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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: April 24th, 2021, 5:29 pm
by MathAndCode
hotdogPi wrote: ↑
April 24th, 2021, 5:09 pm
This really, really close p120.
There are at least four other methods of sparking it that work.

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x = 46, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
22b2o2$21b3o$20bo2bo$19bo$20bobo$21b2o2bo2$23b3o4b2o$29b3o$16b3o3bo6b
3o$16b2o3b3o2b2o$16b2o2b11o$15bobob2ob3o2b5o$8b3o2bo2bo2b3obo4bo$8b3o
b2obo3bo2bo6b2obo$9b2ob2obo2bo2bo9bob3o$12b3o3b3o11b4o$11b3o5bo8b2o5b
o$11b2o14b2ob3o8bo$6bobo3bo15bo2b3o6bobo2bo$8bo3b2o15bobob2o4bo3bobo$
2b2o4bo2b4o15bob4o3b2o2bo$2bo2b2o3b4obo15b4o2bo4b2o$obo3bo4b2obobo15b
2o3bo$3bobo6b3o2bo15bo3bobo$4bo8b3ob2o14b2o$10bo5b2o8bo5b3o$10b4o11b3o
3b3o$10b3obo9bo2bo2bob2ob2o$13bob2o6bo2bo3bob2ob3o$17bo4bob3o2bo2bo2b
3o$14b5o2b3ob2obobo$15b11o2b2o$18b2o2b3o3b2o$14b3o6bo3b3o$14b3o$14b2o
4b3o2$20bo2b2o$23bobo$26bo$22bo2bo$22b3o2$25bo!


Edit: Gliders work in at least four ways.

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x = 50, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
22bo$22bobo$22b2o2$23b3o$22bo2bo$21bo$22bobo$23b2o2bo2$25b3o4b2o$31b3o
$18b3o3bo6b3o$18b2o3b3o2b2o$18b2o2b11o$17bobob2ob3o2b5o$10b3o2bo2bo2b
3obo4bo$10b3ob2obo3bo2bo6b2obo$11b2ob2obo2bo2bo9bob3o$14b3o3b3o11b4o$
13b3o5bo8b2o5bo$13b2o14b2ob3o8bo4bo$8bobo3bo15bo2b3o6bobo2bo$10bo3b2o
15bobob2o4bo3bob3o$4b2o4bo2b4o15bob4o3b2o2bo$4bo2b2o3b4obo15b4o2bo4b2o
$2o2bo3bo4b2obobo15b2o3bo$b2o2bobo6b3o2bo15bo3bobo$o5bo8b3ob2o14b2o$12b
o5b2o8bo5b3o$12b4o11b3o3b3o$12b3obo9bo2bo2bob2ob2o$15bob2o6bo2bo3bob2o
b3o$19bo4bob3o2bo2bo2b3o$16b5o2b3ob2obobo$17b11o2b2o$20b2o2b3o3b2o$16b
3o6bo3b3o$16b3o$16b2o4b3o2$22bo2b2o$25bobo$28bo$24bo2bo$24b3o2$26bo$26b
2o$25bobo!


Another edit: I stabilized it using one of the alternative sparking methods.

