C28 » September 14th, 2021, 1:36 pm

glider "flips" Herschel

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x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
13bo$11b2o$12b2o10$3o$bo$b3o!

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » September 15th, 2021, 12:17 am

I don't think that this is in Mark Niemiec's database.

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x = 16, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
11bobo$11b2o$12bo2$15bo$8bobo2b2o$2bo5b2o4b2o$obo6bo$b2o4$6b2o$6b2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by mniemiec » September 15th, 2021, 4:49 am

MathAndCode wrote:
September 15th, 2021, 12:17 am
I don't think that this is in Mark Niemiec's database. ...
Very nice! No, I don't have this one. (I think it might be possible that someone else may have found a 4 glider converter to do this, either this one or a different one, but I have no such converter in my notes; all the mechanisms I know require at least 5 gliders). This should improve a very large number of syntheses.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C28 » September 17th, 2021, 1:56 pm

p89 flipper partial that might be unsalvageable

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x = 77, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
38bo$37bo$36b3o$35bo2b2o2$36bo38bo$36b3o35bobo$36b3o35bobo$2bo30b2o2b
2o36bo$bobo28b2ob2o34b2o$o32b4o32bo2bo$o2bo31bo36bo$2o67bobo$70bo$34b
3o$34b3o!

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » September 17th, 2021, 2:39 pm

C28 wrote:
September 17th, 2021, 1:56 pm
p89 flipper partial that might be unsalvageable

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x = 77, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
38bo$37bo$36b3o$35bo2b2o2$36bo38bo$36b3o35bobo$36b3o35bobo$2bo30b2o2b
2o36bo$bobo28b2ob2o34b2o$o32b4o32bo2bo$o2bo31bo36bo$2o67bobo$70bo$34b
3o$34b3o!
To clarify, that's

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#C [[ ZOOM 7 WIDTH 800 HEIGHT 400 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 2 ]]
x = 107, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
53.C44.E4.D$2.A49.A44.EBE.2B$.A.A46.B3A40.3BEBE5B$A16.4D3.2D5.D16.2BA
2B2A12.2D3.2D7.D11.5BE6B$A2.A13.D5.D8.D11.11B11.D2.D.D2.D7.D10.B2A9B$
2A9.D5.D4.D10.D9.8BA3B6.D7.D4.D8.D8.A2BA9B$10.3D4.3D2.3D3.7D7.9B3A2B
4.3D5.D4.D4.7D7.3BA10B$11.D8.D.D2.D7.D9.8B3A2B5.D7.D4.D8.D8.ABA11B$
17.D2.D.D2.D6.D10.5B2A2B2AB11.D2.D.D2.D7.D10.A11B$18.2D3.2D6.D10.5B2A
B2A3B12.2D3.2D7.D10.13B$43.5B4A3B38.12B$44.6BA4B39.11B$46.9B41.9B$47.
8B42.8B$47.2B3A4B40.10B$49.3A5B40.10B$50.7B40.10B$54.2B42.3B3.2B$98.
3B$99.B!
Adding the white cells and then removing the yellow cells, and then doing it again at 180 degrees, would produce a mod-89 flipper, period 178. Unfortunately there are only half a dozen ticks available to remove the beehive, and it's forming during half of that time, so it doesn't look like a stable catalyst has time to remove it.

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Re: Thread for your Accidental discoveries

Post by Alexander Yu » September 18th, 2021, 1:29 am

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x = 199, y = 212, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo$obo$bo7$11b2o$11bobo$11bo8$28b2o$28bobo$28bo15$35b2o$35bobo$35b
o8$52b2o$52bobo$52bo15$59b2o$59bobo$59bo8$76b2o$76bobo$76bo15$83b2o$83b
obo$83bo8$100b2o$100bobo$100bo15$107b2o$107bobo$107bo8$124b2o$124bobo
$124bo15$131b2o$131bobo$131bo8$148b2o$148bobo$148bo15$155b2o$155bobo$
155bo8$172b2o$172bobo$172bo15$179b2o$179bobo$179bo8$196b2o$196bobo$196b
o!

