Yes. There are five 3:3 variants in the updated table lower down  and even a single 3blocksto4gliders reaction, which I've started playing around with for use in selfdestruct circuitry. I'm afraid I'm just greedily wondering if there are any more 3:3s or 3:4s out there  or even a 3:5 reaction, while I'm wishing...!codeholic wrote:Actually they are already listed in knightlife's post here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1065
Blockic Seeds
Re: Blockic Seeds
Re: Blockic Seeds
I'm not sure exactly why knightlife's fifth 3:3 splitter variant didn't show up in gencols results. But gencols appended a mysterious suffix to every line of my search results: " not_shown 15 other". The "15" changes to "20" if I try to filter for 20cell output.
I'm just using "filt a leq 15 geq 15" in the batch file, instead of "filt a leq 10 geq 10". So this "not_shown" message may be a sign that I'm doing something wrong with the parameters and leaving out lots of results, but I haven't figured out yet what the problem could be.
Here's the Python script I used for postprocessing. With more tweaking it could quite possibly dig up other interesting things, like reactions that transform pureBlockic constellations into other pureBlockic constellations, with or without output gliders  e.g., 5b2o$5b2o5bo$12bobo$12b2o2$6b2o$6b2o3$2o$2o!
3blocksparser.py  'x' exits, 'c' continues
[this code is neither userfriendly nor efficient, just the first thing that worked 
edit to match paths, filenames, and gencols output file content on your system]
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# gencols 3blocks.bat output parser
import golly as g
g.setrule("Life")
INIfilename="C:/gencols/glsplit/result.col"
try:
f = open(INIfilename, 'r')
all = f.readlines()
f.close()
except:
g.exit("Failed to load number of ticks from config file: " + INIfilename)
count=0
for s in all:
count+=1
if count%50==0:
g.show(str(count))
g.update()
g.new("Test"+str(count))
pat=g.parse(s.replace("! not_shown 15 other",'').replace('!','$').replace('.','b').replace('*','o')+'!')
g.putcells(pat)
g.run(1024)
pos1=g.getcells(g.getrect())
pop1=int(g.getpop())
g.run(32) # run far enough that even an HWSS won't overlap itself
pop2=int(g.getpop())
g.putcells(pos1)
if int(g.getpop())==pop1+pop2 and pop1>0:
g.new("Result"+str(count))
g.putcells(pat)
g.show("Found match at line#" + str(count))
g.fit()
g.update()
while 1:
k=g.getkey()
if k=='x':
g.exit()
if k!='':
break
lastpat=pat
g.new("Last found")
g.putcells(lastpat)
Re: Blockic Seeds
That confusing "not_shown" refers merely to the fact, that the final pattern is not being displayed in certain types of searches: https://github.com/codeholic/gencols/bl ... put.c#L113dvgrn wrote:I'm just using "filt a leq 15 geq 15" in the batch file, instead of "filt a leq 10 geq 10". So this "not_shown" message may be a sign that I'm doing something wrong with the parameters and leaving out lots of results, but I haven't figured out yet what the problem could be.
Re: Blockic Seeds
Ah, right, so "not_shown 15 other" isn't really saying there's anything missing; it just meanscodeholic wrote:That confusing "not_shown" refers merely to the fact, that the final pattern is not being displayed in certain types of searches...
"Final pattern not shown",
"15 ON cells in the output", and
"output object period is something other than 1, 2, 3, or 4" (I think).
I should also mention that it's been a while since I last tried to compile gencols, and I had the usual silly problems getting a working gencols.exe out of any of my C/C++ compilers. This time actually wasn't too bad: the only problems were that I was using Visual C++ 2010 Express... so the C compiler is 'cl' rather than 'gcc' in the makefile, and by default it produced object files with an .obj instead of an .o extension, which meant the makefile was pointing to the wrong object filenames.
Doesn't seem like anyone has posted a gencols.exe Windows executable anywhere on the Internet yet (!?) so I'll attach a copy of the whole folder here in case anyone wants it: I've just noticed that the only object my postfilter script reports for N=25 is the following:
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x = 10, y = 15, rule = Life
6b2o$6b2o7$b2o4bo$b2o4bobo$7b2o3$2o$2o!
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Re: Blockic Seeds
Code: Select all
x = 18, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16b2o$bo$2bo7b2o$3o7b2o5$16b2o$16b2o5$9b2o$9b2o!
EDIT:
Catalyst version:
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x = 18, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$15b2o2$bo$2bo7b2o$3o7b2o5$16b2o$16b2o5$9b2o$9b2o!

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Re: Blockic Seeds
This morning I found another H + block reaction that can be used in a slightly different 3:4 recipe:dvgrn wrote:Yes. There are five 3:3 variants in the updated table lower down  and even a single 3blocksto4gliders reaction, which I've started playing around with for use in selfdestruct circuitry. I'm afraid I'm just greedily wondering if there are any more 3:3s or 3:4s out there  or even a 3:5 reaction, while I'm wishing...!codeholic wrote:Actually they are already listed in knightlife's post here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1065
Code: Select all
x = 87, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
6.A79.A$4.A.A77.A.A$4.3A77.3A$4.A79.A6$2A$2A4$78.2A$78.2A!
Code: Select all
x = 87, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
6.A79.A$4.A.A77.A.A$4.3A77.3A$4.A79.A6$2A$2A4$78.2A$78.2A!
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Re: Blockic Seeds
That's the same RLE as the previous one.knightlife wrote:Here is an updated table with the two 3:4s and a 7:11 found earlier.Code: Select all
x = 87, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory 6.A79.A$4.A.A77.A.A$4.3A77.3A$4.A79.A6$2A$2A4$78.2A$78.2A!
Re: Blockic Seeds
Code: Select all
#CXRLE Pos=28,1 Gen=28
x = 16, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$14b2o$8bo$6bobo$2o5b2o$2o10b2o$12b2o2$4b2o$4b2o!

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Re: Blockic Seeds
My mistakeExtrementhusiast wrote:That's the same RLE as the previous one.knightlife wrote:Here is an updated table with the two 3:4s and a 7:11 found earlier.Code: Select all
x = 87, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory 6.A79.A$4.A.A77.A.A$4.3A77.3A$4.A79.A6$2A$2A4$78.2A$78.2A!
Here is the blockic splitter table:
Code: Select all
x = 2477, y = 955, rule = LifeHistory
2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A67.2A580.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A8.4A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A
2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A67.2A580.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A8.A2.A61.A79.A$
2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A649.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A8.A2.
A62.A79.A$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A649.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A8.4A60.3A77.3A
3$14.4A8.4A20.4A103.2A556.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A$14.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A103.2A
556.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A$14.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A661.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A8.
A2.A$14.4A8.4A20.4A661.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A$325.2A$325.2A$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A
2.4A2.4A649.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.
A2.A302.2A345.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A
20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A302.2A345.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A$2.4A
2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A202.2A445.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A$116.2A33.2A
103.2A83.2A$116.2A33.2A108.3A7.2A68.2A476.D19.2A58.D19.2A$14.4A8.4A
20.4A207.A9.2A442.4A8.4A20.4A62.D.D19.2A56.D.D19.2A$14.A2.A8.A2.A20.A
2.A208.A452.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A62.3D77.3D$14.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A186.2A
106.3A364.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A62.D79.D$14.4A8.4A20.4A64.2A33.2A85.2A106.
A366.4A8.4A20.4A$118.A.A32.A.A193.A$118.A34.A$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.
4A649.4A2.4A2.4A32.4A79.2A78.2A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A
649.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A32.A2.A79.2A78.2A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A
2.A2.A649.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A32.A2.A58.2A$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A649.
4A2.4A2.4A32.4A58.2A4$118.2A33.2A736.2A$118.2A33.2A736.2A26$256.2A$
256.2A$261.3A7.2A$261.A9.2A$262.A2$246.2A$246.2A65$234.2A$234.2A$341.
2A$341.2A$107.2A132.3D$107.2A133.D$242.3D103.3D98.2A$349.D99.2A$114.
3D232.3D$115.D$115.3D117.2A219.3D101.A$235.2A220.D101.A$457.3D99.3A$
544.2A$340.2A202.2A$2.4A8.4A20.4A8.4A286.2A$2.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A8.A2.A
$2.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A8.A2.A395.2A$2.4A8.4A20.4A8.4A395.2A99.3D$108.2A
440.D.D$108.2A440.D.D$2.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A508.2A$2.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A8.
A2.A8.A2.A508.2A$2.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A497.2A$2.4A8.4A8.4A8.
4A8.4A185.2A310.2A$239.2A$346.2A$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A292.2A$2.A
2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A58.2A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A
2.A2.A2.A58.2A$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A400.2A97.3D$454.2A99.D$554.3D
$14.4A8.4A20.4A$14.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A$14.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A508.2A$14.4A
8.4A20.4A508.2A3$14.4A32.4A187.2A$14.A2.A32.A2.A187.2A$14.A2.A32.A2.A
294.2A$14.4A32.4A294.2A$114.2A$114.2A$456.2A$456.2A7$264.3A$264.A$
265.A105.3A$371.A$137.3A232.A$137.A$138.A340.3A$479.A$480.A77$235.2A$
235.2A2$836.D$234.2A584.2A14.D.D$234.2A584.2A14.3D$838.D2$2.4A2.4A2.
4A20.4A2.4A2.4A649.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A577.4A2.4A2.4A18.4A2.4A2.4A
$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A649.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A
2.A2.A2.A577.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A18.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A
20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A649.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A386.A190.A
2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A18.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A649.4A2.
