Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » December 27th, 2020, 9:54 pm

I think you're right; I searched for the wiki for that, but I guess that's just a p5 domino sparker misnamed as a HWV. Oh well. Another historical baggage...

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » December 27th, 2020, 9:57 pm

wwei23 wrote:
December 24th, 2020, 2:33 pm
Random P24:
Similar to this p12 LoM hassler, it can be extended into a wick:

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x = 72, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
6b2ob2o4b2o$5bobobo5bo2b2o6b2o$3b3obobo2bo3bobobo5bo2b2o6b2o$2bo7b7obo
bo2bo3bobobo5bo2b2o6b2o$2b3obob2o11b7obobo2bo3bobobo5bo2b2o6b2o$5b3obo
b2o2bobob2o11b7obobo2bo3bobobo5bo2b2o$4o3bo3bo2bob3obob2o2bobob2o11b7o
bobo2bo3bobobo$o3b4ob2o2b2o3bo3bo2bob3obob2o2bobob2o11b7obob3o$2bo12b
4ob2o2b2o3bo3bo2bob3obob2o2bobob2o13bo$b3ob9o12b4ob2o2b2o3bo3bo2bob3ob
ob2o2bobob2ob2o$o12b2ob9o12b4ob2o2b2o3bo3bo2bob3obobo$b3ob4ob2o12b2ob
9o12b4ob2o2b2o3bo3bo$3b2o4b2ob3ob4ob2o12b2ob9o12b4ob2o$14b2o4b2ob3ob4o
b2o12b2ob9o$25b2o4b2ob3ob4ob2o12b2ob8o$36b2o4b2ob3ob4ob2o12bo$47b2o4b
2ob3ob4ob3o$58b2o4b2o2$2o$2o4b3o$8b3o6b3o$19b3o6b3o$30b3o6b3o$41b3o6b
3o$52b3o6b3o$63b3o4b2o$70b2o2$6b2o4b2o$4b3ob4ob3ob2o4b2o$3bo12b2ob4ob
3ob2o4b2o$4b8ob2o12b2ob4ob3ob2o4b2o$14b9ob2o12b2ob4ob3ob2o4b2o$6b2ob4o
12b9ob2o12b2ob4ob3ob2o4b2o$5bo3bo3b2o2b2ob4o12b9ob2o12b2ob4ob3o$5bobob
3obo2bo3bo3b2o2b2ob4o12b9ob2o12bo$4b2ob2obobo2b2obob3obo2bo3bo3b2o2b2o
b4o12b9ob3o$4bo13b2obobo2b2obob3obo2bo3bo3b2o2b2ob4o12bo$5b3obob7o11b
2obobo2b2obob3obo2bo3bo3b2o2b2ob4o3bo$7bobobo3bo2bobob7o11b2obobo2b2ob
ob3obo2bo3bo3b4o$8b2o2bo5bobobo3bo2bobob7o11b2obobo2b2obob3o$11b2o6b2o
2bo5bobobo3bo2bobob7o11b2obob3o$22b2o6b2o2bo5bobobo3bo2bobob7o7bo$33b
2o6b2o2bo5bobobo3bo2bobob3o$44b2o6b2o2bo5bobobo$55b2o4b2ob2o!
MathAndCode wrote:
December 27th, 2020, 9:11 pm
Scorbie wrote:
December 27th, 2020, 8:23 pm
Here's the shallowest (according to JLS) Heavyweight Volcano (with the first two rows clear):
Isn't that just a domino sparker?
"Heavyweight volcano" has become a generic term for strong domino sparkers, especially p5 domino sparkers. Note the variants on the wiki page.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » December 27th, 2020, 10:08 pm

Sokwe wrote:
December 27th, 2020, 9:57 pm
"Heavyweight volcano" has become a generic term for strong domino sparkers, especially p5 domino sparkers. Note the variants on the wiki page.
I think that we should change the nomenclature in order to make it fit with other pages, such as Heavyweight emulator and Middleweight volcano.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » December 27th, 2020, 11:25 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
December 27th, 2020, 10:08 pm
Sokwe wrote:
December 27th, 2020, 9:57 pm
"Heavyweight volcano" has become a generic term for strong domino sparkers, especially p5 domino sparkers. Note the variants on the wiki page.
I think that we should change the nomenclature in order to make it fit with other pages, such as Heavyweight emulator and Middleweight volcano.
I'd suggest to leave the historical inconsistencies alone (HWV is a strong p5 domino sparker, Emulators are usually p4), for backwards-compatibility, and start over with a clean nomenclature: "LW/MW/HW sparkers". (Cause people already using the words would be confused.)