This feels like it can be used for a zebraship, i accidentally discovered this when playing in sandbox.
Last edited by Alexander Yu on September 23rd, 2021, 12:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C28 » September 19th, 2021, 11:26 am

U-turner+honeyfarm = tub+ 2 gliders

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x = 19, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
12bo$11bobo$11bobo$12bo2$7b2o7b2o$6bo2bo5bo2bo$7b2o7b2o2$12bo$11bobo$
11bobo$12bo4$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
edit: temporary beehive with tail

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x = 14, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
7bo$6bobo$6bobo$7bo2$2b2o7b2o$bo2bo5bo2bo$2b2o7b2o2$7bo$6bobo$6bobo$7b
o5$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
edit 2: H+ship = U-turner+beehive

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
5b3o$7bo$6b3o3$b2o$obo$2o!
edit 3: eater 1 becomes up barge with tail

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x = 12, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
9b3o$9b3o$8bobo$8b2o$2b2o$bobo$bo6b2o$2o6b2o!

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by hotdogPi » September 22nd, 2021, 11:03 am

Three TL + spark → moved TL

Left: 30
Center: 33; this spark appears in the p18 LOM hassler, but it moves inward and destroys it
Right: 69 (fishhook suppresses block)

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x = 87, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
66bo18b2o$31bo34bo18bo$4bo26bo34bo16bobo$4bo26bo51b2o$4bo57b3o3b3o$27b
3o3b3o$3o3b3o57bo$31bo34bo$4bo26bo34bo$4bo26bo35bo$4bo60bo2bo$5bo25b3o
$3bobo24bob2o!
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Periods discovered: 6,8,10-16,18,20,21G,22,24,25,27-31,32SG,35,36,40,42,45,48,50,54G,55G,57G,60,63-66,70,74S,75,76S,84,96S,100,117G,120,126,128S,138,147,156,196S,217,486,576

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C28 » September 22nd, 2021, 4:22 pm

almost r-turner to U-turner.

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x = 29, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bobo$8bo2$6b5o$5bo4bo$4bo2bo$bo2bob2o$obobo5bo$bo2bo4bobo$4b2o2b
o2bo$9b2o11b2o$24bo$20bo2bo$20b3o5$25b2o$25bobo$27bo$27b2o!

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Tropylium » September 23rd, 2021, 11:18 am

Crossposting from Talk:Turner.

This was briefly discussed on the forums in 2018:
dani wrote:
August 2nd, 2018, 12:52 pm
I found this reaction posted by user 'Hunting':

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x = 4, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$o2bo$b2o2$2bo$b3o$2obo$3o$3o$3o$b2o!
Although it's probably been seen many times. My question is, how would I go about searching for a reaction that turns this into a clean HWSS reflector? It seems possible, although I don't know much about conduit searching.
At the time Dave commented:
dvgrn wrote:
August 29th, 2018, 7:41 am
it would take a serious stroke of luck to convert it into a clean HWSS, let alone regenerate the pond at the same time. The reaction is mostly inside the reaction envelope of the collision --
which suggests to me that no tamed version of any sort was known.

A few minutes of toying with manually placed catalysts however reveals that a great variety of objects with a hook indeed suffice to clean this up to give an output HWSS:

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x = 61, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
59b2o$60bo$bo5b2o48bo$obo3bo2bo47b2o$bobo2bo2bo$2b2o3b2o$58b2o$57bo2bo
$57bo2bo$58b2o5$43b2o$42bobo$42bo$43bo$12bo6b2o20bobo$12b3o3bo2bo19b2o
$15bo2bo2bo$14b2o3b2o$42b2o$41bo2bo$41bo2bo$36b2o4b2o$35bobo$35bo$13b
2o4b2o12bobo$13bo4bo2bo11b2o$15bo2bo2bo$14b2o3b2o$34b2o$20bo12bo2bo$
19b3o11bo2bo$18b2obo12b2o$18b3o$18b3o$18b3o$19b2o4$15b2o$14bo2bo$14bo
2bo$15b2o$30b2o3b2o$29bo2bo2bobo$16b2o11bo2bo3bobo$13bobobo12b2o6bo$3b
2o8b2o23b2o$2bo2bo$2bo2bo$3b2o$38b2o3b2o$37bo2bo2bobo$4b2o31bo2bo3bo$
3bobo32b2o5b3o$4bo42bo!
Towards the construction of a stable reflector, no especially simple still lifes seem to output a G or H to be fed into bait reconstruction circuitry. Adding third catalysts would probably achieve this, left as a future exercise (wwei23 already posted some on the wiki).