4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A61.2A322.A191.4A2.4A2.4A18.4A2.4A2.4A54.2A$816.2A
23.2A297.3A293.2A$841.2A$2.4A20.4A8.4A661.4A20.4A8.4A589.4A20.4A18.4A
$2.A2.A20.A2.A8.A2.A661.A2.A20.A2.A8.A2.A203.2A94.2A102.2A184.A2.A20.
A2.A18.A2.A$2.A2.A20.A2.A8.A2.A661.A2.A20.A2.A8.A2.A203.2A94.2A102.2A
184.A2.A20.A2.A18.A2.A$2.4A20.4A8.4A661.4A20.4A8.4A589.4A20.4A18.4A$
109.2A$109.2A125.2A900.3D$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A182.2A465.4A2.4A2.
4A20.4A2.4A2.4A384.D192.4A2.4A2.4A30.4A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A
2.A2.A2.A649.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A382.3D192.A2.A2.A2.A
2.A2.A30.A2.A60.2A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A649.A2.A2.A2.
A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A577.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A30.A2.A60.2A$2.4A2.4A2.
4A20.4A2.4A2.4A649.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A66.2A509.4A2.4A2.4A30.4A$
117.2A702.2A$117.2A927.2A$14.4A8.4A20.4A661.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A291.2A296.
4A8.4A18.4A$14.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A661.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A589.A2.A8.A
2.A18.A2.A$14.A2.A8.A2.A20.A2.A661.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A8.A2.A589.A2.A8.A
2.A18.A2.A$14.4A8.4A20.4A661.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A191.2A396.4A8.4A18.4A42.2A
$946.2A476.2A2$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A45.2A602.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A
2.4A577.4A2.4A2.4A30.4A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A45.2A
158.3A441.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A273.2A302.A2.A2.A2.A2.A
2.A30.A2.A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A205.A443.A2.A2.A2.A2.
A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A273.2A302.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A30.A2.A66.2A$2.4A2.
4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A206.A442.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A577.4A2.4A2.4A30.
4A66.2A$1152.2A274.D34.2A$123.2A803.2A222.2A274.3D32.2A$123.2A698.2A
103.2A122.2A374.D.D24.3A$103.D34.2A683.2A227.2A376.D24.A$103.3D32.2A
892.D34.2A34.2A19.D331.A$103.D.D24.3A899.3D32.2A34.2A19.D.D$105.D24.A
821.2A78.D.D24.3A62.3D$131.A820.2A80.D24.A66.D$932.D34.2A91.A72.2A$
214.2A716.3D32.2A164.2A$214.2A716.D.D24.3A$934.D24.A148.2A$960.A147.
2A3$241.2A$241.2A603.3A$846.A$847.A66$1459.2A$1459.2A$816.2A$703.4A2.
4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A61.2A514.4A2.4A2.4A18.4A2.4A2.4A$703.A2.A2.A2.A2.A
2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A82.2A493.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A18.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A69.
3D$703.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A82.2A72.2A419.A2.A2.A2.A2.A
2.A18.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A70.D$703.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A45.A110.2A419.
4A2.4A2.4A18.4A2.4A2.4A68.3D$801.A$799.3A$703.4A21.4A19.4A577.4A19.4A
7.4A8.4A$703.A2.A21.A2.A19.A2.A192.2A383.A2.A19.A2.A7.A2.A8.A2.A$703.
A2.A21.A2.A19.A2.A87.2A103.2A383.A2.A19.A2.A7.A2.A8.A2.A$703.4A21.4A
19.4A87.2A488.4A19.4A7.4A8.4A$450.A$449.A$449.3A251.4A2.4A2.4A32.4A
577.4A2.4A2.4A18.4A2.4A2.4A$703.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A32.A2.A577.A2.A2.A2.A
2.A2.A18.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A$103.A599.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A32.A2.A577.A2.A2.A
2.A2.A2.A18.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A$104.A134.A463.4A2.4A2.4A32.4A577.4A2.4A
2.4A18.4A2.4A2.4A62.2A$102.3A135.A1203.2A$238.3A110.2A$351.2A64.2A
284.4A8.4A9.4A19.4A577.4A8.4A7.4A7.4A8.4A$417.2A284.A2.A8.A2.A9.A2.A
19.A2.A68.2A507.A2.A8.A2.A7.A2.A7.A2.A8.A2.A$703.A2.A8.A2.A9.A2.A19.A
2.A68.2A507.A2.A8.A2.A7.A2.A7.A2.A8.A2.A$341.2A360.4A8.4A9.4A19.4A
577.4A8.4A7.4A7.4A8.4A72.2A$341.2A1111.2A$453.2A$453.2A248.4A2.4A2.4A
32.4A172.D404.4A2.4A2.4A18.4A2.4A2.4A$703.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A32.A2.A148.
A23.D.D402.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A18.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A$703.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A
32.A2.A63.2A73.2A9.A22.3D402.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A18.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A$222.
2A479.4A2.4A2.4A32.4A63.2A73.2A7.3A24.D402.4A2.4A2.4A18.4A2.4A2.4A$
210.2A10.2A573.2A109.2A$210.2A585.2A109.2A526.2A$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.
4A2.4A301.2A591.2A486.2A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A301.2A
591.2A$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.
4A867.2A$921.2A537.2A$214.D21.2A1222.2A$2.4A20.4A8.4A172.3D19.2A1202.
D34.2A$2.A2.A20.A2.A8.A2.A172.D.D1223.3D32.2A$2.A2.A20.A2.A8.A2.A174.
D120.2A1101.D.D24.3A$2.4A20.4A8.4A76.2A113.2A102.2A1103.D24.A$118.2A
16.2A95.2A177.2A19.D1034.A$136.2A134.2A138.2A19.D.D$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A
2.4A2.4A218.2A159.3D$2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A307.2A72.D$
2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A307.2A$2.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A2.4A2.4A
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4A69.2A290.4A10.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A10.4A8.4A105.2A$1650.2A375.2A$1533.2A
136.2A354.2A$684.4A10.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A16.4A557.4A10.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A22.4A
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4A8.4A22.4A199.D161.4A10.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A10.4A8.4A95.2A$826.2A626.2A19.
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838.2A712.D85.2A32.3D216.D34.2A167.2A233.2A$684.4A10.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A
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4A22.4A55.3D32.2A269.4A10.4A8.4A8.4A8.4A22.4A$684.A2.A10.A2.A8.A2.A8.
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4A8.4A22.4A83.2A$862.2A668.A28.2A$877.2A662.2A18.2A$684.4A10.4A2.4A2.
4A20.4A16.4A119.2A436.4A10.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A10.4A2.4A2.4A146.2A213.4A
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2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A193.2A166.A2.A10.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A20.A2.A22.A2.A$684.4A
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4A10.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A10.4A2.4A2.4A361.4A10.4A2.4A2.4A20.4A22.4A$1454.
2A$1454.2A645.2A233.2A19.2A$1927.2A107.2A63.2A233.2A19.2A$1558.2A367.
2A107.2A43.D34.2A$1558.2A99.2A420.3D32.2A$1478.2A179.2A420.D.D24.3A$
1478.2A603.D24.A$1458.D34.2A614.A$1458.3D32.2A$1458.D.D24.3A$1460.D
24.A423.2A$1486.A422.2A431.2A$2342.2A2$1665.2A$1665.2A266.2A$1933.2A$
1913.D34.2A$1913.3D32.2A$1913.D.D24.3A$1915.D24.A$1941.A!
x = 5, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2bo$bobo$o3bo$bobo$2bo3$3b2o$2b2o$3bo!

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Re: Blockic Seeds
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x = 80, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
bo59bo$2bo59bo$3o57b3o9$7b2o2b2o54b2o2b2o$7b2o2b2o54b2o2b2o2$19b2o$19b
2o3$10b2o58b2o$10b2o58b2o7$78b2o$78b2o!
The smallest blockic seeds for standard spaceships, as far as I know:
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x = 228, y = 207, rule = LifeHistory
.D9.D7.D3.6D4.6D$.D9.D7.D3.D9.D$.D9.D7.D3.D9.D80.A$.D9.D7.D3.D9.D81.A
92.A$.D9.D3.D3.D3.6D4.6D74.3A93.A$.D9.D3.D3.D3.6D4.6D168.3A$.D9.D3.D
3.D8.D9.D86.2A$.D9.D2.D.D2.D8.D9.D86.2A$.6D4.4D.4D8.D9.D$.6D5.2D3.2D
4.6D4.6D5$214.2A2.2A$214.2A2.2A2$133.2A91.2A$133.2A91.2A2$127.2A$127.
2A88.2A$217.2A67$118.A5.2A$.2D3.2D3.D7.D3.6D4.6D80.A4.2A$4D.4D2.D7.D
3.D9.D83.3A$D2.D.D2.D2.D7.D3.D9.D184.2A$D3.D3.D2.D7.D3.D9.D184.2A$D3.
D3.D2.D3.D3.D3.6D4.6D164.A$D3.D3.D2.D3.D3.D3.6D4.6D85.2A78.A7.2A$D7.D
2.D3.D3.D8.D9.D79.2A4.2A76.3A7.2A$D7.D2.D2.D.D2.D8.D9.D79.2A$D7.D2.4D
.4D8.D9.D$D7.D3.2D3.2D4.6D4.6D2$218.2A$218.2A5$211.2A$211.2A57$104.A$
105.A$103.3A11$109.2A13.2A$109.2A13.2A$.D4.D4.D7.D3.6D4.6D$.D4.D4.D7.