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » December 27th, 2020, 11:40 pm

Scorbie wrote:
December 27th, 2020, 11:25 pm
I'd suggest to leave the historical inconsistencies alone (HWV is a strong p5 domino sparker, Emulators are usually p4), for backwards-compatibility, and start over with a clean nomenclature: "LW/MW/HW sparkers". (Cause people already using the words would be confused.)
I have been trying to use the term sparker instead of emulator, although I don't think that there's ambiguity if the period is specified.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » December 27th, 2020, 11:45 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
December 27th, 2020, 11:40 pm
Scorbie wrote:
December 27th, 2020, 11:25 pm
I'd suggest to leave the historical inconsistencies alone (HWV is a strong p5 domino sparker, Emulators are usually p4), for backwards-compatibility, and start over with a clean nomenclature: "LW/MW/HW sparkers". (Cause people already using the words would be confused.)
I have been trying to use the term sparker instead of emulator, although I don't think that there's ambiguity if the period is specified.
Thanks. Personally I don't think there is ambiguity as well, but from what I observed the term "emulator" is used rarely with non-p4-oscs that it is encouraged not to use this form in LifeWiki.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » December 28th, 2020, 12:45 am

Scorbie wrote:
December 27th, 2020, 11:45 pm
Thanks. Personally I don't think there is ambiguity as well, but from what I observed the term "emulator" is used rarely with non-p4-oscs that it is encouraged not to use this form in LifeWiki.
Yes, but there are some cases where sparker is more ambiguous than emulator, such as the table on the wiki page. Known sparkers at periods below ten would have included a whole host of other types of sparkers, such as T-nosed sparkers and thumb sparkers, and known lightweight, middleweight, and heavyweight emulators at periods below ten would have been too wordy. While no specific period is named in the title of the table, the fact that the word periods is plural makes it clear that the term does not only refer to period four; thus, the term emulator is not ambiguous in that particular situation.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » December 28th, 2020, 1:29 am

A while ago, praosylen and I got the stator of the P40 I hassler down to a single cell. Anyone want to try and reduce it to zero?

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x = 71, y = 75, rule = LifeHistory
38.A2BA$38.4BAB$37.6B2AB$37.AB2A6BA$36.BAB.A2B.A3B$36.A3BAB3A3B$35.A
5B.5BA$35.3B3ABA3BA$35.3BA.2BA.BAB$35.A6B2ABA$31.B2A3.B2A6B$31.4A4.BA
4B$29.BA4B6.A2BA$29.2A4B$29.2BAB$30.3B$29.2B$28.B2AB$28.B2AB$28.4B$
22.2B5.2B$19.B2A12B$16.3BA2BA11B$16.5B2A11B30.4B$15.4BABA4B3A4B29.6B$
14.5BA8BA5B26.BAB2AB2AB$15.4B3A4BABA4B25.2B2AB2A2B2A$14.11B2A5B26.2BA
B.3B.3B$14.11BA2BA3B26.9B2AB$14.12B2AB29.2B2A2B.2B2A2B$17.2B5.2B33.B
2A9B$16.4B4.B.B32.3B.3B.BA2B$16.B2AB4.B2AB32.2A2B2AB2A2B$16.B2AB5.2A
2B.3B27.B2AB2ABAB$17.2B5.10B27.6B$15.3B7.10B26.4B$15.BA2B5.7B3A2B21.B
AB$13.4B2A4.8B3A3B8.B.3B7.2A2B$3.A2BA6.4BAB3.8BA2BA4B6.3BA2B5.BA2BAB$
3.4BAB4.4A5.8B2A6B4.4B2A2B.BAB.2A4B$2.6B2AB3.2AB7.10BA3B4.B2A8B4A2B$
2.AB2A6BA11.13B5.BA2B2A5B2A.A2B$.BAB.A2B.A3B11.8BA5B3.3B2A4B.BAB$.A3B
AB3A3B11.B2.2B2A8B2.9B$A5B.5BA10.AB3.B2A6B2AB.9B$3B3ABA3BA10.B2A3.9B
2A.10B$3BA.2BA.BAB10.2ABAB2.6B.B.12B$A6B2ABA10.A2B3A5.B.B6.10B$2.B2A
6B9.A.ABAB5.3B7.10B$4.BA4B8.BABA.A7.B2AB6.9B$6.A2BA7.3A2BA8.B2AB6.9B$
17.BAB2A10.2A4.AB.4B2A3B$19.2AB8.B2A4.E5B2A2BAB$19.BA9.4A3.A8B2AB$28.
BA4B4.BA.2B2A4B$18.4B6.2A4B3.2B2.2BA3B$18.6B4.2BAB4.A2BA.3B.B$17.B2AB
2ABAB3.3B4.B2AB$17.2A2B2AB2A2B9.2B$16.3B.3B.BA2B10.3B$16.B2A9B9.2BAB$
15.2B2A2B.2B2A2B9.2A4B$15.9B2AB10.BA4B6.A2BA$15.2BAB.3B.3B12.4A4.BA4B
$15.2B2AB2A2B2A13.B2A3.B2A6B$17.BAB2AB2AB17.A6B2ABA$19.6B18.3BA.2BA.B
AB$21.4B18.3B3ABA3BA$43.A5B.5BA$44.A3BAB3A3B$44.BAB.A2B.A3B$45.AB2A6B
A$45.6B2AB$46.4BAB$46.A2BA!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » December 28th, 2020, 8:11 pm