Anyway this seemed too easy to have gone undetected for years, so maybe this is in fact known already?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » September 24th, 2021, 8:52 am

Tropylium wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 11:18 am
At the time Dave commented:
dvgrn wrote:
August 29th, 2018, 7:41 am
it would take a serious stroke of luck to convert it into a clean HWSS, let alone regenerate the pond at the same time. The reaction is mostly inside the reaction envelope of the collision --
which suggests to me that no tamed version of any sort was known.

A few minutes of toying with manually placed catalysts however reveals that a great variety of objects with a hook indeed suffice to clean this up to give an output HWSS... Anyway this seemed too easy to have gone undetected for years, so maybe this is in fact known already?
Interesting question! Speaking only for myself, I didn't know about the pond-and-aircraft-carrier HWSS turner, or its other clean variants. It's possible that I did know about it once and have since forgotten, but I don't think so.

There's probably some confusion about terminology here, though. The question I was answering above was "... how would I go about searching for a reaction that turns this into a clean HWSS reflector?" And reflector means that whatever the HWSS hits will return to its original configuration. So that's the question I was answering; it's possible that the question was really about turners, but I was thinking it was about adding catalysts that could produce a clean HWSS output and rebuild the pond directly.

The structures that you and wwei23 have constructed are one-time turners -- fairly good turners, but they're not reflectors, and they're not very easy to convert into reflectors. To do that you'd really want to end up with an HWSS plus some other signal output, which could then be split into many signals to rebuild the bait. By the time you're done with that project, the circuitry is probably huge -- almost certainly bigger and slower than what we have already for HWSS-to-H plus H-to-HWSS... or even, HWSS Heisenburp plus G-to-HWSS, plus an HWSS eater I suppose.
Tropylium wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 11:18 am
Towards the construction of a stable reflector, no especially simple still lifes seem to output a G or H to be fed into bait reconstruction circuitry. Adding third catalysts would probably achieve this, left as a future exercise (wwei23 already posted some on the wiki).
Here the only piece of terminology I'd argue with is the use of "catalyst". If something is destroyed completely and rebuilt with totally separate signals, it's usually called a bait, even though it is technically also a (very slow to recover) transparent catalyst.

A Survey for Someone
Here's something that has not to my knowledge been done yet. All common well-separated pairs of common still lifes that fit inside 12x12 have been hit with all possible gliders, but they've never been hit with all possible *WSSes. There are some results for *WSS outputs for the 8x8 case with no maximum number of objects, but nothing for starting with an input *WSS. So the equivalent census run could be done for hitting those same constellations with *WSSes, and seeing if any *WSSes come out. No doubt there will be lots of clean glider outputs, too, if it seems worth collecting those.

If anyone wants to compile a *WSS-input stamp collection for the 12x12 constellations, let me know. I have most of the necessary scripts lying around somewhere, but they'll need to be generalized and updated, and checked in somewhere so that they can be used for hypothetical future more ambitious enumerations of constellations.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by GUYTU6J » September 26th, 2021, 9:27 am

Combining the 84-tick turn in pi orbital and an 82-tick turn I found (which can be seen here), I made a giant glider-supported p83 pi-heptomino loop:

