Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by Jormungant » December 7th, 2023, 9:10 am

confocaloid wrote:
December 7th, 2023, 5:00 am
Here is a proof-of-concept construction, to show that engineered bumpers for periods >= 63 are possible geometrically
I guess I should mention that there is this "failed regularizator" that work here:

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x = 725, y = 305, rule = LifeHistory
95$213.2A$213.A.A2.2B5.2A5.2A$214.A6B3.B2AB3.B2AB$216.5B4.2B5.2B$216.
2BA3B4.2B3.2B$215.2B3A2B3.2AB3.B2A$215.B2A2BAB.BA2BAB.BA2BAB$205.AB.
4B3.BA3BAB.BA3BA.A3BAB$204.A.2AB2A2B2.BAB2A2.2BA3BA.A3BA2B$204.A.4B2A
B2.B2A3B2.A2BA.A.A.A2BA$203.2A.A2BA2BAB.6B2.BABA.A.A.ABAB324.2A$201.B
AB.B3A.2BAB.6B5.BA3.AB308.2A5.2A5.2B2.A.A$201.BA3B3.3BAB.3B2AB319.B2A
B3.B2AB3.6BA$201.BA2B.3AB.BAB2.2ABAB320.2A5.2A4.5B$201.BA2BA2BA.2A2.B
A3BAB321.2A3.2A4.6B$202.B2A4B.A3.BA2B2AB6.2A312.2AB3.B2A3.7B$202.2B2A
B2A.A3.2B3A2B6.A311.3BABA.ABA3B.2B3A2B$203.4B.BA4.3BA2B4.BA.A311.5BA.
A5B.2BA2BAB3.ABAB.2A$215.5B4.3A311.6BA.A6B2.AB2AB2.A2BA2BA.A$215.4B.
2B3A314.3AB.A.A.B3A2.6B2.B2ABA2B.A$213.8BAB2AB313.2ABA.A.A.AB2A2.6B.
6B2A.2A$201.2A5.2A3.2A3B2.2AB2A317.BA3.AB5.6B.4B.B2AB.A2B$202.A5.2A2B
.2A2B4.AB.2A328.6B.2B3A3.3A2B$202.A.AB3.7B3.AB.ABAB328.B2ABA2.2BA.B2A
B.4B$203.2AB.8B4.2A.A.A.A.2A324.BA2BA2B2.2A.2A6B$205.2B2A5B8.A.A.2A.A
316.2A6.2B3A2B3.A.2BAB2AB$205.BABA5B8.2A323.A6.7B3.A.A2BA2BA$206.BA6B
A332.A.AB4.6B4.2A.BABA$208.4BABAB332.2AB4.5B$207.B.B3.2A2B333.5B.4B$
206.3B5.4B331.2B3A8B$202.2A2.3B6.4B331.BA3B2.5B3.2A5.2A$202.A2.2AB2A
6.4B329.2B.BA4.4B.2B2A5.A$204.2A.A.3A5.4B328.A2BA.BA3.7B3.BA.A$207.AB
3.A5.4B323.2A.A.A.A.2A4.8B.B2A$203.A.2A.5A2.A3.4B322.A.2A.A.A8.5B2A2B
$203.2A.A.A.B2.3A4.4B327.2A8.5BABAB$206.A.A3BA8.4B335.7BAB$206.2AB2A.
A.4A4.4B333.8B$207.4B.A.A2.A5.4B331.4B3.B.B$208.3B2A11.4B329.4B5.3A$
208.BAB2.A11.4B327.A3B6.3B2.2A$209.AB3A12.4B325.A3B6.ABABA2.A$209.2B
16.BABA323.B3A5.3A.A.2A$205.A2.A.A.2A14.B2AB17.2A.2A299.4B5.A3.BA$
205.4A.2A.A15.A3B17.A.A299.4B3.A2.5A.2A.A$209.A20.4B11.2A.A5.A.2A293.
4B4.3A2.A.A.A.2A$207.A.A21.4B9.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A9.A281.4B8.A2BAB.A$207.
2A23.4B7.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A8.3A10.2A266.4B4.4A.A.4BA$233.4B6.7AB.B7A
11.A7.BABAB264.4B5.A2.A.A.4A$234.4B9.3B.B.3B14.2A3.B3.3AB264.4B11.5A$
235.4B6.3AB.3B.B3A12.8B.2AB3A261.4B11.A2.2BA$236.4B4.A.BA3BA3BAB.A13.
