LWSS reflect 90 deg also converts

[knightlife]

With just a pond and a boat a new LWSS is formed at 90 degrees.
A glider is generated as well.
By adding a beehive the remaining mess turns cleanly into a second glider.
The incoming spaceship can be any LWSS/MWSS/HWSS thus converting to LWSS at 90 degrees:

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x = 97, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
bo39bo39bo$obo37bobo37bobo$obo37bobo37bobo$bo39bo39bo3$8bo39bo39bo$7bo
bo37bobo37bobo$7b2o38b2o38b2o8$4bo39bo39bo$5bo39bo39bo$bo3bo34bo4bo33b
o5bo$2b4o35b5o34b6o$14b2o38b2o38b2o$13bo2bo36bo2bo36bo2bo$13bo2bo36bo
2bo36bo2bo$14b2o38b2o38b2o!

This is the basic idea:

Edit: image did not work, see below:

By using the two gliders and some Hershel conduits the three simple objects can be reconstructed, creating a stable LWSS 90 degree reflector.
Has anyone made a stable reflector for LWSS?

[knightlife]

(fixed image by removing beehive)

[Nathaniel]

(fixed image by removing beehive)

Heh sorry for any confusion; I went back and fixed the image for you. phpBB is picky and breaks up any long lines you write which fortunately I can override

[knightlife]

Thanks, I thought it was a max image grid size problem...

[dvgrn]

With just a pond and a boat a new LWSS is formed at 90 degrees.
A glider is generated as well.
By adding a beehive the remaining mess turns cleanly into a second glider.
The incoming spaceship can be any LWSS/MWSS/HWSS thus converting to LWSS at 90 degrees:
...
Has anyone made a stable reflector for LWSS?

Nice! The two output gliders make it easy (well, relatively easy) to rebuild the still lifes. There are some known converters that work for either LWSS and MWSS, but handling *any* of the standard spaceship types is unusual... I have a vague memory of some "prior art" in this area, but I can't find it right now. More later, maybe --

Existing stable technology for reflecting an LWSS would involve pairing up an LWSS-to-glider converter with a glider-to-LWSS converter, something like this:

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#C small LWSS-to-G plus Calcyman's minimum-area G-to-LWSS
x = 209, y = 234, rule = B3/S23
145b2ob2o$145b2ob2o2$145b5o2bo$144bo4bo2b3o9b2o$143bo2bo8bo8b2o5b2o$
140bo2bob2o7b2o15b2o$128bo10bobobo5bo$128b3o9bo2bo4bobo$131bo11b2o2bo
2bo$130b2o16b2o$123bo69b2o$123b3o67b2o$126bo$125b2o71b2o$198b2o$148bo$
122b2o24bo$123bo24b3o$123bobo24bo$124b2o3$118bo86b2o$118b3o84bobo$121b
o85bo$104b2o14b2o59bo25b2o$104b2o74bobo$152b2o27b2o$152b2o$98b2o96b2o$
98b2o63b2o21b2o8bo$102b2o58bobo22bo6b3o$102b2o15bo42bo21b3o$119bo40b3o
21bo$119b3o37bo$121bo36bobo$97b2o41bo18bo$97b2o29b2o10b3o59b2o$129bo
13bo6b3o25bo23bobo$126b3o13b2o8bo4b2o19b3o23bo$126bo25b2o3b2o22bo22b2o
$180b2o14b2o$196b2o2$111b2o$111bo$109b3o25b2o$138bo$138bobo$103b2o22bo
11b2o$104bo20b3o$101b3o20bo$101bo22b2o27b2o$153bobo$155bo31b2o8b2o$
100bo54b2o31bo8bobo$100b3o85b3o8bo$103bo95b3o$102b2o23b2o6bob2o63bo$
124b2o2bo6b2obo62b2o$124bob2o70b2o$126bo17b2o52bob5o$126bo17b2o58bo$
101b2o18b2obob2o71b2obo$100bobo18b2ob2o2bo70b2ob2o$100bo26bo$99b2o20b
2ob3o60b2o$122bobo31b2o19b2o8b2o$122bo33bo21bo$119b2ob2o30bobo18b3o25b
2o$119bobo32b2o19bo27b2o$105b2o14bo$106bo14b2o$106b3o4$134b2o$135bo8b
3o$99b2o34bobo8bo39b2o8b2o$98bobo35b2o8b2o37bobo8bo$98bo86bo8b3o$97b2o
85b2o$96bo$96b3o$99bo$98b2o$202b2o$202bobo$204bo$126bo77b2o$126b3o$96b
2o31bo7b2o$96b2o30b2o7b2o14b2o$120b2o31bo$120bobo31b3o$122bo33bo$122b
2o70b2o$194b2o2$185b2obo$185bob2o$149b2o52b2o$106b2o30b3o8bo53bo$107bo
30bo8bobo51bobo$107b3o27b2o8b2o52b2o2$186bo$186b3o$177bo11bo$158b2o17b
3o8b2o14bo$100b2o49b2o6bo20bo22bobo$99bobo23bo25bo6bo20b2o23bo$99bo23b
3o23bobo6b2o$98b2o22bo26b2o$106b2o14b2o$106b2o$136b2o$135bobo$135bo25b
2o15bo20b2o$134b2o25b2o15bo20bobo$178b3o20bo$180bo11b2o7b2o$192bo$193b
3o$195bo$154b2o$154bo$105b2o8b2o31bo6b3o$104bobo8bo31bobo7bo$104bo8b3o
32bo$103b2o4$163b2o$164bo$161b3o$161bo2$115b2o$115b2o6$104b2o$105bo19b
2o$105bobo17bo7b2o$106b2o15bobo7bo$118bo4b2o9b3o$117bobo16bo$117bobo$
106b2o10bo$105bobo$105bo$104b2o$119b2o$119bo$120b3o$122bo2$63bo12b2o6b
2o31bo$61b3o12bo2bo4b2o31b3o$60bo12b2obob2o40bo14bo$29b2o29b2o10bobobo
42b2o12b3o$22b2o5b2o41bo3bob2o52bo$22b2o47b2o2bo2b2o52b2o$75b2o2$24b2o
105b2o$24b2o86b2o17b2o$18b2o92b2o$18b2o5$81b2o32b2o$81b2o11b2o20bo$94b
o19bo$95b3o16b2o$97bo20b2o$119bo$33b2ob2o39b2o37b3o$15bo16bobobobo6b2o
30bo38bo$15b3o15bo2bobo6bo5b2o25b3o$13b2o3bo17bob2o6b3obobo27bo$12bobo
2b2o16b2o3bo7bobo7b2o$13bo18bobo2bobo9b2o7b2o74b2o$32b2o2b2ob2o93bobo$
11b5o120bo$10bo4bo120b2o$9bo2bo$6bo2bob2o23b2o$5bobobo5bo20bo$6bo2bo4b
obo17bobo$9b2o2bo2bo17b2o$14b2o75bo$91b3o32b2o$47bo46bo31b2o$47b3o43b
2o22b2o$50bo12bo53bo2bo$49b2o12b3o7b2o38b2o4b2o$66bo6bo40bo20b2o$o2bo
23bo37b2o4bobo40bobo18bo$4bo21bobo42b2o42b2o16bobo$o3bo21b2o105b2o$b4o
2$39b2o$39b2o3$28bo$27bobo$27b2o$36b2o$36bo90b2o$37bo89b2o2b2o$36b2o
93bobo$108b2o23bo$59b2o41b2o5bo23b2o$60bo41bobob3o$57b3o3bob2o28b2o7bo
bo$57bo2b4ob2o28b2o7b2o$60bo$62b2ob2o2b2o6b2o$63bobo4bo6bobo$63bo2b4o
9bo$64bobo2bobo7b2o$65bo4b2o!