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x = 169, y = 391, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$32bobo$34bo4b2o$30b4ob2o2bo2bo$30bo2bobobobob2o$33bobobobo$34b2o
bobo$38bo2$24b2o$25bo7b2o$25bobo5b2o$26b2o3$42bo$43bo$41b3o2$36b2o$36b
o$37b3o$39bo3$22bo$22b2o$21bobo22bo$45bobo$36b2o7bobo$35bo2bo5b2ob3o$
29b2o7bo11bo$3b2o24b2o13b2ob3o$4bo30bo3bo4b2obo$2bo31bo5bo$2b5o14b2o
11bo5bo$7bo13bo16b3o21bo$4b3o12bobo12bo3bo5b2o17b2o$3bo15b2o13bo9b2o
16b2o$3b4o27b2o$b2o3bo3b2o11b2o11bo$o2b3o4b2o11b2o$2obo$3bo$3b2o40b2o$
20b2o23b2o$20bobo$11b2o7bo$12bo28bo$9b3o28b2o$9bo30bobo5$31b2o$32bo$
29b3o52bo$29bo52bobo$83b2o10$61b2o$61bobo$61bo7$103bobo$104b2o$104bo4$
34b2o$34bobo$36bo4b2o$32b4ob2o2bo2bo$32bo2bobobobob2o$35bobobobo$36b2o
bobo40b2o$40bo40b2o$83bo$26b2o$27bo7b2o$27bobo5b2o$28b2o2$125bo$126bo$
124b3o3$18b2o10bo7b2o104bo$19bo10b2o6bo103b3o$17bo11bobo7b3o8bo90bo$
17b5o14b3o2bo9bo89b2o$22bo13bo2bo9b3o$19b3o12bobo2b2o$18bo15b2o113b2o$
18b4o128bo$16b2o3bo3b2o75b3o45bob2o$15bo2b3o4b2o75bo39b2o4b3o2bo$15b2o
bo84bo38b2o3bo3b2o$18bo128b4o$18b2o113b2o15bo$132bobo12b3o$132bo13bo$
26b2o103b2o6bo7b5o$27bo109b2o12bo$24b3o111b2o9bo$24bo124b2o2$42b2o$42b
obo$42bo$70bo14bo$71b2o10b3o$70b2o10bo$82b2o17bo$100bobo$100bobo21bo$
90b2o6b3ob2o19b2o$91bo5bo16b2o7bobo$91bob2o3b3ob2o3b2o5b2o$83b2o4b3o2b
o5bo4bo$83b2o3bo3b2o8bo5bo$88b4o$74b2o15bo$73bobo12b3o12bo3bo9bo$73bo
13bo29bobo$72b2o14b5o11bobo10b2o$92bo6b2o4bo$90bo8b2o8bo37b2o$63b2o25b
2o16bobo36bo$62b2o43bo2bo38bo$64bo9bo33b2o19b2o14b5o$74bobo48b2o3bo13b
o$74b2o49bobo2bobo12b3o$101b2o24bo3b2o15bo$62bo38b2o24b2o16b4o$60b3o
72b2o3b2o3bo3b2o$59bo74bobo3b2o4b3o2bo$58bobo75bo11bob2o$58bobo87bo$
59bo50b2o35b2o$110b2o2$139b2o$115bo23bo$43b2o11bo56b2o25b3o$43b2o10bob
o56b2o26bo$54bo3bo$54bo3bo$54b2ob2o$63b2o18b3o$63bobo17bo$65bo18bo$65b
2o3$46bob2o$44b3ob2o64b2o$43bo30b2o39b2o$44b3ob2o24b2o38bo$46b2o2bo$
49bobo6bo$45bob2obobo4bobo30bo$45b2obo2bo7bo28b3o$48bo6b2o3bo26bo$48b
2o5b2o2bo27b2o33bo$46b2o2bobo6bo61bobo$45bo2bo2b2o68bobo$46b2o7b2o2b2o
28bo7bo22b2ob2o$55b6o28bo7bo21bo2bo2bo$57bo27b2o2bo7bo2b2o16bobobobobo
$84b2o15b2o16bobobobo$85bo4bo5bo4bo19bobo$86bob4o3b4obo20bo2bo$52bo8b
2o29bobo27b2o$52b3o5bo2bo24bo9bo$55bo5b2o25bo9bo$54b2o33bobo3bobo23b2o
$90bo5bo24b2o4$46b2o24bo5bo$46b2o23bobo3bobo33b2o$70bo9bo25b2o5bo$70bo