D3.D9.D$.D4.D4.D7.D3.D9.D99.2A$.D4.D4.D7.D3.D9.D99.2A$.6D4.D3.D3.D3.
6D4.6D$.6D4.D3.D3.D3.6D4.6D$.D4.D4.D3.D3.D8.D9.D$.D4.D4.D2.D.D2.D8.D
9.D$.D4.D4.4D.4D8.D9.D$.D4.D5.2D3.2D4.6D4.6D$131.2A$131.2A2$111.2A$
111.2A6$125.2A$125.2A4$115.2A$115.2A!
Re: Blockic Seeds
EDIT: Shame on me not to have thought about gemini. I guess it would be possible to create a (incredibly large) blockishandblockish seed for it.
Loafin' ships eaten with a knife!
Re: Blockic Seeds
Anything that has a glider construction could have a Blockicseed equivalent, if anyone were interested in stringing one together. That means any *WSS, pretty much any Cordership  they mostly seem to be fairly straightforward to gliderconstruct, one way or another  and quite a number of composite c/2 objects that are not simply flotillas of *WSSes, such as the p20 "ecologist". Actual seeds have been constructed only for the loafer and the *WSSes, and the loafer seed is a fairly primitive effort.towerator wrote:I'm wondering how many spaceships have a blockish seed. Outside the XWSS, I know that the loafer has a glidersplit based seed, but what about the others?
Sad to say, I think there's just one other speed of spaceship, the 2c/5, with a known glider construction that could theoretically be blockified. But it would be many times bigger than the loafer seed. People used to talk about constructing a Caterpillar  some of the synchronization problems are spectacularly unpleasant, but not really impossible. But a Blockic Caterpillar seed is on the same order of unreasonableness as a Gemini seed.
I'm still expecting someone to synthesize something like a dart or a weekender, any weekend now  but no luck yet... Seems pretty unlikely that anyone will turn up a Blockic seed for a previously unbuildable spaceship, even with a Gluelike search program to enumerate and test small constellations. The seeds are certainly out there somewhere, but the search tree is much too large and hard to prune. Never know until you try, though!

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Re: Blockic Seeds
Seems like you would need better than 2:1 ratio splitters or a way to make extra gliders (Herschels or guns) unless there is a small constellation that can do it (you can get 4 blocks from 2 blocks but the patterns are not replicas).
I am collecting blockic patterns that increase in size when hit by a glider but there are no striking results.
Here is a 5block seed that makes a backward MWSS and two forward gliders as well:
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x = 58, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o7$50b2o$50b2o8$52b2o$52b2o2$56b2o$56b2o14$27b2o$27b2o2$35b2o$
35b2o!
EDIT:
The 2 to 4 block example (double = highest ratio?):
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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o$6b2o$6b2o4$4b2o$4b2o!
Re: Blockic Seeds
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x = 145, y = 189, rule = B3/S23
58bo$57bo$57b3o50$9b2o$9b2o3$10b2o$10b2o5$3o$2bo$bo122$142b3o$142bo$
143bo!
Yes, I'm not too hopeful that there's an interesting Blockic replicator out there. They certainly exist, in the usual sense of "a universal computerconstructor could do that", but UCCs need enough handwaving already without the extra requirement of having some stage of replication be a Blockic seed. Or if we discount a UCCbased solution, gliders will always be needed to trigger the replication process, and it's not clear where those would come from  or what would happen when the replication inevitably runs out of space.knightlife wrote:How about a blockic replicator? Make two piles from one pile of blocks and a glider...
Seems like you would need better than 2:1 ratio splitters or a way to make extra gliders (Herschels or guns) unless there is a small constellation that can do it (you can get 4 blocks from 2 blocks but the patterns are not replicas).
I just fired up the Seeds of Destruction game to make a nice little sample of the way I'm visualizing the problem. The pattern below uses the block pair from Lumps of Muck. Just pretend that a hypothetical Blockic replicator has just one input glider as a trigger, instead of the glider pair I have here:
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x = 136, y = 143, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o4$16bo$17bo$15b3o51$66b2o$66b2o3$67b2o$63b2o2b2o$62bobo$64bo
13$57b2o$56bobo$58bo53$118b3o$118bo$119bo4$133b3o$133bo$134bo!
Short of a proper billionrecord "Blockic fluff relay" database (and more importantly, some good search code to make all the connections between the records) I don't really see a good way to get started on this problem. It might be possible to find a cyclic chain of block fields that get transformed into each other when you hit them with gliders, and even to get some gliders out in the process  it just seems like a really unlikely project to get the input and output gliders to line up.knightlife wrote:I am collecting blockic patterns that increase in size when hit by a glider but there are no striking results.

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Re: Blockic Seeds
I agree, but I was thinking of "duplicator" I guess, not "replicator" as in "Highlife replicator". Your halfLOM duplicator is an example of what I was thinking of (if one glider was sufficient instead of two). I'm thinking of something short of a UCCbased pattern!dvgrn wrote:Yes, I'm not too hopeful that there's an interesting Blockic replicator out there
I'm not intending to start on a large project, just wondering if it is even possible. Actually, I am planning to do more programming and less "manual" experimenting when my work schedule is less demanding. Right now, it's fun to play in the sandbox!
I like the "blockic fluff" idea. This is the first blockic seed I have found that increases the number of blocks and outputs more than one glider:
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x = 34, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
32bo$31bo$31b3o12$2o$2o9$20b2o$b2o17b2o$b2o3$7b2o$7b2o!
EDIT:
Another blockic doubler (not duplicator):
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x = 23, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17b2o3$2o$2o3$20b2o$20b2o11$20b2o$20bobo$20bo!

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Re: Blockic Seeds
Actually it is easy with the help of a Herschel:knightlife wrote:I like the "blockic fluff" idea. This is the first blockic seed I have found that increases the number of blocks and outputs more than one glider:
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x = 42, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
17.A$18.A$16.3A14$20.D19.2A$18.D.D19.2A$18.3D$18.D2$2A$2A$35.2A$35.2A
!
Of course, the search space is much greater for a blockic splitter if leftover blocks are allowed:
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x = 21, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
7.2A$7.2A3$14.3D$15.D$15.3D12$19.2A$19.2A4$2.A$3A$A.A$A!
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x = 42, y = 57, rule = LifeHistory
17.A$18.A$16.3A14$20.D19.2A$18.D.D19.2A$18.3D$18.D4$2A33.2A$2A33.2A
12$3.3D$5.D$4.3D17$8.2A$8.2A!
Re: Blockic Seeds
Even without a Herschel the search space is huge and full of options:knightlife wrote:Actually it is easy with the help of a Herschel...knightlife wrote:I like the "blockic fluff" idea. This is the first blockic seed I have found that increases the number of blocks and outputs more than one glider:
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x = 38, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20b2o8b2o$30b2o6$15b2o$15b2o$35b3o$35bo$36bo10$2o$2o4$2b2o$2b2o!
EDIT: It's too hard to choose among all the possibilities:
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x = 43, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
41b2o$41b2o2$19b2o$19b2o2$2o$2o33b2o$35b2o$21b3o$21bo$22bo!
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#C G+10B4>3G+20B4
x = 66, y = 101, rule = LifeHistory
56.2A$56.2A18$17.2A$17.2A6$2.2A$2.2A60.2A$64.2A5$29.2A$29.2A16$8.2A$
8.2A34$24.2A$24.2A2$8.2A$2A6.2A$2A$15.2A$15.2A6$15.3A$15.A$16.A!
Re: Blockic Seeds
Absolutely... though the number of false positives goes up fast as you have more blocks and gliders in the output. It probably makes sense to produce a huge output file with gencols  all G+3B4 or G+4B4 within a certain range, let's say, with a twodigit final population  and then chew through it with a Gollyscript postprocessor, throwing out every final result with an object that isn't a block or a glider. The good ones can go into files according to their numbers  "3B4+2G.txt", etc.  and we'll see how good they get.knightlife wrote:This is the first blockic seed I have found that increases the number of blocks and outputs more than one glider... Can gencols find something like this? Especially if number of output blocks is the same as the number of input blocks (and at least one glider output).
I have some objectrecognition code that should work pretty well to do the postprocessing, though it will take a while. In the long run I'm actually not so interested in maximizing the number of blocks  I don't have much use for lots of randomly spaced blocks. I'd rather look for possible cycles where the output of one reaction matches the input of another... but I'm not sure I'll be writing that search code any time soon!
What I'm most immediately interested in right now is slow blockplusNglider salvos that produce small constellations of blocks, plus maybe an outlying piece of junk or two. There's a lot of potential for speeding up the construction of Blockic seeds for LWSSes or loafers or what have you, by building the blocks two or three at a time instead of individually:
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#C LWSSN:E9 E29 E23 E17 E17 O41 O35 O15 E23 E27 E47 E23 E25
#C O19 O45 O13 O7 O19 E23
#C 19glider slowsalvo recipe by h4tter, 15 September 2013
x = 2711, y = 2723, rule = LifeHistory
2E$2E19$24.3A$24.A$25.A148$184.3A$184.A$185.A148$331.3A$331.A$332.A
148$478.3A$478.A$479.A148$628.3A$628.A$629.A148$791.2A$790.2A$792.A
148$938.2A$937.2A$939.A148$1078.2A$1077.2A$1079.A148$1231.3A$1231.A$
1232.A148$1383.3A$1383.A$1384.A148$1543.3A$1543.A$1544.A148$1681.3A$
1681.A$1682.A148$1832.3A$1832.A$1833.A148$1980.2A$1979.2A$1981.A148$
2143.2A$2142.2A$2144.A148$2277.2A$2276.2A$2278.A148$2417.2A$2416.2A$
2418.A148$2580.2A$2579.2A$2581.A148$2708.3A$2708.A$2709.A!