No doubt something a good bit smaller could be designed, using a Herschel as the intermediate stage instead of a glider. But these are all going to be fairly slow and sprawling designs, and which design you pick depends a lot on what exactly you're using it for.

For example, the above takes a very long time to produce the output LWSS, so if you needed a quick reflection, your rebuildable "one-time" reflection reaction might be just the thing. But I suspect it would come out about the same as the above in terms of the total bounding box or recovery time.

For cases where you can get an extra signal from somewhere else to pre-build or rebuild the sacrificial still lifes, here are a few other known LWSS reflectors. The cheapest one is two blocks plus an eater catalyst:

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#C One-time LWSS turners:  Brice Due, 8 October 2007
#C The eater can be replaced by a block
x = 70, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
52b2o$53bo$53bobo$54b2o5$4b2o45b2o$4b2o45b2o2$62b2o$62b2o2$2o$2o5$12b
2o$12b2o10$35b2o$35b2o3$62b2o$62b2o$38b2o$38b2o28b2o$68b2o$27b2o$27b2o
5$59b2o$59b2o14$24b2o$24b2o4$34b2o$34b2o3$23b2o$23b2o7$27b3o$27bo2bo$
27bo$27bo$28bo!

[calcyman]

Existing stable technology for reflecting an LWSS would involve pairing up an LWSS-to-glider converter with a glider-to-LWSS converter, something like this:

Dave, you youself engineered a LWSS-to-Herschel converter, which can readily be adapted to make a reflector:

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x = 188, y = 155, rule = S23/B3
59booboo39boo$59booboo39bo$101bobo$56bobb5o37boo$43boo9b3obbo4bo$36boo
5boo8bo8bobbo$36boo15boo7boobobbo$59bo5bobobo9boo24boo3boo$58bobo4bobb
o10bo25boo3boo$58bobbobboo14bo$59boo18boo$14boo101boo$14boo101bo$115bo
bo$9boo104boo$9boo$60bo15boo$60bo15boo$58b3o$58bo$$112boo$112bo$bboo
79boo28b3o$bobo62boo15bo31bo$bo64bo17bo$oo25bo39b3o13boo$26bobo40bo$
26boo27boo$55boo$11boo$12bo8boo21boo53boo$12b3o6bo22bobo52boo$22b3o21b
o$24bo21b3o50boo$49bo49bo$48bobo46b3o$49bo18bo$5boo59b3o$4bobo23bo25b
3o6bo$4bo23b3o19boo4bo8boo48boo$3boo22bo22boo3boo58bobo$11boo14boo76b
oo10bo$11boo92bobo9boo$107bo$107boo$109bo$70boo35b3o$70bo35bo$68bobo
35boo$68boo3$54boo$53bobo$10boo8boo31bo54boo$9bobo8bo31boo54boo$9bo8b
3o63boo$7b3o73bobo$6bo63boobo9bo$6boo62boboo8boo$9boo96bo$4b5obo52boo
40b3o$4bo58boo39bo$6boboo94boo$5booboo$97boo$20boo74bobbo36boo$20boo8b
oo19boo44boo36b4o$30bo21bo81booboo$4boo25b3o18bobo80boo$4boo27bo19boo
7$73boo19boo$62b3o8bo21bo$11boo8boo39bo8bobo18b3o$12bo8bobo37boo8boo
19bo$12b3o8bo$23boo$$123boo$123boo$85boo$86bo72boo$5boo79bobo15boo54bo
$6bo80boo15boo54bobo$3b3o76bo78bobo19boo$3bo76b3o58bo20bo3boo15bo$70b
oo7bo60bobo23boo13bobo$54boo14boo7boo59bobbo33boobboo$55bo85boo34boo$
52b3o$52bo77boo$13boo115boo$13boo$$20boboo$20boobo81boo$4boo52boo45bob
o$5bo53bo8b3o36bo$5bobo51bobo8bo36boo8boo$6boo52boo8boo45boo64boo$121b
oo42boo16bobo$22bo97bobo41bobo18bo$20b3o97bo43bo20boo$19bo11bo57boo28b
oo42boo4boo$4bo14boo8b3o17boo37bobo41boo33bobbo$3bobo22bo20bo6boo30bo
43boo33boo$4bo23boo20bo6bo29boo87boo$49boo6bobo116boo$58boo74boo$134b
oo$$71boo$71bobo$8boo20bo15boo25bo23boo$7bobo20bo15boo25boo22boo87boo$
7bo20b3o155bo$6boo7boo11bo75boboo76bobo$16bo87boobo76boo$13b3o52boo18b
oo$13bo54bo20bo$53boo14b3o17bobo46bo$54bo16bo18boo44b3o27bo$51b3o6bo
74bo30b3o$51bo7bobo44bo28boo32bo$60bo43b3o61boo$103bo11bo48boo$88bo14b
oo8b3o48bo$87bobo22bo53bo$44boo42bo23boo51boo$44bobo$46bo$46boo3$162b
oo$92boo68boo17boo$91bobo87boo$91bo$90boo7boo$100bo81boo$97b3o82bo$97b
o71boo12b3o$152boo16bo14bo$38boo80boo30bo14b3o$37b3o80bo5boo25b3o11bo$
37boobo80b3obobo27bo$38b3o82bobo7boo$39bo84boo7boo!

