Oscillator Discussion Thread

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » October 9th, 2020, 4:12 pm

Is this stabilization of Beluchenko's P13 known? I didn't see it in jslife.

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x = 27, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
18bo$17bobo$8b2ob2o5bo$9bobo$8bobo5b5o$9b2o5bo4bo$9bo9bo2bo$10bo8b2obo
2bo$2bobo6b2o3bo5bobobo$2b2ob2o5b2obobo4bo2bo$4b2obo7bo2bo2b2o$2b2o4bo
7b2o$2bo5b2o$9bo7bo$17b2o5bo$9b2o7bo4b2o$4b2o2bo2bo7bob2o$bo2bo4bobob
2o5b2ob2o$obobo5bo3b2o6bobo$bo2bob2o8bo$4bo2bo9bo$5bo4bo5b2o$6b5o5bobo
$15bobo$8bo5b2ob2o$7bobo$8bo!
EDIT: P41 wick near-miss

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x = 17, y = 45, rule = Life
5bo5bo$4bobo3bobo$4bobo3bobo$3b2ob2ob2ob2o2$bo13bo$obo11bobo$bo13bo3$
4b3o3b3o$4bo2bobo2bo$2bo4bobo4bo$2bo11bo$6b2ob2o$6bo3bo$3b2o7b2o$2b3o
7b3o$4bo7bo$5b2o3b2o$b2o3bo3bo3b2o$b3obo5bob3o$o15bo$b3obo5bob3o$b2o3b
o3bo3b2o$5b2o3b2o$4bo7bo$2b3o7b3o$3b2o7b2o$6bo3bo$6b2ob2o$2bo11bo$2bo
4bobo4bo$4bo2bobo2bo$4b3o3b3o3$bo13bo$obo11bobo$bo13bo2$3b2ob2ob2ob2o$
4bobo3bobo$4bobo3bobo$5bo5bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Bullet51 » October 18th, 2020, 9:59 pm

Dimerization of a known p9 oscillator:

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x = 23, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
8b2o3b2o$7bo2bobo2bo$7bob2ob2obo$2o4b2o7b2o4b2o$o2b2o4b2ob2o4b2o2bo$b
3ob4obobob4ob3o$5bo4bobo4bo$3b2ob2o2bobo2b2ob2o$3bo5bobobo5bo$4b4obobo
bob4o$8bobobobo$4b2o2bobobobo2b2o$4b2o3bo3bo3b2o!
Still drifting.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by BlinkerSpawn » October 19th, 2020, 8:46 pm

Bullet51 wrote:
October 18th, 2020, 9:59 pm
Dimerization of a known p9 oscillator:

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rle
You know the drill:

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x = 23, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
8bobobobo$7bob2ob2obo$5b3o7b3o$4bo4b2ob2o4bo$3bob4obobob4obo$3bobo4bob
o4bobo$b2obo2bo2b3o2bo2bob2o$o2bo5bo3bo5bo2bo$2o2b4obobobob4o2b2o$8bob
obobo$6bobobobobobo$6b2o3bo3b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » October 20th, 2020, 12:03 am

BlinkerSpawn wrote:
October 19th, 2020, 8:46 pm
Bullet51 wrote:
October 18th, 2020, 9:59 pm
Dimerization of a known p9 oscillator:

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rle
You know the drill:

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rle

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x = 21, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
7bobobobo$6bob2ob2obo$4b3o7b3o$3bo4b2ob2o4bo$2bob4obobob4obo$2bobo4bob
o4bobo$3bo2bo2b3o2bo2bo$3o5bo3bo5b3o$o2b4obobobob4o2bo$3bo3bobobobo3bo
$6bo2bobo2bo$7b2o3b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » October 21st, 2020, 2:13 pm

We don't seem to have enough V sparkers. Here's a partial for a P5 V sparker that I'm currently working on:

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x = 27, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
13bo$12bobo$6b2o11b2o$6bobo9bobo$3b2obo3b7o3bob2o$3b2obo3b2obob2o3bob
2o$6bo2bob5obo2bo$3b2ob3o9b3ob2o$3bo2b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o2bo$4bob2o3b5o3b2o
bo$b3o2bo3bo5bo3bo2b3o$bo2b4o2b7o2b4o2bo$3bo5bobo3bobo5bo$2b2o2b2o3b5o
3b2o2b2o$o2bobo2b4obob4o2bobo2bo$2o3b2o4bo3bo4b2o3b2o$4bo3b3o5b3o3bo$
4b3o13b3o$10bo5bo$4b4o3bo3bo3b4o$4bo2bo11bo2bo$2bobo3bo2b2ob2o2bo3bob
o$2b2o5b3obob3o5b2o$10b7o2$9b4ob4o$12bobo!
EDIT: Longer:

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x = 27, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
13bo$13bo$6b2o11b2o$6bo4b5o4bo$3b2obo2b2o2bo2b2o2bob2o$3b2ob2obo7bob2o
b2o$6bob2obobobob2obo$3b2o3b2o3bo3b2o3b2o$3bo6b2obob2o6bo$4bo7b3o7bo$b
3o6bo5bo6b3o$bo2b4obo2b3o2bob4o2bo$3bo4bo9bo4bo$2b2o2b2o5bo5b2o2b2o$o
2bobo2b2o3bo3b2o2bobo2bo$2o3b3o3b2ob2o3b3o3b2o$4bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo$4b2o
4bo5bo4b2o$7bo11bo$4b4o11b4o$4bo2b2o2b2ob2o2b2o2bo$2bobo3b2ob5ob2o3bob
o$2b2o5bo7bo5b2o$9bo3bo3bo$5b2o2bo7bo2b2o$5bo4b3ob3o4bo$2b2obo4bobobob
o4bob2o$bobob2o4b2ob2o4b2obobo$bobo3bobo7bobo3bobo$2bo2b2obo3b3o3bob2o
2bo$3b2obobo3b3o3bobob2o$4bo2bo2b2o3b2o2bo2bo$4bob2ob2o5b2ob2obo$b2obo
3b3o5b3o3bob2o$bo2bo2bo3bo3bo3bo2bo2bo$2b2ob5o2bobo2b5ob2o$4bo2b3o7b3o
2bo$4bobob2o7b2obobo$5b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$8bo9bo$5b4obo5bob4o$4bo4bo3bo
3bo4bo$4bob2o4b3o4b2obo$3b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o$6bo3b7o3bo$6b2o2bo5bo2b2o$
10b3ob3o$6b2o2b2obob2o2b2o$6bob2o2bobo2b2obo$7bobo7bobo$5bobobo2b3o2bo
bobo$4bobob3o5b3obobo$3bo2bo4b5o4bo2bo$3bobobo3bo3bo3bobobo$2b2obo6b3o
6bob2o$6b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o$12bobo$4b3o5bobo5b3o$3bo3bo3bobobo3bo3bo$4b2ob
2ob2obob2ob2ob2o$5bob3o3bo3b3obo$5bob2obob3obob2obo$6b2o11b2o!
Edit 2: Even longer...