A smaller but less clear p3 domino sparker

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x = 38, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
5bo4bo16bo4bo$4bobo2bobo14bobo2bobo$4bob4obo14bob4obo$3b2o6b2o12b2o6b
2o$2bo2bob2obo2bo10bo2bob2obo2bo$bob2o2b2o2b2obo8bob2o2b2o2b2obo$bobo
2b4o2bobo8bobo2b4o2bobo$2ob3o4b3ob2o6b2ob3o4b3ob2o$bobo8bobo8bobo8bobo
$bobo3b2o3bobo8bobo3b2o3bobo$2bo10bo10bo10bo$8bo21bo$7bo2bo17bo2bo$7bo
2bo17bo2bo$9bo19bo$2bo10bo9bo10bo$bobo3b2o3bobo7bobo3b2o3bobo$bobo8bob
o7bobo8bobo$2ob3o4b3ob2o5b2ob3o4b3ob2o$bobo2b4o2bobo7bobo2b4o2bobo$bob
2o2b2o2b2obo7bob2o2b2o2b2obo$2bo2bob2obo2bo9bo2bob2obo2bo$3b2o6b2o11b
2o6b2o$4bob4obo13bob4obo$4bobo2bobo13bobo2bobo$5bo4bo15bo4bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » December 29th, 2020, 7:50 am

Scorbie wrote:
December 28th, 2020, 8:11 pm
A smaller but less clear p3 domino sparker
It dramatically reduces a p18:

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x = 29, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$15bobo$17bo$13b4ob2o$13bo2bobobo$11b2o2bo4bo$10bo2b2o2b2ob2o$10b
3o2b2obo2bo$8b2o3bo5b2o$9bob2obob2obo$7bo2bobobobobo2bo$5b4obo7bob4o$
4bo5bo2b3o2bo5bo$3bob5o9b5obo$b3obobo5b3o5bobob3o$o3bo2bo4bo3bo4bo2bo
3bo$b2o3bo4bo5bo4bo3b2o$2bob3o2bo2bo3bo2bo2b3obo$2bob3o2bo3b3o3bo2b3ob
o$b2o3bo15bo3b2o$o3bo2bo13bo2bo3bo$b3obobo13bobob3o$3bob5o9b5obo$4bo5b
o7bo5bo$5b4obo7bob4o$7bo2bob5obo2bo$9bob2obob2obo$8b2o4bo4b2o$10b3o2bo
b2o2bo$10bo2b2o3bob2o$11b2o2bo2bobo$13bo4bobo$13b4ob2o$17bo$15bobo$15b
2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by FWKnightship » December 29th, 2020, 9:52 am

P90 pre-pulsar hassler:

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x = 33, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
7bo2bob2obo2bo$6b2o2bo4bo2b2o$7bo2bob2obo2bo4$6b2o$7bo$7bobo$8b2o21bo$
12b3o16bo$12bobo15bobo$12b3o16bo$bo29bo$bo29bo$obo28bo$bo10b3o15bobo$b
o10bobo16bo$bo10b3o16bo$bo$obo$bo$bo21b2o$23bobo$25bo$25b2o4$14bo2bob
2obo2bo$13b2o2bo4bo2b2o$14bo2bob2obo2bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by GUYTU6J » December 29th, 2020, 10:30 am

FWKnightship wrote:
December 29th, 2020, 9:52 am

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x = 33, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
7bo2bob2obo2bo$6b2o2bo4bo2b2o$7bo2bob2obo2bo4$6b2o$7bo$7bobo$8b2o21bo$
12b3o16bo$12bobo15bobo$12b3o16bo$bo29bo$bo29bo$obo28bo$bo10b3o15bobo$b
o10bobo16bo$bo10b3o16bo$bo$obo$bo$bo21b2o$23bobo$25bo$25b2o4$14bo2bob
2obo2bo$13b2o2bo4bo2b2o$14bo2bob2obo2bo!
Nice! It is surely another simple 15-tick pre-pulsar turn, yet it got overlooked...
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The domino sparker can be replaced, leading to pre-pulsar hasslers of different periods.
Meanwhile, the stray spark can reflect a glider 90 degrees:

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x = 35, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
32bobo$32b2o$12bo2bob2obo2bo9bo$11b2o2bo4bo2b2o$12bo2bob2obo2bo4$11b2o
$12bo$12bobo$13b2o$8b2o20bo$9bo18bo2bo$8bo19bo2bo$8b2o7b3o3b3o3bo$2b2o
13bobo3bobo$3bo2b4o7b3o3b3o3bo$3bobo4bo17bo2bo$b2o2b2o2bobo16bo2bo$obo
bo5bo19bo$o2bob2o$bobo3bo$2bobobobo$4bobo2bo15b2o$4bo2bob3o13bobo$5bob
o4bo14bo$6b2ob3o15b2o$9bo$6b3o$6bo$16bo2bob2obo2bo$15b2o2bo4bo2b2o$16b
o2bob2obo2bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » December 29th, 2020, 1:34 pm

I think I saw this somewhere already:

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x = 21, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
4b2o9b2o$4bobo7bobo$b2obobo7bobob2o$bobobo9bobobo$3bo13bo$3b2o11b2o$3b
3o9b3o$3b3o4bo4b3o$3b3o2bo3bo2b3o$3b3o2bo3bo2b3o$3b2o4b3o4b2o$3bo13bo$
bobobo9bobobo$obobobo2b3o2bobobobo$obo2bo2b5o2bo2bobo$b2o3b9o3b2o$3b3o
9b3o$3bo2bo7bo2bo$4b2o9b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » December 30th, 2020, 10:33 am

Small P5 partial, capable of being a drifter catalyst:

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x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$9b3o2$7b2o$6bo2bo$bo3bo4bo3bo$obo2bob2obo2bobo$bobo8bobo$3bo8bo$
4bob4obo$obo10bobo$2o5b2o5b2o$6bo2bo$6bo2bo$6bo2bo!
EDIT: Nothing at w16. Trying w18 next. Please help me complete this, it's such a versatile catalyst.