I have a vague memory of some "prior art" in this area, but I can't find it right now.

You're talking about my general *WSS converter:

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x = 230, y = 213, rule = B3/S23
14bo$13bobo$14bo3$8boo$8boo23boo$oo31bo$bo29bobo$bobo27boo$bboo4boo$8b
oo$$42boo$oo40bo$o39bobo$bboboo34boo$booboo$22boo$booboo16boo$bbobo$bb
obo$3bo8$29boo$29boo48$206boo$149bo56boo5boo$112boo7boo24b3o63boo$112b
oo7bobo22bo30boo$119bobob3o20boo30bo$119boo5bo38bo11bo14boo17boo$125b
oo38b3o9boo14bo17boo$168bo24bobo21boo$155boo10boo25boo21boo$74bo81bo$
55boo17b3o79bobo$56bo20bo79boo$55bo20boo11boo11bo77boo15bo$55boo32boo
9b3o77boo15bo$47bo52bo96b3o$47b3o50bo98bo$50bo$49boo$157bo$58boo15bo
81bo$58boo15bo70boo9b3o30boo$75b3o55boo11boo11bo11boo18bo28boo$77bo56b
o36bo16b3o18b3o8bo$131b3o38b3o13bo20bo8bobo$131bo42bo33boo8boo$$110boo
$68boo41bo$69bo20boo16b3o$66b3o21bobo15bo$66bo25bo$64bobo25boo$64boo3$
40boo$40boboboo18boo83boo66boo$42boboo18bobo82boo50boo14boo$41bo24bo
87bo47bo22boo$41booboo20boo84b3o44b3o23bo$42bobo106bo47bo23bobo$42bobo
94bo11boo70boo$43booboo81boo7bobo$45bobo81boo7bobo$45bo14boo77bo$44boo
14bo$58b3o$215b3o$217bo$76bo64boo74boo$74b3o64boo$73bo81boo$73boo80boo
$159boo$159boo$49bo151boo$49b3o150bo$52bo149bobo$51boo23boo125boo$73b
oobbo149boo$73boboo150boo$75bo$75bo$50boo18booboboo$49bobo18booboobbo$
49bo26bo$48boo20boob3o149boo$71bobo151bo$71bo63boo89b3o$68booboo62bobo
90bo$68bobo65bo89boo$54boo14bo155bo$55bo14boo152bobo$55b3o166boo4$131b
oboo$131boobo$48boo166b3o$47bobo90boo76bo$47bo92boo76boo$46boo3$150bo$
149bobo$150bo51boo$203bo$56boo90b5o50bobo$56boo90bo4bo50boo$65boo84bo
bbo73boo$63bobbo84boobobbo70boo$63boo4boo77bo5bobobo$47boo20bo77bobo4b
obboo$48bo18bobo20boo55bobbobboo4boo$48bobo16boo13boo6bo31bo25boo9bo
18bo$49boo31boo4bobo29b3o12bo21bobo16b3o$88boo4boo23bo14bobo20boo16bo
50boo$93bobo23boo14bo39boo49bo$91b3obobo85bo43b3o$90bo5boobboo79b3o45b
o$90boo8boo36boo40bo46boo$68bo69boo40boo45bo$68bo42bo113bobo$66b3o9boo
31b3o44bo66boo$66bo11boo33bo15boo7boo18bo24boo$113bo15boo7bobo15b3o24b
o$55boo82bo16bo24bobo$51boobboo124boo24bo$50bobo13boo139b3o$50bo15boo
3bo138bo6b3o$49boo19bobo115bo20boo8bo$71bobo58boo52b3o16boo12boo$73bo
38boo19bo14boo35bo19bo$73boo37bobo15b3o15bo36boo20bo$114bo15bo8bo9b3o
54boo$114boo22b3o10bo$137boobo$106boo29b3o$106bo30b3o$107b3o27b3o$100b
oo7bo28boo47bo15boo$100boo85bo15boo17boo$185b3o34boo$185bo$95boo$95bob
o79boo44boo$97bo79bo45bo$97boo79b3o29boo12b3o$180bo12boo16bo14bo$84boo
107bo14b3o$84boo108b3o11bo$196bo!

