For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.
Scorbie
Posts: 1464
Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am

A for awesome wrote: Edit: Actually functional yet probably also useless HF-pred-to-G conduit:

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``rle``
A functional HF-to-2G but probably also useless too.

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``````x = 18, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
15bo\$13b3o\$12bo\$12b2o3\$9b3o\$8bo3bo\$7bo5bo\$8bo3bo\$2b2o5b3o\$bobo\$bo\$2o2\$
3b2o\$3b2o5\$5bob2o\$3b3ob2o\$2bo\$3b3ob2o7b2o\$5bobo9bo\$5bobo8bo\$6bo9b2o!
``````
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

simeks
Posts: 369
Joined: March 11th, 2015, 12:03 pm
Location: Sweden

Scorbie wrote: A functional HF-to-2G but probably also useless too.
This is another one:

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``````x = 22, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
15.A\$13.3A\$12.A\$12.2A3\$9.3A\$8.A3.A\$7.A5.A\$8.A3.A\$2.2A5.3A\$.A.A\$.A\$2A
16.2A\$5.2A12.A\$5.A12.A\$2.2A.A13.3A\$2.2A.2A14.A2\$14.2A\$14.A\$15.3A\$17.A
!
``````

Kiran
Posts: 285
Joined: March 4th, 2015, 6:48 pm

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``````x = 236, y = 236, rule = B3/S23
234b2o2\$232bobo2\$230bobo2\$228bobo2\$226bobo2\$224bobo2\$222bobo2\$220bobo
2\$218bobo2\$216bobo2\$214bobo2\$212bobo2\$210bobo2\$208bobo2\$206bobo2\$204bo
bo2\$202bobo2\$200bobo2\$198bobo2\$196bobo2\$194bobo2\$192bobo2\$190bobo2\$
188bobo2\$186bobo2\$184bobo2\$182bobo2\$180bobo2\$178bobo2\$176bobo2\$174bobo
2\$172bobo2\$170bobo2\$168bobo2\$166bobo2\$164bobo2\$162bobo2\$160bobo2\$158bo
bo2\$156bobo2\$154bobo2\$152bobo2\$150bobo2\$148bobo2\$146bobo2\$144bobo2\$
142bobo2\$140bobo2\$138bobo2\$136bobo2\$134bobo2\$132bobo2\$130bobo2\$128bobo
2\$126bobo2\$124bobo2\$122bobo2\$120bobo2\$118bobo2\$116bobo2\$114bobo2\$112bo
bo2\$110bobo2\$108bobo2\$106bobo2\$104bobo2\$102bobo2\$100bobo2\$98bobo2\$96bo
bo2\$94bobo2\$92bobo2\$90bobo2\$88bobo2\$86bobo2\$84bobo2\$82bobo2\$80bobo2\$
78bobo2\$76bobo2\$74bobo2\$72bobo2\$70bobo2\$68bobo2\$66bobo2\$64bobo2\$62bobo
2\$60bobo2\$58bobo2\$56bobo2\$54bobo2\$52bobo2\$50bobo2\$48bobo2\$46bobo2\$44bo
bo2\$42bobo2\$40bobo2\$38bobo2\$36bobo2\$34bobo2\$32bobo2\$30bobo2\$28bobo2\$
26bobo2\$24bobo2\$22bobo2\$20bobo2\$18bobo2\$16bobo2\$14bobo2\$12bobo2\$10bobo
2\$8bobo2\$6bobo2\$4bobo2\$2bobo2\$obo\$2o!
``````
Barber-pole wick burns, burns in the other direction and makes a LWSS.
Kiran Linsuain

simsim314
Posts: 1766
Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:27 pm

So close and so utterly useless:

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``````x = 35, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
4.2C\$5.C\$5.C.C19.2C\$6.2C19.C\$2C23.C.C\$.C23.2C\$.C.C\$2.2C5.2D22.2C\$8.D
2.2D20.C\$7.D3.2D18.C.C\$8.D2.2D18.2C\$9.2D3\$3.C\$2.C.C\$3.C\$8.C23.C\$7.C.C
20.C.C\$7.2C21.3C\$30.C2\$16.2C\$15.C.C4.2C\$15.C6.C\$14.2C7.3C\$25.C!
``````

Extrementhusiast
Posts: 1849
Joined: June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm
Location: USA

Gliders push a half-bakery:

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``````x = 106, y = 106, rule = B3/S23
40bo\$39bobo\$39bobo\$38b2ob2o\$37bo5bo\$39bobo\$37b3ob3o4\$36bo7bo\$37bobobob
o\$37bobobobo\$36bob2ob2obo\$36b2o5b2o5\$24bo\$23bobo\$22bo2bo33bo\$21bob2o
30b2o2bo\$20bobo31bo5bo\$19bo2bo30b2o2bobo\$20b2o32b2o3bo12bo\$55b3o14b3o\$
75bo\$36b2o17b3o14b3o\$36bobo15b2o3bo12bo\$36bo10b2o4b2o2bobo\$47b2o5bo5bo
\$55b2o2bo\$59bo2\$70bo\$10bo2b2o13b3o38bobo\$4bobo4b2obo13bo40bobo\$3bo2bo
6bo15bo38b2ob2o\$b3ob2o4b3o\$o46b3o\$b3ob2o4b3o33bo\$3bo2bo6bo34bo\$4bobo4b
2obo\$10bo2b2o3\$30b2o8b2o\$30b2o8bobo25b2ob2o\$40bo26bo5bo2\$59b2o5bo7bo\$
59bobo4bo2bobo2bo\$24bo5bo28bo6b3o3b3o\$23b3o3b3o\$22bo2b2ob2o2bo\$22bo3bo
bo3bo\$24bobobobo49b2o7b3o\$79bo2bo4bo4bo\$21b2ob2o3b2ob2o17b3o25bo2bo4bo
5bo\$23bo7bo19bo27bo3bo8bo9bo\$52bo27b2o8b2o10b3o\$105bo\$80b2o8b2o10b3o\$
83bo8bo9bo\$77b2o8bo5bo\$51b3o23bo9bo4bo\$49bo3bo27bo7b3o\$38bo9bo4bo24bo
2bo\$36b3o9bo3bo\$35bo\$36b3o9bo3bo\$25b2ob2o8bo9bo4bo\$26bobo20bo3bo\$26bob
o22b3o\$27bo2\$65b2o\$65bo2bo\$58b3o\$57bo3bobo\$57bo3bobo3b2o\$58b2o\$60bo3bo
4\$58b2o5b2o2\$57bo9bo\$57bo3bobo3bo\$57bo3bobo3bo\$58bobo3bobo\$59bo5bo9\$
60b2ob2o\$61bobo\$61bobo\$62bo!``````
I Like My Heisenburps! (and others)

Scorbie
Posts: 1464
Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am

Most interesting useless catalyst ever seen.

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``````x = 10, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
8b2o\$7bobo\$8bo2\$6bo\$5bobo\$5bobo\$6bo2\$2bo\$bobo\$2ob2o\$bo2bo\$bo3bo\$bo!``````
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

simsim314
Posts: 1766
Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:27 pm

Another absolutely useless transparent catalyst

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``````x = 15, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
7.2C\$7.2C2\$13.2C\$13.2C4\$2C\$2C2\$11.3C\$12.C\$10.3C!
``````

simsim314
Posts: 1766
Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:27 pm

It's a bird! No it's a plane? No it's a totally useless H->Mango!

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``````xx = 40, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
.C10.3B3.2C3.2C\$.3C6.6B.B2CB.B2CB\$4.C4.7B.4B.3B\$3.2C4.8B.2B3.B6.2B\$3.
5B.25B\$5.31B\$4.32B.B\$4.33B2C\$4.33B2C\$2.2CB.27B.4B\$.C.CB2.23B4.4B\$.C6.
BD17B\$2C6.DBD15B\$8.D2BD4B2.11B\$8.BDBDB5.12B\$10.DB6.12B\$19.11B\$17.4B.
4B3CB\$17.2C4.4BC2B\$18.C4.2B3C2B\$15.3C6.6B\$15.C8.7B\$26.B.4B\$29.4B\$30.
4B\$31.4B\$32.4B\$33.4B\$34.4B\$35.4B\$36.4B!``````
EDIT Very similar:

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``````x = 55, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
7\$25.2C3.2C\$12.C12.2C3.2C\$12.3C\$15.C\$14.2C3\$44.2C\$44.2C3\$13.2C\$14.C\$
11.3C\$11.C3\$33.3C\$34.C\$32.3C!
``````
EDIT Very inefficient H eater:

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``````x = 43, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
6.2C\$5.B2CB\$6.3B\$.4B2.B3.B9.2C3.2C\$.13B6.B2CB.B2CB\$2C12B6.4B.3B\$2C14B
5.2B3.B6.2B\$.B.34B\$4.35B\$5.34B.B\$4.36B2C\$5.35B2C\$5.31B.4B\$6.27B4.4B\$
6.24B\$6.B.21B\$7.2B7.3B2.11B\$6.B2CB11.12B\$7.2C12.12B\$21.12B\$20.4B.4B3C
B\$20.2C4.4BC2B\$21.C4.2B3C2B\$18.3C6.6B\$18.C8.7B\$29.B.4B\$32.4B\$33.4B\$
34.4B\$35.4B\$36.4B\$37.4B\$38.4B\$39.4B!
``````

dvgrn
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I sure wish the new B60 conduit could connect to something other than another B60 -- can anyone find an exception that proves the rule? a really strange H-to-G, maybe? Failing that, it would be nice if the loop would work a little better at period 60:

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```x = 184, y = 83, rule = B3/S23 8b2o\$8b2o3\$11b2o\$11b2o2\$8b2o\$o7b2o\$3o\$3bo\$2b2o\$3b3o\$4b2o\$4bobo\$38b2o\$ 38b2o2\$19bo\$18b3o20b2o14b2o115b2o\$17bo2b2o19b2o14b2o115b2o\$17bo3bo\$18b 2obo16b2o\$20b2o16b2o20b2o14b2o93b2o\$60b2o14b2o93b2o2\$17b2o38b2o115b2o\$ 17bo30b3o6b2o20b2o14b2o77b2o7bo\$17b2ob2o27bo29b2o14b2o84b3o\$18bo2bo25b 3o130bo\$21bo54b2o102b2o\$18bo2bo45b3o6b2o20b2o14b2o\$19b2o47bo29b2o14b2o \$39b3o24b3o103b2o2bo\$39bo55b2o\$16b2o20b3o45b3o6b2o20b2o14b2o37bo3bo\$ 16b2o69bo29b2o14b2o37bo\$58b3o24b3o85bobo\$19b2o37bo55b2o\$19b2o28b2o6b3o 45b3o6b2o20b2o35b3o\$26b2o21b2o55bo29b2o19bo\$27b2o48b3o24b3o48b2o\$26bo 19b2o29bo55b2o21b2o\$8b3o35b2o20b2o6b3o45b3o6b2o28b2o\$68b2o55bo37b2o\$8b obo85b3o24b3o\$11bo37b2o14b2o29bo69b2o\$7bo3bo37b2o14b2o20b2o6b3o45b3o 20b2o\$87b2o55bo\$7bo2b2o103b3o24b3o\$68b2o14b2o29bo47b2o\$68b2o14b2o20b2o 6b3o45bo2bo\$2b2o102b2o54bo\$3bo130b3o25bo2bo\$3o84b2o14b2o29bo27b2ob2o\$o 7b2o77b2o14b2o20b2o6b3o30bo\$8b2o115b2o38b2o2\$11b2o93b2o14b2o\$11b2o93b 2o14b2o20b2o16b2o\$144b2o16bob2o\$162bo3bo\$8b2o115b2o14b2o19b2o2bo\$8b2o 115b2o14b2o20b3o\$164bo2\$144b2o\$144b2o\$177bobo\$178b2o\$178b3o\$180b2o\$ 180bo\$181b3o\$174b2o7bo\$174b2o2\$171b2o\$171b2o3\$174b2o\$174b2o! #C [[ AUTOSTART ZOOM 3 HEIGHT 300 ]]```

Sokwe
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Posts: 1674
Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm

dvgrn wrote:It would be nice if the loop would work a little better at period 60
Is this what you mean?

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``````x = 31, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
9b2o\$9b2o3\$12b2o\$12b2o2\$9b2o\$9b2o2\$29b2o\$25b2o2bo\$19b3o3bobobo\$bo18bo
7bo\$b3o14b3o\$4bo21bo\$3bobo19bobo\$4bo21bo\$10b3o14b3o\$2bo7bo18bo\$bobobo
3b3o\$bo2b2o\$2o2\$20b2o\$20b2o2\$17b2o\$17b2o3\$20b2o\$20b2o!``````
-Matthias Merzenich

dvgrn
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Sokwe wrote:
dvgrn wrote:It would be nice if the loop would work a little better at period 60
Is this what you mean? ...
Well, sure, except it would be nice to actually get a P60 glider stream out, which is more definitely on the unpossible side of things.

I suppose if this B60 has only cropped up now, it's quite possible that a lot of other simple conduits with two transparent still lifes are still out there waiting to be found. Two blocks, most likely -- Catagolue has definitely established by this time that blocks are the most likely option! But two transparent beehives (for example) might possibly show up at some point.

EDIT: While I'm wishing, it would be nice if simsim314's new B-heptomino turn would work just a little bit better with Guam's glider-producing B-to-B conduit:

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```x = 167, y = 167, rule = B3/S23 96b2o\$95bobo\$89b2o4bo\$87bo2bo2b2ob4o\$87b2obobobobo2bo\$90bobobobo\$90bob ob2o\$91bo2\$104b2o\$95b2o7bo\$77bo17b2o5bobo\$77b3o22b2o\$80bo\$79b2o3\$71b2o \$71bo\$68b2obo20b2o\$68bo2b3o4b2o13bo19b2o\$69b2o3bo3b2o10b3o20bo\$71b4o 15bo24bo\$71bo15b2obo4b2o14b5o\$72b3o12bobob2o3bo13bo\$75bo13bo2bo3bobo 12b3o\$70b5o14b2o6b2o15bo\$70bo40b4o\$72bo33b2o3bo3b2o\$71b2o33b2o4b3o2bo\$ 114bob2o\$114bo\$113b2o3\$105b2o\$105bo\$92b2o12b3o\$91bobo14bo\$93bo\$66bo16b o\$66b3o13bobo\$69bo13bo19b2o\$57b2o9b2o24b2o7b2o\$58bo35b2o\$58bobo\$59b2o\$ 