Four cowboys shooting a hat

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Four cowboys shooting a hat

Post by almost_retired » April 15th, 2014, 10:38 am

For this, I needed guns with greater period (208 this time):

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#N Four cowboys shooting a hat
x = 225, y = 214, rule = B3/S23
195b2o9bo$194bo2bo3b3ob2o2b2o$193bobobo3b4o4b2o$192b3obo8b2o$192b3o$32
b2o184b2o$32bobo184bo$34bo181b3o$34b2o66b2o112bo$101bobo101b2o$101bo10
3b2o$100b2o$225b$225b$28b2o$28b2o17bo$46bobo12b2o$47bo13b3o42b2o84bo$2
7b2obo5b2o23b2obo23bo17b2o83bobo$28bobo5b2o25bobo7b2o12bobo102bo7bo7bo
$29bo24b2o6bo2bo6b3o13bo110b3o5bobo$28b2o19bo3bo2bo6b2o6bob2o23b2o5bob
2o89b2o2bo5bo$28b2o18b3o3b2o14bobo25b2o5bobo90b2ob3o$28b2o17bob2o19bo2
bo6b2o24bo85bo5b5o$46b2o2b2o19b2o6bo2bo3bo19b2o84bobo5bo$47b4o12b2o15b
2o3b3o18b2o84b2o$48b3o12b2o20b2obo17b2o95bo$28b2o54b2o2b2o112bobo$27bo
2bo40b2o12b4o105b2o6bobo$27bobo25b2o5b2obo5b2o12b3o106b2o7bo$28bob2o19
bo3b2o6bobo40b2o$29b3o13bo6bo11bo40bo2bo$30b2o12bobo3b3o10b2o5bob2o5b2
o25bobo$45bo17b2o5bobo6b2o3bo19b2obo$63b2o6bo11bo6bo13b3o99b3o$71b2o10
b3o3bobo12b2o89bo8bob3o$71b2o17bo99b3ob2o2b2o3bobobo$71b2o117b4o4b2o3b
o2bo$194b2o8b2o$225b$225b$173b2o$173b2o$191b2o8b2o$187b4o4b2o3bo2bo$18
7b3ob2o2b2o3bobobo$192bo8bob3o$203b3o$225b$225b$68b2o$68b2o$191b2o7bo$
191b2o6bobo$199bobo$200bo$189b2o$189bobo5bo$189bo5b5o$195b2ob3o$195b2o
2bo5bo$196b3o5bobo$189bo7bo7bo$188bobo$189bo$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$
225b$202b2o$202b2o$213bo$213b3o$140bo75bo$140bobo72b2o$140b2o47b3o$189
b3obo8b2o$190bobobo3b4o4b2o$191bo2bo3b3ob2o2b2o$192b2o9bo$103bo$104bo$
102b3o$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$118bo$117bobo
$117bo2bo$118b2o$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225
b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225
b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$147b3o$147bo$148bo$16bo9b2o$12b2o2b2ob3o3bo
2bo$12b2o4b4o3bobobo$16b2o8bob3o$28b3o47b2o$3b2o72bobo$3bo75bo$4b3o$6b
o$16b2o$16b2o$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$30bo$29bobo$14bo7bo7bo$13b
obo5b3o$14bo5bo2b2o$19b3ob2o$20b5o5bo$22bo5bobo$29b2o$19bo$18bobo$18bo
bo6b2o$19bo7b2o$182b2o$182b2o$225b$225b$14b3o$14b3obo8bo$15bobobo3b2o2
b2ob3o$16bo2bo3b2o4b4o$17b2o8b2o$45b2o$45b2o$225b$225b$14b2o8b2o$13bo2
bo3b2o4b4o149b2o$12bobobo3b2o2b2ob3o131bo17b2o$11b3obo8bo121b2o12bobo3
b3o10b2o$11b3o131b3o13bo6bo11bo6b2o$144bob2o19bo3b2o6bobo5b2o17bo$143b
obo25b2o5b2obo5b2o10b3o3bobo12b2o$143bo2bo40bo11bo6bo13b3o$144b2o40bob
o6b2o3bo19b2obo$16bo7b2o138b3o12b2o5bob2o5b2o25bobo$15bobo6b2o137b4o12
b2o40bo2bo$15bobo144b2o2b2o54b2o$16bo127b2o17bob2o20b2o12b3o$26b2o116b
2o18b3o3b2o15b2o12b4o$19bo5bobo116b2o19bo3bo2bo6b2o19b2o2b2o$17b5o5bo1
17bo24b2o6bo2bo19b2obo17b2o$16b3ob2o122bobo5b2o25bobo14b2o3b3o18b2o$11
bo5bo2b2o121b2obo5b2o23b2obo6b2o6bo2bo3bo19b2o$10bobo5b3o142bo13b3o6bo
2bo6b2o24bo$11bo7bo7bo134bobo12b2o7bobo25b2o5bobo$26bobo115b2o17bo23bo
b2o23b2o5bob2o$27bo116b2o42b3o13bo$189b2o12bobo$204bo17b2o$222b2o$225b
$225b$150b2o$13b2o135bo$13b2o133bobo$3bo144b2o66b2o$b3o213bo$o216bobo$
2o216b2o$25b3o$13b2o8bob3o$9b2o4b4o3bobobo$9b2o2b2ob3o3bo2bo$13bo9b2o!