8B4ABA259.4B12.5A$237.4B3.2A3.BABAB3.2A13.11B3A258.4B16.2B$238.4B7.BA
BAB17.15B235.2A.2A17.4B14.2A.A.A2.A$239.4B6.2BA2B.B13.11BA5B236.A.A
17.4B15.A.2A.4A$240.4B6.B.B.5B3.2B2.13BABA4B231.2A.A5.A.2A11.4B20.A$
241.4B2.15B2A5BD8B2AB2A2B221.A9.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A9.BA2B21.A.A$242.3BA15B
A2BA4BDBD4B.B4A2B208.2A10.3A8.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A7.2A2B23.2A$243.3BA3B
3D8BA2BA4B3D4B2.4A2B.2A204.B2A2B7.A11.7AB.B7A6.2B2A$244.3A3BD2BD6B2AB
2A6BD4B.2BA7BA204.4B3.B3.2A14.3B.B.3B9.4B$245.4BD2B2D7B2A12B.4B3A4BA
202.6B.8B12.3AB.3B.B3A6.4B$246.3B2D2BDB2.B2.3B.4B7.6BA2B.2A202.14B13.
A.BA3BA3BAB.A4.4B$247.9B9.2B3.B4.9B205.14B13.2A3.BABAB3.2A3.4B$240.2A
5.9B9.3B.B2A4.7B206.15B17.BABAB7.4B$240.A.A4.9B10.A3B2A4.7B5.2A199.
17B13.B.2BA2B6.4B$242.A4.2B2A3B.B2A7.A.AB.B6.7B4.2A199.20B2.2B3.5B.B.
B6.4B$242.3A.2BA2BA2B.BA.A5.A.AB10.5B207.14BAD22B2.4B$240.2A2.BA3BABA
B5.A5.A14.3B4.4A201.7B.4BCBCA26B$239.A2.4A4BA4B3.2A3.2A14.DBD3.A3.A
198.AB.6B2.3BACDC9B2A5B3D7B$239.2A.A.4B5.2A25.D2B2.2A2.A.AB194.ABA8B.
4BC11B2A4BD2BD6B$242.A.2A7.A25.8B3.A.A2B192.ABA5B4A.21B2D2BD4B$242.A.
A9.3A21.3B2D2B6.A2B.2A191.AB.3B5AB7.4B.3B2.B2.BD2BDC3B$241.2A.A.A9.A
20.4B2DA5B.3B2.2A194.3BA2BA2B4.B3.3B8.5BABAB$245.2A29.4B.B3AB3A3B200.
7B6.B.6B6.7B2A5.2A$275.4B2.2A6B2A2B199.BABA3B3.2A.3B3.2A6.7BAB4.A.A$
274.4B2.3B2A9B197.2B3A2B4.2AB.B4.A5.2AB.5B2A4.A$273.4B4.2B2ABA3BA4B
197.2BA2B15.3A.A.AB.2BA2B2AB.3A$272.4B3.2AB.4B3A2.4B197.3B4.4A10.A.A
5.BABA3BAB2.2A$271.ABAB3.A.AB3.5B3.4B196.DBD3.A3.A11.2A3.4BA4B4A2.A$
270.B2AB4.A8.2B5.4B196.D2B2.2A2.A.AB13.2A5.4B.A.2A$269.3BA4.2A16.4B
194.8B3.A.A3B11.A7.2A.A$268.4B24.4B192.3B2C2B6.A3B2A7.3A9.A.A$267.4B
26.4B190.4B2C6B.3B.B2A7.A9.A.A.2A$266.4B28.4B188.4B.4B2A5B3.B18.2A$
265.4B30.4B186.4B2.3BA2BA5B$264.4B32.2B2A184.4B2.5BABA6B$263.4B34.BAB
A182.4B4.5BA8B$262.4B36.A3B180.4B3.2AB.7B2.4B$261.4B38.4B178.4B3.A.AB
3.5B3.4B$260.4B40.4B176.4B4.A8.2B5.4B$259.4B42.4B174.4B4.2A16.4B$258.
4B44.4B172.4B24.B3A$257.4B46.4B170.BA2B26.A3B$256.A3B48.4B168.2A2B28.
A3B$255.A3B50.4B166.2B2A30.4B$254.B3A52.4B164.4B32.4B$253.4B54.4B162.
4B34.4B$252.4B56.4B161.3B36.4B$251.4B58.4B160.2B38.4B$250.4B60.4B159.
B40.4B$249.4B62.4B200.4B$248.4B64.2B2A200.4B$247.4B66.2A2B200.4B$246.
4B68.BA2B200.4B$245.4B70.4B200.4B$244.4B72.4B200.4B$243.4B74.4B200.3B
A$242.4B76.4B200.B2AB$241.4B78.4B200.ABAB$240.BA2B80.4B200.4B$239.2A
