B-fuse

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B-fuse

Post by towerator » September 11th, 2013, 12:54 pm

By encasing a B heptomino into 3 blocks, I managed to make a B-fuse!
It is perfectly clean, exactly like the pi-fuse, it's model.

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#CXRLE Pos=95,-249
x = 13, y = 266, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$
2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$
2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b
2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$
2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b
2o8$2o$2o6$2o4bo4b2o$2o3b3o3b2o$5bob2o!
The B reappears every 35 generations, moved up 17 cells for a total of (17/35)c. It means that it is right under the (1/2)c speed of the XWSS-class ships, and therefore can have a wickstretcher.
Here's some WIP:

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#CXRLE Pos=-5,-42
x = 16, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o8$2o$2o6$2o9b2o$2o9b2o3$11b2o$11b2o4$2o9b2o$2o10bo
$12bob2o$11b2ob2o6$10b2o$10b2o3$6bo$2o3b3o2b2o$2o2b2obo2b2o!
It may not be new, but I can't find it anywhere.
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Re: B-fuse

Post by towerator » September 12th, 2013, 2:31 am

I'll now try to make a B-fuse puffer, do you know any p37 rakes?
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Re: B-fuse

Post by calcyman » September 12th, 2013, 3:42 am

Last time I checked, 37 was prime, so a p37 rake would need a speed of kc/37, where k is between 1 and 18. Such long-period spaceships are outside the realms of searchability.
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Re: B-fuse

Post by codeholic » September 12th, 2013, 4:15 am

calcyman wrote:p37 rake would need a speed of kc/37
But only if you mean true p37, or?
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Re: B-fuse

Post by Freywa » September 12th, 2013, 5:46 am

calcyman wrote:Last time I checked, 37 was prime, so a p37 rake would need a speed of kc/37, where k is between 1 and 18. Such long-period spaceships are outside the realms of searchability.
To add to that, even if you've got spaceships, you'd still need to figure out how to combine said ships into a rake. Some ships may have no accessible sparks, and would thus be useless. I'm already singing ale-ola-ole to this idea - it just doesn't make the cut. Better to focus on the (13,1)c/31 spaceship construction plans.
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B2-a/S12
3bo23bo$2obo4bo13bo4bob2o$3bo4bo13bo4bo$2bo4bobo11bobo4bo$2bo25bo!

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Re: B-fuse

Post by towerator » September 12th, 2013, 6:59 am

After some thinking, I realized I don't need a p37 rake but a p 36 one. It may be easier to make.
However, I'll need both a rake and a backrake. I may also use a modified line puffer, like the pi-fuse puffer.
EDIT: after even more thinking, I realized I don't even need a backrake
Re-EDIT: But I would have been stuck on how to make a block by colliding a glider with a c/2 ship while returning the ship without this completely random discovery

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#CXRLE Pos=-11,-5
x = 18, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
14b4o$3bo9bo3bo$4b2o11bo$b3o5b2o2bo2bo$3o6b3o$b3o5b2o2bo2bo$4b2o11bo$
3bo9bo3bo$14b4o3$5b2o$6b2o$5bo!
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Re: B-fuse

Post by codeholic » September 12th, 2013, 3:11 pm

The lightest reaction of that kind is

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x = 5, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
o2bo$4bo$o3bo$b4o6$3o$2bo$bo!
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Re: B-fuse

Post by towerator » September 12th, 2013, 3:51 pm

Super nice.
I discovered that a p36 biblock-laying puffer would also do the trick, as it can be converted into a stream of gliders.
Or maybe a rake with filtered gliders...
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Re: B-fuse

Post by towerator » September 12th, 2013, 4:47 pm

Meh, I just discovered that I was wrong...
I need a p34 rake, not a P36.
Sorry :oops:
EDIT: According to game of life status, p34 does'nt exist, but p68 does. Then it's fine.
By the way, does anyone knw this rake?
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Re: B-fuse

Post by HartmutHolzwart » September 13th, 2013, 2:09 pm

the p68 rake is contained in Jason Summers c/2 rake collection

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Re: B-fuse

Post by towerator » September 14th, 2013, 2:36 am

And where can I find the collection?
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Re: B-fuse

Post by towerator » September 14th, 2013, 8:29 am

HURRAY!
I managed to find the jslife. Using the P68 rake, I built the entire puffer!