103bo\$102bobo\$29b2o71bobo\$28bobo72bo\$22b2o4bo\$20bo2bo2b2ob4o\$20b2obobo bobo2bo25b2o\$23bobobobo28b2o\$23bobob2o\$24bo67b2o\$123bo\$37b2o73b2o7b3o\$ 28b2o7bo74b2o6bo\$28b2o5bobo59bo22b2o\$9bo25b2o42b2o16bo\$9b3o30b2o4b2o 16b2o11b2o\$12bo29b2o3bo2bo15b2o\$11b2o35b2o48bob2o\$98b3o\$99bo3b2o20b2o\$ 3b2o47bo50b2o20bo\$3bo21b2o25bobo68bobo20b2o\$2obo22bo25b2o69b2o20bobo\$o 2b3o4b2o11b3o113b2o4bo\$b2o3bo3b2o11bo19b2o92bo2bo2b2ob4o\$3b4o36b2o92b 2obobobobo2bo\$3bo15b2o56bo62bobobobo\$4b3o12bobo2b2o50bobo61bobob2o\$7bo 13bo2bo52b2o62bo\$2b5o14b3o2bo65bo\$2bo21b3o5b2o57bobo60b2o\$4bo18bo9b2o 56b2o52b2o7bo\$3b2o18b2o7bo71b2o39b2o5bobo\$104b2o46b2o2\$41bo83bo\$40bobo 81bobo\$41bo83bo2\$13b2o46b2o\$12bobo5b2o39b2o71bo7b2o18b2o\$12bo7b2o52b2o 56b2o9bo18bo\$11b2o60bobo57b2o5b3o21bo\$74bo65bo2b3o14b5o\$25bo62b2o52bo 2bo13bo\$21b2obobo61bobo50b2o2bobo12b3o\$20bobobobo62bo56b2o15bo\$17bo2bo bobobob2o92b2o36b4o\$17b4ob2o2bo2bo92b2o19bo11b2o3bo3b2o\$21bo4b2o113b3o 11b2o4b3o2bo\$19bobo20b2o69b2o25bo22bob2o\$19b2o20bobo68bobo25b2o21bo\$ 41bo20b2o50bo47b2o\$40b2o20b2o3bo\$66b3o\$65b2obo48b2o35b2o\$99b2o15bo2bo 3b2o29bo\$86b2o11b2o16b2o4b2o30b3o\$69bo16b2o42b2o25bo\$45b2o22bo59bobo5b 2o\$46bo6b2o74bo7b2o\$43b3o7b2o73b2o\$43bo\$73b2o67bo\$138b2obobo\$107b2o28b obobobo\$107b2o25bo2bobobobob2o\$134b4ob2o2bo2bo\$138bo4b2o\$63bo72bobo\$ 62bobo71b2o\$62bobo\$63bo\$106b2o\$106bobo\$71b2o35bo\$62b2o7b2o24b2o9b2o\$ 62b2o19bo13bo\$82bobo13b3o\$83bo16bo\$73bo\$58bo14bobo\$58b3o12b2o\$61bo\$60b 2o3\$52b2o\$52bo\$49b2obo\$49bo2b3o4b2o33b2o\$50b2o3bo3b2o33bo\$52b4o40bo\$ 52bo15b2o6b2o14b5o\$53b3o12bobo3bo2bo13bo\$56bo13bo3b2obobo12b3o\$51b5o 14b2o4bob2o15bo\$51bo24bo15b4o\$53bo20b3o10b2o3bo3b2o\$52b2o19bo13b2o4b3o 2bo\$73b2o20bob2o\$95bo\$94b2o3\$86b2o\$86bo\$63b2o22b3o\$62bobo5b2o17bo\$62bo 7b2o\$61b2o2\$75bo\$71b2obobo\$70bobobobo\$67bo2bobobobob2o\$67b4ob2o2bo2bo\$ 71bo4b2o\$69bobo\$69b2o! #C [[ AUTOSTART ZOOM 3 THEME 3 ANGLE 45 ]]```

biggiemac
Posts: 504
Joined: September 17th, 2014, 12:21 am
Location: California, USA

I was bored and trying to see how round of a curve could be made - the wicks from twin hat variants allow slopes 0/4, 1/4, 2/4 and 3/4 so a combination of them can approximate curves quite well.
(Utter uselessness warning)
Anyone want to try seeds of destruction on the sun? It would be satisfying if there was some set of SLs that could be placed that left a 1G annihilation.

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``````x = 227, y = 240, rule = B3/S23
139bo\$139bobo\$139b2o7\$113bo\$111b3o\$110bo\$111b5o\$116bo\$111b5o\$110bo\$
111b5o\$116bo\$111b5o\$63bo46bo52bo\$63b3o45b5o45b3o\$66bo49bo43bo\$63b4o44b
5o44b4o\$62bo47bo53bo\$63b6o42b5o42b6o\$69bo46bo40bo\$65b4o42b5o42b4o\$64bo
45bo51bo\$65b6o40b5o40b6o\$71bo44bo38bo\$67b4o40b5o40b4o\$66bo43bo49bo\$67b
6o38b5o38b6o\$73bo42bo36bo\$69b4o38b5o38b4o\$68bo41bo47bo\$69b6o36b5o36b6o
\$75bo40bo34bo\$71b4o36b5o36b4o\$70bo39bo45bo\$71b6o34b5o34b6o\$77bo38bo32b
o\$73b4o36b3o34b4o\$72bo40bo40bo\$73b6o69b6o\$79bo67bo\$75b4o69b4o\$74bo77bo
\$75b6o65b6o\$80bo65bo\$77b3o33bo33b3o\$22b2o53bo27bo3b2obobob2o3bo27bo53b
2o\$21bobo77b2obobobobobobobobobobob2o77bobo\$21bobob2o70b2obobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobob2o70b2obobo\$20b2obobobo65b2obobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobob2o65bobobob2o\$23bobobo64bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobo64bobobo\$23bobobob2o57b2o2bobobobobobobob2o3bo3bo3b2obobobob
obobobo2b2o57b2obobobo\$24b2obobobo53bo2bobobobobob2o3bo19bo3b2obobobob
obo2bo53bobobob2o\$27bobobo52bobobobobo2bo35bo2bobobobobo52bobobo\$27bob
obob2o46bo2bobobobobo41bobobobobo2bo46b2obobobo\$28b2obobobo44bobobobob
o2bo43bo2bobobobobo44bobobob2o\$31bobobo41bo2bobobo2b2o49b2o2bobobo2bo
41bobobo\$31bobobob2o37bobobo2b2o57b2o2bobobo37b2obobobo\$32b2obobobo33b
o2bobobo65bobobo2bo33bobobob2o\$35bobobo32bobobob2o67b2obobobo32bobobo\$
35bobobob2o29bobobo73bobobo29b2obobobo\$36b2obobobo25b2obobobo73bobobob
2o25bobobob2o\$39bobobo24bobobob2o75b2obobobo24bobobo\$39bobobob2o21bobo
bo81bobobo21b2obobobo\$40b2obobobo17b2obobobo81bobobob2o17bobobob2o\$43b
obobo16bobobob2o83b2obobobo16bobobo\$43bobobob2o13bobobo89bobobo13b2obo