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Re: Four cowboys shooting a hat

Post by towerator » April 15th, 2014, 10:48 am

It's broken...
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Re: Four cowboys shooting a hat

Post by almost_retired » April 15th, 2014, 11:25 am

Sorry, it must be something wrong with my RLE exporter. It should look like attached jpeg
Can you send me the picture that you're getting when opening my RLE? Or re-exported RLE from your app?
to: klikouchin@sympatico.ca

Thank you for helping me to fix this
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Re: Four cowboys shooting a hat

Post by almost_retired » April 15th, 2014, 11:44 am

Yeah ... I just checked in Golly, these files are not importing correctly.
Will fix it and re-post

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Re: Four cowboys shooting a hat

Post by dvgrn » April 15th, 2014, 12:56 pm

almost_retired wrote:Sorry, it must be something wrong with my RLE exporter.
It's not a serious problem -- looks like just a limitation with the way Golly handles newline characters. If you remove all the line breaks from your exported RLE, Golly can read it just fine. That translates the above RLE into a perfectly functional pattern:

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x = 225, y = 214, rule = B3/S23
195b2o9bo$194bo2bo3b3ob2o2b2o$193bobobo3b4o4b2o$192b3obo8b2o$192b3o$
32b2o184b2o$32bobo184bo$34bo181b3o$34b2o66b2o112bo$101bobo101b2o$101bo
103b2o$100b2o3$28b2o$28b2o17bo$46bobo12b2o$47bo13b3o42b2o84bo$27b2obo
5b2o23b2obo23bo17b2o83bobo$28bobo5b2o25bobo7b2o12bobo102bo7bo7bo$29bo
24b2o6bo2bo6b3o13bo110b3o5bobo$28b2o19bo3bo2bo6b2o6bob2o23b2o5bob2o89b
2o2bo5bo$28b2o18b3o3b2o14bobo25b2o5bobo90b2ob3o$28b2o17bob2o19bo2bo6b
2o24bo85bo5b5o$46b2o2b2o19b2o6bo2bo3bo19b2o84bobo5bo$47b4o12b2o15b2o3b
3o18b2o84b2o$48b3o12b2o20b2obo17b2o95bo$28b2o54b2o2b2o112bobo$27bo2bo
40b2o12b4o105b2o6bobo$27bobo25b2o5b2obo5b2o12b3o106b2o7bo$28bob2o19bo
3b2o6bobo40b2o$29b3o13bo6bo11bo40bo2bo$30b2o12bobo3b3o10b2o5bob2o5b2o
25bobo$45bo17b2o5bobo6b2o3bo19b2obo$63b2o6bo11bo6bo13b3o99b3o$71b2o10b
3o3bobo12b2o89bo8bob3o$71b2o17bo99b3ob2o2b2o3bobobo$71b2o117b4o4b2o3bo