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#CXRLE Pos=7,-145
x = 383, y = 912, rule = B3/S23
152b3o3b3o$151bo2bo3bo2bo12bo$154bo3bo6b3o5b3o$154bo3bo3bobo2bo5bob2o$
151bobo4bo3bobo2bo6b3o$158bo10b2o3b3o$158bo4bob6o3b3o$159bob6ob2o4b2o
4$162b3o9bo4b3o$162bo2bo7b3o3bo2bo$163b2o7b2obo3bo$172b3o4bo3bo$173b2o
4bo3bo$178b2o$178b2o$178b2ob2o$170b3o5bo2b2o$162bo7bo2bo3b2ob2o4bo$
162bo7bo7bobo4b3o$162bo7bo3bo4bo4b2obo$170bo3bo9b3o$170bo13b3o$162b2o
7bobo10b3o$162b2o21b2o6$177bobo42b3o3b3o$177b2o29bo12bo2bo3bo2bo$160bo
17bo28b3o5b3o6bo3bo$159bobo44b2obo5bo2bobo3bo3bo$160b2o44b3o6bo2bobo3b
o4bobo$206b3o3b2o10bo$206b3o3b6obo4bo$207b2o4b2ob6obo$161b2o$161b2o2$
201b3o4bo9b3o$173bobo24bo2bo3b3o7bo2bo$173b2o28bo3bob2o7b2o$174bo24bo
3bo4b3o$199bo3bo4b2o$203b2o$203b2o$200b2ob2o$162b2o36b2o2bo5b3o$161bo
2bo31bo4b2ob2o3bo2bo7bo$161bobo31b3o4bobo7bo7bo$162bo32bob2o4bo4bo3bo
7bo$196b3o9bo3bo$169bobo24b3o13bo$162b2o5b2o25b3o10bobo7b2o$162b2o6bo
25b2o21b2o6$203bobo$204b2o$160bo43bo17bo$159bobo59bobo$160b2o3bobo53b
2o$165b2o$166bo2$161b2o57b2o$161b2o57b2o3$207bobo$208b2o$208bo$168bo$
161bobo3b3o$161b2o3b2obo$155bo6bo3b3o$154b3o9b3o50b2o$154bob2o8b3o49bo
2bo$155b3o9b2o50bobo$155b3o62bo$155b3o$155b2o54bobo$212b2o5b2o$212bo6b
2o8$222bo$221bobo$215bobo3b2o$175bo40b2o$175b2o39bo$174bobo$220b2o$
189bo30b2o$188b3o$188bob2o$189b3o$189b2o2$214bo$213b3o3bobo$213bob2o3b
2o$214b3o3bo6bo$214b3o9b3o$214b3o8b2obo$214b2o9b3o$225b3o$225b3o$226b
2o3$126bo5bo$125b3o3b3o$110b3o6bo4b2obo3bob2o50b2o$110bo2bo4b3o3b3o5b
3o50b2o$110bo6bo2b2o2b3o5b2o$110bo3bo5bo3b3o$110bo3bob5obob3o$110bo6bo
3b2o2b2o$2bo5bo102bobo$b3o3b3o$2obo3bob2o4bo6b3o182bo$3o5b3o3b3o4bo2bo
80bo18bo81b2o$b2o5b3o2b2o2bo6bo79b3o3b3o9b3o81bobo$8b3o3bo5bo3bo78b2ob
o2bo2bo9bob2o$8b3obob5obo3bo78b3o6bo80bo$8b2o2b2o3bo6bo78b3o2bo3bo79b
3o$21bobo79b3o2bo2bo8bob2o67b2obo$104bobo14b3o67b3o$105b2o14b3o68b2o$
10bo18bo84bo$10b3o9b3o3b3o82b3o$9b2obo9bo2bo2bob2o66b3o11b2obo$22bo6b
3o65bo2bo11b3o$22bo3bo2b3o68bo8bo2b3o$11b2obo8bo2bo2b3o64bo3bo11b3o$
11b3o14bobo65bo3bo3bob2obo3b2o7b3o$11b3o14b2o70bo3b4o$20bo76bobo$19b3o
$19bob2o11b3o85b2o$20b3o11bo2bo84b2o$20b3o2bo8bo$20b3o11bo3bo211bo5bo$
10b3o7b2o3bob2obo3bo3bo210b3o3b3o$27b4o3bo150b2o9b2o50b2obo3bob2o4bo6b
3o$35bobo147b2o9b2o50b3o5b3o3b3o4bo2bo$249b2o5b3o2b2o2bo6bo$11b2o96bo
146b3o3bo5bo3bo$11b2o97bo14bo130b3obob5obo3bo$108b3o13bobo129b2o2b2o3b
o6bo$124b2o143bobo102bo5bo$373b3o3b3o$358b3o6bo4b2obo3bob2o$258bo18bo
80bo2bo4b3o3b3o5b3o$123b2o133b3o9b3o3b3o79bo6bo2b2o2b3o5b2o$25bo97b2o
132b2obo9bo2bo2bob2o78bo3bo5bo3b3o$9bo14bo245bo6b3o78bo3bob5obob3o$8bo
bo13b3o243bo3bo2b3o78bo6bo3b2o2b2o$9b2o248b2obo8bo2bo2b3o79bobo$113bo
145b3o14bobo$114bo144b3o14b2o$112b3o153bo84bo18bo$10b2o255b3o82b3o3b3o
9b3o$10b2o255bob2o11b3o66b2obo2bo2bo9bob2o$268b3o11bo2bo65b3o6bo$122b
2o144b3o2bo8bo68b3o2bo3bo$121bo2bo143b3o11bo3bo64b3o2bo2bo8bob2o$21bo
100bobo133b3o7b2o3bob2obo3bo3bo65bobo14b3o$20bo102bo151b4o3bo70b2o14b