2B82.4B200.4B$238.2B2A84.4B200.4B$237.4B86.4B200.4B$236.4B88.4B200.4B
$235.4B90.4B200.4B$234.4B92.4B200.4B$233.4B94.4B200.4B$232.4B96.B3A
200.4B$231.4B98.A3B200.4B$230.4B100.A3B200.4B$229.4B102.4B200.4B$228.
4B104.4B200.4B$227.4B106.4B200.2B2A$226.4B108.4B200.BABA$225.4B110.4B
200.A3B$224.A3B112.4B200.4B$223.BABA114.4B200.4B$222.2B2A116.4B200.4B
$221.4B118.4B200.4B$220.4B120.4B23.2A175.4B$219.4B122.4B21.A.A176.4B$
218.4B124.4B20.A179.4B$217.4B126.3BA15.A.2A.4A176.4B$216.4B128.B2AB
14.2A.A.A2.A177.4B$215.4B130.ABAB16.2B182.4B$214.4B132.4B12.3ABA183.
4B$213.4B134.4B11.A2.BAB183.4B$212.4B136.4B11.2A3B184.4B$211.4B138.4B
5.A2.A.A.4B184.2B2A$210.4B140.4B4.4A.A.2AB2A184.2A2B23.2A$209.4B142.
4B8.A3BA.A185.BA2B21.A.A$208.4B144.4B4.3A2.B.A.A.2A183.4B20.A$207.4B
146.4B3.A2.5A.2A.A184.4B15.A.2A.4A$206.4B148.4B5.A3.BA189.4B14.2A.A.A
2.A$206.3B150.4B5.3A.A.2A187.4B16.2B$206.2B152.4B6.2AB2A2.A186.4B12.
5A$206.B154.4B6.3B2.2A187.4B11.A2.2BA$362.4B5.3B192.4B11.5A$363.2B2A
3.B.B194.4B5.A2.A.A.4A$364.BABA4B196.4B4.4A.A.4BA$365.A6BAB195.4B8.A
2BAB.A$356.2A8.5BABAB195.4B4.3A2.A.A.A.2A$350.A.2A.A.A8.5B2A2B196.4B
3.A2.5A.2A.A$350.2A.A.A.A.2A4.8B.B2A195.4B5.A3.BA$354.BABA.BA3.7B3.BA
.A195.B3A5.3A.A.2A$354.2A.BA4.2B2A.2B2A5.A196.A3B6.ABABA2.A$355.2AB2A
2.3B2A3.2A5.2A196.A3B6.3B2.2A$354.B2ABA8B209.4B5.3A$355.3A2B.4B212.4B
3.B.B$353.3A4.5B213.8B$352.A.AB4.2BA3B4.AB.4B202.7BAB$352.A6.2B3A2B3.
A.2AB2A2B192.2A8.5BABAB$351.2A6.B2A2BAB3.A.4B2AB186.A.2A.A.A8.5B2A2B$
359.BA3BAB2.2A.A2BA2BAB185.2A.A.A.A.2A4.8B.B2A$359.BAB2A2.BAB.B3A.2BA
B189.A2BA.BA3.7B3.BA.A$359.B2A3B.BA3B3.3BAB189.2B.BA4.4B.2B2A5.A$347.
BA3.AB5.6B.BA2B.3AB.BAB190.BA3B2.5B3.2A5.2A$344.BABA.A.A.ABAB2.6B.BA
2BA2BA.2A191.2B3A8B$344.A2BA.A.A.A2BA2.3B2AB2.B2A4B.A193.5B.4B$343.2B
A3BA.A3BA2B2.2ABAB2.2B2AB2A.A191.2AB4.5B$344.BA3BA.A3BAB.BA3BAB3.4B.B
A191.A.AB4.6B4.2A.BABA$344.BA2BAB.BA2BAB.BA2B2AB201.A6.7B3.A.A2BA2BA$
346.2AB3.B2A3.2B3A2B200.2A6.2B3A2B3.A.2BAB2AB$347.2B3.2B4.3BA2B209.BA
2BA2B2.2A.2A6B$346.2B5.2B4.5B209.B2ABA2.2BA.B2AB.4B$345.B2AB3.B2AB3.
6BA207.6B.2B3A3.3A2B$346.2A5.2A5.2B2.A.A194.BA3.AB5.6B.4B.B2AB.A2B$
365.2A191.2ABA.A.A.AB2A2.6B.6B2A.2A$558.3AB.A.A.B3A2.6B2.B2ABA2B.A$
557.6BA.A6B2.AB2AB2.A2BA2BA.A$558.5BA.A5B.2BA2BAB3.ABAB.2A$558.3BABA.
ABA3B.2B3A2B$560.2AB3.B2A3.7B$561.2A3.2A4.6B$560.2A5.2A4.5B$559.B2AB
3.B2AB3.6BA$560.2A5.2A5.2B2.A.A$579.2A!