2bo$194b2o8b2o3$173b2o$173b2o$191b2o8b2o$187b4o4b2o3bo2bo$187b3ob2o2b
2o3bobobo$192bo8bob3o$203b3o3$68b2o$68b2o$191b2o7bo$191b2o6bobo$199bob
o$200bo$189b2o$189bobo5bo$189bo5b5o$195b2ob3o$195b2o2bo5bo$196b3o5bobo
$189bo7bo7bo$188bobo$189bo7$202b2o$202b2o$213bo$213b3o$140bo75bo$140bo
bo72b2o$140b2o47b3o$189b3obo8b2o$190bobobo3b4o4b2o$191bo2bo3b3ob2o2b2o
$192b2o9bo$103bo$104bo$102b3o11$118bo$117bobo$117bo2bo$118b2o31$147b3o
$147bo$148bo$16bo9b2o$12b2o2b2ob3o3bo2bo$12b2o4b4o3bobobo$16b2o8bob3o$
28b3o47b2o$3b2o72bobo$3bo75bo$4b3o$6bo$16b2o$16b2o7$30bo$29bobo$14bo7b
o7bo$13bobo5b3o$14bo5bo2b2o$19b3ob2o$20b5o5bo$22bo5bobo$29b2o$19bo$18b
obo$18bobo6b2o$19bo7b2o$182b2o$182b2o3$14b3o$14b3obo8bo$15bobobo3b2o2b
2ob3o$16bo2bo3b2o4b4o$17b2o8b2o$45b2o$45b2o3$14b2o8b2o$13bo2bo3b2o4b4o
149b2o$12bobobo3b2o2b2ob3o131bo17b2o$11b3obo8bo121b2o12bobo3b3o10b2o$
11b3o131b3o13bo6bo11bo6b2o$144bob2o19bo3b2o6bobo5b2o17bo$143bobo25b2o
5b2obo5b2o10b3o3bobo12b2o$143bo2bo40bo11bo6bo13b3o$144b2o40bobo6b2o3bo
19b2obo$16bo7b2o138b3o12b2o5bob2o5b2o25bobo$15bobo6b2o137b4o12b2o40bo
2bo$15bobo144b2o2b2o54b2o$16bo127b2o17bob2o20b2o12b3o$26b2o116b2o18b3o
3b2o15b2o12b4o$19bo5bobo116b2o19bo3bo2bo6b2o19b2o2b2o$17b5o5bo117bo24b
2o6bo2bo19b2obo17b2o$16b3ob2o122bobo5b2o25bobo14b2o3b3o18b2o$11bo5bo2b
2o121b2obo5b2o23b2obo6b2o6bo2bo3bo19b2o$10bobo5b3o142bo13b3o6bo2bo6b2o
24bo$11bo7bo7bo134bobo12b2o7bobo25b2o5bobo$26bobo115b2o17bo23bob2o23b
2o5bob2o$27bo116b2o42b3o13bo$189b2o12bobo$204bo17b2o$222b2o3$150b2o$
13b2o135bo$13b2o133bobo$3bo144b2o66b2o$b3o213bo$o216bobo$2o216b2o$25b
3o$13b2o8bob3o$9b2o4b4o3bobobo$9b2o2b2ob3o3bo2bo$13bo9b2o!
Unfortunately it's part of the old standard spec for RLE that you can't just throw in newlines arbitrarily. It's better not to break up the number and the cell type in things like "187b" -- a lot of RLE readers don't handle that correctly (including Golly, it seems.) Even more code will break if you put the "18" on one line and the "7b" on the next. For small to medium-sized patterns it doesn't seem to cause trouble to just leave everything on one line (except the header line and comments, if any).