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x = 27, y = 76, rule = B3/S23
13bo$12bobo$6b2o11b2o$6bobo9bobo$3b2obo3b7o3bob2o$3b2obo3b2obob2o3bob
2o$6bo2bob5obo2bo$3b2ob3o9b3ob2o$3bo2b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o2bo$4bob2o3b5o3b2o
bo$b3o2bo3bo5bo3bo2b3o$bo2b4o2b7o2b4o2bo$3bo5bobo3bobo5bo$2b2o2b2o3b5o
3b2o2b2o$o2bobo2b4obob4o2bobo2bo$2o3b2o4bo3bo4b2o3b2o$4bo3b3o5b3o3bo$
4b3o13b3o$10bo5bo$4b4o3bo3bo3b4o$4bo2bo11bo2bo$2bobo3bo2b2ob2o2bo3bobo
$2b2o5b3obob3o5b2o$10b7o$5b2o13b2o$5bo3b4ob4o3bo$2b2obo6bobo6bob2o$2bo
2b2o5bobo5b2o2bo$3bo7bo3bo7bo$2b2ob2ob11ob2ob2o$4bobobobo5bobobobo$4bo
5bo5bo5bo$b2obobo2b2o2bo2b2o2bobob2o$bo2bob2o11b2obo2bo$3b2ob2o2bo5bo
2b2ob2o$5bo3bobo3bobo3bo$3b2o3b2ob2ob2ob2o3b2o$4bobobo2b5o2bobobo$4bob
o3bo5bo3bobo$5bo4bobobobo4bo$6b3obo5bob3o$3b3o2bob2obob2obo2b3o$2bo2bo
2bo9bo2bo2bo$2b2obobob9obobob2o$5bobo4b3o4bobo$5bobo2bo5bo2bobo$4b2obo
b2o5b2obob2o$7bo11bo$7bob9obo$6b2obob5obob2o$3bo2bo2bobobobobo2bo2bo$
3b3o2b2obo3bob2o2b3o$6b2o2bob3obo2b2o$5bo2bo3b3o3bo2bo$4bo2bob3o3b3obo
2bo$5b3o3bo3bo3b3o$8b4o3b4o$7bo2b2o3b2o2bo$7b2o9b2o$11b2ob2o$11bobobo$
8b2obobobob2o$8bo2bobobo2bo$9b2o5b2o$6b3o2b5o2b3o$3bobo3bo3bo3bo3bobo$
3b2ob2obobo3bobob2ob2o$6bo2bobo3bobo2bo$6bobo3bobo3bobo$5b2obobobobobo
bob2o$8bobob3obobo$8bo2bobobo2bo$7b2o2bobobo2b2o$5bo2bob2obob2obo2bo$
5b2o3bo2bo2bo3b2o$10bo5bo!
Edit 3: Aww yeah!!!

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x = 27, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
13bo$12bobo$6b2o11b2o$6bobo9bobo$3b2obo3b7o3bob2o$3b2obo3b2obob2o3bob
2o$6bo2bob5obo2bo$3b2ob3o9b3ob2o$3bo2b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o2bo$4bob2o3b5o3b2o
bo$b3o2bo3bo5bo3bo2b3o$bo2b4o2b7o2b4o2bo$3bo5bobo3bobo5bo$2b2o2b2o3b5o
3b2o2b2o$o2bobo2b4obob4o2bobo2bo$2o3b2o4bo3bo4b2o3b2o$4bo3b3o5b3o3bo$
4b3o13b3o$10bo5bo$4b4o3bo3bo3b4o$4bo2bo11bo2bo$2bobo3bo2b2ob2o2bo3bobo
$2b2o5b3obob3o5b2o$10b7o$5b2o13b2o$5bo3b4ob4o3bo$2b2obo6bobo6bob2o$3bo
b2o5bobo5b2obo$3bo7bo3bo7bo$2b2ob2ob11ob2ob2o$4bobobobo5bobobobo$4bo5b
o5bo5bo$3b2obo2b2o2bo2b2o2bob2o$4bob2o11b2obo$4bob2o2bo5bo2b2obo$2b2ob
o3bobo3bobo3bob2o$bo2bo3b2ob2ob2ob2o3bo2bo$2bobobobo2b5o2bobobobo$b2ob
obo3bo5bo3bobob2o$3bobo4bobobobo4bobo$3bo2b3obo5bob3o2bo$4b2o2bob2obob
2obo2b2o$5bo2bo9bo2bo$5bobob9obobo$4b2obo4b3o4bob2o$5bobo2bo5bo2bobo$
5bobob2o5b2obobo$4b2obo11bob2o$7bob9obo$7bobob5obobo$3b2ob2obo2b3o2bob
2ob2o$4bobo6bo6bobo$4bo2bob2o2bo2b2obo2bo$5bobo5bo5bobo$4b2obob2o5b2ob
ob2o$4bo2bo2bo5bo2bo2bo$6bo2bobo3bobo2bo$7b2ob3ob3ob2o$8bo4bo4bo$8bob
7obo$9bo7bo$10b3ob3o$12bobo!
Edit 4: Stator reduction:

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x = 27, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
13bo$12bobo$6b2o11b2o$6bobo9bobo$3b2obo3b7o3bob2o$3b2obo3b2obob2o3bob
2o$6bo2bob5obo2bo$3b2ob3o9b3ob2o$3bo2b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o2bo$4bob2o3b5o3b2o
bo$b3o2bo3bo5bo3bo2b3o$bo2b4o2b7o2b4o2bo$3bo5bobo3bobo5bo$2b2o2b2o3b5o
3b2o2b2o$o2bobo2b4obob4o2bobo2bo$2o3b2o4bo3bo4b2o3b2o$4bo3b3o5b3o3bo$
4b3o13b3o$10bo5bo$4b4o3bo3bo3b4o$4bo2bo11bo2bo$2bobo3bo2b2ob2o2bo3bobo
$2b2o5b3obob3o5b2o$10b7o$5b2o13b2o$5bo3b4ob4o3bo$2b2obo6bobo6bob2o$3bo
b2o5bobo5b2obo$3bo7bo3bo7bo$2b2ob2ob11ob2ob2o$4bobobobo5bobobobo$4bo5b
o5bo5bo$3b2obo2b2o2bo2b2o2bob2o$4bob2o11b2obo$4bob2o2bo5bo2b2obo$2b2ob
o3bobo3bobo3bob2o$bo2bo3b2ob2ob2ob2o3bo2bo$2bobobobo2b5o2bobobobo$b2ob
obo3bo5bo3bobob2o$3bobo4bobobobo4bobo$3bo2b3obo5bob3o2bo$4b2o2bob2obob
2obo2b2o$5bo2bo9bo2bo$5bobob9obobo$4b2obo4b3o4bob2o$7bo2bo5bo2bo$7bob
2o5b2obo$6b2o11b2o$7bob9obo$7bobob5obobo$3b2ob2obo2b3o2bob2ob2o$4bobo
6bo6bobo$4bo2bob2o2bo2b2obo2bo$5bobo5bo5bobo$4b2obob2o5b2obob2o$4bo2bo
2bo5bo2bo2bo$6bo2bobo3bobo2bo$7b2ob3ob3ob2o$8bo4bo4bo$8bob7obo$9bo7bo$
10b3ob3o$12bobo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 22nd, 2020, 10:55 am

Is there a variant of centinal where the time offset between the two twin bees shuttles is different?



Edit: Is there a variant of the twin bees shuttle with more than two B-heptominoes? I know that when enough B-heptominoes are in a row, they send B-heptominoes in the opposite direction without needed to crash into blocks, and I know that it's possible to stabilize triplet B-heptominoes going in the same direction, at least temporarily.

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x = 12, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
2o8b2o$2o8b2o3$bo$b2o$2b2o$b2o4$b2o$2b2o$b2o$bo2$bo$b2o$2b2o$b2o4$5b2o$5b2o!
Marine has a non-centered Moore neighborhood and at least one elementary gun with a very high period (11,843).
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » October 30th, 2020, 10:18 pm