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x = 178, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
43bo$42bobo88bo28bo$13b2o27bobo28b2o26bob2o26bobo29bo$13bob2o26bo30bo
27b2o28b2o26b4o2$12b2o28b2o30b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o$11bo2bo26bo2bo28bo2bo
26bo2bo26bo2bo26bo2bo$6bo3bo4bo3bo16bo3bo4bo3bo18bo3bo4bo3bo16bo3bo4bo
3bo16bo3bo4bo3bo16bo3bo4bo3bo$5bobo2bob2obo2bobo14bobo2bob2obo2bobo16b
obo2bob2obo2bobo14bobo2bob2obo2bobo14bobo2bob2obo2bobo14bobo2bob2obo2b
obo$6bobo8bobo16bobo8bobo18bobo8bobo16bobo8bobo16bobo8bobo16bobo8bobo$
8bo8bo20bo8bo22bo8bo20bo8bo20bo8bo20bo8bo$9bob4obo22bob4obo24bob4obo
22bob4obo22bob4obo22bob4obo$5bobo10bobo14bobo10bobo16bobo10bobo14bobo
10bobo14bobo10bobo14bobo10bobo$5b2o5b2o5b2o14b2o5b2o5b2o16b2o5b2o5b2o
14b2o5b2o5b2o14b2o5b2o5b2o14b2o5b2o5b2o$11bo2bo26bo2bo28bo2bo26bo2bo
26bo2bo26bo2bo$3b7obo2bob7o10b7obo2bob7o12b7obo2bob7o10b7obo2bob7o10b
7obo2bob7o10b7obo2bob7o$3bo4bo2bo2bo2bo4bo10bo4bo2bo2bo2bo4bo12bo4bo2b
o2bo2bo4bo10bo4bo2bo2bo2bo4bo10bo4bo2bo2bo2bo4bo10bo4bo2bo2bo2bo4bo$5b
3o10b3o14b3o10b3o16b3o10b3o14b3o10b3o14b3o10b3o14b3o10b3o$4b2ob4o4b4ob
2o12b2ob4o4b4ob2o14b2ob4o4b4ob2o12b2ob4o4b4ob2o12b2ob4o4b4ob2o12b2ob4o
4b4ob2o$2bo5bobo4bobo5bo8bo5bobo4bobo5bo10bo5bobo4bobo5bo8bo5bobo4bobo
5bo8bo5bobo4bobo5bo8bo5bobo4bobo5bo$2b5o12b5o8b5o12b5o10b5o12b5o8b5o
12b5o8b5o12b5o8b5o12b5o$6bob10obo16bob10obo18bob10obo16bob10obo16bob
10obo16bob10obo$4b3o2b2o4b2o2b3o12b3o2b2o4b2o2b3o14b3o2b2o4b2o2b3o12b
3o2b2o4b2o2b3o12b3o2b2o4b2o2b3o12b3o2b2o4b2o2b3o$3bo6bo4bo6bo10bo6bo4b
o6bo12bo6bo4bo6bo10bo6bo4bo6bo10bo6bo4bo6bo10bo6bo4bo6bo$3bo5b2o4b2o5b
o10bo5b2o4b2o5bo12bo5b2o4b2o5bo10bo5b2o4b2o5bo10bo5b2o4b2o5bo10bo5b2o
4b2o5bo$3b2ob2o10b2ob2o10b2ob2o10b2ob2o12b2ob2o10b2ob2o10b2ob2o10b2ob
2o10b2ob2o10b2ob2o10b2ob2o10b2ob2o$5b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o14b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o
16b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o14b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o14b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o14b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o$b
3obo14bob3o6b3obo14bob3o8b3obo14bob3o6b3obo14bob3o6b3obo14bob3o6b3obo
14bob3o$o2bo18bo2bo4bo2bo18bo2bo6bo2bo18bo2bo4bo2bo18bo2bo4bo2bo18bo2b
o4bo2bo18bo2bo$bobo18bobo6bobo18bobo8bobo18bobo6bobo18bobo6bobo18bobo
6bobo18bobo$2bo20bo8bo20bo10bo20bo8bo20bo8bo20bo8bo20bo!
Edit 2: It's also a snake catalyst!

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x = 35, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
13b2o18b2o$14bo19bo2$12b2o18b2o$11bo2bo17bo$6bo3bo4bo3bo13bo$5bobo2bob
2obo2bobo11b2o$6bobo8bobo$8bo8bo$9bob4obo$5bobo10bobo$5b2o5b2o5b2o$11b
o2bo$3b7obo2bob7o$3bo4bo2bo2bo2bo4bo$5b3o10b3o$4b2ob4o4b4ob2o$2bo5bobo
4bobo5bo$2b5o12b5o$6bob10obo$4b3o2b2o4b2o2b3o$3bo6bo4bo6bo$3bo5b2o4b2o
5bo$3b2ob2o10b2ob2o$5b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o$b3obo14bob3o$o2bo18bo2bo$bobo18bo
bo$2bo20bo!
Edit 3: Also capable of being an eater 3.

