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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Ian07 » February 20th, 2019, 6:05 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:The front end moves at c/2, the back end moves at 12c/13:

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x = 79, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
10b4o$10bo3bo$10bo$b2o8bo$2ob2o$b4o3bo4bobo$2b2o3bo5bo2bo6bo5bo5bo5bo
5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo4b3o$6bo2bo6bo6bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo4bobo$2b2o3bo
5bo2bo6bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo4b3o$b4o3bo4bobo$2ob2o$b2o8bo$10bo$
10bo3bo$10b4o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by AforAmpere » February 20th, 2019, 6:06 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:12c/13
That is actually 12c/26.
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules.

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- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule
- Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » February 20th, 2019, 9:03 pm

AforAmpere wrote:
testitemqlstudop wrote:12c/13
That is actually 12c/26.
Wow, that's actually close to being a c/2 in its own right.
EDIT: Crystal:

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x = 500, y = 502, rule = B3/S23
485bo$484bobo$484bobo$485bo5$487bo$486bobo$481bo4bobo$480bobo4bo9b2o$
479bo2bo13bo2bo$480b2o9b2o4b2o$490bo2bo$470bo20b2o$469bobo$469bobo$
470bo$487b2o$487bobo$488bo2$472b2o$472b2o2$482b2o$481bo2bo$482b2o7$
465bo$465b2o$464bobo14$449bo$449b2o$448bobo14$433bo$433b2o$432bobo14$
417bo$417b2o$416bobo14$401bo$401b2o$400bobo14$385bo$385b2o$384bobo14$
369bo$369b2o$368bobo14$353bo$353b2o$352bobo14$337bo$337b2o$336bobo14$
321bo$321b2o$320bobo14$305bo$305b2o$304bobo14$289bo$289b2o$288bobo14$
273bo$273b2o$272bobo14$257bo$257b2o$256bobo14$241bo$241b2o$240bobo14$
225bo$225b2o$224bobo14$209bo$209b2o$208bobo14$193bo$193b2o$192bobo14$
177bo$177b2o$176bobo14$161bo$161b2o$160bobo14$145bo$145b2o$144bobo14$
129bo$129b2o$128bobo14$113bo$113b2o$112bobo14$97bo$97b2o$96bobo14$81bo
$81b2o$80bobo14$65bo$65b2o$64bobo14$49bo$49b2o$48bobo14$33bo$33b2o$32b
obo14$17bo$17b2o$16bobo14$bo$b2o$obo!
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by testitemqlstudop » February 23rd, 2019, 4:36 pm

This LOM-to-B leaving behind a beehive:

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$7bo$5bobo$5b2o2$2b2o$b2o$2o!
EDIT: Knightwise beehive pull

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x = 5, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
3o$bo2$3bo$2bobo$2bobo$3bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » February 24th, 2019, 1:18 am

Stupidest component I've ever come across:

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x = 14, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
11bobo$10bo2bo$11bobo4$9b2o$9b2o3$3b3o$2o4bo$o2bo3bo$6bo$5bo$3bo$3bo$
2b2o!
EDIT: The explosion at the northeast is one that I haven't seen occur naturally before:

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x = 18, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o4$11bo$10b2o$11bo4bo$15bobo$16bo!
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'Sir, I exist!'
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by mniemiec » February 24th, 2019, 2:38 am

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:The explosion at the northeast is one that I haven't seen occur naturally before: ...
That's just an elementary collision of two honeyfarm predecessors.

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by A for awesome » February 24th, 2019, 8:26 pm

68p16 internally deletes a block:

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x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
10b2o3b2o$10b2o3b2o$6bo$2o3b2o$2o2bo10bo$5bo3b2o2b2obo$5bo3bo6b2o2$2o$2o3bo3b
2o2b2o$5b2o2b2o3bo3b2o$18b2o2$2b2o6bo3bo$3bob2o2b2o3bo$4bo10bo2b2o$13b2o3b2o
$13bo$3b2o3b2o$3b2o3b2o!
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V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Entity Valkyrie » February 24th, 2019, 8:40 pm

Hdjensofjfnen wrote: EDIT: Transparent boats:

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x = 24, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
5b2o10b2o$4bo2bo8bo2bo$7b2o6b2o$bo5b3o4b3o5bo$obo3bo2bo4bo2bo3bobo$b2o
3b3o6b3o3b2o2$b2o3b3o6b3o3b2o$obo3bo2bo4bo2bo3bobo$bo5b3o4b3o5bo$7b2o
6b2o$4bo2bo8bo2bo$5b2o10b2o!
Rich's P16

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » February 24th, 2019, 8:53 pm

Entity Valkyrie wrote:
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: EDIT: Transparent boats:

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x = 24, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
5b2o10b2o$4bo2bo8bo2bo$7b2o6b2o$bo5b3o4b3o5bo$obo3bo2bo4bo2bo3bobo$b2o
3b3o6b3o3b2o2$b2o3b3o6b3o3b2o$obo3bo2bo4bo2bo3bobo$bo5b3o4b3o5bo$7b2o
6b2o$4bo2bo8bo2bo$5b2o10b2o!
Rich's P16
I know, but what I realized was that the boats end up in the same place. Maybe not a coincidence. Also, wiki tags provide links to the wiki? :o
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Entity Valkyrie » February 24th, 2019, 10:51 pm

