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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by hotcrystal0 » October 31st, 2024, 8:24 pm

P36 gun reduced to 32 by 35 by P1GG:

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x = 32, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
5b2o3b2o4bo$6bo4bo3bobo$b2o3bob3o4bobo12b2o$2bo2b2obo5b2ob2o11bo$2bob
o8bo14bobo$2obob2o7b4o10b2o$o2bo6bo6bo7b2o$2bob2o4bo5bo7bobo$b2obobo3b
o2bo4bo7bo$4b4obo2bob3o$b2obo4bo2bobo2b2o$2bob2ob2o$2bo2bobo$b2o2bobo
$6bo2$4bo5bo11b2o$3bobo3bobo8b2o2bo$2bo2bo3bobo8b2ob2o$2bobob2obob2o7b
o2b2o$3b2obob2o3bo7b2o$5bo4bob2o$3b2o2b3obobo5bo4b2o$3bo6bob2o5bo3bob
o$2obo2b2o2bob2o5bo3bo$bo2b2ob2obo2bo10b2o$bo5bo2bob2o11bo$2b4obob2ob
o11b2o4b2o$6bo2bo2bo11bo5bo$4bo4bobo5b2o5bo2b2obo$4b2o4bo5bo2bo8bob2o
$16bobo7bobo$17bob2o4bobo2b2o$18b3o4bo2b2obo$19b2o3b2o!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » November 1st, 2024, 11:52 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
October 31st, 2024, 8:24 pm
P36 gun reduced to 32 by 35 by P1GG:

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x = 32, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
5b2o3b2o4bo$6bo4bo3bobo$b2o3bob3o4bobo12b2o$2bo2b2obo5b2ob2o11bo$2bob
o8bo14bobo$2obob2o7b4o10b2o$o2bo6bo6bo7b2o$2bob2o4bo5bo7bobo$b2obobo3b
o2bo4bo7bo$4b4obo2bob3o$b2obo4bo2bobo2b2o$2bob2ob2o$2bo2bobo$b2o2bobo
$6bo2$4bo5bo11b2o$3bobo3bobo8b2o2bo$2bo2bo3bobo8b2ob2o$2bobob2obob2o7b
o2b2o$3b2obob2o3bo7b2o$5bo4bob2o$3b2o2b3obobo5bo4b2o$3bo6bob2o5bo3bob
o$2obo2b2o2bob2o5bo3bo$bo2b2ob2obo2bo10b2o$bo5bo2bob2o11bo$2b4obob2ob
o11b2o4b2o$6bo2bo2bo11bo5bo$4bo4bobo5b2o5bo2b2obo$4b2o4bo5bo2bo8bob2o
$16bobo7bobo$17bob2o4bobo2b2o$18b3o4bo2b2obo$19b2o3b2o!
affamatodidio reduced it further to 32x32 with a custom p3:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
16b2o10b3o$16bo13bo$7bo5b2obo2bo9bo$7b3o4bob2ob3o$10bo2bo2bo$9bobo2b2o
2b2o$9bob3o2b3o$10b2ob4obo$22bo$21bobo$21bobo$22bo$23bo$4bo5bo12b2o$3b
obo3bobo10bo$2bo2bo3bobo11b2o$2bobob2obob2o$3b2o3b2o3b2o$6bo3bob3o$3b
2ob2obobo2b2o2b3o$3bo2bo3bo2b3o2bobo$2obo4bob2ob3o2b3o$bo2b2o2bobo3bo
$bo5bo2bob2o$2b4obob2obo17b2o$6bo2bo2bo10b2o5bo$4bo4bobo5b2o4b2o2b2ob
o$4b2o4bo5bo2bo8bob2o$16bobobo5bobo$17bob3o3bob2o$19b3o3bo$24b2o!
EDIT: Just to clarify, the original reaction was found on Discord by iNoMed, and is general to most 3-cell pushes that fit; here is a p50 gun with the same mechanism, based on p50 traffic jam:

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x = 35, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
10bo2bo$10bo2bo$8b2ob2ob2o$2o8bo2bo$bo8bo2bo$o7b2ob2ob2o$2o2b2o4bo2bo
$3bobo4bo2bo$2obo$bob2o2b2o$bo5b2o$2o31b2o$30b2o2bo$8b3o18b2ob2o$7bo3b
o11bobo3b2o$7bo3bo10bo6b2o$7bo3bo10bo3bo2b2ob2o$8b3o11bo7b2o2bo$23b2o
8b2o2$25bo2bo$8b2o15bo2bo$8b2o13b2ob2ob2o$25bo2bo$25bo2bo$23b2ob2ob2o
$25bo2bo$25bo2bo$16b2o$12b3o2bo$15b2o$4bo6bo$3bo7bo$3b3o9b2o$12b3o2bo
$16b2o!
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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by AlbertArmStain » November 1st, 2024, 5:37 pm

Period1GliderGun wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 11:52 am

affamatodido reduced it further to 32x32 with a custom p3:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
16b2o10b3o$16bo13bo$7bo5b2obo2bo9bo$7b3o4bob2ob3o$10bo2bo2bo$9bobo2b2o
2b2o$9bob3o2b3o$10b2ob4obo$22bo$21bobo$21bobo$22bo$23bo$4bo5bo12b2o$3b
obo3bobo10bo$2bo2bo3bobo11b2o$2bobob2obob2o$3b2o3b2o3b2o$6bo3bob3o$3b
2ob2obobo2b2o2b3o$3bo2bo3bo2b3o2bobo$2obo4bob2ob3o2b3o$bo2b2o2bobo3bo
$bo5bo2bob2o$2b4obob2obo17b2o$6bo2bo2bo10b2o5bo$4bo4bobo5b2o4b2o2b2ob
o$4b2o4bo5bo2bo8bob2o$16bobobo5bobo$17bob3o3bob2o$19b3o3bo$24b2o!
This would be a further reduction, that is if the P3 wasn't interfering with the P4, and the P4 had better clearance:

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x = 26, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
10b2o10b3o$10bo13bo$bo5b2obo2bo9bo$b3o4bob2ob3o$4bo2bo2bo$3bobo2b2o2b
2o$3bob3o2b3o$4b2ob4obo$16bo$5b2o8bobo$5b2o8bobo$16bo$3b6o8bo$2bo2bo3b
o7b2o$2b2o2b3o7bo$7bo9b2o$7b2o$7b2o$7b2o$2b2o3b3o2b3o$2bo4b3o2bobo$3b
o3b3o2b3o$3o4b2o$o6b2o$7b2o15b2o$7bo9b2o5bo$2b2o2b3o8b2o2b2obo$2bo2bo
3bo12bob2o$3b6o4b2o5bobo$13b3o3bob2o$5b2o6b2obo2bo$5b2o8bobobo$14bo2b
ob2o$15b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by LWSSONHWSSONLWSS » November 4th, 2024, 12:08 pm

Period1GliderGun wrote:
October 31st, 2024, 3:02 pm
LWSSONHWSSONLWSS wrote:
October 31st, 2024, 9:47 am
Oh. Sorry.
But can you please keep looking for possible period-106 glider guns?
If you just want any p106 gun, the smallest (according to Catagolue) is this:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH guntrue_106 costs 3266 cells.
#C period 106 fullperiod 106 bbox 71 by 46
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 71, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
46.A$46.3A$49.A6.2A$48.2A5.A.A$48.4B3.A$42.2A6.3B.2A$41.BA.AB3.4B$
41.2B2AB2.2A4B2A$39.2AB.5B2A3BA.A$25.2A3.2A6.A.AB3.8B.A$26.A2.A.A
6.A5.8B3.3A$25.A3.A2.2A.2A.A5.7B6.A$19.A5.4A.A.A.2A.A6.8B$5.2A10.
3A8.A.2A8.5B3A3B$6.A9.A8.2A.4B7.5BA3BA2B19.B$6.A.AB6.2A7.A.2B.2B7.
5BA3BAB19.2A$7.2AB.7B4.2A.A.4B6.5B2A5B2AB16.ABA$9.7B4.A2.A.2A2B2AB
5.4BA4BA4BAB14.3BA$9.9B2.2A.A.B.2B2A2B4.4BA3BABA3BA2B12.4B$10.2BA
5B5.A2.7B5.3BA4BAB2ABA3B10.4B$4.B5.2A2BA3B5.2A2.7B4.4B3A5B2.4B8.4B
$3.3B3.2B2AB2A2B9.2B3A3B2.11B5.4B6.4B$2.5B2.3BABA5B8.A2B2A7B.3B.5B
4.4B4.4B$.BA10B2A6B7.4B2AB3A2B8.2A5.4B2.4B$BAB2A8B3A5B2.4BA10BAB8.
A7.8B5.2A$4B2A2BABA2B3A6B.4BA4B3A3BAB9.3A5.7B5.A$2A3BABA2BA2BABA
17BA5BA2B9.A6.7B.BA.A$.B5A5BA2BA12BA2BA5B5AB13.9B.B2A$2.2BA5BA17BA
BA2BA2BABA3B2A9.2B.6BA4B$4.BA3B3A4BA4B.6B3A2BABA2B2A4B8.2A9B2A2B$
4.BA10BA4B2.5B3A8B2ABAB8.2A8B2A3B$4.2B3AB2A4B7.6B2A10BAB10.2B2.10B
$4.7B2A2BA8.5BABA3B2.5B16.9B.2B$5.2B2.3B3A2B9.2B2AB2A2B3.3B17.11B
2A$10.7B2.2A5.3BA2B2A5.B18.4B2A3B.B2A$11.7B2.A5.5BA2B24.4B2A4B.B$
11.2B2A2B.B.A.2A2.9B23.7B$12.B2A2B2A.A2.A4.7B22.A.5B$13.4B.A.2A4.
7B.B2A19.A.A3.4B$12.2B.2B.A7.2A6.BA.A18.2A6.2A$12.4B.2A8.A9.A26.A$
12.2A.A8.3A10.2A26.3A$8.2A.A.A.4A5.A42.A$8.A.2A2.A3.A$12.A.A2.A$
12.2A3.2A! 
In terms of creating a gun from the honey farm hassler, no known p53 or p106 oscillators have enough clearance to release the glider. Here is one that is one lane of clearance from working:

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x = 104, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
21b2o3b2o$22bo2bobo$21bo3bo2b2o13bo$15bo5b4obobo2bo11b3o$b2o10b3o8bob
2o2b2o14bo$2bo9bo8b2o22b2o10b2o$2bobo7b2o7bo35bo$3b2o13b2obo33bobo$16b
o2bob2o2b2o28b2o$16b2obo5b2o45b2o3b2o$19bo52bobo2bo$19b2o5bo43b2o2bo3b
o$25bobo18b2o20bo2bobob4o5bo$25bobo6b2o32b2o2b2obo8b3o10b2o$26bo10b3o
9bo27b2o8bo9bo$10bo26bo6b5o29bo7b2o7bobo$9b3o26bo4b2o2bo30bob2o13b2o$
8bo3bo28b2o2bo27b2o2b2obo2bo$8b2ob2o10b2ob2o14b2obo27b2o5bob2o$23bo3b
o12bo3bo28b2o5bo$24b3o14b3o29b2o4b2o7b3o2bo$25bo16bo10bo17b2obo13b2ob
obo$9bo42b3o11b2o2bo3bo16bo$2o6bobo40bo3bo13b3o18b2o9bo$8bobo39bob2o10b
2ob2o3bo17b3o4b2o$9bo5b2o33bo2b2o9b2obo3bo15b2o4bobob2o4bo$16bo31bo2b
2o4bo4b3obo2bo17b4obo2b2ob2o$9b2o5bob2o27b5o6bo2bobo2b4obob3o12b3obob
4o2bobo$9b2o2b2obo2bo26bo9b3o5b2ob2o2bob4o17bo2bob3o$14bob2o13b2o27bo
4b2obobo4b2o15bo3bob2o$14bo7b2o7bobo14b2o15b2o4b3o17bo3b2ob2o$13b2o8b
o9bo28bo9b2o18b3o$4b2o2b2obo8b3o10b2o37bo16bo3bo2b2o$4bo2bobob4o5bo49b
obob2o13bob2o$6b2o2bo3bo24b2o29bo2b3o7b2o4b2o$8bobo2bo24bobo42bo5b2o$
8b2o3b2o23bo41b2obo5b2o$37b2o10b2o6b2o21bo2bob2o2b2o$49bo7bo9b2o13b2o
bo$50b3o5b3o5bobo7b2o7bo$52bo7bo5bo9bo8b2o$65b2o10b3o8bob2o2b2o$79bo5b
4obobo2bo$85bo3bo2b2o$86bo2bobo$85b2o3b2o!
Thanks P1GG!

EDIT by dvgrn: Have sent a private message to LWSSONHWSSONLWSS to remind them not to do this kind of long quote with a one-line response -- this is exactly what the "like" (heart) button is supposed to be used for.

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x=7, y=16, rule=B3/S23
4o3b$o3bo2b$o6b$bo2bo2b$7b$bo4bo$o6b$o5bo$6ob$7b$7b$7b$4o3b$o3bo2b$o6b$bo2bo2b!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by LWSSONHWSSONLWSS » November 5th, 2024, 10:27 am

Can you please make a p100 and a p102 glider gun?

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x=7, y=16, rule=B3/S23
4o3b$o3bo2b$o6b$bo2bo2b$7b$bo4bo$o6b$o5bo$6ob$7b$7b$7b$4o3b$o3bo2b$o6b$bo2bo2b!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » November 5th, 2024, 10:47 am

LWSSONHWSSONLWSS wrote:
November 5th, 2024, 10:27 am
Can you please make a p100 and a p102 glider gun?
http://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/gun_102/b3s23

Change the number to whatever you want. All numbers from 14 to 999 are in the database, as well as all 4-digit primes. 4-digit non-primes may or may not be included depending on the number.
User:HotdogPi/My discoveries

Periods discovered:

All evens up to 128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by LWSSONHWSSONLWSS » November 7th, 2024, 10:46 am

OK then can you please look for guns for periods over 999?

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x=7, y=16, rule=B3/S23
4o3b$o3bo2b$o6b$bo2bo2b$7b$bo4bo$o6b$o5bo$6ob$7b$7b$7b$4o3b$o3bo2b$o6b$bo2bo2b!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by dvgrn » November 7th, 2024, 11:04 am

LWSSONHWSSONLWSS wrote:
November 7th, 2024, 10:46 am
OK then can you please look for guns for periods over 999?
That request is far too vague.

Guns can already be constructed for any period anyone might want -- including guns automatically constructed via a script. If you don't give specifics about what you want these guns for, there's no reason why anyone would do what you ask.

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » November 7th, 2024, 6:47 pm

p264 pi shuttle/gun:

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x = 28, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6b2obo7b2o$10bo5bo2bo$7bo11bo$8bob2o7bo$10b2o4b2obo$16b2o3$17b2o
$17b2o6$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o6bobo$10bobo$10b3o5$11bo$10bo$10b3o2$24b2o$24b
obo$26bo$26b2o6$9b2o$8bo2bo$11bo$11bo$8b2obo4b3o$8b2o5bo$15bo3bo$15bo
2bobo$9b2o6bobo2bo$9b2o7bo3bo$22bo$19b3o!
At 1484 cells, this is just barely behind the period-tripled p88 at 1428 cells, but could be reduced by a p3 eater (I didn't find any that fit.)

EDIT: 4-barreled p160 from the HDP collection; the supports might be reducible:

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x = 86, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
42b2o11b2o9bo$43bo2bo8b2o9bo$40b3o3b3o$39bo3b3o3bo$39b2obo3b3o5bo7b2o
$43b2obo6bobo$38bob2obobo8bo$38b2ob2o2$66bo17b2o$65bobo16bo$32b2o31bo
bo5b2o7bobo$32bobo15b3o12b2o6b2o7b2o$33b2o43b2o$29b2o7b2o6b2o12b3o15b
obo$28bobo7b2o5bobo31b2o$28bo16bobo$27b2o17bo2$70b2ob2o$58bo8bobob2ob
o$57bobo6bob2o$32bo16b2o7bo5b3o3bob2o$32b3o28bo3b3o3bo$35bo28b3o3b3o$
34b2o10bo9b2o8bo2bo$46bo9b2o11b2o2$39b3o$32bob2obo4bo$32bo3bobo3bo$32b
o4bo4bo$33b2o5b2o$35bo3bo$35bo3bo12bobo$36b3o14b2o$53bo$15b2o11b2o9bo
$16bo2bo8b2o9bo10b2o$13b3o3b3o28bo$12bo3b3o3bo28b3o$12b2obo3b3o5bo7b2o
16bo$16b2obo6bobo$11bob2obobo8bo$11b2ob2o2$39bo17b2o$38bobo16bo$5b2o31b
obo5b2o7bobo$5bobo15b3o12b2o6b2o7b2o$6b2o43b2o19bo$2b2o7b2o6b2o12b3o15b
obo16bobo$bobo7b2o5bobo31b2o17b2o$bo16bobo$2o17bo2$43b2ob2o$31bo8bobo
b2obo$30bobo6bob2o$22b2o7bo5b3o3bob2o$36bo3b3o3bo$37b3o3b3o$19bo9b2o8b
o2bo$19bo9b2o11b2o!
It's OK to abbreviate my username to "P1GG," but never, never, call me "pig."

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 8th, 2024, 8:22 am

P35 gun partial by P1GG and reduced by iNoMed on the Discord:

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x = 30, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
6b2o6b2o$6bo8bo$7b3o2bobo$8b2o$8b4o2bo$4b2o4bobobo2b2o$3bo3bo5bo2bobo$
3bo10b4o$2obobo2bo6b2o$o2bob2ob3o$2bobo2bo3bo$3bo3b2ob2o7bo$8bobo7bobo
$7bo2bo7bobo$5bo2b2o9bo$5b2obo$6bobo2bo$6bobobobo$5b2obo2bo$2o2bo3bo8b
2o6b2o$2ob3o2b2o6bob2o6bo$10bo5bo3bo5bob2o$9b3o4bo3bo2b2obo2bo$10bo5bo
3bo3bob2o$2ob3o2b2o7b3o4bo$2o2bo3bo4b3o7b2o$5b2obo$7bo$4bobo$4b2o$22bo
$23bo$21b3o!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Tawal » November 11th, 2024, 3:58 pm

Using this NW14T188_SE8T60 :
Tawal wrote:
November 11th, 2024, 2:34 pm

Not sure this NW14T188_SE8T60 was reported :