I noticed another slight oddity in your original RLE: blank lines seem to get coded as "225b$" instead of just "$". The version above compresses multiple blank lines as "11$" and "31$" and so on.

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Re: Four cowboys shooting a hat

Post by almost_retired » April 15th, 2014, 1:51 pm

Yes, Golly (and probably other apps) does not like LF inserted AFTER a number. I fixed my RLE exporter and this is the fixed file (note that the 'hat' rotates after each shot):

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#N Four cowboys shooting a hat
x = 225, y = 214, rule = B3/S23
195b2o9bo$194bo2bo3b3ob2o2b2o$193bobobo3b4o4b2o$192b3obo8b2o$192b3o$
32b2o184b2o$32bobo184bo$34bo181b3o$34b2o66b2o112bo$101bobo101b2o$101b
o103b2o$100b2o$225b$225b$28b2o$28b2o17bo$46bobo12b2o$47bo13b3o42b2o
84bo$27b2obo5b2o23b2obo23bo17b2o83bobo$28bobo5b2o25bobo7b2o12bobo102b
o7bo7bo$29bo24b2o6bo2bo6b3o13bo110b3o5bobo$28b2o19bo3bo2bo6b2o6bob2o
23b2o5bob2o89b2o2bo5bo$28b2o18b3o3b2o14bobo25b2o5bobo90b2ob3o$28b2o
17bob2o19bo2bo6b2o24bo85bo5b5o$46b2o2b2o19b2o6bo2bo3bo19b2o84bobo5bo$
47b4o12b2o15b2o3b3o18b2o84b2o$48b3o12b2o20b2obo17b2o95bo$28b2o54b2o2b
2o112bobo$27bo2bo40b2o12b4o105b2o6bobo$27bobo25b2o5b2obo5b2o12b3o106b
2o7bo$28bob2o19bo3b2o6bobo40b2o$29b3o13bo6bo11bo40bo2bo$30b2o12bobo3b
3o10b2o5bob2o5b2o25bobo$45bo17b2o5bobo6b2o3bo19b2obo$63b2o6bo11bo6bo
13b3o99b3o$71b2o10b3o3bobo12b2o89bo8bob3o$71b2o17bo99b3ob2o2b2o3bobob
o$71b2o117b4o4b2o3bo2bo$194b2o8b2o$225b$225b$173b2o$173b2o$191b2o8b
2o$187b4o4b2o3bo2bo$187b3ob2o2b2o3bobobo$192bo8bob3o$203b3o$225b$
225b$68b2o$68b2o$191b2o7bo$191b2o6bobo$199bobo$200bo$189b2o$189bobo5b
o$189bo5b5o$195b2ob3o$195b2o2bo5bo$196b3o5bobo$189bo7bo7bo$188bobo$
189bo$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$202b2o$202b2o$213bo$213b3o$140bo
75bo$140bobo72b2o$140b2o47b3o$189b3obo8b2o$190bobobo3b4o4b2o$191bo2bo
3b3ob2o2b2o$192b2o9bo$103bo$104bo$102b3o$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$
225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$118bo$117bobo$117bo2bo$118b2o$225b$225b$
225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$
225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$
225b$225b$147b3o$147bo$148bo$16bo9b2o$12b2o2b2ob3o3bo2bo$12b2o4b4o3bo
bobo$16b2o8bob3o$28b3o47b2o$3b2o72bobo$3bo75bo$4b3o$6bo$16b2o$16b2o$
225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$225b$30bo$29bobo$14bo7bo7bo$13bobo5b3o$14bo
5bo2b2o$19b3ob2o$20b5o5bo$22bo5bobo$29b2o$19bo$18bobo$18bobo6b2o$19bo
7b2o$182b2o$182b2o$225b$225b$14b3o$14b3obo8bo$15bobobo3b2o2b2ob3o$16b
o2bo3b2o4b4o$17b2o8b2o$45b2o$45b2o$225b$225b$14b2o8b2o$13bo2bo3b2o4b
4o149b2o$12bobobo3b2o2b2ob3o131bo17b2o$11b3obo8bo121b2o12bobo3b3o10b
2o$11b3o131b3o13bo6bo11bo6b2o$144bob2o19bo3b2o6bobo5b2o17bo$143bobo
25b2o5b2obo5b2o10b3o3bobo12b2o$143bo2bo40bo11bo6bo13b3o$144b2o40bobo
6b2o3bo19b2obo$16bo7b2o138b3o12b2o5bob2o5b2o25bobo$15bobo6b2o137b4o
12b2o40bo2bo$15bobo144b2o2b2o54b2o$16bo127b2o17bob2o20b2o12b3o$26b2o
116b2o18b3o3b2o15b2o12b4o$19bo5bobo116b2o19bo3bo2bo6b2o19b2o2b2o$17b
5o5bo117bo24b2o6bo2bo19b2obo17b2o$16b3ob2o122bobo5b2o25bobo14b2o3b3o
18b2o$11bo5bo2b2o121b2obo5b2o23b2obo6b2o6bo2bo3bo19b2o$10bobo5b3o142b
o13b3o6bo2bo6b2o24bo$11bo7bo7bo134bobo12b2o7bobo25b2o5bobo$26bobo115b
2o17bo23bob2o23b2o5bob2o$27bo116b2o42b3o13bo$189b2o12bobo$204bo17b2o$
222b2o$225b$225b$150b2o$13b2o135bo$13b2o133bobo$3bo144b2o66b2o$b3o
213bo$o216bobo$2o216b2o$25b3o$13b2o8bob3o$9b2o4b4o3bobobo$9b2o2b2ob3o
3bo2bo$13bo9b2o!
Thank you, dvgrn, for your comments. I don't care much about inserting empty lines into the RLE - like those you mentioned - I'll fix it later.