bobo\$44b2obobo13b2obobo89bobob2o13bobob2o\$47bobo14bob2o91b2obo14bobo\$
47b2o12bo2bo97bo2bo12b2o\$59b6o97b6o\$58bo109bo\$58b5o101b5o\$62bo101bo\$
56b6o103b6o\$55bo115bo\$55b5o107b5o\$59bo107bo\$53b6o109b6o\$52bo121bo\$53b
4o113b4o\$56bo113bo\$51b5o115b5o\$50bo125bo\$51b3o119b3o\$53bo119bo\$49b4o
121b4o\$48bo129bo\$49b2o125b2o\$51bo123bo\$47b5o123b5o\$2bo43bo133bo43bo\$bo
bob2o40b3o127b3o40b2obobo\$bobobobob2o39bo125bo39b2obobobobo\$2obobobobo
bob2o30b6o125b6o30b2obobobobobob2o\$3bobobobobobobob2o26bo135bo26b2obob
obobobobobo\$3bobobobobobobobobob2o23b3o129b3o23b2obobobobobobobobobo\$
4b2obobobobobobobobobob2o22bo127bo22b2obobobobobobobobobob2o\$8b2obobob
obobobobobobob2o13b5o129b5o13b2obobobobobobobobobob2o\$12b2obobobobobob
obobobo11bo139bo11bobobobobobobobobob2o\$16b2obobobobobobobo11b4o133b4o
11bobobobobobobob2o\$20b2obobobobobob2o12bo131bo12b2obobobobobob2o\$24b
2obobobobo9b4o133b4o9bobobobob2o\$28b2obobo8bo141bo8bobob2o\$32bo9b5o
133b5o9bo\$46bo133bo\$42b4o135b4o\$41bo143bo\$41b5o135b5o\$46bo133bo\$41b5o
135b5o\$40bo145bo\$41b5o135b5o\$45bo135bo\$41b4o137b4o\$40bo145bo\$40b5o137b
5o\$45bo135bo\$40b5o137b5o\$39bo147bo\$40b5o137b5o\$45bo135bo\$40b5o137b5o\$
40bo145bo\$41b4o137b4o\$45bo135bo\$41b5o135b5o\$40bo145bo\$41b5o135b5o\$46bo
133bo\$41b5o135b5o\$41bo143bo\$42b4o135b4o\$46bo133bo\$32bo9b5o133b5o9bo\$
28b2obobo8bo141bo8bobob2o\$24b2obobobobo9b4o133b4o9bobobobob2o\$20b2obob
obobobob2o12bo131bo12b2obobobobobob2o\$16b2obobobobobobobo11b4o133b4o
11bobobobobobobob2o\$12b2obobobobobobobobobo11bo139bo11bobobobobobobobo
bob2o\$8b2obobobobobobobobobob2o13b5o129b5o13b2obobobobobobobobobob2o\$
4b2obobobobobobobobobob2o22bo127bo22b2obobobobobobobobobob2o\$3bobobobo
bobobobobob2o23b3o129b3o23b2obobobobobobobobobo\$3bobobobobobobob2o26bo
135bo26b2obobobobobobobo\$2obobobobobob2o30b6o125b6o30b2obobobobobob2o\$
bobobobob2o39bo125bo39b2obobobobo\$bobob2o40b3o127b3o40b2obobo\$2bo43bo
133bo43bo\$47b5o123b5o\$51bo123bo\$49b2o125b2o\$48bo129bo\$49b4o121b4o\$53bo
119bo\$51b3o119b3o\$50bo125bo\$51b5o115b5o\$56bo113bo\$53b4o113b4o\$52bo121b
o\$53b6o109b6o\$59bo107bo\$55b5o107b5o\$55bo115bo\$56b6o103b6o\$62bo101bo\$
58b5o101b5o\$58bo109bo\$59b6o97b6o\$47b2o12bo2bo97bo2bo12b2o\$47bobo14bob
2o91b2obo14bobo\$44b2obobo13b2obobo89bobob2o13bobob2o\$43bobobob2o13bobo
bo89bobobo13b2obobobo\$43bobobo16bobobob2o83b2obobobo16bobobo\$40b2obobo
bo17b2obobobo81bobobob2o17bobobob2o\$39bobobob2o21bobobo81bobobo21b2obo
bobo\$39bobobo24bobobob2o75b2obobobo24bobobo\$36b2obobobo25b2obobobo73bo
bobob2o25bobobob2o\$35bobobob2o29bobobo73bobobo29b2obobobo\$35bobobo32bo
bobob2o67b2obobobo32bobobo\$32b2obobobo33bo2bobobo65bobobo2bo33bobobob
2o\$31bobobob2o37bobobo2b2o57b2o2bobobo37b2obobobo\$31bobobo41bo2bobobo
2b2o49b2o2bobobo2bo41bobobo\$28b2obobobo44bobobobobo2bo43bo2bobobobobo
44bobobob2o\$27bobobob2o46bo2bobobobobo41bobobobobo2bo46b2obobobo\$27bob
obo52bobobobobo2bo35bo2bobobobobo52bobobo\$24b2obobobo53bo2bobobobobob
2o3bo19bo3b2obobobobobo2bo53bobobob2o\$23bobobob2o57b2o2bobobobobobobob
2o3bo3bo3b2obobobobobobobo2b2o57b2obobobo\$23bobobo64bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobo64bobobo\$20b2obobobo65b2obobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobob2o65bobobob2o\$21bobob2o70b2obobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobob2o70b2obobo\$21bobo77b2obobobobobobobobobobob2o77bobo\$22b2o53bo27b
o3b2obobob2o3bo27bo53b2o\$77b3o33bo33b3o\$80bo65bo\$75b6o65b6o\$74bo77bo\$
75b4o69b4o\$79bo67bo\$73b6o69b6o\$72bo40bo40bo\$73b4o36b3o34b4o\$77bo38bo
32bo\$71b6o34b5o34b6o\$70bo39bo45bo\$71b4o36b5o36b4o\$75bo40bo34bo\$69b6o
36b5o36b6o\$68bo41bo47bo\$69b4o38b5o38b4o\$73bo42bo36bo\$67b6o38b5o38b6o\$
66bo43bo49bo\$67b4o40b5o40b4o\$71bo44bo38bo\$65b6o40b5o40b6o\$64bo45bo51bo
\$65b4o42b5o42b4o\$69bo46bo40bo\$63b6o42b5o42b6o\$62bo47bo53bo\$63b4o44b5o
44b4o\$66bo49bo43bo\$63b3o45b5o45b3o\$63bo46bo52bo\$111b5o\$116bo\$111b5o\$
110bo\$111b5o\$116bo\$111b5o\$110bo\$111b3o\$113bo!
``````
(More of a serious question)
Do there exist wickstretchers for the 1/4, 2/4 and 3/4 wicks (shown in the rays of the "sun" above) using slideguns or helices? If not, is there a known component synthesis to extend each?
Physics: sophistication from simplicity.