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x = 86, y = 86, rule = B3/S23
37b2o$37b2o6$37b3o2$37bobo$36b5o$35b2o3b2o$35b2o3b2o2$47b2o$47b3o$37b
obo9b2obo5b2o$37bo6bo4bo2bo5b2o$43bo5b2obo$38bo4bo3b3o$40b2o5b2o2$41b
3o$40bo2bo$39bo$40bobo$16b2o23b2o2bo$16b2o$43b3o4b2o$49b3o$36b3o3bo6b
3o$36b2o3b3o2b2o$36b2o2b11o$16b3o16bobob2ob3o2b5o$28b3o2bo2bo2b3obo4b
o$16bobo9b3ob2obo3bo2bo6b2obo20b2o$15b5o9b2ob2obo2bo2bo9bob3o17b3o$14b
2o3b2o11b3o3b3o11b4o12b2o5b2obo5b2o$14b2o3b2o10b3o5bo8b2o5bo10bo8bo2b
o5b2o$31b2o14b2ob3o8bo7bo5b2obo$26bobo3bo15bo2b3o6bobo2bo7b3o$17bo10b
o3b2o15bobob2o4bo3bobo7b2o$18b2o2b2o4bo2b4o15bob4o3b2o2bo$22bo2b2o3b4o
bo15b4o2bo4b2o2b2o$11b2o7bobo3bo4b2obobo15b2o3bo10bo$10b3o7bo2bobo6b3o
2bo15bo3bobo$7bob2o5bo7bo8b3ob2o14b2o$2o5bo2bo8bo10bo5b2o8bo5b3o10b2o
3b2o$2o5bob2o5b2o12b4o11b3o3b3o11b2o3b2o$10b3o17b3obo9bo2bo2bob2ob2o9b
5o$11b2o20bob2o6bo2bo3bob2ob3o9bobo$37bo4bob3o2bo2bo2b3o$34b5o2b3ob2o
bobo16b3o$35b11o2b2o$38b2o2b3o3b2o$34b3o6bo3b3o$34b3o$34b2o4b3o$68b2o
$40bo2b2o23b2o$43bobo$46bo$42bo2bo$42b3o2$37b2o5b2o$36b3o3bo4bo$33bob
2o5bo$26b2o5bo2bo4bo6bo$26b2o5bob2o9bobo$36b3o$37b2o2$44b2o3b2o$44b2o
3b2o$45b5o$46bobo2$46b3o6$47b2o$47b2o!

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: April 24th, 2021, 6:07 pm
by hotdogPi
I think this is the fourth highest mod elementary active region after Karel's p177, the p144 on the previous page, and the p246 bookend shuttle (mod 123).

(Edited to mention p144 - I initially disqualified it due to the Herschel track but forgot that the central region is continuously active and not made of smaller components)

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: April 24th, 2021, 6:18 pm
by Sokwe
hotdogPi wrote: ↑
April 24th, 2021, 5:09 pm
 p88, mod 44:

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x = 36, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
16b2o2$17b3o$16bo3bo$20bo2$16bo3b2o$17b2o2bo$18b3o$19bo2bo$19bo$20bobo
$21bo$9bobo$6b2o4bo$3b2obobo2bo$2bo5b3o18bo2bo2bo$2bo4b2o19bo4bobo$obo
4bo19b2o4bo$o2bo2bo18b3o5bo$24bo2bobob2o$23bo4b2o$24bobo$14bo$13bobo$
16bo$13bo2bo$15b3o$14bo2b2o$14b2o3bo2$15bo$15bo3bo$16b3o2$18b2o!
This one is known and is the basis for this p88 gun:

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#C By Matthias Merzenich, September 2009
#C Blocker supports by Jason Summers
x = 46, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
14b2o14b2o$14b2o14b2o$30b2o$31bo$13b2obo13bobo$14bobo12b2obo$15bo$14b
2o$14b2o14b2o$14b2o14b2o4$4b2o35bo$4o4b2o26b3ob2o2b2o$3ob2o2b2o11b3o
12b4o4b2o$5bo14bo2bo16b2o$20bobo$21bo2$28b2o$27bo2bo$15b2o11bobo$15bob
o11b2o$15bo2bo$16b2o2$24bo$23bobo$4b2o16bo2bo14bo$2o4b4o12b3o11b2o2b2o
b3o$2o2b2ob3o26b2o4b4o$4bo35b2o3$14b2o2$13bo3bo12bo$12bo4bo11bobo$11bo
bobo6bo5bo3bo$10bobobo8b2o4bo3bo$8bo4bo8b2o6bo3bo$8bo3bo18bo3bo$32bobo
$10b2o21bo!
MathAndCode wrote: ↑
April 24th, 2021, 5:29 pm
 I stabilized it using one of the alternative sparking methods.
Nice work!

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: April 25th, 2021, 12:16 am
by wwei47
hotdogPi wrote: ↑
April 24th, 2021, 5:09 pm
 59
We have a P59 gun. Can that help?