3o$20b3o260bobo76bo$361b3o$117bo4b2o135b2o85b3o11b2obo$118bo3b2o135b2o
84bo2bo11b3o$11b2o103b3o229bo8bo2b3o$10bo2bo330bo3bo11b3o$10bobo331bo
3bo3bob2obo3b2o7b3o$11bo173b2o9b2o150bo3b4o$185b2o9b2o147bobo2$11b2o4b
o255bo96b2o$11b2o3bo108bo131bo14bo97b2o$16b3o105bobo129bobo13b3o$124b
2o131b2o$121bo$122bo$120bo$124bo133b2o$122bobo133b2o97bo$9bo106b3o239b
o14bo$8bobo105bo2bo236b3o13bobo$9b2o105bo255b2o$13bo102bo3bo148bo$12bo
103bo151bo$14bo102bobo148b3o$10bo360b2o$10bobo112bo245b2o$126bo$124b3o
132b2o$16b3o239bo2bo$16bo2bo238bobo100bo$16bo242bo102bo$3b3o10bo3bo
339b3o$2bo2bo10bo3bo$5bo4bo5bo242b2o4bo$bo3bo3bobo5bobo239b2o3bo$bo3bo
2b2obo252b3o103b2o$5bo3b2o358bo2bo$2bobo365bobo$185b2o9b2o173bo$185b2o
9b2o2$365bo4b2o$257bo108bo3b2o$256bobo105b3o$257b2o$261bo$260bo$262bo$
258bo$258bobo$264b3o106bo$263bo2bo105bobo$25b3o238bo105b2o$27bo234bo3b
o102bo$26bo239bo103bo$263bobo102bo$372bo$257bo112bobo$256bo$256b3o$
364b3o$363bo2bo$366bo$362bo3bo10b3o$362bo3bo10bo2bo$366bo5bo4bo$363bob
o5bobo3bo3bo$371bob2o2bo3bo$41b3o328b2o3bo$43bo334bobo$42bo142b2o9b2o$
185b2o9b2o2$141bo$142bo$140b3o9$57b3o295b3o$59bo295bo$58bo297bo14$73b
3o263b3o$75bo263bo$74bo110b2o9b2o142bo$185b2o9b2o2$241bo$240bo$240b3o
9$89b3o231b3o$91bo231bo$90bo233bo3$157bo$158bo$156b3o9$105b3o199b3o$
107bo199bo$106bo78b2o9b2o110bo$185b2o9b2o13$121b3o167b3o$123bo167bo$
122bo169bo3$225bo$224bo$224b3o9$137b3o135b3o$139bo135bo$138bo46b2o9b2o
78bo$185b2o9b2o2$173bo$174bo$172b3o9$153b3o103b3o$155bo103bo$154bo105b
o14$169b3o71b3o$171bo71bo$170bo14b2o9b2o46bo$185b2o9b2o2$209bo$208bo$
208b3o8$126bo5bo$125b3o3b3o93b3o$110b3o6bo4b2obo3bob2o92bo$110bo2bo4b
3o3b3o5b3o50b2o41bo$110bo6bo2b2o2b3o5b2o51b2o$110bo3bo5bo3b3o$110bo3bo
b5obob3o$110bo6bo3b2o2b2o$2bo5bo102bobo$b3o3b3o$2obo3bob2o4bo6b3o96bo$
3o5b3o3b3o4bo2bo80bo15b2o$b2o5b3o2b2o2bo6bo79b3o3b3o$8b3o3bo5bo3bo78b
2obo2bo2bo$8b3obob5obo3bo78b3o6bo$8b2o2b2o3bo6bo78b3o2bo3bo$21bobo79b
3o2bo2bo$104bobo104b3o$13bo90b3o104bo$12b2o15bo75bo8bo7b3o60b2o9b2o14b
o$22b3o3b3o74b2o6b3o4b2o2bo60b2o9b2o$22bo2bo2bob2o66b3o11b2obo5b3o$22b
o6b3o65bo2bo11b3o7bo$22bo3bo2b3o68bo11b3o$23bo2bo2b3o64bo3bo11b3o7b2o$
28bobo65bo3bo12b2o7b2o$28b3o69bo7bo$10b3o7bo8bo67bobo9bo$10bo2b2o4b3o
6b2o75bo$11b3o5bob2o11b3o71bo$12bo7b3o11bo2bo67b3o$20b3o11bo$11b2o7b3o
11bo3bo$11b2o7b2o12bo3bo83b2o$26bo7bo86bo2bo$25bo9bobo84bobo60b2o9b2o$
29bo93bo61b2o9b2o$26bo$27b3o$122b2o$110bo11b2o$11b2o98bo$10bo2bo95b3o$
10bobo$11bo3$11b2o$11b2o11bo100bo$23bo100bobo$23b3o98b2o$185b2o9b2o$
114bo70b2o9b2o$115bo$113b3o7b2o$123b2o$9bo$8bobo$9b2o2$20bo$19bo$10b2o
7b3o$10b2o$118bo$119bo2b2o$117b3obo2bo$122bobo60b2o9b2o$123bo61b2o9b2o
3$122b2o$16bo105b2o$11b2o2bo$10bo2bob3o$10bobo$11bo110bo$123bo$116b3o
2b3o$11b2o103bo2bo$11b2o103bo8bo$116bo3bo3bobo$116bo7b2o$117bobo65b2o
9b2o$12bo172b2o9b2o$11bo$11b3o2$9bo6b3o$8bobo5bo2bo$9b2o5bo$3b3o10bo3b
o$2bo2bo10bo3bo$5bo10bo$bo3bo11bobo$bo3bo$5bo$2bobo2$185b2o9b2o$130bo
