Unlisted Methuselah, Hexomino?

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Unlisted Methuselah, Hexomino?

Post by BenCakir » November 4th, 2013, 6:17 pm

I made this Hexomino Methuselah pattern in Golly. It looks like a Thunderbird without a gap between the blinkers, and resolves to a similar arrangement. However, I don't see this pattern listed anywhere on the wiki, and so my question is this: is this Hexomino new, or does it have a name?

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
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Re: Unlisted Methuselah, Hexomino?

Post by Extrementhusiast » November 4th, 2013, 9:09 pm

That's a predecessor to the pi heptomino.
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Re: Unlisted Methuselah, Hexomino?

Post by BenCakir » November 5th, 2013, 1:04 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote:That's a predecessor to the pi heptomino.
Then why isn't the pi-heptomino not listed, and the predecessor listed as a real thing? If it is a parent, why isn't it important at all? Is there something I am not getting?

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Re: Unlisted Methuselah, Hexomino?

Post by codeholic » November 5th, 2013, 3:24 pm

BenCakir wrote:Then why isn't the pi-heptomino not listed, and the predecessor listed as a real thing? If it is a parent, why isn't it important at all? Is there something I am not getting?
Because there are infinite number of predecessors of pi-heptomino or any other pattern. By the way, the hexamino you mentioned is strictly not a pi-heptomino predecessor, but it doesn't matter anyway, because it ends up in the same evolutionary sequence.
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Re: Unlisted Methuselah, Hexomino?

Post by Tropylium » November 10th, 2013, 2:34 am

General rule of thumb: if you have a new methuselah and it's
1) under 8 cells, it's already known
2) under 1500 generations, we don't care

That said though, listing some sort of Common Precedessors tables on the wiki might be a good idea. I've got decent-sized collections for a few of them (R ∏ LoM tl hf) assembled, maybe I'll post those next time I'm editing around there.

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Re: Unlisted Methuselah, Hexomino?

Post by TWLife » November 19th, 2013, 3:05 am

Tropylium wrote:General rule of thumb: if you have a new methuselah and it's
1) under 8 cells, it's already known
2) under 1500 generations, we don't care

That said though, listing some sort of Common Precedessors tables on the wiki might be a good idea. I've got decent-sized collections for a few of them (R ∏ LoM tl hf) assembled, maybe I'll post those next time I'm editing around there.
unless the methuselah has a cool thing or two about it

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