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: April 26th, 2021, 11:34 am
by GUYTU6J
Scorbie wrote: ↑
January 23rd, 2015, 1:00 am
 2c/3 signal to a weak diagonal thumb...
EDIT: it can support [the two ponds and two block reaction]; maybe possible to find a p28 stabilization (or even some exotic periods)
The relevant LifeWiki article doesn't mention this p28 stabilization using a compact pre-pulsar shuttle:

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x = 58, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
36b2o$36b2o2$30bo3b6o$26b2obobo2bo4bo$26b2obobo4b2o4bo$29bob2o2b2ob5o$
29bo4bo$27b2ob4ob4o2b2o11b2o$25bo2bo6bo2bo2b2o3bo3bo3b2o$25b2obob2ob2o
11bo3bo$28bo2b3o12bo3bo$28b2o10bo15bo$39bobo13bobo$35b2o3bo15bo$36bo7b
3o3b3o$2b2o11b2o18bo9bo5bo$bo2bo2bo3bo2bo2bo5bo4bo6b2o$7bo3bo11b2o2b3o
$7bo3bo15b2o11bo15bo$o2bo11bo2bo20bobo13bobo$obo13bobo20bo2bo11bo2bo$b
o15bo11b2o15bo3bo$28b3o2b2o11bo3bo$21b2o6bo4bo5bo2bo2bo3bo2bo2bo$6bo5b
o9bo18b2o11b2o$5b3o3b3o7bo$bo15bo3b2o$obo13bobo$bo15bo10b2o$7bo3bo12b
3o2bo$7bo3bo11b2ob2obob2o$2b2o3bo3bo3b2o2bo2bo6bo2bo$2b2o11b2o2b4ob4ob
2o$23bo4bo$15b5ob2o2b2obo$15bo4b2o4bobob2o$18bo4bo2bobob2o$18b6o3bo2$
20b2o$20b2o!
Still, where is a p34 or true-period p47 grin source that can connect to this thumb catalyst?

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: April 26th, 2021, 7:04 pm
by Sokwe
GUYTU6J wrote: ↑
April 26th, 2021, 11:34 am
Scorbie wrote: ↑
January 23rd, 2015, 1:00 am
 2c/3 signal to a weak diagonal thumb...
EDIT: it can support [the two ponds and two block reaction]; maybe possible to find a p28 stabilization (or even some exotic periods)
The relevant LifeWiki article doesn't mention this p28 stabilization using a compact pre-pulsar shuttle:
The block and pond reaction is mostly interesting when it is used to multiply the period of some lower-period sparker. p14 supports for the p28 oscillator were found previously, first using a p14 bi-block hassler, then using the 34P14 shuttle. There are also p10 supports for the p20 oscillator. I don't know of any p11-to-p22 examples, and p17-to-p34 and p19-to-p38 obviously haven't been found.

Also, I moved your post to the oscillator discussion thread.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 28th, 2021, 7:23 am
by GUYTU6J
EvinZL wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2021, 2:02 pm
 I found a new? periodic reflector mechanism...
Do we have more edgeshooting H-to-pond factories? At least one from here works:

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x = 74, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o3$55bo$55b3o$58bo$57b2o2$60b2o$59bobo$59b2o2$49b2o$50bo$50bob
o$51b2o2$43b2o$21bo22bo$22bo21bobo20bo$20b3o11bo10b2o19b3o$32b3o31b2o
3b2o$31bo37bo2bo$31b2o$16b2o51bo2bo$17bo52bo2bo$17bob2o50bobo$18bo2bo
50bo$19b2o$34b2o35b2o$34b2o35b2o2$60b2o$54b2o4bobo$43bo3b2o6bo6bo$42bo
bo3bo3b3o7b2o$41bobo3bo4bo$37b2obobo3bo$37b2obo2b4obo$41bobo3bobo$37b
2ob2o2bo2bobo$38bobo2b2o3bo$26b2o10bobo$26b2o11bo!
The dot spark should appear at period ≥ 7.

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: April 29th, 2021, 8:57 am
by hotdogPi
I'm mostly done with my C2/C4/D4 program, since I seem to have done all the common patterns. (I thought I was done before until I realized that my C4 program only did odd symmetry. I've done even symmetry now.)

For some reason, I thought this was a p69 partial. It turns out to be p70, and I've completed it!