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Re: Blockic Seeds
There has to be a blockic spaceship out there, where one phase of the spaceship is just G + nb4!dvgrn wrote:Even without a Herschel the search space is huge and full of options:
(Two or more seeds with a single glider reflecting from seed to seed, moving the blocks)
EDIT:
I know that idea is not new!
But...
All of the blocks would have to move in the same direction...
That hardly ever happens...
Re: Blockic Seeds
Did you get past a 2:1 ratio yet? There are other twoblock Herschel seeds that are more prolific than the one in the standard 3:4 splitter, at least in terms of blocks if not output gliders. Here's a 5B:12B+7G, and I'm sure it can be improved further (depending on whether you want more blocks or more gliders!):knightlife wrote:Actually it is easy with the help of a Herschel:
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x = 50, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
16.2A$16.2A9$48.2A$48.2A15$7.2A$7.2A9$2A$2A10$45.2A$45.2A$26.3A$26.A$
27.A!
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gencols pat obj/block.life obj/glider_sw.life tc 10 10 > glsplit/g1b.col
gencols pat glsplit/g1b.col obj/block.life tc 10 20 > glsplit/g2b.col
gencols pat glsplit/g2b.col obj/block.life tc 10 30 > glsplit/g3b.col
gencols pat glsplit/g3b.col obj/block.life tc 10 40 gen 512 leq 99 > glsplit/result_4b.col
I'm assuming I probably won't miss anything by filtering out final populations of 100 or greater, and it will keep the file size down and reduce the postprocessing time  though it would be a shame if there is something good up at higher populations, and it gets thrown out...!
There's a much larger search space available; changing the 20, 30, 40 to (say) 30, 50, 70 would probably run for a couple of days on my laptop, and produce a very large output file. It might also be worth moving the gen parameter even higher, to make sure that patterns finish settling  we'll see if there's a significant problem at 512.
EDIT 2: Recognition code seems to be working now. I'm still adding a few unusual ash objects to my library as they crop up in the postprocessing. Here's a Blockic paperclip seed, for example, with a hand block left over to continue a construction:
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x = 14, y = 16, rule = Life
6b2o$6b2o$2o$2o4$2o$2o3$11b2o$11bobo$11bo$3b2o$3b2o!
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x = 52, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o6b2o$8b2o$4b2o$4b2o$8b2o$8b2o7$12b2o$12b2o6b2o$20b2o$16b2o$16b2o$
20b2o$20b2o7$24b2o$24b2o6b2o$32b2o$28b2o$28b2o$32b2o$32b2o7$36b2o$36b
2o6b2o$44b2o$40b2o$40b2o$44b2o3b3o$44b2o3bo$50bo!
Re: Blockic Seeds
Unfortunately  at least with this relatively short 20/30/40 run of gencols  the pure glider generators top out at just a few constellations with a 4B:3G ratio:dvgrn wrote:Recognition code seems to be working now...
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x = 113, y = 122, rule = B3/S23
54b2o$54b2o2$103b2o$103b2o4$98b2o$98b2o2$8bo43b2o4bo43b2o4bo$8bobo36b
2o3b2o4bobo41b2o4bobo$8b2o37b2o9b2o48b2o$2b2o$2b2o47b2o48b2o$51b2o48b
2o3$2o$2o11b2o$6b2o5b2o$6b2o81$5b2o$5b2o$55b2o49b2o$55b2o49b2o3$50b2o
49b2o$50b2o49b2o$8bo49bo50bo$8bobo47bobo48bobo$8b2o42b2o4b2o43b2o4b2o$
2b2o48b2o49b2o$2b2o3$16b2o$2o14b2o$2o58b2o49b2o$60b2o49b2o!
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x = 145, y = 274, rule = B3/S23
79b2o$79b2o11bo$92bobo45b2o$86b2o4b2o46b2o$86b2o3$82b2o$82b2o9b2o$93b
2o41b2o$30b2o104b2o$22bo7b2o110bo$22bobo117bobo$16b2o4b2o112b2o4b2o$
16b2o118b2o2$132b2o$27b2o103b2o$16b2o9b2o$16b2o112$12bo79bo$2o4b2o4bob
o65b2o4b2o4bobo$2o4b2o4b2o66b2o4b2o4b2o3$5b2o78b2o$5b2o78b2o2$9b2o78b
2o$9b2o78b2o120$47b2o$47b2o$52bo$52bobo$52b2o2$46b2o$46b2o4$46b2o$46b
2o3b2o$51b2o!
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x = 145, y = 274, rule = B3/S23
79b2o$79b2o11bo$92bobo45b2o$86b2o4b2o46b2o$86b2o3$82b2o$82b2o9b2o$93b
2o41b2o$30b2o104b2o$22bo7b2o110bo$22bobo117bobo$16b2o4b2o112b2o4b2o$
16b2o118b2o2$132b2o$27b2o103b2o$16b2o9b2o$16b2o105$12bo79bo$2o4b2o4bob
o65b2o4b2o4bobo$2o4b2o4b2o66b2o4b2o4b2o3$5b2o78b2o$5b2o78b2o2$9b2o78b
2o$9b2o78b2o127$47b2o$47b2o$52bo$52bobo$52b2o2$46b2o$46b2o4$46b2o$46b
2o3b2o$51b2o!
EDIT: With three blocks, the best glider generators are G+3B4 > 5G+2B4:
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x = 60, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
8b2o48b2o$8b2o48b2o4$2o48b2o$2o48b2o5$57bo$57bobo$57b2o$51b2o$b2o48b2o
$b2o$7b2o$7bobo$7bo!
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x = 139, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
77b2o$77b2o$6bo9b2o48bo63b2o4bo$6bobo7b2o48bobo61b2o4bobo$6b2o58b2o68b
2o$2o58b2o$2o58b2o$20b2o$20b2o$127b2o$77b2o48b2o$77b2o6$124b2o$124b2o!
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 Blockic results from a reduced gencols search (20/30/40) with a glider hitting four blocks
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Re: Blockic Seeds
I had a design for such a spaceship, where n is very large (but possibly smaller than an ordinary universal constructor). The spaceship features a Blockic seed for a convoy of 2c/4 spaceships, which move eastwards. A line of nonuniformly positioned blocks act as 'data' for the convoy, which interact with the spaceships to produce NWdirected gliders and the original blocks, displaced by a small vector x.There has to be a blockic spaceship out there, where one phase of the spaceship is just G + nb4!
(Two or more seeds with a single glider reflecting from seed to seed, moving the blocks)
There are several copies of this, producing NWdirected gliders on sufficiently many lanes to produce slow salvos capable of moving blocks (with overall displacement x) and emitting SWdirected gliders. These gliders are themselves a slow salvo, which reconstruct the original Blockic seeds (again, displaced by x) and ultimately trigger the seed, completing the cycle.
Believe it or not, this was very similar to Paul Callahan's original 1994 design for a stable reflector (where x = (0,0)).
Re: Blockic Seeds
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gencols pat obj/block.life obj/glider_sw.life tc 10 10 > glsplit/g3a.col
gencols pat glsplit/g3a.col obj/block.life tc 10 70 > glsplit/g3b.col
gencols pat glsplit/g3b.col obj/block.life tc 10 70 gen 512 leq 99 > glsplit/g3c.col
pause
Is this G+3B>4G+B known? Seems like a good candidate for chaining together a new record Blockic splitter, since the extra block can likely be reused somehow:
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x = 19, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o2$17b2o$17b2o3$11b2o$11b2o!
Here's the report for twoblock collisions. No big surprises here, I think:
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gencols pat obj/block.life obj/glider_sw.life tc 10 10 > glsplit/g2a.col
gencols pat glsplit/g2a.col obj/block.life tc 10 190 gen 1024 leq 99 > glsplit/g2b.col
107: block glider: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o4$6b2o$6b2o$!
95: block++ glider: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o3$b2o$b2o$!
275: block+++++: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o2$16b2o$16b2o$!
325: block+++++: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o2$18b2o$18b2o$!
287: block+++++: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o3$16b2o$16b2o$!
271: block+++++: 6bo$6bobo7b2o$6b2o8b2o$2o$2o$!
319: block+++++: 6bo$6bobo9b2o$6b2o10b2o$2o$2o$!
286: block+++++: 6bo9b2o$6bobo7b2o$6b2o$2o$2o$!
102: block+++: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o4$2b2o$2b2o$!
1694: block+: 10b2o4bo$10b2o4bobo$16b2o20$2o$2o$!
1622: block+: 10b2o4bo$10b2o4bobo$16b2o9$2o$2o$!
1407: block+: 10bo$10bobo$4b2o4b2o$4b2o$2o$2o$!
1402: block+: 10bo$2o8bobo$2o2b2o4b2o$4b2o$!
1632: block+: 11b2o4bo$11b2o4bobo$17b2o10$2o$2o$!
1710: block+: 11b2o4bo$11b2o4bobo$17b2o21$2o$2o$!
1645: block+: 12b2o4bo$12b2o4bobo$18b2o11$2o$2o$!
1720: block+: 12b2o4bo$12b2o4bobo$18b2o22$2o$2o$!
1658: block+: 13b2o4bo$13b2o4bobo$19b2o12$2o$2o$!
1736: block+: 13b2o4bo$13b2o4bobo$19b2o23$2o$2o$!
1672: block+: 14b2o4bo$14b2o4bobo$20b2o13$2o$2o$!