It is failed because many timing would make it blow out, but it is more versatile than a fixed period.

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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by C28 » January 8th, 2024, 3:22 pm

Thorn to chaos

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x = 15, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13bo$11bobo$11b2o14$3b2o$4bo$o3bo$b3o13$2o$2o!
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by Tawal » January 17th, 2024, 5:22 pm

This TL+Boat E precursor can give a useless R + G :

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x = 37, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
$19.B$18.3AB$18.3B.2B$15.BAB3.BA3B$14.2BA5BA4B$15.BA3B.BA4B$5.2C9.9B.
B2C$6.C7.4B3A.B3.BC.C$6.C.CB4.9B6.C$7.2CB.3B2D4BA4B4.2C$9.4BD2BD2BABA
4B$9.7BD3B2A3B$9.4B3D8B$9.15B$10.13B$12.7B2.4B$13.5B5.2C$15.BDBD4.C$
16.B2D5.3C$17.D8.C!
#C [[ STOP 63 ]]
Otherwise this reaction delivers some interesting informations I think.
There is :
  • 2 sparks = precursor R+G
  • Tub + pre-Hive = precursor R+G
  • pre-Pond + duoplet = R
  • pre-Pond + dot spark = R

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x = 111, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
$71.A.A30.A$73.A29.A.2A$10.A29.2A29.3A30.2A$10.A29.2A27.A32.A.A$9.A2.
A27.2A27.A$12.A29.A$10.A.A28.A.A$11.A30.A!
Edit:
The same pre-Pond without its dot (which gives a Loaf) added with the same duoplet gives also a R with a delay of one tick :

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x = 42, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
3$3.A.A29.A$5.A29.A$3.3A27.3A$.A29.A$.A29.A!
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by C28 » April 26th, 2024, 8:17 am

U-turner to chaos that might have potential

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x = 20, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
17b3o$17b3o$5b2o9bobo$5bo10b2o$6b3o$8bo$6b2o$6bo$4bobo$4b2o$9b2o$4b2o
2bo2bo$bo2bo4bobo$obobo5bo$bo2bob2o$4bo2bo$5bo4bo$6b5o2$8bo$7bobo$8bo!
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by C28 » November 10th, 2024, 10:13 pm

sorry for doubleposting (at least i think it's doubleposting? idk), but i got an E-heptomino to chaos that could probably be made into a conduit

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x = 40, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
38b2o$14b3o21b2o$13b2o$14b2o3$2b2o$bobo29bo$bo30bobobob2o$2o29bob2ob2o
bo$31bo$30b2o2$12bo$11bobo2b2o$12bo3bobo$18bo$18b2o!
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Quantum-mechanics » August 18th, 2025, 9:44 am

G+R to P+H:

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x = 41, y = 44, rule = LifeHistory
C.C$.2C$.C9$37.A$35.3A$34.A$25.A8.2A$23.A.A$24.A.A11.A$24.A13.A.A$37.
A.A$39.A2$28.C$26.3C8.2A$27.C9.A.A$39.A$39.2A5$23.D.D$23.D.D$23.3D9$26.
3D$28.D$27.3D!
EDIT by dvgrn: Moved this to another thread -- not really sure it's the right thread, but with the extra input glider and the input R-pentomino in an awkward position, this is not an elementary conduit.