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x = 64, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
33b2o3b2o$32bo2bobo2bo$32bo2bobo2bo2$29b2o4bobo4b2o$29bo2bob2ob2obo2bo
$30bob2o5b2obo$31bo9bo$32b9o$34bobobo2$25b2o9bo$25b2o9bo8$4b2o$4bobo
25bo$7bo23b3o$b2o2b2obo22bo2bo$o5bobo24b2o$o4bo2b2o41b2o$b2ob2o2bo42b
2o$8b2ob2o$b2ob2o2bo$o4bo2b2o13b2o33b2o$o5bobo13bobo32bobo$b2o2b2obo
12b2o17b2o14bo$7bo14b2o17b2o12bob2o2b2o$4bobo32bobo13bobo5bo$4b2o33b2o
13b2o2bo4bo$55bo2b2ob2o$51b2ob2o$11b2o42bo2b2ob2o$11b2o41b2o2bo4bo$29b
2o24bobo5bo$29bo2bo22bob2o2b2o$30b3o23bo$31bo25bobo$58b2o8$27bo9b2o$
27bo9b2o2$25bobobo$23b9o$22bo9bo$21bob2o5b2obo$20bo2bob2ob2obo2bo$20b
2o4bobo4b2o2$23bo2bobo2bo$23bo2bobo2bo$24b2o3b2o!
Reduction (by population) by GUYTU6J:

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x = 64, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
23b2o$18b2o3bobo6bo$18b2o3bo2bo4b2o$24bo3bo$26bobo2$26bobo$24bo3bo$18b
2o3bo2bo4b2o$18b2o3bobo6bo$23b2o$37b2o$37b2o6$54b2o5b2o$54b2o5b2o2$31b
o$30b3o$29bo2bo20b3o5b3o$29b2o22bo2bo3bo2bo$11b2o41bo7bo$11b2o42bobobo
bo2$56b2ob2o$39b2o$39bobo$b2o5b2o12b2o17b2o12bo5bo$2bo5bo12b2o17b2o12b
2o5b2o$22bobo$23b2o$3b2ob2o2$2bobobobo42b2o$bo7bo41b2o$o2bo3bo2bo22b2o
$3o5b3o20bo2bo$31b3o$32bo2$b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o6$25b2o$25b2o$39b2o$31bo6bob
o3b2o$31b2o4bo2bo3b2o$35bo3bo$35bobo2$35bobo$35bo3bo$31b2o4bo2bo3b2o$
31bo6bobo3b2o$39b2o!
Here's a partial that has options for multiple periods. The loaves flip at 87+ (total period 174+), or you can spark them one generation early at 86 (period 172)... provided the sparker also deletes the extraneous loaves.

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x = 34, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
12b2o2$10b2o$9bobo$9b3o2$15b2o2$13bo$13bo5bo9b2o$13b2o5b3o6bobo$10b3o
8b2o6b3o$10b3o6bob2o10bo$10bo5bo2bo3b3o7bo$9bo2b3o4bo3bo$27bo$20bo6bo$
6bo6bo$6bo$10bo3bo4b3o2bo$o7b3o3bo2bo5bo$o10b2obo6b3o$2b3o6b2o8b3o$2bo
bo6b3o5b2o$3b2o9bo5bo$20bo2$17b2o2$22b3o$22bobo$22b2o2$20b2o!

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 1st, 2021, 11:36 pm
by bibunsekibun
P168 Potential