2718281828 wrote:A phi-spark + a domino spark give a copy of it plus two tubs (see gen. 22):

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x = 5, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
3.2E2$2.A$.3A$A.A.A$A.A.A$.3A$2.A!
That gave me an idea:

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x = 25, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o4$15b2o2$14bo$13b3o$12bobobo$12bobobo$13b3o$14bo$2o$2o21$
23b2o$23b2o$10bo$9b3o$8bobobo$8bobobo$9b3o$10bo2$8b2o4$13b2o$13b2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Entity Valkyrie » February 25th, 2019, 8:28 pm

Is this B-to-TL known?

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x = 7, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b2o4$2o$b2o$2o$o!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Moosey » February 25th, 2019, 8:37 pm

Entity Valkyrie wrote:Is this B-to-TL known?

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x = 7, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b2o4$2o$b2o$2o$o!
I can't verify, but I'm tempted to say yes-- It's a reaction between a b and a block.
Technically, though, as the B leaves its block, it's not a conduit. You could string it up to conduit 1, however, to get a true conduit.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by testitemqlstudop » February 25th, 2019, 9:07 pm

it WOULD have been a Herschel parent at gen 19 without the block

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ » February 26th, 2019, 10:46 pm

A methuselah that takes 1,147 gens to stabilize:

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x = 6, y = 3, rule = Life
bo2bo$2b2o$6o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » February 26th, 2019, 11:34 pm

Close to p3 but not really. Dim hope that it can be hassled.

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x = 22, y = 6, rule = LifeHistory
.2D16.2C$ACA15.C2.C$2.C15.C2.C$3.C$2.C.C14.2CD$3.C17.A!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » February 26th, 2019, 11:42 pm

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Close to p3 but not really. Dim hope that it can be hassled.

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x = 22, y = 6, rule = LifeHistory
.2D16.2C$ACA15.C2.C$2.C15.C2.C$3.C$2.C.C14.2CD$3.C17.A!
Also:

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
2o$obo$bo$3b3o2$4bo!
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EDIT:
Stabilised:

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x = 23, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10bobo$11bo$13b3o2$14bo5bo$12bo2bo2bo2bo$5b2o15bo$b2ob4ob2ob2ob
4ob2o$o15b2o$bo2bo2bo2bo$2bo6bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » February 27th, 2019, 11:49 am

Blinker turns to edgy block:

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x = 13, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
3o2$9b3o$9bo2bo$10b2o!
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Moosey » February 27th, 2019, 1:53 pm

Is this near-inaccessible pi eater known?

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2o$bo3bo$2b3o2$7o$o2bo2bo2$2b3o$2bobo$2bobo!
I suppose It’s not awful; pre-pis work.

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$2bo2bo$2b3o2$7o$o2bo2bo3$2b3o$2bo2bo!
Those displayed on lifewiki fit differently; this might reduce some conduits.
But it’s probably known.
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Post by Freywa » February 27th, 2019, 3:08 pm

Moosey wrote:Is this near-inaccessible pi eater known?

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2o$bo3bo$2b3o2$7o$o2bo2bo2$2b3o$2bobo$2bobo!
I suppose It’s not awful; pre-pis work.

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$2bo2bo$2b3o2$7o$o2bo2bo3$2b3o$2bo2bo!
Those displayed on lifewiki fit differently; this might reduce some conduits.
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Moosey » February 28th, 2019, 4:23 pm

AK-94 type thing:

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x = 95, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
48b2o3b2o$46b3obo2b2o$45bo4bo$45bo2b2ob4o$44b2obobobo2bo$45bobobobo$
45bobob2o$46bo2$59b2o$50bo8bo$49b3o5bobo$48b5o4b2o$47b2o3b2o$46b3o3b3o
$47b2o3b2o$48b5o$49b3o$48b3o$47b2o$48bo$45b3o$45bo5$6b2o7bo7b2o$7bo7b
3o5b2o$7bobo8bo$8b2o7b2o2$20bo$19bobo48bo$5bo12bo3bo46b2o$5b3o10bo3bo
8b2ob2o33bobo$8bo9bo3bo8b2obo2bo$7b2o10bobo12bob2o$20bo13bo$33b2o$30bo
bo2b2o$2b2ob2o23b2o2bo2bo$o2bob2o28b2o$2obo$3bo86bo$3b2o67b2o14b5o$b2o
2bobo65bo13bo5bo$o2bo2b2o65bobo12b3o2bo$b2o16b2o53b2o15bob2o$19bo68b4o
2bo$13b2o5b3o7bo52b2o3bo3b2o$13b2o7bo8b2o50b2o4b3o$30b2o59bo$91bob2o$
90b2ob2o2$72b2o$55b2o7bo8b2o7b2o$55b2o5b3o7bo9bo$61bo21b3o$61b2o22bo4$
74bo$72b3o$71bo$71b2o3$62bo$61bobo9b2ob2o$60bo3bo8b2obo2bo$60bo3bo11bo
b2o$60bo3bo11bo$61bobo11b2o$62bo9bobo2b2o$72b2o2bo2bo$59b2o16b2o$60bo$
57b3o5b2o$57bo7b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by pcallahan » February 28th, 2019, 7:36 pm

Here is a useless collision that could be thought of as glider bowling.