9bo24bo2bo5b3o$45b2o27bobo29b2o8bo$44bo2bo20bob4o3b4obo$45bobo19bo4bo
5bo4bo$43bobobobo16b2o15b2o$42bobobobobo16b2o2bo7bo2b2o27bo$43bo2bo2bo
21bo7bo28b6o$44b2ob2o22bo7bo28b2o2b2o7b2o$45bobo68b2o2bo2bo$45bobo61bo
6bobo2b2o$46bo33b2o27bo2b2o5b2o$81bo26bo3b2o6bo$78b3o28bo7bo2bob2o$78b
o30bobo4bobob2obo$110bo6bobo$118bo2b2o$54bo38b2o24b2ob3o$52b2o39b2o30b
o$53b2o64b2ob3o$119b2obo3$102b2o$84bo18bo$85bo17bobo$83b3o18b2o$110b2o
b2o$110bo3bo$110bo3bo$26bo26b2o56bobo10b2o$26b3o25b2o56bo11b2o$29bo23b
o$28b2o2$57b2o$20b2o35b2o50bo$20bo87bobo$17b2obo11bo75bobo$17bo2b3o4b
2o3bobo74bo$18b2o3bo3b2o3b2o72b3o$20b4o16b2o24b2o38bo$20bo15b2o3bo24b
2o$21b3o12bobo2bobo49b2o$24bo13bo3b2o48bobo$19b5o14b2o19b2o33bo9bo$19b
o38bo2bo43b2o$21bo36bobo16b2o25b2o$20b2o37bo8b2o8bo$63bo4b2o6bo$50b2o
10bobo11b5o14b2o$49bobo29bo13bo$51bo9bo3bo12b3o12bobo$77bo15b2o$77b4o$
60bo5bo8b2o3bo3b2o$63bo4bo5bo2b3o4b2o$53b2o5b2o3b2ob3o3b2obo$43bobo7b
2o16bo5bo$44b2o19b2ob3o6b2o$44bo21bobo$66bobo$67bo17b2o$86bo10b2o$83b
3o10b2o$83bo14bo$126bo$124bobo$125b2o2$18b2o124bo$19bo9b2o111b3o$17bo
12b2o109bo$17b5o7bo6b2o103b2o$22bo13bo$19b3o12bobo$18bo15b2o113b2o$18b
4o128bo$16b2o3bo3b2o38bo84bob2o$15bo2b3o4b2o39bo75b2o4b3o2bo$15b2obo
45b3o75b2o3bo3b2o$18bo128b4o$18b2o113b2o15bo$128b2o2bobo12b3o$117b3o9b
o2bo13bo$26b2o89bo9bo2b3o14b5o$27bo90bo8b3o7bobo11bo$24b3o103bo6b2o10b
o$24bo104b2o7bo10b2o3$42b3o$42bo$43bo2$139b2o$132b2o5bobo$132b2o7bo$
141b2o$85bo$86b2o40bo$85b2o40bobob2o$127bobobobo$124b2obobobobo2bo$
124bo2bo2b2ob4o$126b2o4bo$132bobo$133b2o4$64bo$63b2o$63bobo7$107bo$
105bobo$106b2o10$84b2o$84bobo52bo$84bo52b3o$136bo$136b2o5$126bobo30bo$
127b2o28b3o$127bo28bo$148bo7b2o$146bobo$122b2o23b2o$122b2o40b2o$165bo$
165bob2o$144b2o11b2o4b3o2bo$132bo11b2o11b2o3bo3b2o$133b2o27b4o$105b2o
16b2o9bo13b2o15bo$104b2o17b2o5bo3bo12bobo12b3o$106bo21b3o16bo13bo$128b
o5bo11b2o14b5o$128bo5bo31bo$121bob2o4bo3bo30bo$119b3ob2o13b2o24b2o$
118bo11bo7b2o$119b3ob2o5bo2bo$121bobo7b2o$121bobo$122bo22bobo$145b2o$
146bo3$129bo$129b3o$132bo$131b2o2$125b3o$125bo$126bo3$141b2o$134b2o5bo
bo$134b2o7bo$143b2o2$130bo$129bobob2o$129bobobobo$126b2obobobobo2bo$
126bo2bo2b2ob4o$128b2o4bo$134bobo$135b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C28 » September 26th, 2021, 11:33 am