WOOOOO

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x = 27, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
13bo$12bobo$4b2o15b2o$3bo2bo13bo2bo$4b2o6bobo6b2o$8b4obob4o$4b3ob2obo
bobob2ob3o$3bo6b2o3b2o6bo$3bo4bo2bo3bo2bo4bo$b2ob2o4bo5bo4b2ob2o$2bo2b
o2bob2o3b2obo2bo2bo$o2b2ob2o2bo5bo2b2ob2o2bo$2obo2b3o9b3o2bob2o$bobob
o3bo7bo3bobobo$bobo4b2o7b2o4bobo$2bobobo4bo3bo4bobobo$4bobob2o3bo3b2o
bobo$3bobo5b5o5bobo$3bobob2o9b2obobo$b2obobob2o2bobo2b2obobob2o$2bobo
bo2b2o5b2o2bobobo$2bobobo13bobobo$3bobo4b7o4bobo$5bo4b7o4bo$4bo4bobo3b
obo4bo$4b2ob4obobob4ob2o$6b2obo7bob2o$4b2o6bobo6b2o$4bo2bo3bo3bo3bo2b
o$5b2o3bo5bo3b2o$9bo7bo$3b4obo2b2ob2o2bob4o$2bo2bo6bobo6bo2bo$3bo3b5o
3b5o3bo$4b4o4b3o4b4o$8bo2bo3bo2bo$6b2o2bobobobo2b2o$5bo5b2ob2o5bo$5b4o
4bo4b4o$10b2obob2o$7bo2bobobobo2bo$7b4obobob4o$5b2o4bo3bo4b2o$4bo2bo3b
o3bo3bo2bo$4b2obo2bo5bo2bob2o$7bobobo3bobobo$7b2o9b2o$8bob2o3b2obo$6b
obo9bobo$5bobob2o2bo2b2obobo$5bobobo2b3o2bobobo$4b2obobobo3bobobob2o$
5bobobo2bobo2bobobo$4bo2bo2bobobobo2bo2bo$4bobob2obo3bob2obobo$5bobo4b
obo4bobo$7bob3o3b3obo$6bobo3b3o3bobo$6bo2b2o5b2o2bo$4b2obob2o5b2obob2o
$5bobo2bo2bo2bo2bobo$5bob3o7b3obo$6bo4b5o4bo$7b3obobobob3o$9bobobobob
o$10bo5bo$11b2ob2o$12bobo$12bobo$13bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 30th, 2020, 10:31 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:18 pm
WOOOOO
I tested whether or not it should support BFx1H.

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x = 27, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
12b3o$14bo$14bo$12b2o2$13bo$12bobo$4b2o15b2o$3bo2bo13bo2bo$4b2o6bobo6b2o$8b4obob4o$4b3ob2obobobob2ob3o$3bo6b2o3b2o6bo$3bo4bo2bo3bo2bo4bo$b2ob2o4bo5bo4b2ob2o$2bo2bo2bob2o3b2obo2bo2bo$o2b2ob2o2bo5bo2b2ob2o2bo$2obo2b3o9b3o2bob2o$bobobo3bo7bo3bobobo$bobo4b2o7b2o4bobo$2bobobo4bo3bo4bobobo$4bobob2o3bo3b2obobo$3bobo5b5o5bobo$3bobob2o9b2obobo$b2obobob2o2bobo2b2obobob2o$2bobobo2b2o5b2o2bobobo$2bobobo13bobobo$3bobo4b7o4bobo$5bo4b7o4bo$4bo4bobo3bobo4bo$4b2ob4obobob4ob2o$6b2obo7bob2o$4b2o6bobo6b2o$4bo2bo3bo3bo3bo2bo$5b2o3bo5bo3b2o$9bo7bo$3b4obo2b2ob2o2bob4o$2bo2bo6bobo6bo2bo$3bo3b5o3b5o3bo$4b4o4b3o4b4o$8bo2bo3bo2bo$6b2o2bobobobo2b2o$5bo5b2ob2o5bo$5b4o4bo4b4o$10b2obob2o$7bo2bobobobo2bo$7b4obobob4o$5b2o4bo3bo4b2o$4bo2bo3bo3bo3bo2bo$4b2obo2bo5bo2bob2o$7bobobo3bobobo$7b2o9b2o$8bob2o3b2obo$6bobo9bobo$5bobob2o2bo2b2obobo$5bobobo2b3o2bobobo$4b2obobobo3bobobob2o$5bobobo2bobo2bobobo$4bo2bo2bobobobo2bo2bo$4bobob2obo3bob2obobo$5bobo4bobo4bobo$7bob3o3b3obo$6bobo3b3o3bobo$6bo2b2o5b2o2bo$4b2obob2o5b2obob2o$5bobo2bo2bo2bo2bobo$5bob3o7b3obo$6bo4b5o4bo$7b3obobobob3o$9bobobobobo$10bo5bo$11b2ob2o$12bobo$12bobo$13bo!
The Herschel doesn't have enough time to get out of the way, but I saw a twin bee.
Marine has a non-centered Moore neighborhood and at least one elementary gun with a very high period (11,843).
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » October 30th, 2020, 10:33 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:31 pm
wwei23 wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:18 pm
WOOOOO
I tested whether or not it should support BFx1H.