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x = 71, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
46b2o$42b2o2bo$36b2o3bo2bobo$37bo2bob3ob2o$35bo2b3obobobo$34bob2o10bo
3b2o$30b2obobo2b4obob3obo2bobob2o$30b2obo3bo3b2ob2o3bo4bob2o$34bo3b3ob
3ob3o4bo$30b3o2bo4bo5bo5bo2b3o$30bo3b2o16b2o3bo$31b2obob2o3bo3bo4b2obo
b2o$32bobo8bo9bobo$6b2ob2o4b2o15bo2b2obo10bob2o2bo$6b2obobo2bobo14b2o
3b2obo3b2o3bob2o3b2o$9bob4o15bo2b3o7b2o7b3o2bo$6b2o7bo14b2o3bo3bobo4bo
bo3bo3b2o$5bo2bob3o2bo25b6o$5b2o2b2o2bob2o24b6o$11bob2o27b4o$11bo2bo$
6b2o5bo$5bo2bo5bobo$o2bo2bobo$5obob2o6b3o$6b2o3bo5b3o$2b3o2b2o5b2ob3o$
bobo2bobo3bob2ob3o$bob2o2b2o8b3o$2bo3b2o3bo4b3o$3b2obob2o44b2o4b2ob2o$
4bobobo5bobo37bobo2bobob2o$4bobobo4bo42b4obo$2b2obobo3bo2bo40bo7b2o$2b
o2bo5bob2o40bo2b3obo2bo$4bobo2b2o2bob2o37b2obo2b2o2bobo$5bo2bob3o2bo
40b2obo5bo2bo$6b2o7bo40bo2bo3bobob2o$9bob4o42bo4bobobo$6b2obobo2bobo
37bobo5bobobo$6b2ob2o4b2o44b2obob2o$24b2ob2o23b3o4bo3b2o3bo$24bo3bo22b
3o8b2o2b2obo$25b3o23b3ob2obo3bobo2bobo$51b3ob2o5b2o2b3o$51b3o5bo3b2o$
52b3o6b2obob5o$62bobo2bo2bo$54bobo5bo2bo$57bo5b2o$56bo2bo$25b4o27b2obo
$24b6o24b2obo2b2o2b2o$24b6o25bo2b3obo2bo$13b2o3bo3bobo4bobo3bo3b2o14bo
7b2o$13bo2b3o7b2o7b3o2bo15b4obo$14b2o3b2obo3b2o3bob2o3b2o14bobo2bobob
2o$15bo2b2obo10bob2o2bo15b2o4b2ob2o$15bobo9bo8bobo$14b2obob2o4bo3bo3b
2obob2o$13bo3b2o16b2o3bo$13b3o2bo5bo5bo4bo2b3o$17bo4b3ob3ob3o3bo$13b2o
bo4bo3b2ob2o3bo3bob2o$13b2obobo2bob3obob4o2bobob2o$17b2o3bo10b2obo$24b
obobob3o2bo$23b2ob3obo2bo$24bobo2bo3b2o$24bo2b2o$23b2o!

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 1st, 2021, 11:44 pm
by JP21
bibunsekibun wrote: ↑
May 1st, 2021, 11:36 pm
 P168 Potential

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rle
It's in jslife.

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x = 90, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
47bo$49bo$2o5b2obo6b2obo23bo4bo$bo5bob2o6bob2o22bo5b2o$o4b2o8b2o4b2o
27bo$2o3bo9bo5bo25b4o$6bo9bo5bo18bo4bo4b3o$2o3b2o8b2o4b2o23bob2obob3o$
bo5b2obo6b2obo21b3obob2obo$o6bob2o6bob2o23b3o4bo4bo10b2o$2o3b2o4b2o2b
2o4b2o24b4o16b2o$5bo5bo3bo5bo25bo$2o4bo5bo3bo5bo24b2o5bo$bo3b2o4b2o2b
2o4b2o25bo4bo$o6b2obo6b2obo27bo32bo$2o5bob2o6bob2o29bo29b3o$79bo3b2o$
78b2o2b3o$77bobo$76b3ob4o2b2o$75bo3bo4bob2o$36b2o11bo24b2o3bob2obobobo
$36b2o10bobo24bobobob2obo3b2o$47bo3bo24b2obo4bo3bo$47bo3bo24b2o2b4ob3o
$47b2ob2o32bobo$79b3o2b2o$79b2o3bo$81b3o$82bo4$34bo$33b3o$32bo3b2o$31b
2o2b3o$30bobo$29b3ob4o2b2o$28bo3bo4bob2o$27b2o3bob2obobobo37b2o$28bobo
bob2obo3b2o36b2o$29b2obo4bo3bo$29b2o2b4ob3o$37bobo$32b3o2b2o$32b2o3bo$
34b3o29bo$35bo32bo$63bo4bo$62bo5b2o$69bo$48b2o16b4o$48b2o10bo4bo4b3o$
65bob2obob3o$61b3obob2obo$63b3o4bo4bo$66b4o$66bo$66b2o5bo$67bo4bo$67bo
$69bo!
Edit: It's also in wiki: Pi orbital

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 1st, 2021, 11:47 pm
by bibunsekibun
JP21 wrote: ↑
May 1st, 2021, 11:44 pm
bibunsekibun wrote: ↑
May 1st, 2021, 11:36 pm
 P168 Potential

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rle
It's in jslife.