1753: block+: 14b2o4bo$14b2o4bobo$20b2o24$2o$2o$!
1687: block+: 15b2o4bo$15b2o4bobo$21b2o14$2o$2o$!
1764: block+: 15b2o4bo$15b2o4bobo$21b2o25$2o$2o$!
1700: block+: 16b2o4bo$16b2o4bobo$22b2o15$2o$2o$!
1780: block+: 16b2o4bo$16b2o4bobo$22b2o26$2o$2o$!
1714: block+: 17b2o4bo$17b2o4bobo$23b2o16$2o$2o$!
1790: block+: 17b2o4bo$17b2o4bobo$23b2o27$2o$2o$!
1727: block+: 18b2o4bo$18b2o4bobo$24b2o17$2o$2o$!
1806: block+: 18b2o4bo$18b2o4bobo$24b2o28$2o$2o$!
1742: block+: 19b2o4bo$19b2o4bobo$25b2o18$2o$2o$!
1822: block+: 19b2o4bo$19b2o4bobo$25b2o29$2o$2o$!
1756: block+: 20b2o4bo$20b2o4bobo$26b2o19$2o$2o$!
1833: block+: 20b2o4bo$20b2o4bobo$26b2o30$2o$2o$!
1770: block+: 21b2o4bo$21b2o4bobo$27b2o20$2o$2o$!
1850: block+: 21b2o4bo$21b2o4bobo$27b2o31$2o$2o$!
1784: block+: 22b2o4bo$22b2o4bobo$28b2o21$2o$2o$!
1860: block+: 22b2o4bo$22b2o4bobo$28b2o32$2o$2o$!
1802: block+: 23b2o4bo$23b2o4bobo$29b2o22$2o$2o$!
1876: block+: 23b2o4bo$23b2o4bobo$29b2o33$2o$2o$!
1812: block+: 24b2o4bo$24b2o4bobo$30b2o23$2o$2o$!
1892: block+: 24b2o4bo$24b2o4bobo$30b2o34$2o$2o$!
1826: block+: 25b2o4bo$25b2o4bobo$31b2o24$2o$2o$!
1902: block+: 25b2o4bo$25b2o4bobo$31b2o35$2o$2o$!
1840: block+: 26b2o4bo$26b2o4bobo$32b2o25$2o$2o$!
1920: block+: 26b2o4bo$26b2o4bobo$32b2o36$2o$2o$!
1854: block+: 27b2o4bo$27b2o4bobo$33b2o26$2o$2o$!
1930: block+: 27b2o4bo$27b2o4bobo$33b2o37$2o$2o$!
1871: block+: 28b2o4bo$28b2o4bobo$34b2o27$2o$2o$!
1946: block+: 28b2o4bo$28b2o4bobo$34b2o38$2o$2o$!
1882: block+: 29b2o4bo$29b2o4bobo$35b2o28$2o$2o$!
1962: block+: 29b2o4bo$29b2o4bobo$35b2o39$2o$2o$!
1414: block+: 2b2o$2b2o4$6bo$6bobo$2o4b2o$2o$!
1585: block+: 2b2o4bo$2b2o4bobo$8b2o12$2o$2o$!
1515: block+: 2b2o4bo$2b2o4bobo$8b2o3$2o$2o$!
104: block+: 2o$2o$6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o$!
1492: block+: 2o$2o2$7bo$b2o4bobo$b2o4b2o$!
1561: block+: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o10$2o$2o$!
1511: block+: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o6$4b2o$4b2o$!
1519: block+: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o7$3b2o$3b2o$!
1536: block+: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o8$2b2o$2b2o$!
1546: block+: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o9$b2o$b2o$!
1896: block+: 30b2o4bo$30b2o4bobo$36b2o29$2o$2o$!
1972: block+: 30b2o4bo$30b2o4bobo$36b2o40$2o$2o$!
1910: block+: 31b2o4bo$31b2o4bobo$37b2o30$2o$2o$!
1989: block+: 31b2o4bo$31b2o4bobo$37b2o41$2o$2o$!
1924: block+: 32b2o4bo$32b2o4bobo$38b2o31$2o$2o$!
2000: block+: 32b2o4bo$32b2o4bobo$38b2o42$2o$2o$!
1941: block+: 33b2o4bo$33b2o4bobo$39b2o32$2o$2o$!
2016: block+: 33b2o4bo$33b2o4bobo$39b2o43$2o$2o$!
1952: block+: 34b2o4bo$34b2o4bobo$40b2o33$2o$2o$!
2032: block+: 34b2o4bo$34b2o4bobo$40b2o44$2o$2o$!
1966: block+: 35b2o4bo$35b2o4bobo$41b2o34$2o$2o$!
2042: block+: 35b2o4bo$35b2o4bobo$41b2o45$2o$2o$!
1980: block+: 36b2o4bo$36b2o4bobo$42b2o35$2o$2o$!
2058: block+: 36b2o4bo$36b2o4bobo$42b2o46$2o$2o$!
1994: block+: 37b2o4bo$37b2o4bobo$43b2o36$2o$2o$!
2070: block+: 37b2o4bo$37b2o4bobo$43b2o47$2o$2o$!
2010: block+: 38b2o4bo$38b2o4bobo$44b2o37$2o$2o$!
2086: block+: 38b2o4bo$38b2o4bobo$44b2o48$2o$2o$!
2022: block+: 39b2o4bo$39b2o4bobo$45b2o38$2o$2o$!
2102: block+: 39b2o4bo$39b2o4bobo$45b2o49$2o$2o$!
1602: block+: 3b2o4bo$3b2o4bobo$9b2o13$2o$2o$!
2036: block+: 40b2o4bo$40b2o4bobo$46b2o39$2o$2o$!
2049: block+: 41b2o4bo$41b2o4bobo$47b2o40$2o$2o$!
2064: block+: 42b2o4bo$42b2o4bobo$48b2o41$2o$2o$!
2079: block+: 43b2o4bo$43b2o4bobo$49b2o42$2o$2o$!
2092: block+: 44b2o4bo$44b2o4bobo$50b2o43$2o$2o$!
2106: block+: 45b2o4bo$45b2o4bobo$51b2o44$2o$2o$!
1612: block+: 4b2o4bo$4b2o4bobo$10b2o14$2o$2o$!
1540: block+: 4b2o4bo$4b2o4bobo$10b2o3$2o$2o$!
1413: block+: 5b2o$5b2o4$6bo$6bobo$2o4b2o$2o$!
1626: block+: 5b2o4bo$5b2o4bobo$11b2o15$2o$2o$!
1556: block+: 5b2o4bo$5b2o4bobo$11b2o4$2o$2o$!
1557: block+: 5b2o4bo$5b2o4bobo$11b2o5$2o$2o$!
1641: block+: 6b2o4bo$6b2o4bobo$12b2o16$2o$2o$!
1567: block+: 6b2o4bo$6b2o4bobo$12b2o5$2o$2o$!
1490: block+: 6bo$2o4bobo$2o4b2o5$7b2o$7b2o$!
1399: block+: 6bo$6bobo$2o4b2o$2o$11b2o$11b2o$!
1412: block+: 6bo$6bobo$2o4b2o$2o7$2b2o$2b2o$!
1411: block+: 6bo$6bobo$2o4b2o$2o7$5b2o$5b2o$!
250: block+: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o11$7b2o$7b2o$!
141: block+: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o6$5b2o$5b2o$!
1394: block+: 6bo$6bobo2b2o$2o4b2o3b2o$2o$!
246: block+: 7b2o$7b2o7$6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o$!
1651: block+: 7b2o4bo$7b2o4bobo$13b2o17$2o$2o$!
1580: block+: 7b2o4bo$7b2o4bobo$13b2o6$2o$2o$!
1494: block+: 7bo$b2o4bobo$b2o4b2o5$2o$2o$!
1666: block+: 8b2o4bo$8b2o4bobo$14b2o18$2o$2o$!
1592: block+: 8b2o4bo$8b2o4bobo$14b2o7$2o$2o$!
1485: block+: 8bo$2b2o4bobo$2b2o4b2o3$2o$2o$!
1678: block+: 9b2o4bo$9b2o4bobo$15b2o19$2o$2o$!
1606: block+: 9b2o4bo$9b2o4bobo$15b2o8$2o$2o$!
42: block+: b2o$b2o2$6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o$!
1576: block+: b2o4bo$b2o4bobo$7b2o11$2o$2o$!
1619: block: 10b2o4bo$10b2o4bobo$16b2o12$2o$2o$!
1620: block: 10b2o4bo$10b2o4bobo$16b2o13$2o$2o$!
1624: block: 10b2o4bo$10b2o4bobo$16b2o14$2o$2o$!
1630: block: 10b2o4bo$10b2o4bobo$16b2o15$2o$2o$!
1638: block: 10b2o4bo$10b2o4bobo$16b2o16$2o$2o$!
1652: block: 10b2o4bo$10b2o4bobo$16b2o17$2o$2o$!
30: block: 10bo$10bobo$10b2o$2o$2o2b2o$4b2o$!
33: block: 10bo$10bobo$10b2o2$4b2o$4b2o$2o$2o$!
1634: block: 11b2o4bo$11b2o4bobo$17b2o13$2o$2o$!
1635: block: 11b2o4bo$11b2o4bobo$17b2o14$2o$2o$!
1636: block: 11b2o4bo$11b2o4bobo$17b2o15$2o$2o$!
1643: block: 11b2o4bo$11b2o4bobo$17b2o16$2o$2o$!
1654: block: 11b2o4bo$11b2o4bobo$17b2o17$2o$2o$!