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x = 27, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
12b3o$14bo$14bo$12b2o2$13bo$12bobo$4b2o15b2o$3bo2bo13bo2bo$4b2o6bobo6b2o$8b4obob4o$4b3ob2obobobob2ob3o$3bo6b2o3b2o6bo$3bo4bo2bo3bo2bo4bo$b2ob2o4bo5bo4b2ob2o$2bo2bo2bob2o3b2obo2bo2bo$o2b2ob2o2bo5bo2b2ob2o2bo$2obo2b3o9b3o2bob2o$bobobo3bo7bo3bobobo$bobo4b2o7b2o4bobo$2bobobo4bo3bo4bobobo$4bobob2o3bo3b2obobo$3bobo5b5o5bobo$3bobob2o9b2obobo$b2obobob2o2bobo2b2obobob2o$2bobobo2b2o5b2o2bobobo$2bobobo13bobobo$3bobo4b7o4bobo$5bo4b7o4bo$4bo4bobo3bobo4bo$4b2ob4obobob4ob2o$6b2obo7bob2o$4b2o6bobo6b2o$4bo2bo3bo3bo3bo2bo$5b2o3bo5bo3b2o$9bo7bo$3b4obo2b2ob2o2bob4o$2bo2bo6bobo6bo2bo$3bo3b5o3b5o3bo$4b4o4b3o4b4o$8bo2bo3bo2bo$6b2o2bobobobo2b2o$5bo5b2ob2o5bo$5b4o4bo4b4o$10b2obob2o$7bo2bobobobo2bo$7b4obobob4o$5b2o4bo3bo4b2o$4bo2bo3bo3bo3bo2bo$4b2obo2bo5bo2bob2o$7bobobo3bobobo$7b2o9b2o$8bob2o3b2obo$6bobo9bobo$5bobob2o2bo2b2obobo$5bobobo2b3o2bobobo$4b2obobobo3bobobob2o$5bobobo2bobo2bobobo$4bo2bo2bobobobo2bo2bo$4bobob2obo3bob2obobo$5bobo4bobo4bobo$7bob3o3b3obo$6bobo3b3o3bobo$6bo2b2o5b2o2bo$4b2obob2o5b2obob2o$5bobo2bo2bo2bo2bobo$5bob3o7b3obo$6bo4b5o4bo$7b3obobobob3o$9bobobobobo$10bo5bo$11b2ob2o$12bobo$12bobo$13bo!
The Herschel doesn't have enough time to get out of the way, but I saw a twin bee.
That's not a twin bee.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 30th, 2020, 10:35 pm

bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:33 pm
That's not a twin bee.
Are your sure? It turned into another twin bee and a pair of centuries when I isolated it.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » October 30th, 2020, 10:46 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:35 pm
bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:33 pm
That's not a twin bee.
Are your sure? It turned into another twin bee and a pair of centuries when I isolated it.
Which twin bee are you talking about?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by yujh » October 30th, 2020, 10:56 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:35 pm
bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:33 pm
That's not a twin bee.
Are your sure? It turned into another twin bee and a pair of centuries when I isolated it.
Nope, it isn’t queen bee.
(Do you mean this?
bobbbbbob
ooobbbooo
obooboobo)
B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k!!!
Mission: find a rule with 2-5ob,7-15d,3-5o ships and 4 sparky hp osc.
B2ikn35j6i/S23-a8
B2ck3ar4ac5e6c7/S1e2-an3ejnr4air5iy6c7c8
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 30th, 2020, 10:57 pm

bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:46 pm
Which twin bee are you talking about?
the one at generation 57 that formed from two bakery predecessors
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » October 30th, 2020, 11:03 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:57 pm
bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:46 pm
Which twin bee are you talking about?
the one at generation 57 that formed from two bakery predecessors
Good, so we're talking about the same one.
yujh wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:56 pm
Nope, it isn’t queen bee.
(Do you mean this?

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bobbbbbob$
ooobbbooo$
obooboobo!
)
Also, queen bee? What?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by yujh » October 30th, 2020, 11:08 pm

bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 11:03 pm
yujh wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:56 pm
Nope, it isn’t queen bee.
(Do you mean this?

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bobbbbbob$
ooobbbooo$
obooboobo!
)
Also, queen bee? What?
I don’t really know what you mean, but I think this is the one in that pattern.
B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k!!!
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B2ikn35j6i/S23-a8
B2ck3ar4ac5e6c7/S1e2-an3ejnr4air5iy6c7c8
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 30th, 2020, 11:10 pm

bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 11:03 pm
Good, so we're talking about the same one.
Is it not called a twin bee? I'm confused.
yujh wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 10:56 pm
(Do you mean this?
bobbbbbob
ooobbbooo
obooboobo)
They were actually B-heptaplets, not B-heptominoes, but otherwise, that's correct.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » October 30th, 2020, 11:15 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 11:10 pm
bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 11:03 pm
Good, so we're talking about the same one.
Is it not called a twin bee? I'm confused.
No, that one isn't a twin bee.

(Is there really no page on that? Fine: Twin bees shuttle)
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 30th, 2020, 11:23 pm

bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 11:15 pm
No, that one isn't a twin bee.

(Is there really no page on that? Fine: Twin bees shuttle)
Oh; you mean that the B-heptominoes have the opposite orientation. I think that that still counts as a twin bee because it turns into the standard twin bee.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » October 30th, 2020, 11:38 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 11:23 pm
bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 11:15 pm
No, that one isn't a twin bee.

(Is there really no page on that? Fine: Twin bees shuttle)
Oh; you mean that the B-heptominoes have the opposite orientation. I think that that still counts as a twin bee because it turns into the standard twin bee.
Oh.

Although

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$b3o!
isn't a honey farm and also the centuries destroy it before it can start doing the twin bees thing
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 30th, 2020, 11:46 pm

bubblegum wrote:
October 30th, 2020, 11:38 pm
Oh.

Although

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$b3o!
isn't a honey farm and also the centuries destroy it before it can start doing the twin bees thing
I'd argue that my pattern has more resemblance, but I see your point.
Also, speaking of that honey farm predecessor, it is apparently possible to get a snacker from R-bees.

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x = 106, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
80b2o$79bo2bo2bo$80b3obobo$84bobo$84b2o10$3b2o$2bo2bo97b2o$3b3o96bo2bo$103b3o$bo$obo98bo$obo97bobo$2o98bobo$100b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » November 2nd, 2020, 12:09 pm

Anyway to stabilise this p5?

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x = 16, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
15bo$5o6b4o$o6b2o$5bo4bo$5bo4bo$5bo4bo$6bo2bo$6bo2bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Jackk » November 2nd, 2020, 2:08 pm

JP21 wrote:
November 2nd, 2020, 12:09 pm
Anyway to stabilise this p5?