54b2o9b2o$14b3o114bo$16bo112b3o$15bo12$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$30b3o$32b
o$31bo12$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$46b3o$48bo$47bo12$185b2o9b2o$146bo38b2o
9b2o$62b3o82bo$64bo80b3o$63bo12$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$78b3o$80bo$79bo
12$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$94b3o$96bo$95bo12$185b2o9b2o$162bo22b2o9b2o$
110b3o50bo$112bo48b3o$111bo12$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$126b3o$128bo$127bo
12$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$142b3o$144bo$143bo9$126bo5bo$125b3o3b3o$110b
3o6bo4b2obo3bob2o$110bo2bo4b3o3b3o5b3o50b2o9b2o$110bo6bo2b2o2b3o5b2o
44bo6b2o9b2o$110bo3bo5bo3b3o31b3o18bo$110bo3bob5obob3o33bo16b3o$110bo
6bo3b2o2b2o32bo$2bo5bo102bobo$b3o3b3o$2obo3bob2o4bo6b3o96bo$3o5b3o3b3o
4bo2bo80bo15b2o$b2o5b3o2b2o2bo6bo79b3o3b3o$8b3o3bo5bo3bo78b2obo2bo2bo$
8b3obob5obo3bo78b3o6bo$8b2o2b2o3bo6bo78b3o2bo3bo$21bobo79b3o2bo2bo$
104bobo$13bo90b3o$12b2o15bo75bo8bo7b3o60b2o9b2o$22b3o3b3o74b2o6b3o4b2o
2bo60b2o9b2o$22bo2bo2bob2o66b3o11b2obo5b3o50b3o$22bo6b3o65bo2bo11b3o7b
o53bo$22bo3bo2b3o68bo11b3o60bo$23bo2bo2b3o64bo3bo11b3o7b2o$28bobo65bo
3bo12b2o7b2o$28b3o69bo7bo$10b3o7bo8bo67bobo9bo$10bo2b2o4b3o6b2o75bo$
11b3o5bob2o11b3o71bo$12bo7b3o11bo2bo67b3o$20b3o11bo$11b2o7b3o11bo3bo$
11b2o7b2o12bo3bo83b2o$26bo7bo86bo2bo$25bo9bobo84bobo60b2o9b2o$29bo93bo
61b2o9b2o$26bo$27b3o$122b2o$110bo11b2o$11b2o98bo$10bo2bo95b3o$10bobo$
11bo173b2o$185b2o2$11b2o$11b2o11bo100bo$23bo100bobo$23b3o98b2o$185b2o
9b2o$114bo70b2o9b2o$115bo$113b3o7b2o$123b2o$9bo$8bobo$9b2o2$20bo$19bo$
10b2o7b3o$10b2o$118bo$119bo2b2o$117b3obo2bo$122bobo60b2o9b2o$123bo61b
2o9b2o3$122b2o$16bo105b2o$11b2o2bo$10bo2bob3o$10bobo$11bo110bo62b2o$
123bo61b2o$116b3o2b3o$11b2o103bo2bo$11b2o103bo8bo$116bo3bo3bobo$116bo
7b2o$117bobo65b2o9b2o$12bo172b2o9b2o$11bo$11b3o2$9bo6b3o$8bobo5bo2bo$
9b2o5bo$3b3o10bo3bo$2bo2bo10bo3bo$5bo10bo$bo3bo11bobo$bo3bo$5bo$2bobo
2$185b2o9b2o$130bo54b2o9b2o$14b3o114bo$16bo112b3o$15bo5$185b2o$185b2o
6$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$30b3o$32bo$31bo12$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$46b3o$
48bo$47bo5$185b2o$185b2o6$185b2o9b2o$146bo38b2o9b2o$62b3o82bo$64bo80b
3o$63bo12$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$78b3o$80bo$79bo5$185b2o$185b2o6$185b2o
9b2o$185b2o9b2o$94b3o$96bo$95bo12$185b2o9b2o$162bo22b2o9b2o$110b3o50bo
$112bo48b3o$111bo5$185b2o$185b2o6$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$126b3o$128bo$
127bo12$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b2o$142b3o$144bo$143bo5$185b2o$185b2o6$185b
2o9b2o$178bo6b2o9b2o$158b3o18bo$160bo16b3o$159bo12$185b2o9b2o$185b2o9b
2o$174b3o$176bo$175bo5$185b2o$185b2o6$185b2o4bo4b2o$185b2o3b3o3b2o$
190bob2o!
It may be very, very barely optimized, but here's the B-fuse puffer.
P.S. I love how the B is a bit slower than the puffer
Thanks for all!