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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by whatislife » August 21st, 2025, 11:19 pm

I'm cross-posting this collection of switch engine channel caps from discord, since it has been a few weeks and I haven't been able to find a SE-to-glider. I had two false positives from setting clearances incorrectly so I do think it is doable, and hope this inspires someone to try, or at least saves my notes for later.
I wrote:Five different sparks from feeding silk a switch engine with conduit clearance. The first one turned up quickly, and I have tried searches with the spark left after the boat is reformed, with no gliders yet. 1) long lived fizzle 2) domino 3) long lived fizzle with a temporary blinker 4) MWSS spark I guess? 5) this is just the normal switch engine back spark but maybe that's useful

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x = 192, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
142.A41.A$142.3A37.3A$145.A35.A$60.2A82.2A35.2A$59.A2.A2.2A27.A$59.A.
A2.A.A25.3A96.A$49.A7.2A2.4A26.A77.2A18.3A$48.A.A2.2A.A2.2A4.A25.2A4.
A49.A21.A.A16.A$48.A.A3.A.3A2.3A.A30.A.A47.A.A21.A17.2A$46.3A.2A2.A4.
A.A2.A32.A81.A$11.A33.A9.3A.A2.2A40.2A39.A2.A29.A.A$2A7.3A34.3A.2A5.A
2.A.A41.A40.2A$2A6.A39.A.2A6.A.A.A43.A2.A35.A31.A2.A$8.2A8.A40.A3.2A
40.5A67.2A$17.A.A40.2A.A.A29.A81.A$17.A.A42.A2.A28.A.A8.3A$16.2A.3A
31.A8.A.A40.A2.A$22.A29.A.A6.2A.2A27.A2.A10.2A$11.A4.2A.3A71.2A$10.A.
A3.2A.A31.A2.A38.A$10.2A39.2A$51.A2$11.A5.2A$10.A.A4.A.A$19.A$9.A2.A
6.2A$9.2A$9.A!
Results since that post:
Removing one block from (1) above makes a block factory (not a toggle or anything that interesting)

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x = 15, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
3.A$.3A$A$2A8.A$9.A.A$9.A.A$8.2A.3A$14.A$3.A4.2A.3A$2.A.A3.2A.A$2.2A
3$3.A5.2A$2.A.A4.A.A$11.A$.A2.A6.2A$.2A$.A!
Above: three more types of fizzles. Below: removing one catalyst makes a different block factory.

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x = 94, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A$4.A81.A$.2A.A80.A.A$.A.A10.2A21.A13.A34.A$13.A.A21.3A10.A.A$9.2A
2.A26.A9.A.A20.2A$8.A2.A.2A24.2A8.2A.3A19.A$.2A6.A.A.A2.A38.A18.A.A$.
2A7.A4.2A32.2A.3A20.2A7.A$49.2A.A30.A.A2$82.A2.A6.2A$2.A33.2A44.2A8.
2A$.A.A32.2A8.A35.A$45.A.A3.2A$A2.A47.2A$2A42.A2.A$A43.2A$44.A9$5.2A$
5.A$2.2A.A$2.A.A4$2.2A$2.2A4$3.A$2.A.A2$.A2.A$.2A$.A!
Notes for Silk users
I could get most of this to turn up in a search as small as "7 7 7" within a few minutes on a desktop GPU, and I also made longer searches up to "15 15 10". Past 11 active cells results arrive very slowly for me. I tried manually extending searches with intermediate sparks in most of the reactions listed.
This example infile has blue unknown cells as close as I dared for clearance. I almost always used the phase shown, sometimes with blue cells left out or catalysts pre-placed.