Scorbie
Posts: 1464
Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am

Two multiday searches of the B ended with no fruit, but here are the useless (but interesting) results.

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``````x = 106, y = 245, rule = B3/S23
15\$37bo\$37b3o7bo\$40bo5bobo\$39b2o6bo4\$47b2o\$47b2o7\$42bo\$41b3o\$40b2obo
80\$48b2o\$48bobo\$49bo3\$49b2o3b2o\$48bo2bo2b2o\$49bobo\$50bo9\$42bo\$41b3o\$
40b2obo84\$54b2o\$47b2o4bobo\$46bo2bo3bo\$47b2o3b2o2\$52b2o\$53bo\$53bobo\$54b
2o5\$42bo\$41b3o\$40b2obo!``````

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``````x = 127, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
17\$16b2o97b2o\$8b2o6b2o90b2o5b2o\$8b2o98b2o3\$7b2o97b2o\$7b2o97b2o6\$11bo
98bo\$10b3o96b3o\$9b2obo95b2obo!
``````
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

Scorbie
Posts: 1464
Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am

No... Not there!

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``````x = 31, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
15bo\$15b3o7bo\$18bo5bobo\$17b2o6bo2\$10bo\$11bo7bo\$9b3o6bobo4b2o\$17bo2bo4b
2o\$18b2o10\$19b2o\$19b2o\$6b2o\$5bobo\$5bo\$4b2o5\$12b2o\$13bo\$10b3o\$10bo!
``````
EDIT: A near miss

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``````x = 32, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
obo17b2o\$b2o17b2o\$bo6\$26b2o\$26b2o\$31bo\$29b3o\$28bo\$28b2o5\$5b2o\$5bobo\$6b
o\$18b2o10b2o\$18b2o10b2o7\$16b2o\$15bobo\$15bo\$14b2o!
``````
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

Bullet51
Posts: 563
Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am

c/3 wick:

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``````x = 88, y = 7, rule = B3/S23:T88,0
3b2o4bobo6b2o5b2o4bobo6b2o5b2o4bobo6b2o5b2o4bobo6b2o\$2b3o4bob2o5bo5b3o
4bob2o5bo5b3o4bob2o5bo5b3o4bob2o5bo\$2bo3bo4bobo2bo4bo2bo3bo4bobo2bo4bo
2bo3bo4bobo2bo4bo2bo3bo4bobo2bo4bo\$3o2b2o2b2ob3o2bo3b4o2b2o2b2ob3o2bo
3b4o2b2o2b2ob3o2bo3b4o2b2o2b2ob3o2bo3bo\$2bo3bo4bobo2bo4bo2bo3bo4bobo2b
o4bo2bo3bo4bobo2bo4bo2bo3bo4bobo2bo4bo\$2b3o4bob2o5bo5b3o4bob2o5bo5b3o
4bob2o5bo5b3o4bob2o5bo\$3b2o4bobo6b2o5b2o4bobo6b2o5b2o4bobo6b2o5b2o4bob
o6b2o!
``````
Should be discovered before.
Still drifting.

Scorbie
Posts: 1464
Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am

An almost lom-to-b.

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``````x = 29, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
22.D\$18.2B.3D\$2A15.3BD2B2D\$.A7.3B2.2B.9B\$.A.AB3.18B\$2.2AB.9B2D9B\$4.
11B2D10B\$4.23B\$4.22B\$4.9B2C9B\$3.10BCBC8B\$3.10BCBC9B\$3.11B2C9B2.B\$4.
21B.B2A\$6.21B2A\$8.5B5.8B.B\$7.6B7.5B\$6.B2A4B9.B\$6.A2BA2B\$6.B2A2B\$7.3B\$
8.B!``````
And a true lom-to-b with no clearance at all.