EDIT: Is this pattern a "growing ship"?
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Re: B-fuse

Post by dvgrn » September 14th, 2013, 9:25 am

towerator wrote:HURRAY!
I managed to find the jslife. Using the P68 rake, I built the entire puffer!
...
EDIT: Is this pattern a "growing ship"?
Yes, exactly. Nice work! There are a lot of possible speeds for the back end of a growing B-fuse spaceship, but I think an asymmetric 16c/35 back end is new. Seems like B's are more often lined up in mirror-symmetric pairs to keep them traveling straight. Here are a couple of random samples by Stephen Silver, back in 2000:

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#C growing spaceships with c/5 and 3c/7 back ends
x = 249, y = 110, rule = B3/S23
27b3o19b3o$26bo2bo19bo2bo$22bo6bo5bo7bo5bo6bo$21b3o5bo4b3o5b3o4bo5b3o$
20b2obo5bo3b2obo5bob2o3bo5bob2o$20b3o6bo3b3o7b3o3bo6b3o$20b3o6bo3b3o7b
3o3bo6b3o$20b3o6bo3b3o7b3o3bo6b3o$21b2o6bo4b2o7b2o4bo6b2o$26bo2bo19bo
2bo$28b2o19b2o$35bo7bo$34b3o5b3o$34bob2o3b2obo$35b3o3b3o$35b3o3b3o$35b
2o5b2o3$30b2o15b2o$30b2o15b2o9$29bo19bo$28bob2obo11bob2obo$29bobo2bo9b
o2bobo$31b3o11b3o$32bo2bo7bo2bo$33bo2bo5bo2bo81b3o3b3o97b3o3b3o$30b2ob
o3bo3bo3bob2o77bo2bo3bo2bo95bo2bo3bo2bo$29bo4bobo5bobo4bo79bo3bo101bo
3bo$30b2o15b2o80bo3bo101bo3bo$126bobo5bobo95bobo5bobo2$30b2o15b2o81b3o
103b3o$30b2o15b2o81b3o103b3o$129bobobo101bobobo4$122b3o3b2o3b2o3bo91bo
3b2o3b2o3b3o$121bo2bo4b2ob2o3b3o89b3o3b2ob2o4bo2bo$124bo4b2ob2o2b2obo
89bob2o2b2ob2o4bo$120bo3bo6bo4b3o91b3o4bo6bo3bo$30b2o15b2o71bo3bo11b3o
91b3o11bo3bo$30b2o15b2o75bo11b3o91b3o11bo$121bobo13b2o91b2o13bobo2$
126bo115bo$125b3o113b3o$124b2obo113bob2o$124b3o12b3o5b3o5b3o5b3o37b3o
5b3o5b3o5b3o12b3o$124b3o6bo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo37bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5b
o6b3o$124b3o5bobo2bo3bo5bo3bobo3bo5bo3bo3b3o5b3o5b3o5b3o3bo3bo5bo3bobo
3bo5bo3bo2bobo5b3o$30b2o15b2o76b2o4bo2bo4bo9bo5bo9bo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bo
bo5bo9bo5bo9bo4bo2bo4b2o$30b2o15b2o83b2o2bo32bo3bo5bo3bobo3bo5bo3bo32b
o2b2o$139bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo$137bo13bobo13bo33bo13bobo
13bo$138b2o9b2o3b2o9b2o4bo9bo5bo9bo4b2o9b2o3b2o9b2o$169bo13bobo13bo$
170b2o9b2o3b2o9b2o4$29bo19bo$28bob2obo11bob2obo$29bobo2bo9bo2bobo$31b
3o11b3o$32bo2bo7bo2bo$33bo2bo5bo2bo$30b2obo3bo3bo3bob2o$29bo4bobo5bobo
4bo$30b2o15b2o3$30b2o15b2o$30b2o15b2o9$30b2o15b2o$30b2o15b2o6$8bo3$30b
2o15b2o$9bo7bo12b2o15b2o12bo7bo$3b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o31b2obobob2o3b2o
bobob2o$3obob3o9b3obob3o25b3obob3o9b3obob3o$o3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo25bo3bo
bo5bobo5bobo3bo$4b2o6bobo6b2o33b2o6bobo6b2o$b2o9bobo9b2o27b2o9bobo9b2o
$b2ob2o15b2ob2o27b2ob2o15b2ob2o$5bo15bo35bo15bo!