[knightlife]

dvgrn wrote:
Nice! The two output gliders make it easy (well, relatively easy) to rebuild the still lifes.

I would like to point out that the three still lifes could possibly be reduced to just two if catalysts could be found to clean up the debris instead of adding a beehive to do the job (although the bonus of a second glider will be lost). I do virtually all of my searching manually, not because I can't do programming, but because I just enjoy the tinkering and discovery aspect so much that I don't have the patience to sit down and program. However, I have used Golly to quickly produce a myriad of possible collisions by modifying the pd-glider.py script and do my own search that way. I expect this to change soon, as I keep running into possibilities that could make use of Herschel conduits. Other than the track.py script is there a complete collection of Herschel track pieces listed in one place? In the LifeWiki, coming soon? I do understand the Hersrch program would have an updated list, but maybe track.py could be updated to include all known tracks.

[dvgrn]

Other than the track.py script is there a complete collection of Herschel track pieces listed in one place? In the LifeWiki, coming soon? I do understand the Hersrch program would have an updated list, but maybe track.py could be updated to include all known tracks.

Yes, track.py is over a decade out of date -- very embarrassing. There are seventeen (or so) stable conduits now, plus a bunch of weird composite things, several stable and periodic tandem-glider transmitters and receivers, and any number of switches and period multipliers and merge circuits and so forth.

Getting them all sorted out and classified in a way that will make sense (to anyone but me) is a painful task that I've been studiously avoiding recently... But the groundwork is laid now to have at least a good first-draft version of a Herschel library as part of Golly 2.1.

Meanwhile, yes, the best bet is to download Hersrch (good gravy, that file still says "not downloaded yet" -- are Herschel tracks really _that_ scary?). You don't have to run it or anything, just decompress it and look in the "data" subfolder: the files starting with "v" are headerless RLE for all the known standard conduits (except for transceivers) (!). To make these files open properly in Golly, you have to add something like "x = 99, y = 99" as the first line. Have to fix that soon, too...