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x = 47, y = 61, rule = LifeHistory
D3.D.D3.D3.D6.D2.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$2D2.D.D3.D2.2D5.2D4.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D$D
.D.D.D3.D3.D4.D.D4.D5.D3.D3.D.D3.D$D2.2D.D.D.D3.D3.D2.D4.D5.D4.3D3.3D
$D3.D.D.D.D3.D3.5D3.D5.D3.D3.D.D3.D$D3.D.2D.2D3.D6.D4.D5.D3.D3.D.D3.D
$D3.D.D3.D2.3D5.D4.D4.3D3.3D3.3D4$.3D2.5D2.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D$D3.D.D5.D3.
D3.D3.D5.D3.D$D5.D5.D3.D3.D3.D5.D2.2D$.3D2.3D4.3D4.D3.4D2.D.D.D$4.D.D
5.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.2D2.D$D3.D.D5.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D$.3D2.5D2.3D4.D4.3D3.
3D5$6.4B$7.4B$8.4B$9.4B$10.4B$11.4B$12.4B$13.4B$14.4B16.2A$13.6B7.2A
6.A$8.B.10B5.B2A2B.BA.A$7.2AB.B2A7B5.4B.B2A$7.2A3B2A8B3.7B$8.2B.12B.
8B$11.19B$12.19B$12.19B$13.19B$11.20B$11.2BC17B$10.3BCBC4B.11B$11.2B
3C4B2.13B$10.5BC4B3.12B$9.10B5.11B$8.4B10.13B$8.3B11.2A2.9B$6.4B13.A
3.8B$6.2A12.3A4.8B$7.A12.A6.6B.B2A$4.3A21.4B2.BA.A$4.A24.4B4.A$30.4B
3.2A$31.4B$32.4B$33.4B$34.4B$35.4B$36.4B$37.4B$38.4B!
I made a p307 Glider Gun (307 is prime):

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x = 74, y = 55, rule = LifeHistory
3.A27.A11.2A$3.3A24.A.A9.B2AB$6.A15.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$5.2A14.A.A2.A2.2A.
2A9.B.B$2A4.3B12.A.A3.A.A11.5B$.A4.4B12.A.4A2.A.2A6.6B$.A.AB2.4B13.A
3.A.A.2A4.8B$2.2AB.6B6.A4.A3.A.A3.12B$4.8B4.3A3.A3.A.A5.13B$4.8B3.A6.
2A3.A.B3.15B$4.9B2.2A11.2B3.15B$4.13B10.3B3.16B$4.11B5.10B3.16B$4.12B
3.4BE5B4.2B2A13B$4.13B2.4B3E2B5.2B2A14B$7.11B.4BEBE3B4.13B3.B2A$8.17B
E2B5.12B4.A2.A$8.20B7.B3.6B5.2A.A$7.19B14.6B7.A$8.19B11.9B6.2A$8.19B
11.2A4.4B$9.19B11.A5.4B$7.8B.12B.2B5.3A7.4B$7.7B3.8B2A3B2A4.A10.4B$5.
2AB.4B5.7B2AB.B2A16.4B16.2A$4.A.AB.2B2AB5.10B.B16.6B7.2A6.A$4.A6.2A7.
6B16.B.10B5.B2A2B.BA.A$3.2A16.4B16.2AB.B2A7B5.4B.B2A$22.4B10.A4.2A3B
2A8B3.7B$23.4B7.3A5.2B.12B.8B$24.4B5.A11.19B$25.4B4.2A11.19B$18.2A6.
9B11.19B$19.A7.6B14.19B$19.A.2A5.6B3.B7.20B$20.A2.A4.12B5.2BE17B$21.
2AB3.13B4.3BEBE4B.11B$22.14B2A2B5.2B3E4B2.13B$23.13B2A2B4.5BE4B3.12B$
24.16B3.10B5.11B$24.16B3.3B10.13B$25.15B3.2B11.2A2.9B$25.15B3.B.A3.2A
6.A3.8B$26.13B5.A.A3.A3.3A4.8B$28.12B3.A.A3.A4.A6.6B.B2A$27.8B4.2A.A.
A3.A13.4B2.BA.A$27.6B6.2A.A2.4A.A12.4B4.A$27.5B11.A.A3.A.A12.4B3.2A$
27.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A13.4B$28.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A15.4B$27.B2AB9.A.A24.4B$
28.2A11.A26.4B$69.4B$70.4B$71.3B!
It has 73x52 = 3796 cells, pop = 220

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x = 73, y = 52, rule = Life
3bo27bo11b2o$3b3o24bobo10b2o$6bo15bo3b2o2bobo$5b2o14bobo2bo2b2ob2o$2o
19bobo3bobo$bo20bob4o2bob2o$bobo20bo3bobob2o$2b2o14bo4bo3bobo$16b3o3bo
3bobo$15bo6b2o3bo$15b2o3$35b2o$35b2o$50b2o$13bo35bo2bo$14bo35b2obo$12b
3o38bo$53b2o$38b2o$39bo$36b3o$25b2o3b2o4bo$5b2o18b2o3b2o36b2o$4bobo4b
2o47b2o6bo$4bo6b2o47b2o4bobo$3b2o36b2o3b2o18b2o$36bo4b2o3b2o$34b3o$33b
o$33b2o$18b2o$19bo38b3o$19bob2o35bo$20bo2bo35bo$21b2o$36b2o$36b2o3$56b
2o$45bo3b2o6bo$44bobo3bo3b3o$43bobo3bo4bo14b2o$39b2obobo3bo20bobo$39b
2obo2b4obo20bo$43bobo3bobo19b2o$39b2ob2o2bo2bobo$40bobo2b2o3bo18bo$28b
2o10bobo27bo$28b2o11bo26b3o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by confocaloid » November 11th, 2024, 4:30 pm

It turns out that gun_307 / guntrue_307 (on Catagolue) are already (a trivial modification of) this 73-by-52 glider gun, and recent logs do not seem to mention gun_307/guntrue_307. Hence my guess is that both the gun and the component must be already known.
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Using this NW14T188_SE8T60 :
Tawal wrote:
November 11th, 2024, 2:34 pm

Not sure this NW14T188_SE8T60 was reported :

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x = 47, y = 61, rule = LifeHistory
[...]
I made a p307 Glider Gun (307 is prime):

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x = 74, y = 55, rule = LifeHistory
[...]
It has 73x52 = 3796 cells, pop = 220

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x = 73, y = 52, rule = Life
3bo27bo11b2o$3b3o24bobo10b2o$6bo15bo3b2o2bobo$5b2o14bobo2bo2b2ob2o$2o
19bobo3bobo$bo20bob4o2bob2o$bobo20bo3bobob2o$2b2o14bo4bo3bobo$16b3o3bo
3bobo$15bo6b2o3bo$15b2o3$35b2o$35b2o$50b2o$13bo35bo2bo$14bo35b2obo$12b
3o38bo$53b2o$38b2o$39bo$36b3o$25b2o3b2o4bo$5b2o18b2o3b2o36b2o$4bobo4b
2o47b2o6bo$4bo6b2o47b2o4bobo$3b2o36b2o3b2o18b2o$36bo4b2o3b2o$34b3o$33b
o$33b2o$18b2o$19bo38b3o$19bob2o35bo$20bo2bo35bo$21b2o$36b2o$36b2o3$56b
2o$45bo3b2o6bo$44bobo3bo3b3o$43bobo3bo4bo14b2o$39b2obobo3bo20bobo$39b
2obo2b4obo20bo$43bobo3bobo19b2o$39b2ob2o2bo2bobo$40bobo2b2o3bo18bo$28b
2o10bobo27bo$28b2o11bo26b3o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Vort » November 11th, 2024, 4:37 pm

confocaloid wrote:
November 11th, 2024, 4:30 pm
Hence my guess is that both the gun and the component must be already known.
I uploaded family of ~15 guns month ago.

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » November 13th, 2024, 1:16 pm

p260 gun, oscillator by me (with MW volcanoes replacing the toaster+eater), gun version by iNoMed:

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x = 75, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4bo$o4b3o6b2o$3o4bo8bo$3bo9bo$2b2o6b2o2b2o$7b7o6b2o$7b4ob2o6bo34b
2o$3b2o3b2ob2o5bobo34bo$3b2o8bo4b2o7bo25bobo5b2o$27b3o23b2o7bo$7bob2o
19bo28b3o$7bob2o18b2o27bo3b3o$9bo2bo44bob3o2bo$17b2o38bobobobo$12bobo
bo2bo36b2obo$2b2o10bobo39bo2bob2o$2bo2bo10bo3bo26b2o7b2obo$3b3o9b2o2b
2o25bo2bo6b2o$8bo8b2o27bo2bo6bo2bo$5b4o37bo2bo6b2ob3o$5bo41b2o8bo4bo$
6bo50bob3o$5b2o8b2o41b2o8b2o$13b3obo15bo8b2o24bo$12bo4bo13b2o8bobo25b
o$13b3ob2o13b2o7bo24b4o$15bo2bo22bobo22bo$17b2o23b2o25b3o$15bob2o43b2o
5bo2bo$12b2obo2bo46b2o4b2o$15bob2o41b2obo$11bobobobo42b2o3bob2o$10bo2b
3obo42b2obo3b2o$10b3o3bo27b2o19bob2o$13b3o28bo17b2o$12bo7b2o23b3o17b2o
$12b2o5bobo25bo7b2o13b2o$19bo34bobo13b2o$18b2o34bo$53b2o$59b2o10b2o$61b
o9bo$58bo8bo4b3o$59b2o6b3o4bo$70bo$69b2o!
This beats the existing gun_260 by 160 cells (3525 vs 3685).

EDIT: Reduction to 3124 cells:

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x = 71, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
14bo2bo6bo$12b6o4b3o$8b2obo9bo$9bob2o2b5o2bo$8bo2bo2bo5b3o28b2o$5bo2b
obo2bob4o32bo$4bobobob5obob4obo25bobo5b2o$5bo2bo12bob3o23b2o7bo$8bob4o
4b3o5bo28b3o$2b2o3b2obo2bo4bo6b2o27bo3b3o$bo2bobo2bo4b4o35bob3o2bo$b2o
bob2o45bobobobo$2bobo47b2obo$2bobo47bo2bob2o$b2ob2o5b2obo37b2obo$10b2o
2b3o25bo2bo6b2o$b2ob2o3bo5bo25b2o2b2o5bo2bo$2bob2o7b2o27bo2bo6b2ob3o$
o52bo4bo$2o10bo40bob3o$10b2o25b3o14b2o8b2o$36bo2bo24bo$27bo7bo3bo25bo
$26bo8bo26b4o$26b3o6bo3bo22bo$36bo2bo24b4o$37b3o19b2o7bo$58bo8b2o$54b
ob2o3bobo$19b5o30bo3b2o$18bo5bo29bob3o2b2o3bo$16b3o5b3o13b2o17bo3b2ob
o$15bo11bo12bo21bo$15bob3obob4o14b3o16b2o$16bo3b3o20bo7b2o13b2o$18bo5b
2obo22bobo13b2o$17b2obobobob2o22bo$18bobo2bo25b2o$18bo2b2o33bo10b2o$17b
2o36b2o10bo$55b2o6bo4b3o$55bo7b3o4bo$66bo$65b2o!
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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » November 20th, 2024, 1:40 pm

Timelord Missionary wrote:
November 20th, 2024, 1:51 am
Edit: I got it! I still haven't found out how to extract a glider from it tho.