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x = 28, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$28B$
28B$28B$11B5.12B$10B7.11B$9B4.A3.11B$8B4.A.A2.11B$17.11B$11.A2.A2.11B
$11.2A4.11B$11.A5.11B$17.11B$18.10B$19.9B!
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by apg » October 27th, 2025, 3:57 am

whatislife wrote:
August 21st, 2025, 11:19 pm
This example infile has blue unknown cells as close as I dared for clearance.
There's no need to guess; you can just run a swimmer track and look at its envelope to determine where you can safely place cells:

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x = 60, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$
60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$60B$26B3.31B$25B5.30B$24B3.A
3.29B$18B4.B3.A.A3.28B$17B15.28B$25.A2.A3.28B$25.2A6.27B$9.2C14.A8.
26B$9.C.C22.26B$10.C25.24B$37.23B$37.23B$37.23B$37.23B$36.24B$.2C32.
25B$.C.C31.25B$2.C32.25B$35.25B$35.25B$31.C3.25B$30.C.C2.25B$31.2C2.
25B$35.25B$35.25B$35.25B$35.25B$35.25B$23.C11.25B$22.C.C10.25B$23.2C
10.25B$35.25B!
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by qqd » October 28th, 2025, 11:38 am

whatislife wrote:
August 21st, 2025, 11:19 pm
I'm cross-posting this collection of switch engine channel caps from discord, since it has been a few weeks and I haven't been able to find a SE-to-glider. I had two false positives from setting clearances incorrectly so I do think it is doable, and hope this inspires someone to try, or at least saves my notes for later.
...
Results since that post:
Removing one block from (1) above makes a block factory (not a toggle or anything that interesting)

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x = 15, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
3.A$.3A$A$2A8.A$9.A.A$9.A.A$8.2A.3A$14.A$3.A4.2A.3A$2.A.A3.2A.A$2.2A
3$3.A5.2A$2.A.A4.A.A$11.A$.A2.A6.2A$.2A$.A!
...
I do not know why Silk used an eater 2 for this result with the transparent boat when a regular eater 1 works just as well (EDIT: P1GG also found that the same eater 1 is not needed to produce the active region in Karel's p177 from the collision between the switch engine and boat):

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x = 31, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
12bo$10b3o$2o7bo$bo7b2o$bobo$2b2o$8b2o$8b2o7$21bo$9b2o8b3o$9b2o7bo$18b
2o5$21bo$20bobo$20b2o3$21bo5b2o$20bobo4bobo$29bo$19bo2bo6b2o$19b2o$19b
o!
I could not get anywhere with permanent catalysts, so I am trying transparent ones in the hope I get something that I can easily modify to restore that transparent block (such as the pi generated after the active region reacts with a second transparent block, which is catalyzed by two eaters to restore that block.) I already know of several Pi-to-blocks where the block is positioned near to the input location, and have found many transparent blocks this way. (Examples include PR87H and a 2x pulse divider involving an H-to-loaf factory.)

EDIT: I also found this multi catalysis of an eater 1 with a different result from Silk, which produces a B-heptomino which sadly crashes into the boats (or claw-with-tails) of the switch engine channel along with an extra traffic light:

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x = 19, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
3bo$b3o$o$2o4bo$5bobo$6bo3$17b2o$17bo$4bo10bobo$3bobo9b2o2$2bo2bo$2b2o
$2bo!
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 22nd, 2025, 9:54 pm

This reaction might have some potential:

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x = 18, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$14bobo$14b2o$2o$b2o$2o$o2$14b2o$14bobo$16bo$16b2o!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 23rd, 2025, 10:12 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
November 22nd, 2025, 9:54 pm
This reaction might have some potential:

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x = 18, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$14bobo$14b2o$2o$b2o$2o$o2$14b2o$14bobo$16bo$16b2o!
This converts a B into a pi+block collision:

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17bo$15bobo$15b2o$b2o$2b2o$b2o$bo8$2b2o5b2o$3bo5bo$3o7b3o$o11bo!
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 23rd, 2025, 10:19 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
November 23rd, 2025, 10:12 am
hotcrystal0 wrote:
November 22nd, 2025, 9:54 pm
This reaction might have some potential:

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x = 18, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$14bobo$14b2o$2o$b2o$2o$o2$14b2o$14bobo$16bo$16b2o!
This converts a B into a pi+block collision:

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17bo$15bobo$15b2o$b2o$2b2o$b2o$bo8$2b2o5b2o$3bo5bo$3o7b3o$o11bo!
I actually found this myself yesterday, but I didn’t post it since I assumed that it wouldn’t be useful for anything.
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by hotcrystal0 » December 9th, 2025, 4:23 pm