1667: block: 11b2o4bo$11b2o4bobo$17b2o18$2o$2o$!
1648: block: 12b2o4bo$12b2o4bobo$18b2o14$2o$2o$!
1649: block: 12b2o4bo$12b2o4bobo$18b2o15$2o$2o$!
1650: block: 12b2o4bo$12b2o4bobo$18b2o16$2o$2o$!
1656: block: 12b2o4bo$12b2o4bobo$18b2o17$2o$2o$!
1669: block: 12b2o4bo$12b2o4bobo$18b2o18$2o$2o$!
1679: block: 12b2o4bo$12b2o4bobo$18b2o19$2o$2o$!
1661: block: 13b2o4bo$13b2o4bobo$19b2o15$2o$2o$!
1662: block: 13b2o4bo$13b2o4bobo$19b2o16$2o$2o$!
1663: block: 13b2o4bo$13b2o4bobo$19b2o17$2o$2o$!
1670: block: 13b2o4bo$13b2o4bobo$19b2o18$2o$2o$!
1681: block: 13b2o4bo$13b2o4bobo$19b2o19$2o$2o$!
1695: block: 13b2o4bo$13b2o4bobo$19b2o20$2o$2o$!
1675: block: 14b2o4bo$14b2o4bobo$20b2o16$2o$2o$!
1676: block: 14b2o4bo$14b2o4bobo$20b2o17$2o$2o$!
1677: block: 14b2o4bo$14b2o4bobo$20b2o18$2o$2o$!
1684: block: 14b2o4bo$14b2o4bobo$20b2o19$2o$2o$!
1697: block: 14b2o4bo$14b2o4bobo$20b2o20$2o$2o$!
1711: block: 14b2o4bo$14b2o4bobo$20b2o21$2o$2o$!
1690: block: 15b2o4bo$15b2o4bobo$21b2o17$2o$2o$!
1685: block: 15b2o4bo$15b2o4bobo$21b2o18$2o$2o$!
1691: block: 15b2o4bo$15b2o4bobo$21b2o19$2o$2o$!
1698: block: 15b2o4bo$15b2o4bobo$21b2o20$2o$2o$!
1707: block: 15b2o4bo$15b2o4bobo$21b2o21$2o$2o$!
1721: block: 15b2o4bo$15b2o4bobo$21b2o22$2o$2o$!
1703: block: 16b2o4bo$16b2o4bobo$22b2o18$2o$2o$!
1704: block: 16b2o4bo$16b2o4bobo$22b2o19$2o$2o$!
1705: block: 16b2o4bo$16b2o4bobo$22b2o20$2o$2o$!
1712: block: 16b2o4bo$16b2o4bobo$22b2o21$2o$2o$!
1723: block: 16b2o4bo$16b2o4bobo$22b2o22$2o$2o$!
1737: block: 16b2o4bo$16b2o4bobo$22b2o23$2o$2o$!
1717: block: 17b2o4bo$17b2o4bobo$23b2o19$2o$2o$!
1718: block: 17b2o4bo$17b2o4bobo$23b2o20$2o$2o$!
1719: block: 17b2o4bo$17b2o4bobo$23b2o21$2o$2o$!
1726: block: 17b2o4bo$17b2o4bobo$23b2o22$2o$2o$!
1739: block: 17b2o4bo$17b2o4bobo$23b2o23$2o$2o$!
1748: block: 17b2o4bo$17b2o4bobo$23b2o24$2o$2o$!
1730: block: 18b2o4bo$18b2o4bobo$24b2o20$2o$2o$!
1731: block: 18b2o4bo$18b2o4bobo$24b2o21$2o$2o$!
1733: block: 18b2o4bo$18b2o4bobo$24b2o22$2o$2o$!
1740: block: 18b2o4bo$18b2o4bobo$24b2o23$2o$2o$!
1750: block: 18b2o4bo$18b2o4bobo$24b2o24$2o$2o$!
1765: block: 18b2o4bo$18b2o4bobo$24b2o25$2o$2o$!
1745: block: 19b2o4bo$19b2o4bobo$25b2o21$2o$2o$!
1746: block: 19b2o4bo$19b2o4bobo$25b2o22$2o$2o$!
1747: block: 19b2o4bo$19b2o4bobo$25b2o23$2o$2o$!
1754: block: 19b2o4bo$19b2o4bobo$25b2o24$2o$2o$!
1767: block: 19b2o4bo$19b2o4bobo$25b2o25$2o$2o$!
1781: block: 19b2o4bo$19b2o4bobo$25b2o26$2o$2o$!
1759: block: 20b2o4bo$20b2o4bobo$26b2o22$2o$2o$!
1760: block: 20b2o4bo$20b2o4bobo$26b2o23$2o$2o$!
1761: block: 20b2o4bo$20b2o4bobo$26b2o24$2o$2o$!
1768: block: 20b2o4bo$20b2o4bobo$26b2o25$2o$2o$!
1777: block: 20b2o4bo$20b2o4bobo$26b2o26$2o$2o$!
1791: block: 20b2o4bo$20b2o4bobo$26b2o27$2o$2o$!
1773: block: 21b2o4bo$21b2o4bobo$27b2o23$2o$2o$!
1774: block: 21b2o4bo$21b2o4bobo$27b2o24$2o$2o$!
1775: block: 21b2o4bo$21b2o4bobo$27b2o25$2o$2o$!
1782: block: 21b2o4bo$21b2o4bobo$27b2o26$2o$2o$!
1793: block: 21b2o4bo$21b2o4bobo$27b2o27$2o$2o$!
1807: block: 21b2o4bo$21b2o4bobo$27b2o28$2o$2o$!
1787: block: 22b2o4bo$22b2o4bobo$28b2o24$2o$2o$!
1788: block: 22b2o4bo$22b2o4bobo$28b2o25$2o$2o$!
1789: block: 22b2o4bo$22b2o4bobo$28b2o26$2o$2o$!
1796: block: 22b2o4bo$22b2o4bobo$28b2o27$2o$2o$!
1809: block: 22b2o4bo$22b2o4bobo$28b2o28$2o$2o$!
1823: block: 22b2o4bo$22b2o4bobo$28b2o29$2o$2o$!
1799: block: 23b2o4bo$23b2o4bobo$29b2o25$2o$2o$!
1800: block: 23b2o4bo$23b2o4bobo$29b2o26$2o$2o$!
1803: block: 23b2o4bo$23b2o4bobo$29b2o27$2o$2o$!
1810: block: 23b2o4bo$23b2o4bobo$29b2o28$2o$2o$!
1819: block: 23b2o4bo$23b2o4bobo$29b2o29$2o$2o$!
1834: block: 23b2o4bo$23b2o4bobo$29b2o30$2o$2o$!
1815: block: 24b2o4bo$24b2o4bobo$30b2o26$2o$2o$!
1816: block: 24b2o4bo$24b2o4bobo$30b2o27$2o$2o$!
1817: block: 24b2o4bo$24b2o4bobo$30b2o28$2o$2o$!
1824: block: 24b2o4bo$24b2o4bobo$30b2o29$2o$2o$!
1836: block: 24b2o4bo$24b2o4bobo$30b2o30$2o$2o$!
1851: block: 24b2o4bo$24b2o4bobo$30b2o31$2o$2o$!
1829: block: 25b2o4bo$25b2o4bobo$31b2o27$2o$2o$!
1830: block: 25b2o4bo$25b2o4bobo$31b2o28$2o$2o$!
1831: block: 25b2o4bo$25b2o4bobo$31b2o29$2o$2o$!
1838: block: 25b2o4bo$25b2o4bobo$31b2o30$2o$2o$!
1847: block: 25b2o4bo$25b2o4bobo$31b2o31$2o$2o$!
1861: block: 25b2o4bo$25b2o4bobo$31b2o32$2o$2o$!
1843: block: 26b2o4bo$26b2o4bobo$32b2o28$2o$2o$!
1844: block: 26b2o4bo$26b2o4bobo$32b2o29$2o$2o$!
1845: block: 26b2o4bo$26b2o4bobo$32b2o30$2o$2o$!
1852: block: 26b2o4bo$26b2o4bobo$32b2o31$2o$2o$!
1863: block: 26b2o4bo$26b2o4bobo$32b2o32$2o$2o$!
1877: block: 26b2o4bo$26b2o4bobo$32b2o33$2o$2o$!
1857: block: 27b2o4bo$27b2o4bobo$33b2o29$2o$2o$!
1858: block: 27b2o4bo$27b2o4bobo$33b2o30$2o$2o$!
1859: block: 27b2o4bo$27b2o4bobo$33b2o31$2o$2o$!
1866: block: 27b2o4bo$27b2o4bobo$33b2o32$2o$2o$!
1879: block: 27b2o4bo$27b2o4bobo$33b2o33$2o$2o$!
1893: block: 27b2o4bo$27b2o4bobo$33b2o34$2o$2o$!
1868: block: 28b2o4bo$28b2o4bobo$34b2o30$2o$2o$!
1869: block: 28b2o4bo$28b2o4bobo$34b2o31$2o$2o$!
1873: block: 28b2o4bo$28b2o4bobo$34b2o32$2o$2o$!
1880: block: 28b2o4bo$28b2o4bobo$34b2o33$2o$2o$!
1889: block: 28b2o4bo$28b2o4bobo$34b2o34$2o$2o$!
1903: block: 28b2o4bo$28b2o4bobo$34b2o35$2o$2o$!
1885: block: 29b2o4bo$29b2o4bobo$35b2o31$2o$2o$!