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snip
44P49 can release the glider:

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x = 118, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
99b2o$100bo$55b2o43bob2ob2obo$56bo37bo6bobobob2o$28bo27bob2ob2obo8bo19b
obo6bo$26b3o21bo6bobobob2o6b3o15b2o3bo$25bo23bobo6bo11bo9b2o7b2o8bo$25b
2o18b2o3bo19b2o8b2o16bob2o$36b2o7b2o8bo38b3o2b3o3bo$22b2o12b2o16bob2o
5b2o31bo3bo5bo3bo$22bobo25b3o2b3o5b3o9b2o16bo11b3obobo$23b2o27bo3bo6b
4o7b3o16b3o10bo2bobo$49bo16b2o5b4o11b3o14bo4bo$29bo4bo14b3o11b4o5b2o16b
o$28bobo2bo10b3o16b3o7b4o6bo3bo27b2o$28bobob3o11bo16b2o9b3o5b3o2b3o25b
obo$29bo3bo5bo3bo31b2o5b2obo16b2o12b2o$34bo3b3o2b3o38bo8b2o7b2o$38b2o
bo16b2o29bo3b2o18b2o$40bo8b2o7b2o21bo6bobo23bo$45bo3b2o24b2obobobo6bo
21b3o$31b2o4bo6bobo28bob2ob2obo27bo$31bo2bobobo6bo37bo$33b2ob2obo43b2o
$34bo4bo22bo$33bo2b3o21b2o$34b3o2b3o19b2o$18b2o18bo2bo$8bobo7b2o16b3o
$7bo27bo$7bo2bo24b2o$8bo5bo13bo$3b2o4bo3b3o5b3ob3o43b2o3b2o$3b2o4b4o3b
o5bo3b4o4b2o23b2o3b2ob2obo2bo2bo$11b3ob3o5b3o3bo4b2o8bo14bobo3bobo3bo
bo4bo$10bo13bo5bo13bo12b2o2b4o2bob2obob4obo3b2o$2b2o24bo2bo12b4o8bo2b
2o3bobobobobobo4bo3bo$3bo27bo14bobo7bobo2bo4bo5bob4o2b2obo$3o16b2o7bo
bo9b3o3bobo6b2ob4o3b2o4b2o2bob2obobo$o18b2o11bo24bo3bob2obo2bo4bobobo
$31bobo10bo11b2o3bo2b2o3bob2o6bobo$30bo6b2o5bo12bo3bob2obo2bo4bobobo$
31bo5b2o5bo4b2o4b2ob4o3b2o4b2o2bob2obobo$32bo16b2o5bobo2bo4bo5bob4o2b
2obo$56bo2b2o3bobobobobobo4bo3bo$52b2o3b2o2b4o2bob2obob4obo3b2o$50bo2b
o5bobo3bobo3bobo4bo$50b3o6b2o3b2ob2obo2bo2bo$71b2o3b2o$48b3o$47bo2bo$
48b2o!
I'm still slightly annoyed that I can't make any of the existing p7s work. I'm confident that a bespoke one can be found though. (Then again, I don't know anything about computerized oscillator searches.)
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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Timelord Missionary » November 23rd, 2024, 2:44 am

AlbertArmStain wrote:
November 1st, 2024, 5:37 pm

This would be a further reduction, that is if the P3 wasn't interfering with the P4, and the P4 had better clearance:

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x = 26, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
10b2o10b3o$10bo13bo$bo5b2obo2bo9bo$b3o4bob2ob3o$4bo2bo2bo$3bobo2b2o2b
2o$3bob3o2b3o$4b2ob4obo$16bo$5b2o8bobo$5b2o8bobo$16bo$3b6o8bo$2bo2bo3b
o7b2o$2b2o2b3o7bo$7bo9b2o$7b2o$7b2o$7b2o$2b2o3b3o2b3o$2bo4b3o2bobo$3b
o3b3o2b3o$3o4b2o$o6b2o$7b2o15b2o$7bo9b2o5bo$2b2o2b3o8b2o2b2obo$2bo2bo
3bo12bob2o$3b6o4b2o5bobo$13b3o3bob2o$5b2o6b2obo2bo$5b2o8bobobo$14bo2b
ob2o$15b2o!
This solves one of your problems, but that's probably moot, as the other ones persist:

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x = 51, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
6$22b2o10b3o$22bo13bo$19b2obo2bo9bo$20bob2ob3o$17b3o2bo$17bo2b2o2b2o$
14b2obobo2b3o$15bobob4obo$13bobobo10bo$13b2o2bo9bobo$17b2o8bobo$28bo$
15b6o8bo$14bo2bo3bo7b2o$14b2o2b3o7bo$19bo9b2o$19b2o$19b2o$19b2o$14b2o
3b3o2b3o$14bo4b3o2bobo$15bo3b3o2b3o$12b3o4b2o$12bo6b2o$19b2o15b2o$19b
o9b2o5bo$14b2o2b3o8b2o2b2obo$14bo2bo3bo12bob2o$15b6o4b2o5bobo$25b3o3b
ob2o$17b2o6b2obo2bo$17b2o8bobobo$26bo2bob2o$27b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » November 23rd, 2024, 3:08 am

Timelord Missionary wrote:
November 23rd, 2024, 2:44 am
This solves one of your problems, but that's probably moot, as the other ones persist:
Unfortunately, the biggest problem is that the p4 is not compatible with this reaction. It interacts with pre-traffic light 4 generations too early:

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x = 26, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
10b2o10bo$10bo11b2o$7b2obo2bo7bobo$8bob2ob3o$5b3o2bo$5bo2b2o2b2o$2b2ob
obo2b3o$3bobob4obo$bobobo$b2o2bo10b2o$5b2o8b2o2$3b6o$2bo6bo$2b2o2b3o8b
3o$17bo$6bo11b2o$6bo2bo$6bo$2b2o2bo5b3o$2bo3bo3bob3o$3bo2bo6bo$3o3bo$o
5bo2bo$6bo17b2o$17b2o5bo$2b2o2b3o8b2o2b2obo$2bo6bo12bob2o$3b6o4bobo4bo
bo$12bo6bob2o$5b2o6bo2bo2bo$5b2o6bobobobo$14bo2bob2o$15b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Jormungant » November 26th, 2024, 5:29 pm

A very unoriginal p287 gun, nothing to see here:

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x = 79, y = 95, rule = LifeHistory
$28.2B$27.5B$26.7B$25.8B$25.9B$25.10B$26.8BA$25.8BABA$23.10BABA$13.B
2.2B2.14BAB$12.11BD11B$8.B2.12BDBD9B$7.2AB.B2A9B3D7B$7.2A3B2A11BD7B$
8.B.19B2.B$10.7B.4B$9.7B.4B$8.12B$8.11B$5.3B.9B$5.12B$4.2A11B.2B$4.2A
13B2A$5.B.10B.B2A$7.10B2.B$8.9B$8.10B$8.11B$9.11B$8.13B$7.15B$4.19B$
3.2A19B$3.2A15B.4B$4.17B.4B$8.19B$9.19B$9.20B$10.20B$7.24B$7.20B.4B
15.E$6.20B3.4B5.2E5.3E$5.22B3.4B3.B2CB3.E$5.24B2.4B2.3B4.CE$6.21BA8B
2.B2.5B$4.10B.13BC15B$4.2A4.2B2.7B.4BCAC14BCE$5.A4.B4.B.3B2.4B3D8B3D
3BCE$2.3A4.2A3.2A2B4.4BD10BDBD2B.B$2.A6.A4.A2.AB4.14BDBD2B$7.A.A5.3A
12.4B.6B$7.2A22.10B$15.3A14.10B21.A$14.A2.A15.9B10.A9.A.A$14.2A17.9B
8.3A10.A$33.9B7.A$33.10B6.2A10.5A$31.13B2.5B10.A4.A$28.2B.18B14.BAB.A
$27.2A19B2A13.B2A.A$27.2AB.17B2A11.A4B.A.2A$28.B.17B.B11.ABAB3.A.2A$
31.16B13.A2BA2.2A$32.19B7.3B2A4.A$31.4B2.14B2.2B.5B6.A.A$30.4B3.24B5.
2A.3A$29.4B3.25B6.B4.A$29.3B4.25B4.B2AB3A$29.2B5.16B2A9B2.B2A.A$29.B
7.14BA2BA11B$35.9B3D4BA2BA11B$33.A.2AB.5B.D6B2A11B$31.3AB2AB.4B3D.17B
$30.A4.B3.5B4.16B$31.3A.2A4.B6.15B$33.A.A4.3B6.14B$33.A.A3.B2AB7.14B$
34.A5.2A9.12B$52.8B$54.4B$54.4B$50.2A.3B$50.A.2B2AB$51.A.BA.A$48.3A4.
A$48.A2.4A$51.A$52.A$51.2A!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 26th, 2024, 8:43 pm

Jormungant wrote:
November 26th, 2024, 5:29 pm
A very unoriginal p287 gun, nothing to see here:

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x = 79, y = 95, rule = LifeHistory
$28.2B$27.5B$26.7B$25.8B$25.9B$25.10B$26.8BA$25.8BABA$23.10BABA$13.B
2.2B2.14BAB$12.11BD11B$8.B2.12BDBD9B$7.2AB.B2A9B3D7B$7.2A3B2A11BD7B$
8.B.19B2.B$10.7B.4B$9.7B.4B$8.12B$8.11B$5.3B.9B$5.12B$4.2A11B.2B$4.2A
13B2A$5.B.10B.B2A$7.10B2.B$8.9B$8.10B$8.11B$9.11B$8.13B$7.15B$4.19B$
3.2A19B$3.2A15B.4B$4.17B.4B$8.19B$9.19B$9.20B$10.20B$7.24B$7.20B.4B
15.E$6.20B3.4B5.2E5.3E$5.22B3.4B3.B2CB3.E$5.24B2.4B2.3B4.CE$6.21BA8B
2.B2.5B$4.10B.13BC15B$4.2A4.2B2.7B.4BCAC14BCE$5.A4.B4.B.3B2.4B3D8B3D
3BCE$2.3A4.2A3.2A2B4.4BD10BDBD2B.B$2.A6.A4.A2.AB4.14BDBD2B$7.A.A5.3A
12.4B.6B$7.2A22.10B$15.3A14.10B21.A$14.A2.A15.9B10.A9.A.A$14.2A17.9B
8.3A10.A$33.9B7.A$33.10B6.2A10.5A$31.13B2.5B10.A4.A$28.2B.18B14.BAB.A
$27.2A19B2A13.B2A.A$27.2AB.17B2A11.A4B.A.2A$28.B.17B.B11.ABAB3.A.2A$
31.16B13.A2BA2.2A$32.19B7.3B2A4.A$31.4B2.14B2.2B.5B6.A.A$30.4B3.24B5.
2A.3A$29.4B3.25B6.B4.A$29.3B4.25B4.B2AB3A$29.2B5.16B2A9B2.B2A.A$29.B
7.14BA2BA11B$35.9B3D4BA2BA11B$33.A.2AB.5B.D6B2A11B$31.3AB2AB.4B3D.17B
$30.A4.B3.5B4.16B$31.3A.2A4.B6.15B$33.A.A4.3B6.14B$33.A.A3.B2AB7.14B$
34.A5.2A9.12B$52.8B$54.4B$54.4B$50.2A.3B$50.A.2B2AB$51.A.BA.A$48.3A4.
A$48.A2.4A$51.A$52.A$51.2A!
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EDIT: P287 glider gun / herschel factory:

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x = 83, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
39b2o$40bo14b2o$40bobo12b2o9b2o$41b2o23b2o2$75b2o$75b2o$37bob2o$37b2ob
o2$67b3o5b2o$75b2o$35b2o2b2o$35bo2bobo$36bobo$35b2ob2o20bo$58b2o$59b2o
4b2o$65b2o3$76b3o$76bo$75b3o2$28b2o$28b2o2$15bo$14bobo$14bobo$12b3ob2o
62b2o$11bo67bo2bo$12b3ob2o62b2o$14bob2o2$40b2o4b2o$18b3o19b2o4b2o$11b
2o4bo3bo$11b2o3bo5bo$16bo5bo$16bo24b2o$18bo4bo17b2o2b2o$25bo19bobo$26b
o20bo$20bo4bo21b2o$3b2o18bo4b2o$4bo23b2o2b2o$4bob2o24bobo$ob2obobo26bo
$2obo10bo19b2o$3bo9b3o$3bob2o5b2ob2o$4bobo4bobo2bo$5bo4b2ob4o$10bo2bob
o$11b2o2$26b2o$25bo2bo2b2o$11b3o11bobo4bo2bo$26bo5bobobo$29b2obo2bo$
29bo2bo$20b2obo2bo4bo$20b2ob8o2$20b2ob2o2b2o$21bobo3b2o$21bobo$22bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by C_R_116 » December 1st, 2024, 3:37 am

p160 HF shuttle (the gliders are very lucky to escape):

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x = 152, y = 118, rule = B3/S23
73b2o$73b3o$74b2o$69bo8b2o$69b3o6b2o$69bo$69bo3bo$56b3o10bo3bo$56b3o
12bo$56b3o$53b3o$22b2o29b3o15bo$22bob2o27b3o13bo3bo$69bo3bo$29bo43bo$
23bo5bo5bo27b2o6b3o$23bobo3bo4b2o8bo18b2o8bo$34b2o7bobo21b2o$27bo6bo8b
obo21b3o$24bo16b3ob2o21b2o$18b2o4bo3bo11bo$18b3o3b2o2bo12b3ob2o30b2o$
21b5o3bo13bob2o30b2o$22b2o4bo$23b5o41bo$25b2o24b3o13b5o3b2o$3b2o19b2o
25bo2bo11b3ob2o2b3o$3b2o19b2o25bo3bo11bo2b2o2b2o4b2o4b5o$24b2o29bo12b
3o18bo$51bo3bo13bo8bo3bo2bo3bo$b2o43b2o3bo2bo23bo$3o45bo2b3o23b5o4b2o
4b2o$2o4b2o4b5o23b3o2bo45b3o$15bo23bo2bo3b2o43b2o$4bo3bo2bo3bo8bo13bo
3bo$4bo18b3o12bo29b2o$3b5o4b2o4b2o2b2o2bo11bo3bo25b2o19b2o$17b3o2b2ob
3o11bo2bo25b2o19b2o$17b2o3b5o13b3o24b2o$24bo41b5o$65bo4b2o$15b2o30b2ob
o13bo3b5o$15b2o30b2ob3o12bo2b2o3b3o$53bo11bo3bo4b2o$24b2o21b2ob3o16bo$
24b3o21bobo8bo6bo$25b2o21bobo7b2o$20bo8b2o18bo8b2o4bo3bobo$20b3o6b2o
27bo5bo5bo$20bo43bo21bo$20bo3bo59b3o4bo$20bo3bo13b3o27b2obo11bo5b3o$
22bo15b3o18b2o9b2o11b2o3bo$38b3o18b2o27b2o$35b3o21b2o32bo37b2o$22bo12b
3o21b3o30bobo36b3o$20bo3bo10b3o15b2o4bobo31bo7b2o29b2o$20bo3bo26bob2o
4bo2bo6b3o27bob2o24bo8b2o$24bo25bo9bobo5bo3bo17bo7bo28b3o6b2o$14b2o6b
3o28bo7bo5bo5bo15bobo9bo25bo$14b2o8bo24b2obo14bo5bo15bo2bo4b2obo26bo3b
o$18b2o29b2o7bo8bo5bo16bobo4b2o15b3o10bo3bo$18b3o36bobo8bo3bo17b3o21b
3o12bo$19b2o37bo10b3o19b2o21b3o$91b2o18b3o$67b2o22b2o18b3o15bo$68bo42b
3o13bo3bo$65b3o59bo3bo$65bo21bo43bo$87bo5bo27b2o6b3o$87bo4b2o8bo18b2o
8bo$92b2o7bobo21b2o$92bo8bobo21b3o$99b3ob2o21b2o$98bo$99b3ob2o30b2o$
101bob2o30b2o$122b3o$122b2obo$117b3o5b2o6b2o$61b2o36b3o15bo5bobo3bob4o
$61b2o35b2o3bo15bo2bo2bo3bob3o4b2o4b5o$97b2o2bobo14b2o2bo6bobo15bo$89b
o8bo5bo13bo2bo3bo10bo3bo2bo3bo$59b2o27bobo8b2o2bo14bo17bo$58b3o24bob2o
2bo11bo14bo4b2o10b5o4b2o4b2o$58b2o4b2o4b5o10b2o4bo14bo11bo2b2obo24b3o$
73bo17bo14bo2b2o8bobo27b2o$62bo3bo2bo3bo10bo3bo2bo13bo5bo8bo$62bo15bob
o6bo2b2o14bobo2b2o$61b5o4b2o4b3obo3bo2bo2bo15bo3b2o35b2o$75b4obo3bobo
5bo15b3o36b2o$75b2o6b2o5b3o$84bob2o$85b3o$73b2o30b2obo$73b2o30b2ob3o$
111bo$82b2o21b2ob3o$82b3o21bobo8bo$83b2o21bobo7b2o$78bo8b2o18bo8b2o4bo
$78b3o6b2o27bo5bo$78bo43bo$78bo3bo$78bo3bo13b3o$80bo15b3o$96b3o$93b3o$
80bo12b3o$78bo3bo10b3o$78bo3bo$82bo$72b2o6b3o$72b2o8bo$76b2o$76b3o$77b
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by confocaloid » December 1st, 2024, 5:15 am

Here is a (mostly but not entirely useless) p630830 glider gun assembled from known components. Can anyone make a smaller (*) one?