Herschel-to-chaos that’s probably known:

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x = 30, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20b2o4$2o$bo21b2o$bobo18bobo$2b2o18b2o$26b2o$26bobo$28bo$28b2o3$
2bo$2bobo$2b3o$4bo!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by qqd » December 10th, 2025, 6:13 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
December 9th, 2025, 4:23 pm
Herschel-to-chaos that’s probably known:

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x = 30, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20b2o4$2o$bo21b2o$bobo18bobo$2b2o18b2o$26b2o$26bobo$28bo$28b2o3$
2bo$2bobo$2b3o$4bo!
It is known, at least one Herschel conduit has been made with it, and the reaction probably dates back even further than this:
qqd wrote:
November 13th, 2025, 8:02 am
4.66920 16091 wrote:
September 30th, 2025, 2:18 am
Is this HFx217H known?

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x = 56, y = 58, rule = LifeSuper
38.B$37.3D$37.BDB$36.2B3D$36.5B$36.6B$36.6B$36.5B$35.6B$36.6B$35.7B$
35.6B$35.6B$35.6B$34.8B$35.8B$34.9B$34.9B$34.10B$34.5B2A3B$34.5B2A4B$
34.11B$21.A12.12BA.2A$19.3A8.A4.9B2.2A.A$18.A11.3A3.7B$18.2A13.A2.6B$
16.4B12.2A2.6B$15.2AB14.11B$15.A.AB15.8B$16.2AB14.11B$16.3B12.14B$16.
4B9.15B$17.4B3.3B.16B$5.2A8.29B$4.BA.A35B$4.2B2A34B$2.2AB.37B5.2A$.A.
AB4.34B5.A.A.2A.A$.A7.34B7.A.A.2A$2A9.33B5.B2A$9.3B.32B5.2B$7.A.2A2.
2B.30B3.2B$5.3AB2A5.31B.B2AB$4.A4.B7.32B2A$5.3A.2A6.20B2.9B.B$7.A.A7.
16B7.7B$7.A.A8.12B.B6.3B.B2A2B7.A$8.A7.4B.4B3CB9.2A2.B2AB3.2BA.2BA$
16.2A4.4BC2B10.A2.4B3.BA4BA$17.A4.2B3C2B7.3A4.2B2.3BA2B.A$14.3A6.6B7.
A7.2B.2BAB2A$14.A8.7B13.B2A2B3A$25.B.4B13.2AB.B2A$28.4B13.B$29.4B$30.
4B$31.4B$32.4B!
Found a significant reduction which also releases the Herschel's second natural glider:

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x = 52, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
21b2o$21b2o4$b2o$2bo21b2o$2bobo18bobo$3b2o18b2o$27b2o$27bobo$29bo$29b
2o3$3bo$3bobo$3b3o$5bo3$28b2o$28bo$26bobo$26b2o3$2b2o$3bo47bo$3bobo43b
3o$4b2o26b2o15bo$32b2o15bo3$5b2o$2o3b2o$2o$29b2o$29bo$bo13b2o13bo$3o6b
2o5bo12b2o$2ob2o4b2o2b3o$2bo2bo7bo$2bo11b2o$15bo$3bo2bo7bo$4b2o8b2o!
Which also reduces this block factory:

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x = 30, y = 49, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$20.2A4$2A$.A21.2A$.A.A18.A.A$2.2A18.2A$26.2A$26.A.A$28.A$28.2A3$
2.C$2.C.C$2.3C$4.C2$25.2A$25.A$23.A.A$23.2A$27.2A$5.2E20.A$4.E2.E17.A
.A$5.2E18.2A13$2A15.2D2.2A$2A15.2D2.2A4$3.2A$4.A$.3A$.A!
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by C28 » January 13th, 2026, 1:52 pm

pi to chaos i'll have to look into at a later point

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x = 31, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6bo2b2o$3b2obo3bo$2bo2bob3o4b2o$o2bobobo6bo$2obobo9b3o$3bob2o10b
o$2obo$o2bob2o$2b2ob2o22b2o$29b2o3$8b3o$8bobo$8bobo!
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by Jormungant » January 13th, 2026, 10:01 pm

C28 wrote:
January 13th, 2026, 1:52 pm
pi to chaos i'll have to look into at a later point