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Re: B-fuse

Post by towerator » September 14th, 2013, 10:56 am

The funny part may be that the reaction was found by entire luck...
The 2 first blocks were originally closer, but I made them farther... because of a misclick. Understanding this had potency I tried some ways to place a 3rd block, and suddenly...
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Re: B-fuse

Post by skomick » September 15th, 2013, 7:13 pm

Here it is using a p32 rake:

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x = 82, y = 174, rule = B3/S23
43bo4b3o$42b3o3bo2bo$41b2obo3bo$41b3o4bo3bo$42b2o4bo3bo$47b2o7bo$47b2o
6b3o$39b3o6bobo3b2obo$38bo2bo12b3o$41bo6b2o4b3o$25b3o4bo4bo3bo12b3o$
24bo2bo3b3o3bo3bo13b2o$27bo3bob2o6bo$23bo3bo4b3o3bobo$23bo3bo4b2o12bo$
19bo7b2o17b2o$18b3o6b2o17bo$18bob2o3bobo19b2obo$19b3o4b2o19b2obo$19b3o
5b2o$19b2o4bob3o$25b3o2bo25bo$24bo3b2o18b2o5b3o$25bob2o18b2obo4bob2o$
27b2o18b5o4b3o$38bo8b5o4b3o$37b3o8bo2b2o3b2o$37bob2o7b3o$30b2o6b3o8bob
o$30bob3o3b3o5b2o2b2o$32b3o3b3o6b2o2bo$30bob2o4b2o8b3o$30b2o17bo3$46b
2o$45bo2bo$31bo14b2o$30b3o$29bobo$28bob3o$29bobo$29bo3bo$30b3o$30bo2bo
2$54bo4b3o$53b3o3bo2bo$45bo6b2obo3bo$44bo7b3o4bo3bo$44b3o6b2o4bo3bo$
58b2o7bo$29b2o27b2o6b3o$29b2o19b3o5b2ob2o2b2obo$49bo2bo5bo2b2o2b3o$52b
o4b2ob2o3b3o$48bo3bo5bobo4b3o$28b2o18bo3bo6bo6b2o$28b2o22bo$49bobo3$
57bo$15bo41bobo$8b3o3b3o42b2o$7bo2bo2b2obo41bobo$10bo2b3o43b2o$10bo2b
3o43bo7bo$7bobo4b2o50b3o$15bo5b3o42bob2o$20bo2bo35b2o6b3o$16bo6bo35b2o
6b3o$16bo2bo3bo13bo29b2o$12bo6bo3bo4b2o6bo$12bo10bo4b2o6b3o$6bo4bo3b2o
3bobo34b2o$5b3o4bo4bo38bo2bo$4b2obo7bo41b2o$4b3o6b3o$4b3o$5b2o$11bob2o
$9b3o2bo$9bo2b2o$8b2obo$9b2o48bo$10bo47bo$2b3o53b3o$bo2bo$4bo23b2o$o3b
o23b2o$o3bo14b3o$4bo7b2o7bo$bobo8b2o6bo3$6b3o20bo$5bo2bo19bo$8bo18bo2b
o$4bo3bo18bo2bo35bo$8bo20bo35b3o3b3o$5bobo20bo36bob2o2bo2bo$66b3o2bo$
66b3o2bo$66b2o4bobo$28b2o28b3o5bo$28b2o28bo2bo7bo$58bo5b2o3bo$58bo3bo$
51bo6bo3bobobob2o$50bo7bo6b2ob2o$50b3o6bobo5bo7bo$74b3o$74bob2o$28b2o
45b3o$28b2o38bo6b3o$67b3o5b2o$67b2obo$70b2o$67b4o$67b3o$28b2o$28b2o$
77b3o$77bo2bo$77bo$61b3o4b2o7bo3bo$61bo6b2o7bo3bo$62bo14bo$78bobo$28b
2o$28b2o$73b3o$43bo29bo2bo$42bo10b3o17bo$42b3o8bo19bo3bo$54bo18bo$28b
2o44bobo$28b2o4$45b3o$45bo$46bo2$28b2o$28b2o6$28b2o4bo4b2o$28b2o3b3o3b
2o$33bob2o3$31bo$30bo$28bo3b2o$34bo$32bob2ob2o$28bo5bo2b2o$29b6o$33b2o
$32b2ob3o$33b2ob2o$34bob2o$35b3o$34bob2o$33bo4bo$33bo$34b4o!
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Re: B-fuse

Post by codeholic » September 16th, 2013, 1:03 am

Why not then :wink:

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x = 69, y = 142, rule = B3/S23
43bo4b3o$42b3o3bo2bo$41b2obo3bo$41b3o4bo3bo$42b2o4bo3bo$47b2o7bo$47b2o
6b3o$39b3o6bobo3b2obo$38bo2bo12b3o$41bo6b2o4b3o$25b3o4bo4bo3bo12b3o$
24bo2bo3b3o3bo3bo13b2o$27bo3bob2o6bo$23bo3bo4b3o3bobo$23bo3bo4b2o12bo$
19bo7b2o17b2o$18b3o6b2o17bo$18bob2o3bobo19b2obo$19b3o4b2o19b2obo$19b3o
5b2o$19b2o4bob3o$25b3o2bo25bo$24bo3b2o18b2o5b3o$25bob2o18b2obo4bob2o$
27b2o18b5o4b3o$38bo8b5o4b3o$37b3o8bo2b2o3b2o$37bob2o7b3o$30b2o6b3o8bob
o$30bob3o3b3o5b2o2b2o$32b3o3b3o6b2o2bo$30bob2o4b2o8b3o$30b2o17bo3$46b
2o$45bo2bo$31bo14b2o$30b3o$29bobo$28bob3o$29bobo$29bo3bo$30b3o$30bo2bo
4$45bo$44bo$44b3o2$29b2o$29b2o4$28b2o$28b2o5$15bo$8b3o3b3o$7bo2bo2b2ob
o$10bo2b3o$10bo2b3o$7bobo4b2o$15bo5b3o$20bo2bo29bo$16bo6bo28b3o3b3o$
16bo2bo3bo13bo14bob2o2bo2bo$12bo6bo3bo4b2o6bo16b3o2bo$12bo10bo4b2o6b3o
14b3o2bo$6bo4bo3b2o3bobo30b2o4bobo$5b3o4bo4bo27b3o5bo$4b2obo7bo29bo2bo
7bo$4b3o6b3o29bo5b2o3bo$4b3o38bo3bo$5b2o38bo3bobobob2o$11bob2o30bo6b2o
b2o$9b3o2bo31bobo5bo7bo$9bo2b2o47b3o$8b2obo49bob2o$9b2o51b3o$10bo44bo
6b3o$2b3o49b3o5b2o$bo2bo49b2obo$4bo23b2o27b2o$o3bo23b2o24b4o$o3bo14b3o
32b3o$4bo7b2o7bo$bobo8b2o6bo$64b3o$64bo2bo$6b3o20bo34bo$5bo2bo19bo19b
3o4b2o7bo3bo$8bo18bo2bo17bo6b2o7bo3bo$4bo3bo18bo2bo18bo14bo$8bo20bo5b
3o27bobo$5bobo20bo6bo2bo$35bo$35bo24b3o$36bobo21bo2bo$28b2o10b3o17bo$
28b2o10bo19bo3bo$41bo18bo$61bobo6$28b2o$28b2o6$28b2o4bo4b2o$28b2o3b3o
3b2o$33bob2o3$31bo$30bo$28bo3b2o$34bo$32bob2ob2o$28bo5bo2b2o$29b6o$33b
2o$32b2ob3o$33b2ob2o$34bob2o$35b3o$34bob2o$33bo4bo$33bo$34b4o!
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Re: B-fuse

Post by towerator » September 16th, 2013, 1:29 am

WOAH :shock:
When I said it was barely optimized, I didn't expect it to be THAT true!
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Re: B-fuse

Post by towerator » September 28th, 2013, 4:15 pm

Today I tried to create a smaller B fuse.
Success!

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x = 50, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
7$13bo$12b3o$11b2obo$5b3o3b3o4b3o$5bo2bo2b3o4bo2bo$5bo5b3o4bo$5bo3bob
3o4bo3bo$5bo3bob3o4bo3bo$5bo6b2o4bo$6bobo4bo5bobo3$5b3o3b3o$4bo2bo3b3o
$7bo$3bo3bo16bo$7bo15b3o$4bobo15b2obo$16b3o3b3o4b3o$16bo2bo2b3o4bo2bo$
16bo5b3o4bo$16bo3bob3o4bo3bo$10b2o4bo3bob3o4bo3bo$10b2o4bo6b2o4bo$17bo
bo4bo5bobo3$16b3o3b3o$15bo2bo3b3o$18bo$14bo3bo$18bo$10b2o3bobo$10b2o2$
16bo$15b3o$15bob2o2b2o$21b2o!
This new B-fuse is glide symmetric. It is also faster than the V1, being c/2.
The "B-fuse extensible spaceship" is also way smaller than the previous.
by the way, here's a really, REALLLY dirty B-fuse.