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x = 265, y = 251, rule = B3/S23
66b2o$67bo$66bo$66b2o11bo$64b2o11b3o$63bo2b2o8bo$64bobo9b2o$63b2obobo
4bo7b2o$67b2o3bobo6bo$71bo2bo4bobo$60bo11b2o5b2o$60b3o$3bo9bo24b2o16bo
6bo$3b3o5b3o19b2o3bo16bobo4b2o17b2o$6bo3bo22b2o4bo8b2o5bobo23bo$5b2o3b
2o26b2o7bo2bo2b3ob2o23bo$16b2o19bo10b2o2bo28b2o$16b2o19b3o10b3ob2ob2o
19b2o$40bo7b2o3bobob2o19b2ob2o$39b2o7bo2bo18b2o9bobo$46b2o2b3o17b2o4b
4o3bo$45bo2b2o26bo3b3o$2o43bobo2b3o26bo$2o38b2o4bob2o2bo26b2o$40bobobo
bo3b2o$36b2o4bob2ob2o$35bo2bo2b2o4bo$35bobo4bob2o2bo$36bo5bobob2o$23b
3o13b2obo$7b2o13b2o2bobo10bo2bo$7b2o9b2obo2bo4bo6bo4bo$18b2o9bo6b5o$
21bo3bo32bo$22b2obobo10bo18bobo$21b2o4bo2b2o5bobo17bobo$22bo2b2o3bobo
5bo19bo$20bo11bo29b2o$10b2o8bobo9b2o28bobo$11bo9b3o40bo$8b3o11b2o40b2o
$8bo12bob2o$21b3o$11bob2o7bo$11b2obo2$20b2o$20b2o5$81bo$52b2o26bobo$
52b2o5b2o19bobo$8b2obo47b2o18b2ob2o$8bob2o$79b2ob4o$9b5o43b2o20b2obo2b
o$4b2o2bo4bo43b2o26bob2o$4bo2bo2bo52b2ob2o16b2ob2o$5bobob2o52b2ob2o$4b
2obo5bo70b2ob4o$7bo4bobo69b2obo2bo$7b2o2bo2bo75bob2o$12b2o75b2ob2o2$7b
2o23b2o55b2ob4o$8bo23b2o55b2obo2bo$8bobo84bob2o$9b2o83b2ob2o2$94b2ob4o
$54b2o38b2obo2bo$53b2o45bob2o$55bo43b2ob2o2$39b2o58b2ob4o$35bo3b2o22b
2o34b2obo2bo$8b2o24bobo22bo3b2o40bob2o$8b2o23bobo22b2o44b2ob2o$33bo24b
2o$32b2o70b2ob4o$57bo46b2obo2bo$56bobo51bob2o$57bo51b2ob2o$54b3o$54bo
54b2ob4o$109b2obo2bo$115bob2o$114b2ob2o2$114b2ob4o$114b2obo2bo$120bob
2o$119b2ob2o2$119b2ob4o$119b2obo2bo$125bob2o$124b2ob2o2$124b2ob4o$124b
2obo2bo$130bob2o$129b2ob2o2$129b2ob4o$129b2obo2bo$135bob2o$134b2ob2o2$
134b2ob4o$134b2obo2bo$140bob2o$139b2ob2o2$139b2ob4o$139b2obo2bo$145bob
2o$144b2ob2o2$144b2ob4o$144b2obo2bo$150bob2o$149b2ob2o2$149b2ob4o$149b
2obo2bo$155bob2o$154b2ob2o2$154b2ob4o$154b2obo2bo$160bob2o$159b2ob2o2$
159b2ob4o$159b2obo2bo$165bob2o$164b2ob2o2$164b2ob4o$164b2obo2bo$170bob
2o$169b2ob2o2$169b2ob4o$169b2obo2bo$175bob2o$174b2ob2o2$174b2ob4o$174b
2obo2bo$180bob2o$179b2ob2o2$179b2ob4o$179b2obo2bo$185bob2o$184b2ob2o2$
184b2ob4o$184b2obo2bo$190bob2o$189b2ob2o2$189b2ob4o$189b2obo2bo$195bob
2o$194b2ob2o2$194b2ob4o$194b2obo2bo$200bob2o$199b2ob2o2$199b2ob4o$199b
2obo2bo$205bob2o$204b2ob2o2$204b2ob4o$204b2obo2bo$210bob2o$209b2ob2o2$
209b2ob4o$209b2obo2bo$215bob2o$214b2ob2o2$214b2ob4o$214b2obo2bo$220bob
2o$219b2ob2o2$219b2ob4o$219b2obo2bo$225bob2o$224b2ob2o2$224b2ob4o$224b
2obo2bo$230bob2o$229b2ob2o2$229b2ob4o$229b2obo2bo$235bobo$234b2ob3o$
240bo$234b2ob3o$234b2obo2$241b2o$241bo$239bobo$216b2o21b2o4b2o$216bo
27bobo$214bobo27bo$214b2o27b2o$191b2o$192bo66b2o$191bo40b2o25bo$191b2o
8bo29bo2bo22bobo$193bo6bobo29b2o23b2o$191b3o5bobo$190bo8b2o$190b2o68b
2o$221b2o36bobo$221b2o36bo$258b2o2$198b2o61b2o$198b2o62bo$238b2o19b3o$
224b2o13bo19bo$225bo10b3o21b2o$225bobo8bo24bo$226b2o22b2o5b2o2bob2o$
249bo2bo4bobobob2o$245b2o3bobo6bobo$244bobo4bo7bobo$244bo9b2o4bo$242bo
b2o8bo$241bobo11b3o$241bo2b2o11bo$226bo15bobo$227bo13b2o2bo$225b3o16b
2o!
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(*) "smaller" by a metric of your choice. Possibilities include bounding box area, canonical phase population, bounding "diagonal rectangle" area, bounding octagon area, glider synthesis cost, and MCPS.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by dvgrn » December 1st, 2024, 1:55 pm

confocaloid wrote:
December 1st, 2024, 5:15 am
Here is a (mostly but not entirely useless) p630830 glider gun assembled from known components. Can anyone make a smaller one?
Smaller by what metric? I'd expect some kind of p199 LCM mechanism attached to that p317 * 10 device, to have a much smaller bounding box. Maybe smaller population, too, but might have to build one and see.

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Vort » December 1st, 2024, 1:58 pm

confocaloid wrote:
December 1st, 2024, 5:15 am
Here is a (mostly but not entirely useless) p630830 glider gun assembled from known components. Can anyone make a smaller one?

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x = 265, y = 251, rule = B3/S23
66b2o$67bo$66bo$66b2o11bo$64b2o11b3o$63bo2b2o8bo$64bobo9b2o$63b2obobo
4bo7b2o$67b2o3bobo6bo$71bo2bo4bobo$60bo11b2o5b2o$60b3o$3bo9bo24b2o16bo
6bo$3b3o5b3o19b2o3bo16bobo4b2o17b2o$6bo3bo22b2o4bo8b2o5bobo23bo$5b2o3b
2o26b2o7bo2bo2b3ob2o23bo$16b2o19bo10b2o2bo28b2o$16b2o19b3o10b3ob2ob2o
19b2o$40bo7b2o3bobob2o19b2ob2o$39b2o7bo2bo18b2o9bobo$46b2o2b3o17b2o4b
4o3bo$45bo2b2o26bo3b3o$2o43bobo2b3o26bo$2o38b2o4bob2o2bo26b2o$40bobobo
bo3b2o$36b2o4bob2ob2o$35bo2bo2b2o4bo$35bobo4bob2o2bo$36bo5bobob2o$23b
3o13b2obo$7b2o13b2o2bobo10bo2bo$7b2o9b2obo2bo4bo6bo4bo$18b2o9bo6b5o$
21bo3bo32bo$22b2obobo10bo18bobo$21b2o4bo2b2o5bobo17bobo$22bo2b2o3bobo
5bo19bo$20bo11bo29b2o$10b2o8bobo9b2o28bobo$11bo9b3o40bo$8b3o11b2o40b2o
$8bo12bob2o$21b3o$11bob2o7bo$11b2obo2$20b2o$20b2o5$81bo$52b2o26bobo$
52b2o5b2o19bobo$8b2obo47b2o18b2ob2o$8bob2o$79b2ob4o$9b5o43b2o20b2obo2b
o$4b2o2bo4bo43b2o26bob2o$4bo2bo2bo52b2ob2o16b2ob2o$5bobob2o52b2ob2o$4b
2obo5bo70b2ob4o$7bo4bobo69b2obo2bo$7b2o2bo2bo75bob2o$12b2o75b2ob2o2$7b
2o23b2o55b2ob4o$8bo23b2o55b2obo2bo$8bobo84bob2o$9b2o83b2ob2o2$94b2ob4o
$54b2o38b2obo2bo$53b2o45bob2o$55bo43b2ob2o2$39b2o58b2ob4o$35bo3b2o22b
2o34b2obo2bo$8b2o24bobo22bo3b2o40bob2o$8b2o23bobo22b2o44b2ob2o$33bo24b
2o$32b2o70b2ob4o$57bo46b2obo2bo$56bobo51bob2o$57bo51b2ob2o$54b3o$54bo
54b2ob4o$109b2obo2bo$115bob2o$114b2ob2o2$114b2ob4o$114b2obo2bo$120bob
2o$119b2ob2o2$119b2ob4o$119b2obo2bo$125bob2o$124b2ob2o2$124b2ob4o$124b
2obo2bo$130bob2o$129b2ob2o2$129b2ob4o$129b2obo2bo$135bob2o$134b2ob2o2$
134b2ob4o$134b2obo2bo$140bob2o$139b2ob2o2$139b2ob4o$139b2obo2bo$145bob
2o$144b2ob2o2$144b2ob4o$144b2obo2bo$150bob2o$149b2ob2o2$149b2ob4o$149b
2obo2bo$155bob2o$154b2ob2o2$154b2ob4o$154b2obo2bo$160bob2o$159b2ob2o2$
159b2ob4o$159b2obo2bo$165bob2o$164b2ob2o2$164b2ob4o$164b2obo2bo$170bob
2o$169b2ob2o2$169b2ob4o$169b2obo2bo$175bob2o$174b2ob2o2$174b2ob4o$174b
2obo2bo$180bob2o$179b2ob2o2$179b2ob4o$179b2obo2bo$185bob2o$184b2ob2o2$
184b2ob4o$184b2obo2bo$190bob2o$189b2ob2o2$189b2ob4o$189b2obo2bo$195bob
2o$194b2ob2o2$194b2ob4o$194b2obo2bo$200bob2o$199b2ob2o2$199b2ob4o$199b
2obo2bo$205bob2o$204b2ob2o2$204b2ob4o$204b2obo2bo$210bob2o$209b2ob2o2$
209b2ob4o$209b2obo2bo$215bob2o$214b2ob2o2$214b2ob4o$214b2obo2bo$220bob
2o$219b2ob2o2$219b2ob4o$219b2obo2bo$225bob2o$224b2ob2o2$224b2ob4o$224b
2obo2bo$230bob2o$229b2ob2o2$229b2ob4o$229b2obo2bo$235bobo$234b2ob3o$
240bo$234b2ob3o$234b2obo2$241b2o$241bo$239bobo$216b2o21b2o4b2o$216bo
27bobo$214bobo27bo$214b2o27b2o$191b2o$192bo66b2o$191bo40b2o25bo$191b2o
8bo29bo2bo22bobo$193bo6bobo29b2o23b2o$191b3o5bobo$190bo8b2o$190b2o68b
2o$221b2o36bobo$221b2o36bo$258b2o2$198b2o61b2o$198b2o62bo$238b2o19b3o$
224b2o13bo19bo$225bo10b3o21b2o$225bobo8bo24bo$226b2o22b2o5b2o2bob2o$
249bo2bo4bobobob2o$245b2o3bobo6bobo$244bobo4bo7bobo$244bo9b2o4bo$242bo
b2o8bo$241bobo11b3o$241bo2b2o11bo$226bo15bobo$227bo13b2o2bo$225b3o16b
2o!
#C [[ MAXGRIDSIZE 9 THEME Catagolue ]]