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``````x = 20, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
A13.4B\$3A12.4B\$3.A12.4B\$2.2A13.3B\$2.4B.B2.2B2.3B.2B\$4.B2C8BD4B\$3.2BCB
C7B2D3B\$3.2BCBC8B2D2B\$3.3B2C8BD3B\$3.12BD4B\$5.B.7B2.2B\$4.3B3.3B\$3.B2AB
\$4.2A!``````
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

chris_c
Posts: 966
Joined: June 28th, 2014, 7:15 am

An interesting glider eater although I doubt it is very useful:

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``````x = 13, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
6b2o\$6b2o\$2o\$obo\$bo\$5b2o4b2o\$4bo2bo3b2o\$5bobo\$6bo6\$8b3o\$8bo\$9bo!
``````

The Turtle
Posts: 102
Joined: May 6th, 2015, 8:14 pm
Location: Chicago, Illinois

Hello! I am new to this forum and this is my first post.
I found a glider "eater" that flips itself when it eats a glider.
Is this the smallest such pattern?

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``````x = 18, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
o\$b2o\$2o4\$2bo\$obo3bobo\$b2o4b2o\$7bo3\$8bo\$9bo6b2o\$7b3ob2obo2bo\$12bob3o\$
12bo\$11b2ob3o\$12bobo2bo\$10bobobobo\$10b2o3bo!
``````
Only two things are constant: change and the speed of light.

simsim314
Posts: 1766
Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:27 pm

Hi Turtle, and welcome.

Never saw such a thing - and cool finding. This is technically not an eater, but something like a flipper, or two state eater.

Scorbie
Posts: 1464
Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am

I second the welcome.
That is a cool thing indeed. AHow did you find it?
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

dvgrn
Moderator
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chris_c wrote:An interesting glider eater although I doubt it is very useful...
A Spartan highway robber! Not a very competent one -- it's a couple of lanes from being perfect... but it does allow a pure-Spartan version of at least one very useful conduit, RF48H:

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```x = 79, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory 35.2A\$34.B2AB\$34.4B\$35.2B\$33.2A3B\$33.2A5B\$20.2A11.8B\$21.A6.2B5.6B\$21. A.AB2.6B.9B\$22.2AB.B.17B\$18.2A4.24B\$17.B2AB2.27B\$18.3B2.28B26.A\$17.B. B2.31B23.A.A\$16.39B21.A.A\$16.39B4.2B2.2B12.A\$14.33BA18BD\$14.33B2A17BD BD\$15.16B2A13B2A18B3DB\$14.17B2A34B.D\$15.9B2A12B2.27B\$17.B2.3BA2BA10B 3.2B2A19B.2B\$21.3B2A9B5.BA2BA12B6.3B\$21.13B7.ABA12B4.4BAB\$21.12B8.BA 13B3.4BABA2.2B\$20.11B10.16B3.2BA2BA3B2A\$19.11B11.16B3.3B2A2B.B2A\$18. 10B15.13B3.AB2.5B.B\$17.10B16.13B2.A.A4.2B\$16.10B17.12B3.2A4.2B\$15.6B. 2B2AB23.B12.B2AB\$14.6B4.2A38.2A\$13.6B\$12.6B\$11.6B\$10.6B\$9.2B3AB\$8.5BA \$7.5BA\$6.4B\$5.4B26.2A\$4.4B26.B2AB\$3.4B27.4B\$2.4B29.2B\$.4B28.2A3B\$3AB 29.2A5B\$2.A17.2A11.8B\$.A19.A6.2B5.6B\$21.A.AB2.6B.9B\$22.2AB.B.17B\$18. 2A4.24B\$17.B2AB2.27B\$18.3B2.28B26.A\$17.B.B2.31B23.A.A\$16.39B21.A.A\$ 16.39B4.2B2.2B12.A\$14.33BD18BD\$14.33B2D17BDBD\$15.16B2A13B2D18B3DB\$14. 17B2A34B.D\$15.9B2A12B2.27B\$17.B2.3BA2BA10B3.2B2A16B.B\$21.3B2A9B5.BA2B A12B\$21.13B7.ABA12B11.2A\$21.12B8.BA13B7.A3.2A\$20.11B10.16B5.A.A\$19. 11B11.16B4.A.A\$18.10B15.13B5.A\$17.10B16.13B4.2A\$16.10B17.12B\$15.6B.2B 2AB23.B\$14.6B4.2A\$13.6B\$12.6B\$11.6B\$10.6B\$9.2B3AB\$8.5BA\$7.5BA\$6.4B\$5. 4B\$4.4B\$3.4B\$2.4B\$.4B\$3AB\$2.A\$.A! #C [[ THUMBNAIL HEIGHT 800 ZOOM 8 VIEWONLY ]]```
EDIT: Three lanes from perfection, I should have said -- and probably the term "highway robber" is better reserved for circuits that can extract a signal. This reaction could be modified to extract a signal, but it would probably be more expensive than known mechanisms with better clearance... maybe this is just a "highway-robbing eater"? I forget if there's another standard name for from-the-side eaters as a class.

Now, we already have recipes for all orientations of the tub-with-tail eater constellation that are only slightly expensive -- and with enough searching we might be able to find edgy slow-salvo recipes for all orientations of tub-with-tails, so that they can safely be analyzed by an automatic compiler. But it's nice to see this easy-to-build variation, anyway, so it's definitely going into (my version of) the elementary conduits collection.

I bet a lot of other self-constructing circuitry uses will show up for this eater, actually -- it can safely catch one or the other of a G(n) glider pair right down to G3. So for example it allows a Spartan version of this old demultiplexer device... catching the unwanted natural glider from the Herschel-to-beehive converter always needed a tub-with-tail eater before now.