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[M2] (golly 2.4)
#R B3/S23
..**$..**$$$$$$..**$
$$$$$$$.....**$
..**$
.....**$
4 1 2 3 4
$$$$...**$...**$
4 0 0 0 6
$$$$$$$**$
4 0 0 8 0
5 5 0 7 9
.**$.**$
**$**$
...**$...**$
4 0 11 12 13
**$
4 15 0 0 0
$...**$...**$
4 0 17 12 13
5 14 16 18 0
6 0 10 0 19
7 0 0 0 20
.....**$.....**$
4 0 22 0 0
5 0 0 0 23
$$$$$..**$..**$
4 0 0 25 0
$....**$....**$
$..**$..**$
$.....**$.....**$
4 27 0 28 29
5 26 0 30 0
$$..**$..**$
4 32 0 28 29
$$$$$$...**$...**$
4 0 0 0 34
5 33 0 35 0
6 24 31 0 36
$$.**$.**$
$$**$**$
$$...**$...**$
4 0 38 39 40
$**$**$
4 42 0 0 0
$$$...**$...**$
4 0 44 39 40
5 41 43 45 0
$$.....**$.....**$
4 0 47 0 0
5 0 0 0 48
$$$$$$$..**$
4 0 0 50 0
..**$$$....**$....**$
$$$..**$..**$
$$$.....**$.....**$
4 52 0 53 54
5 51 0 55 0
6 0 46 49 56
7 0 37 0 57
8 0 21 0 58
$$$$..**$..**$
4 60 0 53 54
5 61 0 0 0
...**$...**$$$.**$.**$
$$$$**$**$
4 0 63 64 6
$$$**$**$
4 66 0 0 0
$$$$$...**$...**$
4 0 68 64 6
5 65 67 69 0
6 0 62 0 70
$$$$.....**$.....**$
4 0 72 0 0
5 0 0 0 73
$..**$..**$$$....**$....**$
$$$$$.....**$.....**$
4 75 0 25 76
5 0 0 77 0
$$$$$$..**$..**$
4 79 0 25 76
5 80 0 0 0
6 74 78 0 81
7 0 71 0 82
$$...**$...**$$$.**$.**$
$$$$$$**$**$
4 0 84 85 34
$$$$$**$**$
4 87 0 0 0
$$$$$$$...**$
...**$$$$$$...**$...**$
4 0 89 85 90
5 86 88 91 0
$$$$$$.....**$.....**$
4 0 93 0 0
5 0 0 0 94
$$$..**$..**$$$....**$
....**$$$$$$$..**$
4 96 0 97 2
5 0 0 98 0
6 0 92 95 99
4 3 4 1 2
4 3 4 0 0
5 101 0 102 0
4 0 6 0 11
4 8 0 15 0
4 12 13 0 17
5 104 105 106 0
6 0 103 0 107
7 0 100 0 108
8 0 83 0 109
9 0 59 0 110
4 0 0 0 22
5 0 0 0 112
4 12 13 0 0
4 25 0 27 0
5 114 0 115 0
4 28 29 32 0
4 28 29 0 0
5 117 0 118 0
6 113 116 0 119
4 0 34 0 38
4 0 0 42 0
4 39 40 0 44
5 121 122 123 0
4 0 0 0 47
5 0 0 0 125
4 39 40 0 0
4 50 0 52 0
5 127 0 128 0
6 0 124 126 129
7 0 120 0 130
4 53 54 60 0
4 53 54 0 0
5 132 0 133 0
4 0 0 0 63
4 0 0 66 0
4 64 6 0 68
5 135 136 137 0
6 0 134 0 138
4 0 0 0 72
5 0 0 0 140
4 64 6 0 0
4 0 0 75 0
5 142 0 143 0
4 25 76 79 0
4 25 76 0 0
5 145 0 146 0
6 141 144 0 147
7 0 139 0 148
8 0 131 0 149
4 0 0 0 84
4 0 0 87 0
4 85 34 0 89
5 151 152 153 0
4 0 0 0 93
5 0 0 0 155
4 85 90 0 0
4 0 0 96 0
5 157 0 158 0
6 0 154 156 159
4 97 2 3 4
5 161 0 5 0
5 7 9 14 16
6 0 162 0 163
7 0 160 0 164
5 18 0 26 0
5 0 23 0 0
5 30 0 33 0
6 0 166 167 168
5 35 0 41 43
5 45 0 51 0
6 0 170 0 171
7 0 169 0 172
8 0 165 0 173
9 0 150 0 174
10 0 111 0 175
5 0 48 0 0
$$$..**$..**...*$.......*$
$$$*....**$**...**$.**$
4 52 0 178 179
5 180 0 0 0
6 177 181 0 0
7 0 182 0 0
8 0 183 0 0
9 0 184 0 0
10 0 185 0 0
11 0 176 0 186
12 0 0 187 0
As the escaping gliders show, this fuse is sightly under c/4.

Fact: This fuse is glide-symmetric, but the mess it creates isn't.

EDIT: Noticing the "B-fuseship" creates spark, I created a B-fuseship engine puffer

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x = 35, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
4$13b3o$13bo2bo$7bo5bo6bo$6b3o4bo5b3o$6bob2o3bo5bob2o$7b3o3bo6b3o$7b3o
3bo6b3o$7b3o3bo6b3o$7b2o5bo5b2o$15bo2$7bo4b2o$6b3o4b2o$5b2obo$5b3o$5b
3o16b3o$6b2o16bo2bo$18bo5bo6bo$17b3o4bo5b3o$17bob2o3bo5bob2o$18b3o3bo
6b3o$11b2o5b3o3bo6b3o$11b2o5b3o3bo6b3o$18b2o5bo5b2o$26bo2$18bo4b2o$17b
3o4b2o$16b2obo$16b3o$16b3o$11b2o4b2o$11b2o3$16b3o$15bo2bo3b2o$19bo2b2o
$5b3o6bo12b3o$5bo2bo5bo5bo6bo2bo$5bo9b2o3bo6bo$5bo8b2o2bo8bo3bo$5bo3b
2o2bo3b2o8bo$6bobo2b2ob4o10bobo$11b6o2$13bo2bo3b3o$12bo5b2o2bo$16bo4bo
$11bo3bob2o2b2o$13b2o$13bo$12b2o$12b2ob2o2$21b2o!
A nice glide-symmetric p20!
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