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x = 20, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
15bo$15bo$15bo3$14b2o$14b2o$18b2o$14b2o2b2o$14b2o9$b2o$obo$2bo!
I can't do much with that, but it is rare to find a collision that preserves all the components. The initial cluster is "natural" in the sense that I got it by generating small starting seeds. Before we had examples of stable reflectors, it was speculated that a reflector could be a magic glider-preserving self-restoring cluster (with the parts back in the right place unlike this). It is very unlikely once you get beyond blocks and blinkers, and those don't work as reflectors.

I am not sure the space has been fully explored to find clusters that are not exactly the same but can be used for later collisions with single gliders. Add catalysts, and eventually you get a stable reflector, but catalysts also take up diagonals. Anyway... I am trying to find something useful this way. Still trying.

Here are some collisions between gliders and natural clusters that produce a glider, an spaceship and not much additional debris. I don't know if all or any are new. Is anyone else looking for these? They are not very useful but could be part of a slow synthesis.

MWSS + glider

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
6b3o2$3b2o$2bo2bo$3b2o4bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo2$b2o$obo$2bo$!
LWSS + 2 gliders

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x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
13bo$13bobo$13b2o2$6b2o$5bo2bo$2o3bobo$2o4bo3$5bo$4bobo$4bobo$5bo$!
LWSS + glider

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$2o3b2o$2o3$3b2o$2bo2bo$2bobo$3bo6b2o$10bobo$10bo$!
LWSS + glider

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$2o3b2o$2o$10bo$10bobo$3b2o5b2o$2bo2bo$2bobo$3bo$!
LWSS + glider

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x = 13, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$10bobo$6b2o3bo$5bobo$5b2o5$b2o$obo$2bo$!
LWSS + glider

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
11b3o$b2o4b2o$obo4bobo$2bo5bo3$15bo$14bobo$10b2o2bobo$10b2o3bo$!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Moosey » February 28th, 2019, 7:41 pm

pcallahan wrote:Here is a useless collision that could be thought of as glider bowling.

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x = 20, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
15bo$15bo$15bo3$14b2o$14b2o$18b2o$14b2o2b2o$14b2o9$b2o$obo$2bo!
I can't do much with that, but it is rare to find a collision that preserves all the components. The initial cluster is "natural" in the sense that I got it by generating small starting seeds. Before we had examples of stable reflectors, it was speculated that a reflector could be a magic glider-preserving self-restoring cluster (with the parts back in the right place unlike this). It is very unlikely once you get beyond blocks and blinkers, and those don't work as reflectors.

...
Here's a similar reaction that produces a whole lot of extra junk:

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x = 8, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o3bo$5bo$5bo5$5b3o$5bo$6bo!
also:

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
13bo$12bo$12b3o8$2o$2o4b2o$6b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by pcallahan » February 28th, 2019, 8:02 pm

Moosey wrote: Here's a similar reaction that produces a whole lot of extra junk:
Well, the point is not to produce extra junk. If you could keep the block and blinker in the same place along with extra junk, that would be more interesting, though also useless.

Here's a possibly useful resettable glider shifter that I found around 1994 (first as far as I know) and forgot about for years.

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x = 81, y = 80
2bo$obo$b2o67$72b2o5b2o$72b2o5b2o5$79b2o$79b2o$67b2o$66bobo$68bo!
I don't remember how it came up, but it is based on this reaction with a block catalyst and I put the other catalyst in a symmetric location.

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x = 19, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
$8b2o$8b2o5$15b2o$15b2o$3b2o$2bobo$4bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by pcallahan » March 5th, 2019, 1:24 am

Useless because of what it would take to set up the three blocks, but I have never seen a glider act like such a honey badger. It comes out on the same diagonal, delayed by only 14 steps if I'm counting right. Trailing glider is just for reference.

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x = 37, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
35b2o$31b2o2b2o$31b2o6$34b2o$34b2o13$12b2o$11bobo$13bo8$2b2o$bobo$3bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Post by Moosey » March 6th, 2019, 3:37 pm

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x = 73, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
17b2o35b2o$16bo2bo33bo2bo$12bo4b2o4bo25bo4b2o4bo$12bobo6bobo25bobo6bob
o$2o11bobo4bobo11b2ob2o11bobo4bobo11b2o$2o11bo2bo2bo2bo11b2ob2o11bo2bo
2bo2bo11b2o$13bobo4bobo27bobo4bobo$12bobo6bobo25bobo6bobo$12bo10bo25bo
10bo$17b2o$17b2o35b2o$54b2o!
Two reactions with QBs revisiting beehive.
1. Eats block
2. Slightly different stabilization involving a block
I am a prolific creator of many rather pathetic googological functions

My CA rules can be found here

Also, the tree game
Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?"

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