If you're only interested in stable stuff, ignore anything with a "p" in the filename -- and you can generally skip the ones with an "x" suffix, which are just minor variants related to "dependent conduits". More details are in the associated data.ini file.

[PM 2Ring]

Meanwhile, yes, the best bet is to download Hersrch (good gravy, that file still says "not downloaded yet" -- are Herschel tracks really _that_ scary?). You don't have to run it or anything, just decompress it and look in the "data" subfolder

Thanks for that info, Dave. I'll check it out & add them to the Htrack.py Golly script I posted here recently.

I must admit I found the whole Herschel business scary when I first saw it, but I'm gradually getting the hang of it.

[knightlife]

dvgrn wrote:
There are seventeen (or so) stable conduits now

The life lexicon lists sixteen stable conduits with no new ones discovered this century!
Surely more than one or two new ones have been discovered in the last ten years...

dvgrn wrote:
If you're only interested in stable stuff, ignore anything with a "p" in the filename

I did download Hersrch on May 30th but felt I needed a large chunk of time to digest it. Thanks for making it less "scary" with your info. I have started to look at it.

[calcyman]

The life lexicon lists sixteen stable conduits with no new ones discovered this century!

Brice Due discovered the only elementary conduit this century, in an experimental test-run (!) of a program that he had advanced. Unfortunately, no-one has touched this program since.

The conduit is called the F171, and was discovered in 2007. You can read about it on my website:


http://www.calcyman.co.uk/life/stable.htm


You can also see the list of all sixteen elementary conduits at:

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/index.php?title=Conduit

[knightlife]

calcyman wrote:

The conduit is called the F171, and was discovered in 2007

Herschel conduit F171 is quite awesome how the output is "thrown out" into an open area with no nearby catalysts. I am always on the lookout for "thrown out" objects such as a block to allow reconstruction of a reflector or building of "edge shooters".

[calcyman]

I am always on the lookout for "thrown out" objects such as a block to allow reconstruction of a reflector or building of "edge shooters".

The furthest known direct edge-shooter is this one:

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x = 75, y = 33, rule = S23/B3
o18bo$3o6boo6b3o54bo$3bo5boo5bo55b3o$bboo12boo53bo$71boo$$15boo$10boo
3boo$10boo3$30bo12bo$28b3o12b3o$20bo6bo18bo$18b3o6boo16boo11bo$17bo40b
3o$17boo39bobo$60bo5$36boo$36boo$59boo$59bobo$61bo$49boo10boo$49bo$39b
oo9b3o$40bo11bo$40bobo$41boo!

[PM 2Ring]

Meanwhile, yes, the best bet is to download Hersrch (good gravy, that file still says "not downloaded yet" -- are Herschel tracks really _that_ scary?). You don't have to run it or anything, just decompress it and look in the "data" subfolder: the files starting with "v" are headerless RLE for all the known standard conduits (except for transceivers) (!). To make these files open properly in Golly, you have to add something like "x = 99, y = 99" as the first line. Have to fix that soon, too....

I downloaded Hersrch a day or two ago. I found it slightly confusing. And scary. I assume there are so many files in there because there are variants with extra eaters to kill stray gliders? ( I guess the u* files are used to quickly detect track overlaps.)

My LifeRLE program can easily open RLE files without headers (or incorrect x & y values in the header), and rle2txt can handle them, too. I'd be happy to write a C or Python program that can fix these RLE files. Once I know what all those files are for.

Is the Hersrch source Windows specific? I've been programming in C since 1980, but I don't know C++, and I don't know very much about Windows.

I'm an old Amiga die-hard, and although I've used Windows for several years, it's been as a user, not a programmer. The only Windows programming I've ever done has been in Javascript / jscript, and a tiny bit of batch file stuff. And POV-Ray, but that's not really relevant. These days, I only use Windows at work & prefer to use Linux whenever I can. But I still have a working Amiga 2000 on my desk here at home.