glider shifts H' and becomes r-turner

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x = 15, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
3o$bo$b3o4$13b2o$12b2o$14bo!

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » September 26th, 2021, 12:09 pm

GUYTU6J wrote:
September 26th, 2021, 9:27 am
Combining the 84-tick turn in pi orbital and an 82-tick turn I found (which can be seen here), I made a giant glider-supported p83 pi-heptomino loop...
Nice work!

This isn't important at all and you probably already know it, but mirror-reflecting a Bandersnatch or moving it to the other side of a Snark will give different timing results, so there's often a way to tighten up a long glider loop:

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x = 177, y = 225, rule = LifeHistory
136.2A$42.2A91.A.A$42.A.A84.2A4.A$44.A4.2A76.A2.A2.2A.4A$40.4A.2A2.A
2.A74.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$40.A2.A.A.A.A.2A77.A.ABABAB$42.BABABA.A80.A.AB2AB
$43.B2ABA.A81.AB.2B$44.2B.BA85.3B$43.3B88.4B6.2A$34.2A6.4B86.6B6.A$
35.A6.B2A3B84.6B3.BA.A$35.A.AB3.B2A3B63.A18.5BA4B.B2A$36.2AB.10B61.3A
2B13.6BA6B$38.13B60.3BA13.6BABA5B$38.14B58.3B2AB11.7B2A6B$38.15B57.8B
8.4B2.2B2A4B$40.8B2.4B55.3B3.3B7.4B5.6B$40.6B5.BABA52.6B2.6B3.4B4.9B$
39.9B4.B2AB50.16B.4B5.2A4.4B$38.4B4.2A5.A3B34.A13.21B7.A5.4B$37.4B5.A
7.4B33.3A10.8B.13B4.3A7.4B$24.2A10.4B7.3A5.4B35.A8.12B3A8B4.A10.4B$
25.A9.4B10.A6.4B33.2A7.4B2.6BA3BA8B15.4B$23.A10.2A2B19.4B32.5B3.4B2.
6BA5BA8B15.4B$23.5A5.B3A5.2A14.4B33.3B2.4B3.6BA5BA7B2A15.4B$28.A4.ABA
B5.A16.4B22.2A7.9B5.5B3AB3A7B2A16.4B$25.3AB2.2B4AB.BA.A17.4B21.A8.B3A
4B9.17B18.4B$24.A.2B3.2AB3AB.B2A19.4B17.2A.A.B3.3BA3BA2B5.B4.16B20.4B
$24.6A2BABA2BA2B22.4B16.A2.3AB.3BA5BAB4.2AB.18B21.4B$22.2A2.B3ABA2BA
2BA2B23.4B16.2A2.BA4BA5BAB4.2A8B4A7B23.4B$21.A2.3AB.A2BA3B2A2B24.4B
17.4A4BA5BAB5.B.6B2A2B2A7B23.4B$21.2A.A.B3.B2A7B25.4B16.A.2B3.2BA3BA.
B2A5.5BA6BA7B23.3BA$24.A8.3A2BA2B25.4B16.3AB2.3B3AB.BA.A4.6B2A2B2A8B
24.B2AB$24.2A7.A4BA3B25.4B18.A4.4B5.A5.6B4A8B26.ABAB$34.3B2.4B25.4B
12.5A5.4B5.2A5.17B27.4B$32.A3BA3.4B25.4B11.A10.4B12.17B27.4B$32.AB7.
4B25.4B12.A9.4B10.14B.B2A.A26.4B$33.A8.4B25.3BA10.2A10.4B9.B2AB2.B2.B
5.B2AB3A25.4B$30.3A10.4B25.3BA22.4B9.2A5.3B6.B4.A25.4B10.2A$30.A13.4B
25.3AB22.4B14.B2AB5.2A.3A27.4B9.A$45.4B25.4B13.A8.4B14.2A7.A.A30.4B
10.A$46.4B25.4B10.3A9.4B22.A.A24.2A5.4B5.5A$47.4B25.4B8.A13.4B22.A26.
A5.4B4.A$48.4B25.4B7.2A13.4B48.A.AB.7B2.B3A$49.2B2A25.4B3.5B14.4B48.
2AB.7B3.2B.A$50.2A2B25.4B2.3B17.4B13.A35.12B4A$51.BA2B25.9B7.2A8.4B
10.3A35.7B2A3BAB2.2A$52.4B25.8B8.A9.4B8.A38.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$53.4B25.10B
3.B.A.2A7.4B7.2A37.10B3.B.A.2A$54.4B24.7B2A2B.B3A2.A8.4B3.5B36.8B8.A$
55.4B23.7B2A3BAB2.2A10.4B2.3B37.9B7.2A$56.4B22.12B4A13.2BA6B7.2A26.2A
2B2.3B$57.4B19.2AB.7B3.2B.A14.2B2A4B8.A25.ABAB3.5B$58.4B17.A.AB.7B2.B
3A16.2A8B3.B.A.2A21.3BA7.2A$59.4B16.A5.4B4.A19.7B2A4B3A2.A20.4B8.A$
60.4B14.2A5.4B5.5A14.7B2A3BAB2.2A20.4B10.3A$61.4B19.4B10.A14.12B4A21.
4B13.A$62.4B17.BA2B9.A14.2AB.8B2.2B.A20.4B$63.4B15.2A2B6.A3.2A12.A.AB
.7B2.B3A20.4B$64.4B13.2B2A6.A.A16.A5.5B3.A22.4B$65.4B11.4B7.A.A15.2A
5.4B5.5A16.4B$66.4B9.4B6.3A.2A20.4B10.A15.4B$67.4B7.4B6.A4.B11.2A7.4B
9.A16.4B$68.4B5.4B8.3AB2AB2.2B4.B2AB5.4B10.2A14.4B$69.4B3.4B11.A.2A6B
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Syniii » September 27th, 2021, 4:30 am