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x = 146, y = 117, rule = LifeHistory
108.2A5.2A2.2A.2A$108.A2.2A.A2.A2.A.2A$109.2A.A.2A.2A.A$110.A.A2.A.A
2.A.2A$108.A.BAB3A.A.2A.BA13.A$106.3ABA2B.A2B2A.B2A12.3A$105.A3.5A2B.
2B3A12.A$103.A2.2A.B6AB.2B2A4.2A6.2A$103.2A.A4.2B.2A3.B6.A.A3.4B$106.
A4.2B14.A.5B$36.2A11.A56.2A3.B16.7B$35.B2AB9.A.A59.B2A15.4B2A4B.B$36.
3B9.A.A2.2A3.A43.2A5.BA2BA6.2A6.4B2A3B.B2A$35.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A43.A
4.3B2A3B4.A7.11B2A$35.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A43.A.AB.8B.BA.A7.9B.2B$35.6B6.2A
BA2.4A.A45.2AB.8B.B2A3.2B2.10B$35.8B4.2A.A.A3.A49.12B4.2A13B$36.13B2.
A.AB2.A48.12B4.2A13B$34.13B5.A.A2B.A47.12B5.2B.11B$33.15B5.A2B.2A47.
10B10.9B.B2A$33.15B4.3B17.A34.7B14.7B.BA.A$32.17B.B.2B16.3A33.8B13.7B
5.A$32.29B8.A35.4B.5B11.8B5.2A$31.13B2A16B7.2A14.2A17.4B.6B10.4B2.4B$
30.14B2A16B2.B.5B5.2A6.B2AB15.4B3.6B8.4B4.4B$29.2AB3.27B.6B6.B2AB5.3B
15.4B4.3BA3B2.B3.4B6.4B$28.A2.A4.33B6.3B7.B15.4B5.2BABA11B8.4B$27.A.
2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B.B3.B.2B3.5B12.4B6.2BABA10B10.4B$27.A7.6B14.30BA4B
9.4B7.3BA10B12.4B$26.2A6.9B14.27BABA4B7.4B6.2AB.11B14.4B$33.4B4.2A15.
26BABA4B6.4B6.A.AB2.9B16.4B$32.4B5.A15.28BA4B6.4B7.A7.7B17.4B$31.4B7.
3A12.7B.23B7.4B7.2A7.6B19.4B$30.4B10.A10.2AB.3B4.20B8.4B17.5B21.4B$
29.4B21.A.AB9.4B2.13B7.4B17.5B23.3BA$28.4B22.A10.5B3.12B7.4B9.A7.5B
25.ABA$27.4B22.2A10.2A6.13B5.4B9.A.A5.5B27.2A$26.4B36.A6.12B5.4B10.BA
2B3.5B29.B$25.4B34.3A8.10B5.4B12.2B3.5B$24.2A2B35.A12.8B4.4B14.2B.5B
4.A2.2A$23.ABAB52.5B3.4B13.9B4.A.A2.A$22.3BA7.2A24.A9.A9.6B.4B13.B2A
6B5.A.A.A$21.4B9.A3.2A19.3A5.3A8.11B15.2A.5B4.2A.A.2A$20.4B9.A3.B2AB
14.2B5.A3.A12.9B17.8B.A2B.2A3.A$19.4B10.2A3.2B13.5B3.2A.B.2A11.8B4.A
15.2B2A2B.3B2A.B2A.A$18.4B13.AB.3B6.4B2.2B2AB3.7B11.3B2A2B3.3A17.2AB.
A3BABAB.A.A$17.4B12.3A6B5.8B2A2B4.3B14.2B2AB3.A21.2B2.3B2A.B3A$16.4B
12.A2.B.6B.15B3.4B12.6B2.B.2A19.2B3.A2B.2A$3.2A10.4B13.2A3.24B3A4B10.
2A4.6B18.B2AB4.2A.A.5A$4.A9.4B18.12BA20B10.A4.4B21.2A6.A.A2.A2.A$2.A
10.4B19.10BA3BA15B2AB.2B4.3A4.2A4B16.2A10.A2.A$2.5A5.4B5.2A12.10BA5BA
12B2AB2A2B2A3.A5.B2A5B14.B2AB10.2A$7.A4.4B5.A13.32B2A.B2A10.8B14.2B6.
B$4.3AB2.7B.BA.A14.10B2AB2A11BA3BA3B.B8.A2.2B.5BA14.2B4.3B$3.A.2B3.7B
.B2A14.2A11BA12BA5B12.A.A.2BA4B2AB12.4BA9B$3.4A12B11.2A2.A2BA9BA13BAB
A3B13.A2.BABAB2.ABAB11.4B2A8B7.A$.2A2.BA3B2A7B8.A2.A3.BABA.2B4.ABA14B
A4B16.A2BAB3.4B.B5.4BA3BA3B2AB2A7.3A$A2.3AB.2B2A7B7.A.A.A.4BA7.BA2BA
18B9.2A5.B2AB5.14B4A4BA2BA2B9.A$2A.A.B3.10B8.A2.A.2AB9.BABA19B9.A6.3B
6.12BA9BAB2A4B6.A.A$3.A8.8B10.A.BAB9.6B2A12B2A12.A.2A.4B5.12BA12BA5B
5.A.AB$3.2A7.9B10.A4.A6.10BA10B2A11.2AB2A3B2AB4.12BA2BA7B2A5BAB5.A3B$
13.3B2.4B10.5A6.3B2ABA4BA10B15.B4.2A6.14BA7BA7B2A6.4B$11.5B3.4B20.4BA
BABAB2A10B12.2A.2A9.2AB2.23B3.2A2B5.6B$11.2A7.4B10.A8.5B2ABAB2A10B13.
A.A9.A.AB4.B.16B7.4B4.7B$12.A8.4B8.A.A5.2AB.5B2ABA10B14.A.A9.A11.10B.
2B9.4B2.8B.4B.B$9.3A10.4B8.A5.A.AB2.6BA10B16.A9.2A12.9B13.17B.B2A$9.A
13.4B13.A6.16B37.11B15.18B2A$24.4B11.2A7.8B5.2A36.12B15.16B.2B$25.4B
19.7B6.A28.2A7.12B15.16B$26.4B18.6B8.3A24.A2.A2.2A2.11B16.15B$27.4B
17.5B11.A25.2A2.A.A2.8B.4B12.2AB.12B$28.4B16.7B37.2A.B3.7B4.2A11.A.AB
2.11B$29.4B14.9B2.2A.A30.A2.2B2.7B4.A12.A5.10B$30.4B12.12BA.2A27.2A.A
.BA2B.6B6.3A8.2A5.2B2A6B$31.4B10.12B32.A.2A.A.A8B8.A14.3B2A6B$32.4B8.
7B2A4B36.A.A.8B24.10B$33.4B6.8B2A3B34.2A2.A4.5B25.8B.B2A.A$34.4B4.14B
32.3A.2A4.6B24.7B3.B2AB3A$35.4B2.4B.9B32.A4.B6.6B23.6B6.B4.A$36.8B2.
9B33.3AB2AB3.7B24.6B4.2A.3A$37.6B4.8B35.A.2AB.8B25.5B4.A2.2A$38.4B4.
8B40.10B24.8B.A.A$19.2A16.6B4.6B41.6B2A3B14.A8.8BA.A.2A.A$12.2A3.2B2A
B14.8B3.6B41.6B2A2B5.2A8.3A6.6B.2BAB.A.2A$11.B2AB2.4B14.4B2.4B2.6B8.A
.2A29.10B5.A12.A4.7B2.2B2.A$12.2B3.6B.B9.4B4.4B.7B7.2A.A28.11B2.BA.A
11.2A4.7B3.B.2A$13.2B2.10B6.4B6.4B.6B39.12B.B2A12.4B.8B2.A.A2.2A$12.
2B2A11B5.4B8.9B6.5A28.15B16.11B2.2A2.A2.A$9.B.3B2A12B3.4B10.8B6.A4.A
2.2A22.16B15.12B7.2A$8.2A18B2.4B12.8B7.BAB.A2.A19.2B.16B15.12B$8.2AB.
15B2.4B9.4B.7B7.B2A.A.A19.2A18B15.11B$9.B3.19B8.6B2.6B5.A4B.A.2A18.2A
B.17B13.9B$13.18B9.15B3.ABAB3.A22.B.4B.8B2.4B9.2B.10B$14.19B2.2B2.16B
3.A2BA2.2A29.7B4.4B7.16B.B4.3B$14.45B2A35.6B5.2B2A3.28B$15.7B.36B39.
4B6.2A7BA7BA15B2A$15.6B2.16B2A17B6.2A34.3BA5.BA5B2A7BA2BA12B2A$14.7B.
17B2A18B5.A36.BA.A5.5BA12BA11B.B$14.6B.39B.BA.A37.A.A6.4B2ABA9BA11B$
15.9B7.4B.24B.B2A39.A9.2BA2BA4B4A11B$15.8B9.4B2.24B42.3A7.2AB2A3BA3BA
4B5.B$14.2BA5B11.29B44.A7.8B2A4B$14.BABA3B13.28B52.9BA4B$14.BA4B15.
26B57.3B4.2B$13.BA3B2A16.25B58.B6.2B$13.2BA2B2A13.B3.2B.22B63.B2AB$9.
B3.2BA4B12.2AB.3B.24B62.2A$8.2AB.8B12.2A3BA3.2B3.18B$8.2A4B2A2B2A13.B
.BA.A7.17B2A$9.B.3B6A16.BA.A8.B2.7B.2B.B2A$12.5BAB20.A13.B.2B6.B$12.
4B23.2A$13.4B$14.B2A$15.A$16.3A$18.A!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 2nd, 2024, 8:17 pm