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Re: Four cowboys shooting a hat

Post by simsim314 » April 15th, 2014, 1:57 pm

Speaking of p208, does anyone see a better place for semi snark?

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x = 35, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
31bo$7b2o7b2o11b3o$7bo2b2ob2o2bo10bo$8b2obobob2o3b2o6b2o$9bo5bo4bobo$
9bob3obo5bo$10bo3bo2$5b2o3bo3bo18b2o$4bo2bo2bo3bo10b2o6b2o$5bobo17b2o$
3b2obo4b3o$3b3o10b2o$3b2o11b2o2$31b2o$31bobo$15b2o4b3o9bo$15b2o6bo9b2o
$22bo5$9bobo$2bo5bo3b2o$bobo8bo$2bo5bo9bo$7b2o8bobo$7b5o6bo$5bo2bobobo
$6bo2b2ob2o$2b2o5b5o$3bo5b5o$3o5b2o2bo$o8b3o$4b2o4bo$4b2o4$16b2o$6b2o
7b3o$6b3o5bob2o$2o2bo2bobo3bobo$2o2b2o2b2o3bo2bo$4b2o8b2o!

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Re: Four cowboys shooting a hat

Post by dvgrn » April 15th, 2014, 3:22 pm

simsim314 wrote:Speaking of p208, does anyone see a better place for semi snark?
Nope, that was definitely the best I could do. In some cases you can weld adjacent still lifes together to get a few cells closer. But when the still lifes in question are blocks, you're pretty much always out of luck (unless you can get two blocks to overlap completely, so you're using both sides of a single block).

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Re: Four cowboys shooting a hat

Post by oblique » April 15th, 2014, 4:38 pm

dvgrn wrote:For small to medium-sized patterns it doesn't seem to cause trouble to just leave everything on one line (except the header line and comments, if any).

I noticed another slight oddity in your original RLE: blank lines seem to get coded as "225b$" instead of just "$". The version above compresses multiple blank lines as "11$" and "31$" and so on.
For huge patterns Golly does not like having the whole rle in one line, tho ...

Stuff like fewthousand by almostthousand cells.

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