From a stable reflector by Paul Callahan, 30 April 1997:

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``````x = 116, y = 90, rule = LifeHistory
114.A\$113.A\$113.3A5\$63.2A\$62.A2.A\$63.2A4\$58.7B\$57.8B\$57.8B\$57.8B\$57.B
3D4B\$57.2BD4B\$57.2B3D2B\$57.6B\$56.7B\$55.8B\$54.8B\$54.8B\$52.2AB2.6B\$51.A
.A2.7B\$51.A4.6B\$50.2A4.6B\$56.6B\$55.8B\$56.8B\$55.9B\$55.9B\$55.10B\$55.5B
2A3B\$55.5B2A4B3.2A\$55.11B3.A\$55.12BA.A\$57.8B2.2A\$51.2A4.7B\$52.A4.6B\$
52.A.AB.6B.BA\$53.2AB.7BA.A\$55.9B.2A3.C\$56.7B6.C2B\$55.8B5.B3C\$52.3B2.
7B.B.4B\$52.4B.13B\$51.2A16B\$51.2A9B2D4B\$52.B.7BD2BD2B\$46.2A6.8B2D3B\$
31.A15.A7.11B\$29.3A15.A.AB5.10B\$16.A11.A19.2AB.3B.11B\$16.3A9.2A20.17B
\$19.A9.B20.16B\$6.2A10.2A9.3B19.13B\$7.A10.5B5.6B16.14B.2B\$7.A.AB9.4B3.
10B11.18B2A\$8.2AB.3B4.6B2.11B3.2B2.19B.B2A\$10.7B.13B2A31B2.B\$10.21B2A
22B.7B\$11.44B.7B\$10.45B2.7B\$8.46B4.6B\$2.B2.19B.B3.13B.4B10.7B\$2.6BC
13B7.7B.B4.4B12.4B\$2.6BCBC4B.6B19.4B14.5B\$2.6B3C4B2.B.5B16.4B18.2A\$2.
8BC4B7.2A15.4B19.A\$2.12B8.A15.4B21.3A\$4.3B16.3A11.4B24.A\$2.4B19.A10.
4B\$2.2A31.4B\$3.A30.4B\$3A19.2A9.4B\$A20.B2AB7.4B\$22.3B6.4B\$21.B.B6.4B\$
18.B.4B5.4B\$17.2A4B2A2B.4B\$17.2AB.BA2BA5B\$18.B2.BABA2B\$22.BA2B\$22.4B\$
20.A5B\$19.A.A2.B\$19.2A!``````
Don't know if this particular device will ever come in handy, but there are quite a few composite conduits floating around that are almost-Spartan, i.e., Spartan except for an annoying but unavoidable tub-with-tail eater. A lot of those TWITs are going to be avoidable now!

EDIT2: In the "useless" category, appropriate for this thread... it would have been really nice to Spartanify the old H116 conduit that currently needs either two eaters joined at the tails, or a tub-with-tail eater. Unfortunately the new Spartan eater doesn't quite work out:

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```x = 46, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory 17.A\$17.3A\$20.A\$19.2A4.2B\$15.B3.8B\$13.4B4.7B\$12.6B.9B\$12.6B.10B\$11. 19B\$10.19B\$10.17B\$11.15B\$9.17B\$7.21B\$7.2BD21B3.2B2.2B\$6.3BDBD4B.24BD\$ 7.2B3D4B2.23BDBD\$6.5BD4B2.23B3DB\$5.10B4.24BD\$4.4B10.26B\$3.4B12.22B\$2. 4B13.12B5.5B\$2.2A15.9B6.5BAB\$3.A14.11B5.4BABA2.2B\$3A16.7B.B2A5.2BA2BA 3B2A\$A20.4B2.BA.A4.3B2A2B.B2A\$20.B2A2B5.A3.AB2.5B.B\$21.2A7.2A.A.A4.2B \$31.A.2A4.2B\$29.A8.B2AB\$29.2A8.2A! #C [[ VIEWONLY THUMBNAIL ZOOM 13 ]]```

The Turtle
Posts: 102
Joined: May 6th, 2015, 8:14 pm
Location: Chicago, Illinois

Scorbie wrote:I second the welcome.
That is a cool thing indeed. AHow did you find it?
I was trying to find a way to turn this (below) back into an Eater 2, but I found this reaction instead.

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``````x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2bobo\$b2ob3o\$o6bo\$b2ob3o\$2bobo\$2bobo\$3bo!
``````
I only know a little bit of JavaScript, and I don't know Perl or Python so I cannot write scripts. I found this by trial and error.
Only two things are constant: change and the speed of light.

Scorbie
Posts: 1464
Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am

The Turtle wrote: I found this by trial and error.
I see! Thought you may used a special search utility.

Things _never_ work out when you try them:

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``````x = 28, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
14b2o\$13bobo\$13bo7bo\$12b2o5b3o\$18bo\$18b2o\$14b2o\$14b2o8\$3b2o2b2o\$3b2ob
2o\$8bo6\$26b2o\$26b2o\$2o\$2o!
``````
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

Sphenocorona
Posts: 494
Joined: April 9th, 2013, 11:03 pm

Pond is almost restored, having moved one cell over:

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``````x = 7, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
.2C\$C2.C\$C2.C\$.2C12\$3.C\$2.C.C\$.C3.C\$2.3C\$2C3.2C!``````

Kazyan
Posts: 1001
Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm

``````x = 15, y = 19, rule = B3/S23