Period1GliderGun wrote:
December 2nd, 2024, 3:12 pm
p35 pre-pulsar hassler, based off of Carson Cheng's p48:

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x = 92, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
33b2o22b2o$34bo22bo$2o32bobo18bobo32b2o$bo33b2o18b2o33bo$bobo38b3o2b3o
38bobo$2b2o27b2o9bobo2bobo9b2o27b2o$6b2o7bob2ob2o8b4o8b3o2b3o8b4o8b2o
b2obo7b2o$6bo8b2obobobob4obo3b2o22b2o3bob4obobobob2o8bo$6bo13bobobob3o
4bo2bo18bo2bo4b3obobobo13bo$5b2o3bobo6b2o2bo2bo4bo4bo18bo4bo4bo2bo2b2o
6bobo3b2o$10bobo2bo6bo4b2ob3o9b3o2b3o9b3ob2o4bo6bo2bobo$9bo3bobo4b5o6b
4o7bobo2bobo7b4o6b5o4bobo3bo$10b4obo5b4o17b3o2b3o17b4o5bob4o$8bobo3bo
2bob2o50b2obo2bo3bobo$8b2o3bo3bo2bo50bo2bo3bo3b2o$12bo5b2obo48bob2o5b
o$12b2o5bob3o44b3obo5b2o$19bo4bo42bo4bo$18b2o3b2o42b2o3b2o!
Good luck finding a sparker that can do both at once:

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x = 60, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
33b2o22b2o$34bo22bo$2o32bobo3bo10bo3bobo$bo33b3ob3o8b3ob3o$bobo33b2ob
obo6bobob2o$2b2o27b2o4b3ob3o4b3ob3o$6b2o7bob2ob2o8b4o4bobobo6bobobo$6b
o8b2obobobob4obo3b2o4b3o8b3o$6bo13bobobob3o4bo2bo18bo$5b2o3bobo6b2o2b
o2bo4bo4bo2b3o8b3o2bo$10bobo2bo6bo4b2ob3o5bobobo6bobobo$9bo3bobo4b5o6b
4o2b3ob3o4b3ob3o$10b4obo5b4o13bobobo6bobobo3b2o$8bobo3bo2bob2o18b3o8b
3o$8b2o3bo3bo2bo19bo10bo$12bo5b2obo$12b2o5bob3o$19bo4bo28bo$18b2o3b2o
28bo4b2o$53bo$56bob2o$55b2o$51b2o$50bobo$50bo$49b2o!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » December 2nd, 2024, 10:58 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
December 2nd, 2024, 8:17 pm
Good luck finding a sparker that can do both at once:

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x = 60, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
33b2o22b2o$34bo22bo$2o32bobo3bo10bo3bobo$bo33b3ob3o8b3ob3o$bobo33b2ob
obo6bobob2o$2b2o27b2o4b3ob3o4b3ob3o$6b2o7bob2ob2o8b4o4bobobo6bobobo$6b
o8b2obobobob4obo3b2o4b3o8b3o$6bo13bobobob3o4bo2bo18bo$5b2o3bobo6b2o2b
o2bo4bo4bo2b3o8b3o2bo$10bobo2bo6bo4b2ob3o5bobobo6bobobo$9bo3bobo4b5o6b
4o2b3ob3o4b3ob3o$10b4obo5b4o13bobobo6bobobo3b2o$8bobo3bo2bob2o18b3o8b
3o$8b2o3bo3bo2bo19bo10bo$12bo5b2obo$12b2o5bob3o$19bo4bo28bo$18b2o3b2o
28bo4b2o$53bo$56bob2o$55b2o$51b2o$50bobo$50bo$49b2o!
This seems difficult, but not inherently impossible. There are a lot of potential ways to delete the extra blinker. However, we need to know how much room we have to work with, and for that we need to know how we can activate the odd traffic stop at p35. I'm only aware of this method:
hotcrystal0 wrote:
October 26th, 2024, 6:37 pm

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x = 51, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
25bo$25b3o8bo$15b2o11bo6bo$16bo2b2o6bo2bob2o2bo$16bobo2bo5bo5bo$15b2o
2bo2bo$16bobobob3o3bo$14bo3b3o4bo4b2o$13bob3obob4o4bob2o$13bo3bo3bo8b
o5b2o$14b3o5b3o11bobo$9b2o5bob3obo2bo12bo$7b3obo5b5o2b2o12b2o$6bo4bo6b
3o$4b3ob2ob2o$3bo3bobo2bo26b2o$2bo2bo5b2o11b2o14bo$3b10o10bo16bob2ob2o
$7bobo2bo6bob2o3bo12b2o2bobobo$b4ob2obob2o6bo3b2o2b3obo6bo2bobo3bo$o2b
o3bobo2bo6bob3o2b2o3bo6b2obob2ob2ob2o$2o3bobo2b2o12bo3b2obo6bo2bobo4b
obo$4b2ob2obo16bo10b10o$10bo14b2o11b2o5bo$10b2o26bo2bobo$38b2ob2ob4o$
30b3o6bo4bo2bo$29b5o5bob3o$28bob3obo5b2o$26b3o5b3o$25bo3bo3bo3bo$25bo
b3obob4o$26bo3b3o$28bobobob2obo$27b2o2bo2bob2o$28bobo2bo$28bo2b2o$27b
2o!
Attaching this to the above p35 pre-pulsar shuttle doesn't give much room for p5 oscillators:

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x = 87, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
69b2o$68bobo$65bo2bo$64bobob2o$63bo2bobo2bo$63bob2o2b3o$62b2o4bo$61bo
2bobob4o$61bobo7bo$60b2ob2obob2o$60bo9b4o$61b3o4bobo2bo$63bo4b2o$57b2o
5b5o$56bo2bo$51bo2bo2bobo$51b5obob2o$57b2o3bo$53b3o2b2o$52bobo2bobo3bo
11bo$52bob2o2b2o14bo$53bo3b2o3bo11bobo$54b2obob2o7bo6bo$55bobobo7bobo$
55bobobobo4b2ob2o$49b2o5bo3b2o5bo2bo8b2o$50bo16b2ob2o6bo2bo$46bo3bobo
15bobo7bobo2bo2bo$45b2o4b2o16bo7b2obob5o$45bobo7b2o18bo3b2o$56bob2ob2o
15b2o2b3o$53bo9bo10bo3bobo2bobo$18b2o3b2o28bo4b2ob2o15b2o2b2obo$19bo4b
o28bo21bo3b2o3bo$12b2o5bob3o53b2obob2o$12bo5b2obo56bobobo$8b2o3bo3bo2b
o19bo10bo6b2o18bobo2bo$8bobo3bo2bob2o18b3o8b3o5bo10b5o5bo2b2o$10b4obo
5b4o13bobobo6bobobo5b3o6b2o4bo$9bo3bobo4b5o6b4o2b3ob3o4b3ob3o6bo2bo2bo
bo4b3o$10bobo2bo6bo4b2ob3o5bobobo6bobobo10b4o9bo$5b2o3bobo6b2o2bo2bo4b
o4bo2b3o8b3o2bo12b2obob2ob2o$6bo13bobobob3o4bo2bo18bo10bo7bobo$6bo8b2o
bobobob4obo3b2o4b3o8b3o13b4obobo2bo$6b2o7bob2ob2o8b4o4bobobo6bobobo15b
o4b2o$2b2o27b2o4b3ob3o4b3ob3o11b3o2b2obo$bobo33b2obobo6bobob2o11bo2bob
o2bo$bo33b3ob3o8b3ob3o10b3obo2b2o$2o32bobo3bo10bo3bobo12bo$34bo22bo11b
o$33b2o22b2o10b2o!
Are there any other ways to activate an odd traffic stop at p35?

Edit: it should theoretically be possible to activate an odd traffic stop with a p7 oscillator as demonstrated by this very limited partial result:

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x = 25, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
19b2o2b2o$2o17bobo2bo$bo19b3o$bobo13b4o$2b2o3bo5bo2bo4bo$7bo4bo3bobobo
$7bo4bo2b2o2bobo$13bo2b2obo$3b3o3b3o2bo2b4o$14b2obo3bo$15bobo2bobo$13b
obobo$9b2o2b2o3b4o$9bo10bo$10b5o$12bo2bo$14b2o!
Unfortunately, that eater at the bottom would probably interfere with the necessary p5 domino sparker for the gun.
-Matthias Merzenich

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