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x = 26, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
16bobo$16b2o$17bo2$12b2o$11bo2bo$6bo3bo4bo3bo$5bobo2bob2obo2bobo$6bobo
8bobo$8bo8bo$9bob4obo$5bobo10bobo$5b2o5b2o5b2o$11bo2bo$3b7obo2bob7o$3b
o4bo2bo2bo2bo4bo$5b3o10b3o$4b2ob4o4b4ob2o$2bo5bobo4bobo5bo$2b5o12b5o$
6bob10obo$4b3o2b2o4b2o2b3o$3bo6bo4bo6bo$3bo5b2o4b2o5bo$3b2ob2o10b2ob2o
$5b3o2b2o2b2o2b3o$b3obo14bob3o$o2bo18bo2bo$bobo18bobo$2bo20bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » December 31st, 2020, 12:22 am

Another uninteresting p2:

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x = 23, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
18bobo$16bo2bo$17bobob2o$15b2o2bo$17b3obo$8b3o2b2obo3bo$5bo10bo2bo$4bo
bo2b2ob2o2bobo$3bo2bo10bo$2bo3bob2o2b3o$bob3o$3bo2b2o$2obobo$3bo2bo$2b
obo!
Almost impossible to stabilize p22 honey farm hassler:

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x = 37, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
9bo$7b3o$6bo$6b2o2$4bo$3b3o$2b5o7bo$b3ob2o8b2o$2bo2bo8b2o13bobo$3b2o
24b2o$30bo2$19bobo$20b2o3bo$20bo2b2o$5b2o17b2o10bo$4bo2bo26b3o$3b2ob3o
7bo16bo$3b5o8bo16b2o$4b3o5bo6b2o2bo$5bo6bo3bo3bo3bo6bo$13bo2b2o6bo5b3o
$2b2o16bo8b5o$3bo16bo7b3ob2o$3o26bo2bo$o10b2o17b2o$12b2o2bo$11bo3b2o$
15bobo2$6bo$6b2o24b2o$5bobo13b2o8bo2bo$20b2o8b2ob3o$22bo7b5o$31b3o$32b
o2$29b2o$30bo$27b3o$27bo!
I couldn't find oscillators that can complete the pattern and there's no p22 edge-shooting glider gun that can work. A p22 lwss stream crashing into a high clearance eater would provide the spark but there are only pseudo-period p22 lwss guns.
Edit: Here is what I was talking about:

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x = 67, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
26bobo$27b2o19bo$27bo18b2o$23bo23b2o$23b3o$26bo5bo$21b6o6b2o2bo$21bo
10b2o3bo3bobo$23b6o12b2o$29bo12bo$26b2obo$11bo2bo13bo$b4o10bo$o3bo6bo
3bo6bo8b2o$4bo7b4o10bo2bo3bo$o2bo18bo2bo2bo2b2o4bo$28bo2b2ob2o2bo$29bo
4b2o2bo2bo21bo2bo$33bo3bo2bo10b4o7bo$34b2o8bo6bo3bo6bo3bo$51bo10b4o$
38bo13bo2bo$37bob2o$24bo12bo$24b2o12b6o$23bobo3bo3b2o10bo$29bo2b2o6b6o
$34bo5bo$41b3o$18b2o23bo$19b2o18bo$18bo19b2o$38bobo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » December 31st, 2020, 12:33 am

Hm.

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x = 37, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
9bo$7b3o$6bo$7bo$3bo3bo$2bo$bo3bo$o3bo$o$2bob2o$3b3o4$19b2o2b2o$19b2o
bo2bo$4b3o16b2o11bo$4b2obo26b3o$9bo23bo$5bo3bo9bo14bo$4bo3bo8b2obo9bo
3bo$7bo8bo3bo8bo$2bo3bo9bob2o8bo3bo$2bo14bo9bo3bo$3bo23bo$3o9bo16bob2o
$o10b5o14b3o$15bo2$14b2o$15bo$6b3o$8bo11b2o9b3o$7bo12bobo8b2obo$20bo15b
o$32bo3bo$31bo3bo$34bo$29bo3bo$29bo$30bo$27b3o$27bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » January 1st, 2021, 7:49 am

Crossposting from Discord: A robust p5 sparker based on these partial results. Originally by wwei23 with substantial reduction by Scorbie, December 31, 2020:

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x = 26, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$11bo2bo$6bo3bo4bo3bo$5bobo2bob2obo2bobo$4bobobo8bobobo$4bo3bo8bo
3bo$b2obo2bobob4obobo2bob2o$obobobo12bobobobo$o2bobo6b2o6bobo2bo$bobo
7bo2bo7bobo$2ob6ob2o2b2ob6ob2o$bo7bobo2bobo7bo$bobobo3b2ob2ob2o3bobobo
$2b3o16b3o$5bob2o8b2obo$2b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o$2bo2bob2o8b2obo2bo$3b2o2b2obo
4bob2o2b2o$6b2obobo2bobob2o$3b3o4bo4bo4b3o$3bo2b4o6b4o2bo$6bo12bo$7bo
10bo$6b2o10b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » January 1st, 2021, 4:08 pm

Sokwe wrote:
January 1st, 2021, 7:49 am
Crossposting from Discord: A robust p5 sparker based on these partial results. Originally by wwei23 with substantial reduction by Scorbie, December 31, 2020:

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x = 26, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$11bo2bo$6bo3bo4bo3bo$5bobo2bob2obo2bobo$4bobobo8bobobo$4bo3bo8bo
3bo$b2obo2bobob4obobo2bob2o$obobobo12bobobobo$o2bobo6b2o6bobo2bo$bobo
7bo2bo7bobo$2ob6ob2o2b2ob6ob2o$bo7bobo2bobo7bo$bobobo3b2ob2ob2o3bobobo
$2b3o16b3o$5bob2o8b2obo$2b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o$2bo2bob2o8b2obo2bo$3b2o2b2obo
4bob2o2b2o$6b2obobo2bobob2o$3b3o4bo4bo4b3o$3bo2b4o6b4o2bo$6bo12bo$7bo
10bo$6b2o10b2o!
Scorbie noted this 1-row reduction:

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x = 26, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$11bo2bo$6bo3bo4bo3bo$5bobo2bob2obo2bobo$4bobobo8bobobo$4bo3bo8bo
3bo$b2obo2bobob4obobo2bob2o$obobobo12bobobobo$o2bobo6b2o6bobo2bo$bobo
7bo2bo7bobo$2ob6ob2o2b2ob6ob2o$bo7bobo2bobo7bo$bobobo3b2ob2ob2o3bobobo
$2b3o16b3o$5bob2o8b2obo$2b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o$2bo2bob2o8b2obo2bo$3b2o2b2obo
4bob2o2b2o$6b2obobo2bobob2o$3b3o4bo4bo4b3o$3bo2b4o6b4o2bo$6bo2bobo2bob
o2bo$10b2o2b2o!

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » January 2nd, 2021, 9:40 pm

A completion of the p20 base reaction from A for awesome (praosylen on discord)
Just posted here for archiving purposes. (And a little fun)

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x = 51, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
21b2o$22bo2b2o$22bobo2bo$21b2ob3obob2o$22bobobob2obo$20bo$19bob3obob4o
$19bo3b2ob2o3bo$20b3ob3ob3o$bo2bo5b2o10bo5bo10b2o5bo2bo$b4o2bobo2bo3bo
17bo3bo2bobo2b4o$5b3ob2obo2bobo5bo3bo5bobo2bob2ob3o$3b2o5bobobobobo6bo
6bobobobobo5b2o$2bo3b4o2bobo3bo13bo3bobo2b4o3bo$bo2bobo7b2o2b2o11b2o2b
2o7bobo2bo$bobo5b2obob2o8b3o8b2obob2o5bobo$2obobo3bob2obob4o3bo3bo3b4o
bob2obo3bobob2o$3bobob2o3bo7b3o5b3o7bo3b2obobo$3bo3bo4bo3bo2bo11bo2bo
3bo4bo3bo$4b6o2bo7b3o5b3o7bo2b6o$9bo13bo3bo13bo$6b3o7b2o6b3o6b2o7b3o$
6bo4b2o2bo2bo13bo2bo2b2o4bo$11bo4bobo6bo6bobo4bo$8b2obo5bo7bo7bo5bob2o
$9bobob2o21b2obobo$8bo2bo2bo5bo2bobobo2bo5bo2bo2bo$8b2o2bo4bo2b11o2bo
4bo2b2o$13b5o15b5o$20b3o5b3o$12bob2o3bobob2ob2obobo3b2obo$12b2obo2bo5b
obo5bo2bob2o$15bobo15bobo$15b2o4bo2bobo2bo4b2o$21bo2bobo2bo$22b2o3b2o!
Edit because I don't want to spam the forums:
Sokwe made a significant reduction, making the thing more usable

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x = 37, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$15bo2b2o$15bobo2bo$14b2obobobo$15bobobob3o$13bo3b3o4bo$12bob3obo
b3obo$8bo4bo9bo4bo$8b3o4bobobobo4b3o$11bo2b3obob3o2bo$2b2ob2o3bo2bo9bo
2bo3b2ob2o$3bobobo2b3obo7bob3o2bobobo$2bo2bob3o3bo9bo3b3obo2bo$3b2o6bo
13bo6b2o$6bob5o11b5obo$3b2obo23bob2o$2bobobo2b4o11b4o2bobobo$2bobob4o
3bo4bo4bo3b4obobo$b2obo2b2o3bobo2b3o2bobo3b2o2bob2o$4bo8bo9bo8bo$4b2o
25b2o2$4b2o2b3o15b3o2b2o$bo2bo4b2o15b2o4bo2bo$obobo5bo7b3o5bo5bobobo$b
o2bob2o21b2obo2bo$4bo2bo9bo3bo7bo2bo$5bo4bo15bo4bo$6b5o6bo2bo5b5o$16bo
2b2o$8bo6bobobo2bo5bo$7bobo5bob3o3bo3bobo$8bo7bobobobo5bo$17bo$14b3o$
14bo!
Last edited by Scorbie on January 2nd, 2021, 10:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by praosylen » January 2nd, 2021, 9:59 pm

Scorbie wrote:
January 2nd, 2021, 9:40 pm
A completion of the p20 base reaction from A for awesome (praosylen on discord)
Just posted here for archiving purposes. (And a little fun)

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rle
Nice, I love oscillating completions for things like this! Here's a stator reduction (and the minimal phase):