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x = 16, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
15bo$5o6b4o$o6b2o$5bo4bo$5bo4bo$5bo4bo$6bo2bo$6bo2bo!
Does this count?

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x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$bo4bo$bo4bo$bo4bo$2bo2bo$obo2bobo$2o4b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » November 2nd, 2020, 2:17 pm

Jackk wrote:
November 2nd, 2020, 2:08 pm
JP21 wrote:
November 2nd, 2020, 12:09 pm
Anyway to stabilise this p5?

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x = 16, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
15bo$5o6b4o$o6b2o$5bo4bo$5bo4bo$5bo4bo$6bo2bo$6bo2bo!
Does this count?

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x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$bo4bo$bo4bo$bo4bo$2bo2bo$obo2bobo$2o4b2o!
https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Fumarole
I'm assuming no.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » November 3rd, 2020, 6:49 pm

Is there an oscillator that makes the following spark?

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2obo!
I want to use it in this reaction.

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x = 11, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$7bo2bo$2o4bo2bo$2o4b3o!
#C [[ PASTET 47 PASTE o$o2$o! 1 8 ]]
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Extrementhusiast » November 4th, 2020, 6:27 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
November 3rd, 2020, 6:49 pm
Is there an oscillator that makes the following spark?

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RLE
I want to use it in this reaction.

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RLE
Although they use a different spark, P4 and P6 oscillators that suffice are in jslife:

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x = 36, y = 78, rule = B3/S23
11bo$4bo5bob2o$3bobo4bob2o$3bobo2b2o2bo3bo15b2o$2obobobo5b2o2bo13bo2bo
$obobob2ob2o2bo3bo6b2o4bo2bo$2bobo4b2o3b6o4b2o4b3o$bob2o2b2o6bo3bo$o2b
3obobo2bob3o3b2o$2o5bob2obo3bo$3b2o2b2obobob2ob3ob2o$4obobo2b2obobobo
6bo$o2bobobobo3bo4b3obo$bobo2bo2b2ob2o6b3o$2ob2obobo13bo3bo$bobo2bo2b
2ob2o6b3o$o2bobobobo3bo4b3obo$4obobo2b2obobobo6bo$3b2o2b2obobob2ob3ob
2o$2o5bob2obo3bo$o2b3obobo2bob3o3b2o$bob2o2b2o6bo3bo$2bobo4b2o3b6o$obo
bob2ob2o2bo3bo$2obobobo5b2o2bo$3bobo2b2o2bo3bo$3bobo4bob2o$4bo5bob2o$
11bo28$33b2o$14b2o2bo13bo2bo$14bo2bobo5b2o4bo2bo$15bobobo5b2o4b3o$14b
2obob2o$17bo$7b2o8b6o$6bo2bo5b2o3b5o$5bobobo4bo3bo6bo$5bobob2o3b5o$3b
2obo4bo11bo$3bo2bobob2o11bo3bo$2obo2b2o3bo11bo$o2b2obo2b2o3b5o$b2o2bob
obo4bo3bo6bo$3b5obo5b2o3b5o$3bo4bo8b6o$4b4o9bo$5bo8b2obob2o$3bo11bobob
o$3b2o9bo2bobo$14b2o2bo!
P5 didn't have any working examples, so I found something myself:

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x = 38, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
35b2o$34bo2bo$27b2o4bo2bo$27b2o4b3o$23b2o$22bo2bo$21bobobo$3bo6b2o2bo
2bo2bobo2b2o$2bobo4bob10obobo$bo2bo2b3o11bobob2o$bob2obo3b2o2bob3o2bob
o2b2o$2o2bob4o2bobo4bobobob2o$2bo3bo2b3o6bob2o3bo$2b2ob2obo2bob2o3bo2b
2o2b3o$2o4bob3o4b2obobo2bo2b2o$bob3o5b3o3b2ob4obo3bo$bobo6bo3b2o8b2ob
3o$2bo7b2o2bob3ob3o3bo$18bobo2b2o2bo$23bob2o!
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