1886: block: 29b2o4bo$29b2o4bobo$35b2o32$2o$2o$!
1887: block: 29b2o4bo$29b2o4bobo$35b2o33$2o$2o$!
1894: block: 29b2o4bo$29b2o4bobo$35b2o34$2o$2o$!
1905: block: 29b2o4bo$29b2o4bobo$35b2o35$2o$2o$!
1921: block: 29b2o4bo$29b2o4bobo$35b2o36$2o$2o$!
1517: block: 2b2o4bo$2b2o4bobo$8b2o5$2o$2o$!
1518: block: 2b2o4bo$2b2o4bobo$8b2o6$2o$2o$!
1525: block: 2b2o4bo$2b2o4bobo$8b2o7$2o$2o$!
1533: block: 2b2o4bo$2b2o4bobo$8b2o8$2o$2o$!
36: block: 2o$2o$8bo$8bobo$8b2o2$2b2o$2b2o$!
46: block: 2o$2o2$6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o$!
39: block: 2o$2o2$7bo$7bobo$7b2o2$b2o$b2o$!
1497: block: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o4$2o$2o$!
1503: block: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o5$2o$2o$!
1500: block: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o5$5b2o$5b2o$!
1502: block: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o5$b2o$b2o$!
1510: block: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o6$2b2o$2b2o$!
1508: block: 2o4bo$2o4bobo$6b2o6$2o$2o$!
7: block: 2o5bo$2o5bobo$7b2o3$b2o$b2o$!
35: block: 2o8bo$2o8bobo$10b2o2$4b2o$4b2o$!
1899: block: 30b2o4bo$30b2o4bobo$36b2o32$2o$2o$!
1900: block: 30b2o4bo$30b2o4bobo$36b2o33$2o$2o$!
1901: block: 30b2o4bo$30b2o4bobo$36b2o34$2o$2o$!
1908: block: 30b2o4bo$30b2o4bobo$36b2o35$2o$2o$!
1917: block: 30b2o4bo$30b2o4bobo$36b2o36$2o$2o$!
1931: block: 30b2o4bo$30b2o4bobo$36b2o37$2o$2o$!
1913: block: 31b2o4bo$31b2o4bobo$37b2o33$2o$2o$!
1914: block: 31b2o4bo$31b2o4bobo$37b2o34$2o$2o$!
1915: block: 31b2o4bo$31b2o4bobo$37b2o35$2o$2o$!
1922: block: 31b2o4bo$31b2o4bobo$37b2o36$2o$2o$!
1933: block: 31b2o4bo$31b2o4bobo$37b2o37$2o$2o$!
1947: block: 31b2o4bo$31b2o4bobo$37b2o38$2o$2o$!
1927: block: 32b2o4bo$32b2o4bobo$38b2o34$2o$2o$!
1928: block: 32b2o4bo$32b2o4bobo$38b2o35$2o$2o$!
1929: block: 32b2o4bo$32b2o4bobo$38b2o36$2o$2o$!
1936: block: 32b2o4bo$32b2o4bobo$38b2o37$2o$2o$!
1949: block: 32b2o4bo$32b2o4bobo$38b2o38$2o$2o$!
1963: block: 32b2o4bo$32b2o4bobo$38b2o39$2o$2o$!
1938: block: 33b2o4bo$33b2o4bobo$39b2o35$2o$2o$!
1939: block: 33b2o4bo$33b2o4bobo$39b2o36$2o$2o$!
1943: block: 33b2o4bo$33b2o4bobo$39b2o37$2o$2o$!
1950: block: 33b2o4bo$33b2o4bobo$39b2o38$2o$2o$!
1959: block: 33b2o4bo$33b2o4bobo$39b2o39$2o$2o$!
1973: block: 33b2o4bo$33b2o4bobo$39b2o40$2o$2o$!
1955: block: 34b2o4bo$34b2o4bobo$40b2o36$2o$2o$!
1956: block: 34b2o4bo$34b2o4bobo$40b2o37$2o$2o$!
1957: block: 34b2o4bo$34b2o4bobo$40b2o38$2o$2o$!
1964: block: 34b2o4bo$34b2o4bobo$40b2o39$2o$2o$!
1975: block: 34b2o4bo$34b2o4bobo$40b2o40$2o$2o$!
1990: block: 34b2o4bo$34b2o4bobo$40b2o41$2o$2o$!
1969: block: 35b2o4bo$35b2o4bobo$41b2o37$2o$2o$!
1970: block: 35b2o4bo$35b2o4bobo$41b2o38$2o$2o$!
1971: block: 35b2o4bo$35b2o4bobo$41b2o39$2o$2o$!
1978: block: 35b2o4bo$35b2o4bobo$41b2o40$2o$2o$!
1986: block: 35b2o4bo$35b2o4bobo$41b2o41$2o$2o$!
2001: block: 35b2o4bo$35b2o4bobo$41b2o42$2o$2o$!
1983: block: 36b2o4bo$36b2o4bobo$42b2o38$2o$2o$!
1984: block: 36b2o4bo$36b2o4bobo$42b2o39$2o$2o$!
1985: block: 36b2o4bo$36b2o4bobo$42b2o40$2o$2o$!
1992: block: 36b2o4bo$36b2o4bobo$42b2o41$2o$2o$!
2003: block: 36b2o4bo$36b2o4bobo$42b2o42$2o$2o$!
2017: block: 36b2o4bo$36b2o4bobo$42b2o43$2o$2o$!
1997: block: 37b2o4bo$37b2o4bobo$43b2o39$2o$2o$!
1998: block: 37b2o4bo$37b2o4bobo$43b2o40$2o$2o$!
1999: block: 37b2o4bo$37b2o4bobo$43b2o41$2o$2o$!
2006: block: 37b2o4bo$37b2o4bobo$43b2o42$2o$2o$!
2019: block: 37b2o4bo$37b2o4bobo$43b2o43$2o$2o$!
2033: block: 37b2o4bo$37b2o4bobo$43b2o44$2o$2o$!
2007: block: 38b2o4bo$38b2o4bobo$44b2o40$2o$2o$!
2008: block: 38b2o4bo$38b2o4bobo$44b2o41$2o$2o$!
2013: block: 38b2o4bo$38b2o4bobo$44b2o42$2o$2o$!
2020: block: 38b2o4bo$38b2o4bobo$44b2o43$2o$2o$!
2029: block: 38b2o4bo$38b2o4bobo$44b2o44$2o$2o$!
2043: block: 38b2o4bo$38b2o4bobo$44b2o45$2o$2o$!
2025: block: 39b2o4bo$39b2o4bobo$45b2o41$2o$2o$!
2026: block: 39b2o4bo$39b2o4bobo$45b2o42$2o$2o$!
2027: block: 39b2o4bo$39b2o4bobo$45b2o43$2o$2o$!
2034: block: 39b2o4bo$39b2o4bobo$45b2o44$2o$2o$!
2045: block: 39b2o4bo$39b2o4bobo$45b2o45$2o$2o$!
2059: block: 39b2o4bo$39b2o4bobo$45b2o46$2o$2o$!
1562: block: 3b2o4bo$3b2o4bobo$9b2o10$2o$2o$!
1527: block: 3b2o4bo$3b2o4bobo$9b2o3$2o$2o$!
1530: block: 3b2o4bo$3b2o4bobo$9b2o6$2o$2o$!
1531: block: 3b2o4bo$3b2o4bobo$9b2o7$2o$2o$!
1538: block: 3b2o4bo$3b2o4bobo$9b2o8$2o$2o$!
1549: block: 3b2o4bo$3b2o4bobo$9b2o9$2o$2o$!
2039: block: 40b2o4bo$40b2o4bobo$46b2o42$2o$2o$!
2040: block: 40b2o4bo$40b2o4bobo$46b2o43$2o$2o$!
2041: block: 40b2o4bo$40b2o4bobo$46b2o44$2o$2o$!
2048: block: 40b2o4bo$40b2o4bobo$46b2o45$2o$2o$!
2061: block: 40b2o4bo$40b2o4bobo$46b2o46$2o$2o$!
2071: block: 40b2o4bo$40b2o4bobo$46b2o47$2o$2o$!
2052: block: 41b2o4bo$41b2o4bobo$47b2o43$2o$2o$!
2053: block: 41b2o4bo$41b2o4bobo$47b2o44$2o$2o$!
2055: block: 41b2o4bo$41b2o4bobo$47b2o45$2o$2o$!
2062: block: 41b2o4bo$41b2o4bobo$47b2o46$2o$2o$!
2073: block: 41b2o4bo$41b2o4bobo$47b2o47$2o$2o$!
2087: block: 41b2o4bo$41b2o4bobo$47b2o48$2o$2o$!
2067: block: 42b2o4bo$42b2o4bobo$48b2o44$2o$2o$!
2068: block: 42b2o4bo$42b2o4bobo$48b2o45$2o$2o$!
2069: block: 42b2o4bo$42b2o4bobo$48b2o46$2o$2o$!
2076: block: 42b2o4bo$42b2o4bobo$48b2o47$2o$2o$!
2089: block: 42b2o4bo$42b2o4bobo$48b2o48$2o$2o$!
2103: block: 42b2o4bo$42b2o4bobo$48b2o49$2o$2o$!
2082: block: 43b2o4bo$43b2o4bobo$49b2o45$2o$2o$!
2077: block: 43b2o4bo$43b2o4bobo$49b2o46$2o$2o$!
2083: block: 43b2o4bo$43b2o4bobo$49b2o47$2o$2o$!
2090: block: 43b2o4bo$43b2o4bobo$49b2o48$2o$2o$!