[Da c0c0nut]

Hi All,
I'm quite new to this, but after downloading and copy-pasting a lot of patterns, I assembled the following reflector that seems to work, using a lwss to g then g to lwss converter. (Sorry for the fact that this may have already been discovered, noting that the previous post was more than 10 years ago.

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x = 219, y = 76, rule = B3/S23
158bo$158b3o$161bo$160b2o$123b2o11bo$123b2o10bobo$135bobo2b2o3bo$134b
2ob2o2bo2bobo$138bobo3bobo$134b2obo2b4obo$134b2obobo3bo$138bobo3bo$
139bobo3bo43bo$140bo3b2o43b3o$159bo32bo$157b3o31b2o$156bo$131b2o23b2o$
131b2o$116b2o$115bo2bo$114bob2o$114bo$113b2o$128b2o$128bo36b2o$129b3o
33b2o$63b2o11bo54bo10b2o$63b2o10bobo63bobo$75bobo2b2o3bo55bo$74b2ob2o
2bo2bobo53b2o10b2o$78bobo3bobo66bo$74b2obo2b4obo64b3o9b2o36b2o$74b2obo
bo3bo66bo11bo19b2o16bobo$78bobo3bo78bo17bobo18bo$79bobo3bo76b2o17bo20b
2o$80bo3b2o58b2o11bo22b2o$99bo44b2o10bobo$97b3o56bobo2b2o3bo$96bo58b2o
b2o2bo2bobo$71b2o23b2o61bobo3bobo$71b2o82b2obo2b4obo21bo2bob2o$56b2o
97b2obobo3bo23b4obo$55bo2bo100bobo3bo27bobo$54bob2o102bobo3bo23b2o2b2o
$54bo106bo3b2o23bo$53b2o125bo10bo$68b2o38b2o68b3o9b2o2bo$32bob2o4bo27b
o38bo2bo66bo16b3o$32b2obo3bobo27b3o36b2o42b2o23b2o18bo$39bobo29bo11b2o
49b2o16b2o42b2o$30b5o3b2ob3o40bo49bo2b2o$29bo2bo2bo8bo36b3o6bob2o17b2o
22b2o2bo$29b2o3b2o2b2ob3o37bo6b3ob2o17bo26bo$38b2obo45bo24b3o20b3o$45b
o42b3ob2o20bo19bo$43b3o44bobo41b2o13b2o$42bo47bobo4b2o50bo36b2o$42b2o
47bo6bo51b3o33b2o$b4o90b3o54bo10b2o$o3bo90bo66bobo52b2o$4bo157bo54b2o$
o2bo157b2o10b2o$39b2o83b2o48bo$38bo2bo81bobo5b2o38b3o9b2o$39b2o82bo7b
2o38bo11bo19b2o$31b2o89b2o60bo17bobo$30bobo150b2o17bo$30bo105bo64b2o$
29b2o101b2obobo$42b2o87bobobobo$42bo85bo2bobobobob2o$43b3o82b4ob2o2bo
2bo$45bo86bo4b2o$130bobo$130b2o!

[dvgrn]

I'm quite new to this, but after downloading and copy-pasting a lot of patterns, I assembled the following reflector that seems to work, using a lwss to g then g to lwss converter. (Sorry for the fact that this may have already been discovered, noting that the previous post was more than 10 years ago.

I see Sokwe has already done a "welcome to the forums" response elsewhere, so welcome again! You definitely seem to have picked up the trick of stringing signal converters together.

Converters are a quite a bit better organized than they were a decade ago. The place to look for stable signal converters of all sorts is the top of the dedicated thread, which I try to keep up to date with new mechanisms and constructions. Most of these aren't considered to be general-use enough to need a LifeWiki article about them.

If you happen to find any missing links in that first post, a reminder message in that thread would be appreciated. For example, I only put the new SSOL-to-G converter in there just now --!