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x = 51, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
21b2o$22bo2b2o$22bobo2bo$21b2obobobob2o$22bobobob2obo$20bo$19bob3obob
4o$19bo4b3o4bo$3bo16b3ob3ob3o16bo$2bobo5b2o10b7o10b2o5bobo$3b2o2bobo2b
o3bo17bo3bo2bobo2b2o$5b3ob2obo2bobo15bobo2bob2ob3o$3b2o5bobobobobo13b
obobobobo5b2o$2bo3b4o2bobo3bo13bo3bobo2b4o3bo$bo2bobo7b2o2b2o11b2o2b2o
7bobo2bo$bobo5b2obob2o19b2obob2o5bobo$2obobo3bob2obob4o11b4obob2obo3b
obob2o$3bobob2o3bo7bo3b3o3bo7bo3b2obobo$3bo3bo4bo3bo2bobo2b3o2bobo2bo
3bo4bo3bo$4b6o2bo7bo4bo4bo7bo2b6o$9bo31bo$6b3o7bo17bo7b3o$6bo4b2o2bob
o15bobo2b2o4bo$11bo3bo2bo13bo2bo3bo$8b2obo4b2o15b2o4bob2o$9bobob2o9b3o
9b2obobo$8bo2bo2bo5bo2bobobo2bo5bo2bo2bo$8b2o2bo4bo2b4o3b4o2bo4bo2b2o
$13b5o7bo7b5o$18b4o7b4o$15b2obo2bo7bo2bob2o$15bobo4b3ob3o4bobo3$22b2o
3b2o$22b2o3b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » January 2nd, 2021, 11:39 pm

JP21 wrote:
December 31st, 2020, 2:18 pm

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x = 67, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
12b2o27b2o11b2o$11bo2bo25bo2bo9bo2bo$11b3o27b3o9b3o2$9b7o23b7o5b7o$9bo
5bo23bo5bo5bo5bo$12bo29bo11bo$11b3o27b3o9b3o$11b3o27b3o9b3o$10bo3bo25b
o3bo7bo3bo$21b2o9b2o29b2o$11b3o7bo11bo7b3o9b3o7bo$17bo4bo9bo4bo21bo4bo
$9b3o3bobo3b2o9b2o3bobo3b3o5b3o3bobo3b2o$13bo5bo15bo5bo4bo8bo5bo$8bo4b
o6b5o5b5o6bo6bobo4bo6b5o$9b3o7bo4bo5bo4bo7b3o2bo2b3o7bo4bo$21bobo7bobo
29bobo$11b3o7bo11bo7b3o9b3o7bo2$10bo3bo25bo3bo7bo3bo$11b3o27b3o9b3o$
11b3o27b3o9b3o$2b3o7bo29bo11bo$bo2bo4bo5bo23bo5bo5bo5bo$4bo4b7o23b7o5b
7o$o3bo$o3bo6b3o27b3o9b3o$4bo6bo2bo25bo2bo9bo2bo$bobo8b2o27b2o11b2o!
It was noted on Discord that this can work in place of the toad in a toad flipper. Here's the smallest (by population) p2 I could find that can supports this reaction:

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x = 18, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$6bo4bo$5bo6bo$4bo8bo$4bo8bo$4bo8bo$5bo6bo$6bo4bo$8b2o2$7bo$6bo2bo
$6bo2bo3bo$4bobo2bobo2bob2o$2bobo6bo2bobo$7bobobo2bobo$2o4bo9b2o$6b2o
4bobo$bo10b2o$3bo11bo$3bobo$7bo6b2o$7bobo$11bobo$11bo!
This slightly wider variant with the same population could be useful in some situations:

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x = 20, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$6bo4bo$5bo6bo$4bo8bo$4bo8bo$4bo8bo$5bo6bo$6bo4bo$8b2o2$7bo$6bo2bo
$6bo2bo3bo$4bobo2bobo2bo$2bobo6bo2bo3bo$7bobobo2bobo2bo$2o4bo9bo2bo$6b
2o4bobo2bo$bo10b2o$3bo11bo$3bobo$7bo6b2o$7bobo$11bobo$11bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » January 3rd, 2021, 2:05 am

Sokwe wrote:
January 2nd, 2021, 11:39 pm
Here's the smallest (by population) p2 I could find that can supports this reaction:

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rle
I was already thinking of a way to improve clearance.

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x = 90, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
44bo$43bo2bo$39bo3bo2bo3bo$38bo2bobo2bobo2bo$34bo3bo2bo6bo2bo3bo$33bo
2bobo2bo2b2o2bo2bobo2bo$29bo3bo2bo16bo2bo3bo$28bo2bobo2bo2b2o5bo2b2o2b
o2bobo2bo$24bo3bo2bo26bo2bo3bo$23bo2bobo2bo2b2o5bobo2b2o3bo2b2o2bo2bob
o2bo$19bo3bo2bo15b2o19bo2bo3bo$18bo2bobo2bo2b2o5bo3bo7bo2b2o3bo2b2o2bo
2bobo2bo$14bo3bo2bo13bo2bobob2o24bo2bo3bo$4b2o7bo2bobo2bo2b2o5bo3b2o2b
2obo5b2o3bo2b2o3bo2b2o2bo2bobo2bo7b2o$4bo4bo3bo2bo25bo30bo2bo3bo4bo$b
2obo2b2o2bobo2bo2b2o5bo4b2o6b3ob2o5bo2b2o3bo2b2o3bo2b2o2bo2bobo2b2o2bo
b2o$obobob3o2bo26bo2bo2bo3bo29bo2b3obobobo$obobo2b2o2bo2b2o5bobo2b2o5b
obo2bo2bobo4bo2b3o4b2o3bo2b2o3bo2b2o2bo2b2o2bobobo$bo2bo4bo12b2o10b2o
3b3ob2o2bo32bo4bo2bo$4b2o10bo3bo7bo3bo27bo2b2o3bo2b2o3bo7b2o$15bo2bobo
b2o3bo2bobob2o5b6o11bo$15b2o2b2ob2o3b2o2b2ob2o5bo16bo2b3o4b2o3bo2b2o6b
2o$43bobo11bo26bo$43bo11bo14bo2b2o3bobo4bo$53bobo12bo11bo3b2o$55bobob
2o7bo2b3o8bo$52b2obob2obo6bo15b5o$55bo9bo16bo4bo$54b2o7bobo18bobo$65bo
bob2o13bo$62b2obob2obo$65bo$64b2o!
But I never thought there would be any other way to do it. That even has better clearance!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » January 3rd, 2021, 1:53 pm