2099: block: 43b2o4bo$43b2o4bobo$49b2o49$2o$2o$!
2095: block: 44b2o4bo$44b2o4bobo$50b2o46$2o$2o$!
2096: block: 44b2o4bo$44b2o4bobo$50b2o47$2o$2o$!
2097: block: 44b2o4bo$44b2o4bobo$50b2o48$2o$2o$!
2104: block: 44b2o4bo$44b2o4bobo$50b2o49$2o$2o$!
2109: block: 45b2o4bo$45b2o4bobo$51b2o47$2o$2o$!
2110: block: 45b2o4bo$45b2o4bobo$51b2o48$2o$2o$!
1564: block: 4b2o4bo$4b2o4bobo$10b2o10$2o$2o$!
1577: block: 4b2o4bo$4b2o4bobo$10b2o11$2o$2o$!
1543: block: 4b2o4bo$4b2o4bobo$10b2o6$2o$2o$!
1544: block: 4b2o4bo$4b2o4bobo$10b2o7$2o$2o$!
1545: block: 4b2o4bo$4b2o4bobo$10b2o8$2o$2o$!
1551: block: 4b2o4bo$4b2o4bobo$10b2o9$2o$2o$!
1565: block: 5b2o4bo$5b2o4bobo$11b2o10$2o$2o$!
1573: block: 5b2o4bo$5b2o4bobo$11b2o11$2o$2o$!
1586: block: 5b2o4bo$5b2o4bobo$11b2o12$2o$2o$!
1553: block: 5b2o4bo$5b2o4bobo$11b2o7$2o$2o$!
1554: block: 5b2o4bo$5b2o4bobo$11b2o8$2o$2o$!
1558: block: 5b2o4bo$5b2o4bobo$11b2o9$2o$2o$!
1571: block: 6b2o4bo$6b2o4bobo$12b2o10$2o$2o$!
1578: block: 6b2o4bo$6b2o4bobo$12b2o11$2o$2o$!
1588: block: 6b2o4bo$6b2o4bobo$12b2o12$2o$2o$!
1603: block: 6b2o4bo$6b2o4bobo$12b2o13$2o$2o$!
1569: block: 6b2o4bo$6b2o4bobo$12b2o8$2o$2o$!
1570: block: 6b2o4bo$6b2o4bobo$12b2o9$2o$2o$!
1484: block: 6bo$2o4bobo$2o4b2o5$2b2o$2b2o$!
1481: block: 6bo$2o4bobo$2o4b2o5$3b2o$3b2o$!
1486: block: 6bo$2o4bobo$2o4b2o5$4b2o$4b2o$!
1483: block: 6bo$2o4bobo$2o4b2o5$5b2o$5b2o$!
1480: block: 6bo$2o4bobo$2o4b2o5$6b2o$6b2o$!
1487: block: 6bo$2o4bobo$2o4b2o5$b2o$b2o$!
1343: block: 6bo$6bobo$2o4b2o$2o4$2b2o$2b2o$!
1353: block: 6bo$6bobo$2o4b2o$2o5$3b2o$3b2o$!
1357: block: 6bo$6bobo$2o4b2o$2o5$4b2o$4b2o$!
87: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o$!
89: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o3$5b2o$5b2o$!
80: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o$11b2o$11b2o$!
70: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o2$10b2o$10b2o$!
81: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o4$8b2o$8b2o$!
55: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o5$3b2o$3b2o$!
71: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o5$7b2o$7b2o$!
79: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o6$6b2o$6b2o$!
73: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o6$b2o$b2o$!
53: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o7b2o$9b2o$!
67: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o8b2o$10b2o$!
77: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o9b2o$2o9b2o$!
3: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o3$2o$2o$6b2o$6b2o$!
8: block: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o3$2o$2o2$4b2o$4b2o$!
84: block: 6bo4b2o$6bobo2b2o$6b2o2$2o$2o$!
1583: block: 7b2o4bo$7b2o4bobo$13b2o10$2o$2o$!
1584: block: 7b2o4bo$7b2o4bobo$13b2o11$2o$2o$!
1590: block: 7b2o4bo$7b2o4bobo$13b2o12$2o$2o$!
1599: block: 7b2o4bo$7b2o4bobo$13b2o13$2o$2o$!
1613: block: 7b2o4bo$7b2o4bobo$13b2o14$2o$2o$!
1582: block: 7b2o4bo$7b2o4bobo$13b2o9$2o$2o$!
63: block: 7bo$7bobo$7b2o2$b2o$b2o5$2o$2o$!
1489: block: 7bo$b2o4bobo$b2o4b2o4$2o$2o$!
1595: block: 8b2o4bo$8b2o4bobo$14b2o10$2o$2o$!
1596: block: 8b2o4bo$8b2o4bobo$14b2o11$2o$2o$!
1597: block: 8b2o4bo$8b2o4bobo$14b2o12$2o$2o$!
1604: block: 8b2o4bo$8b2o4bobo$14b2o13$2o$2o$!
1615: block: 8b2o4bo$8b2o4bobo$14b2o14$2o$2o$!
1627: block: 8b2o4bo$8b2o4bobo$14b2o15$2o$2o$!
64: block: 8bo$8bobo$8b2o2$2b2o$2b2o4$2o$2o$!
1609: block: 9b2o4bo$9b2o4bobo$15b2o11$2o$2o$!
1610: block: 9b2o4bo$9b2o4bobo$15b2o12$2o$2o$!
1611: block: 9b2o4bo$9b2o4bobo$15b2o13$2o$2o$!
1618: block: 9b2o4bo$9b2o4bobo$15b2o14$2o$2o$!
1629: block: 9b2o4bo$9b2o4bobo$15b2o15$2o$2o$!
1642: block: 9b2o4bo$9b2o4bobo$15b2o16$2o$2o$!
1493: block: b2o$b2o2$6bo$2o4bobo$2o4b2o$!
1505: block: b2o4bo$b2o4bobo$7b2o4$2o$2o$!
1506: block: b2o4bo$b2o4bobo$7b2o5$2o$2o$!
1513: block: b2o4bo$b2o4bobo$7b2o6$2o$2o$!
1522: block: b2o4bo$b2o4bobo$7b2o7$2o$2o$!
85: glider: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$2o3$6b2o$6b2o$!
47: glider: 6bo$6bobo$6b2o2$2o$2o4$4b2o$4b2o$!
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Re: Blockic Seeds
Code: Select all
x = 351, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
3.D$3.D38.3D37.3D37.D.D37.3D37.3D37.3D37.3D37.3D$3.D40.D39.D37.D.D37.
D39.D41.D37.D.D37.D.D$3.D38.3D38.2D37.3D37.3D37.3D39.D37.3D37.3D$3.D
38.D41.D39.D39.D37.D.D39.D37.D.D39.D$3.D38.3D37.3D39.D37.3D37.3D39.D
37.3D37.3D8$.A39.A39.A39.A39.A39.A39.A39.A39.A$2.A39.A39.A39.A39.A39.
A6.2A31.A8.2A29.A39.A$3A37.3A37.3A37.3A37.3A37.3A6.2A29.3A8.2A27.3A
37.3A$92.2A35.2A$92.2A6.2A27.2A$100.2A2$10.2A239.2A2.2A$10.2A239.2A2.
2A$6.2A124.2A26.2A9.2A164.2A$6.2A124.2A26.2A9.2A39.2A123.2A10.2A$10.
2A194.2A4.2A39.2A94.2A$10.2A194.2A45.2A29.2A$44.2A4.2A232.2A7.2A$44.
2A4.2A30.2A6.2A196.2A3.2A$82.2A6.2A77.2A117.2A36.2A$169.2A155.2A3.2A$
48.2A113.2A166.2A$48.2A113.2A$111.2A$111.2A!
The largest shift I have found for 3 blocks is 17hd:
Code: Select all
x = 22, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o$20b2o$20b2o11$2b2o$2b2o4$16b2o$16b2o!
Here is a fast shifter using LWSS for large shifts by an odd number of halfdiagonals (19hd min):
Code: Select all
x = 102, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
bo49bo$2bo6b2o41bo6b2o$3o6b2o10b2o27b3o6b2o34b2o$21b2o72b2o2$26b2o72b
2o$26b2o72b2o6$17b2o48b2o$17b2o48b2o2$11b2o48b2o$11b2o48b2o!
Code: Select all
x = 61, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
15bo39bo$16bo39bo$14b3o37b3o$19b2o38b2o$19b2o38b2o4$15b2o38b2o$15b2o
38b2o6$40b2o$40b2o2$2o$2o43b2o$45b2o3$4b2o34b2o$4b2o34b2o!
EDIT:
The missing shift amounts for all of the above methods are 11hd, 13hd and 15hd.
Here is an 11hd shifter with 4 blocks:
Code: Select all
x = 16, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo8b2o$3o8b2o9$14b2o$14b2o4$3b2o$3b2o3$8b2o$8b2o!
Re: Blockic Seeds
Code: Select all
x = 213, y = 212, rule = B3/S23
211b2o$206b2o3b2o$206b2o3$199b2o$199b2o3$211b2o$211b2o6$199b2o$198bobo
$200bo82$6b2o108b2o$6b2o3b2o103b2o$11b2o2$111b2o$18b2o91b2o2b2o$18b2o
95b2o3$13b2o$13b2o$99b2o$98bobo10b2o$100bo10b2o3$b2o$obo$2bo75$111b2o$
111b2o6$115b2o$115b2o$111b2o$111b2o2$116b2o$116b2o3$99b2o$98bobo$100bo
!