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x = 31, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6bo2b2o$3b2obo3bo$2bo2bob3o4b2o$o2bobobo6bo$2obobo9b3o$3bob2o10b
o$2obo$o2bob2o$2b2ob2o22b2o$29b2o3$8b3o$8bobo$8bobo!
p-to-b+block:

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x = 50, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
9$27.2A.2A$28.A.A$26.A.B3.A$21.2B2.B6A.A$19.9B3.B.A$17.7B.B2AB4A$17.
7B.B2ABAB2.3A$18.10B2.B2A2.A$17.3B3C3B6.A$14.8BC4B5.A.A$12.8B3C5B5.2A
$11.17B$12.15B$7.B5.13B$6.D20B4.2A$5.2D21B2.A.A$4.2D12B.9B2.A$5.2D21B
.2A$5.24B$5.24B$6.23B$6.2B2D18B$8.2D19B$10.18B$10.18B$11.16B$14.13B$
14.9B.2B$14.9B2.2B$13.10B.B2AB$13.7B5.2A$13.7B$14.8B$15.B2.4B$17.B2A
2B$18.2A.B2A$21.BA.A$24.A$24.2A!
well, that could get some improvement, not clear there is usable variant:

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x = 71, y = 49, rule = LifeHistory
5$13.15B$12.16B$11.17B31.2A.2A$12.16B32.A.A$13.13B32.A.B3.A$13.5B2A2B
.4B26.2B2.B6A.A$15.3B2A2B2.4B23.9B3.B.A$15.8B2.4B20.7B.B2AB4A$14.3B3D
2B4.4B10.A8.7B.B2ABAB2.3A$14.4BD3B5.4B7.3A9.10B2.B2A2.A$14.2B3D2B7.4B
5.A11.3B3C3B6.A$14.7B8.4B4.2A7.8BC4B5.A.A$15.6B9.9B5.8B3C5B5.2A$15.6B
10.6B6.17B$16.5B11.6B6.15B$16.6B5.2B.B.9B4.13B$15.6B4.13BD20B4.2A$15.
7B2.13B2D21B2.A.A$16.6B2.12B2D12B.9B2.A$16.7B.13BD22B.2A$15.23BD22B$
15.46B$14.47B$10.B3.15B2.29B$9.2AB.15B4.7B.2D19B$9.2A18B4.4B5.18B$10.
B.3B2A12B5.5B3.18B$13.2B2A11B9.2A4.16B$14.2B2.10B9.A8.13B$13.2B3.6B.B
12.3A5.9B.2B$12.B2AB2.4B18.A5.9B2.2B$13.2A3.2B2AB22.10B.B2AB$20.2A23.
7B5.2A$45.7B$46.8B$47.B2.4B$49.B2A2B$50.2A.B2A$53.BA.A$56.A$56.2A!

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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by C28 » February 7th, 2026, 11:33 pm

any way to catalyze the pi to restore the block?

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x = 4, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2obo$o$3o8$2o$2o5$2b2o$2b2o!
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by Anivec » March 17th, 2026, 6:15 pm

How does one get the block back?

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x = 37, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
4bo$5bo$3b3o2$31bo$2o28bobo$bo28bobo$bobo25b2ob3o$2b2o31bo$29b2ob3o$29b
2obo3$27b2o$26bo2bo6bo$26bobo5b3o$27bo5bo$16b2o15b2o$16b2o12bo$29bobo
$25bob3obo$25b2o4bobo$28b4ob3o$25b2obo3bo3bo$25bo2bobobo2b2o$27b2ob2o
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Re: Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

Post by wwei47 » May 3rd, 2026, 11:47 am

Hold on; an eater snake thing can also do the thing with the switch engine???

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x = 70, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12b2o5$6b3o2$6bo3bo9b2o$7b4o9b2o$10bo6$28b2o$28b2o3$2o$2o36b2o$
38bo$39bo$38b2o$37bo$37b3o$40bo$8b2o29b2o$8b2o36b2o$46bo$47bo$46b2o$45b
o$45b3o$48bo$16b2o29b2o$16b2o3$52b2o$52b2o3$24b2o$24b2o3$60b2o$60b2o3$
32b2o$32b2o3$68b2o$68b2o3$40b2o$40b2o7$48b2o$48b2o!
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