Sokwe wrote:
January 2nd, 2021, 11:39 pm
It was noted on Discord that this can work in place of the toad in a toad flipper. Here's the smallest (by population) p2 I could find that can supports this reaction:
Should this be added to the wiki?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by dani » January 3rd, 2021, 8:45 pm

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
January 1st, 2021, 4:08 pm
Sokwe wrote:
January 1st, 2021, 7:49 am
Crossposting from Discord: A robust p5 sparker based on these partial results. Originally by wwei23 with substantial reduction by Scorbie, December 31, 2020:
Scorbie noted this 1-row reduction:
I found this p5 interaction on 12/31/2020 over at the Discord, but forgot to post it until now:

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x = 26, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
6b2o10b2o$7bo10bo$6bo12bo$3bo2b4o6b4o2bo$3b3o4bo4bo4b3o$6b2obobo2bobob
2o$3b2o2b2obo4bob2o2b2o$2bo2bob2o8b2obo2bo$2b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o$5bob2o8b2o
bo$2b3o16b3o$bobobo3b2ob2ob2o3bobobo$bo7bobo2bobo7bo$2ob6ob2o2b2ob6ob
2o$bobo7bo2bo7bobo$o2bobo6b2o6bobo2bo$obobobo12bobobobo$b2obo2bobob4ob
obo2bob2o$4bo3bo8bo3bo$4bobobo8bobobo$5bobo2bob2obo2bobo$6bo3bo4bo3bo$
11bo2bo$12b2o2$11bo2bo$11bo2bo$11bo2bo2$12b2o$11bo2bo$6bo3bo4bo3bo$5bo
bo2bob2obo2bobo$4bobobo8bobobo$4bo3bo8bo3bo$b2obo2bobob4obobo2bob2o$ob
obobo12bobobobo$o2bobo6b2o6bobo2bo$bobo7bo2bo7bobo$2ob6ob2o2b2ob6ob2o$
bo7bobo2bobo7bo$bobobo3b2ob2ob2o3bobobo$2b3o16b3o$5bob2o8b2obo$2b2o3b
2o8b2o3b2o$2bo2bob2o8b2obo2bo$3b2o2b2obo4bob2o2b2o$6b2obobo2bobob2o$3b
3o4bo4bo4b3o$3bo2b4o6b4o2bo$6bo12bo$7bo10bo$6b2o10b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » January 4th, 2021, 1:32 pm

Highly symmetrical and higher clearance "toad replacer/monotoadflip" (with variations)

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x = 30, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
14bo$13bo2bo$13bo2bo$8b2obobo2bobob2o$3b2ob4o2b6o2b4ob2o$2bob2o6bo4bo
6b2obo$2b2o4bobo8bobo4b2o$3bo3b2ob10ob2o3bo$3o11b2o11bo$o5bob5ob2obo6b
o2bo$6b2obo2bo4b3o3bob2o$13bo2bo3bo2bo$11bobo2bob2obobo$11b2o4bobob2o
3$14bo$13bo2bo$13bo2bo$8b2obobo2bobob2o$3b2ob4o2b6o2b4ob2o$2bob2o6bo4b
o6b2obo$2b2o4bobo8bobo4b2o$3bo3b2ob10ob2o3bo$3o11b2o11b3o$o11bob2obo
11bo$10b3o4b3o$9bo3bo2bo3bo$9b2o2bo2bo2b2o$14b2o!
Edit: More variations:

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x = 30, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
14bo$13bo2bo$13bo2bo$8b2obobo2bobob2o$3b2ob4o2b6o2b4ob2o$2bob2o6bo4bo
6b2obo$2b2o4bobo8bobo4b2o$3bo3b2ob10ob2o3bo$3o11b2o11b3o$o11b3ob2o11bo
$11bo5bo$11bobo2bo$12b2o2bobo$17b2o3$14bo$13bo2bo$13bo2bo$8b2obobo2bob
ob2o$3b2ob4o2b6o2b4ob2o$2bob2o6bo4bo6b2obo$2b2o4bobo8bobo4b2o$3bo3b2ob
10ob2o3bo$3o11b2o11b3o$o11b3ob7o6bo$11bo10bo$11bobo2b4o$12b2o2bo2bo!

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