probably nbd -- is this known? 36 cell still life, C2 symmetry two loops attached to a photonegative very long snake -- but works with snakes generally:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$bo2bo$bobo2b2o$2ob3o2bo$6bobo$5bobo$4bobo$3bobo$3bo2b3ob2o$4b2o2b
obo$7bo2bo$8b2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C28 » October 4th, 2021, 10:18 am

Hershel

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
2b3o$2b3o$bobo$b2o3$3o$2bo$bo!
hmm...

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x = 22, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
b3o$b3o$obo$2o3$19b2o$19bobo$19bo!
edit: ok

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x = 22, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b3o$b3o$obo$2o4$19b2o$19bobo$19bo!
glider affects u-turner in odd way

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x = 27, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
b3o$b3o$obo$2o5$24b3o$24bo$25bo!
b

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x = 22, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
19b3o$19b3o$18bobo$18b2o5$b2o$obo$2bo!
I heptomino

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x = 8, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
5b3o$5b3o$4bobo$4b2o7$b2o$obo$2bo!
block and glider

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x = 6, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
3b3o$3b3o$2bobo$2b2o11$3o$2bo$bo!
toad

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x = 18, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
b3o$b3o$obo$2o11$15b3o$15bo$16bo!
Herschel

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x = 26, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
23b3o$23b3o$22bobo$22b2o11$b2o$obo$2bo!
far beehives

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x = 28, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
b3o$b3o$obo$2o13$25b3o$25bo$26bo!

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C28 » October 6th, 2021, 3:27 pm

glider+b makes r-turner. the block deletes junk

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$7b2o5$bo$2bo$3o$8bo$7b3o$6b2obo!
edit: {text}

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x = 13, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
10bo$8b2o$9b2o3$11bo$10bobo$11bo6$3o$bo$b3o!
beehives

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x = 44, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
9bo$7bobo$8b2o6$23bo$21bobo$22b2o5$41b3o$37bo3b3o$35bobo2bobo$36b2o2b
2o7$29b2o$28bobo$30bo6$15b2o$14bobo$16bo6$b2o$obo$2bo!

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by MathAndCode » October 7th, 2021, 8:09 pm

Is this sideshooting of a queen bee known?

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x = 18, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
o5bo$b2obobo$2o3b2o5$15b2o$14bo2bo$14bo2bo$15b2o!

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