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rle
*Sigh*

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 2nd, 2021, 1:24 am
by JP21
Boring p10 wick stabilization:

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x = 66, y = 89, rule = B3/S23
57bo3b2o$56bobo2bo$57b2o3bo$59b3obo$57b2o4bo$56bo2bob2o$57bobo3b3o$54b
3o3b3o2bo$53bo3b3o3bo$54b3o4b2o$56bob3o$57b2o2b2o$61bobo$53b2o7bo$54bo
bo$55bobo$51bo4bo$50bobo$51bobo$53b2o2$47b2o$48bobo$49bobo$45bo4bo$44b
obo$45bobo$47b2o2$41b2o$42bobo$43bobo$39bo4bo$38bobo$39bobo$41b2o2$35b
2o$36bobo$37bobo$33bo4bo$32bobo$33bobo$35b2o2$29b2o$30bobo$31bobo$27bo
4bo$26bobo$27bobo$29b2o2$23b2o$24bobo$25bobo$21bo4bo$20bobo$21bobo$23b
2o2$17b2o$18bobo$19bobo$15bo4bo$14bobo$15bobo$17b2o2$11b2o$12bobo$13bo
bo$9bo4bo$8bobo$9bobo$3bo7b2o$2bobo$3b2o2b2o$5b3obo$3b2o4b3o$2bo3b3o3b
o$o2b3o3b3o$3o3bobo$3b2obo2bo$2bo4b2o$2bob3o$3bo3b2o$4bo2bobo$3b2o3bo!
[EDIT] Extra large solutions:

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x = 89, y = 100, rule = B3/S23
66bo15bo$66b3o11b3o$69bo9bo$68b2o9b2o2$72bo3bo$60b2o10b2ob2o10b2o$61bo
25bo$61bobo9bobo9bobo$62b2o8b2ob2o8b2o$72b2ob2o$72bo3bo$65b2o2b3o5b3o
2b2o$66bob3o7b3obo2$66bob3o7b3obo$65b2o2b3o5b3o2b2o$72bo3bo$72b2ob2o$
62b2o8b2ob2o8b2o$61bobo9bobo9bobo$61bo25bo$60b2o10b2ob2o10b2o$72bo3bo
2$66b2o11b2o$67bobo9bo$68bobo9b3o$64bo4bo12bo$63bobo$64bobo$66b2o2$60b
2o$61bobo$62bobo$58bo4bo$57bobo$58bobo$60b2o2$54b2o$55bobo$56bobo$52bo
4bo$51bobo$52bobo$54b2o2$48b2o$49bobo$50bobo$46bo4bo$45bobo$46bobo$48b
2o2$42b2o$43bobo$44bobo$40bo4bo$39bobo$40bobo$42b2o2$36b2o$37bobo$38bo
bo$34bo4bo$33bobo$34bobo$36b2o2$30b2o$31bobo$32bobo$28bo4bo$27bobo$28b
obo$30b2o2$24b2o$25bobo$26bobo$22bo4bo$10b2o9bobo$5b2o2bo2bo9bobo$3b3o
4b2o12b2o$2bo4bo4b3o$3b3ob5o2bo5b2o$5bo5bo7bobo$6b4o9b2obo$8b2o3b2o6bo
$2b2o9b4o$bobo7bo5bo$bo6bo2b5ob3o$2o6b3o4bo4bo$11b2o4b3o$10bo2bo2b2o$
11b2o!

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 2nd, 2021, 4:13 am
by praosylen
JP21 wrote: ↑
May 2nd, 2021, 1:24 am
 Boring p10 wick stabilization:

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rle
Nice, that's smaller than my stabilization! That's a really nontrivial little catalyst-y reaction.

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 2nd, 2021, 1:16 pm
by MathAndCode
JP21 wrote: ↑
May 2nd, 2021, 1:24 am
[EDIT] Extra large solutions
Ponds can also be interspersed in the middle of the wick.

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x = 113, y = 118, rule = B3/S23
90bo15bo$90b3o11b3o$93bo9bo$92b2o9b2o2$96bo3bo$84b2o10b2ob2o10b2o$85b
o25bo$85bobo9bobo9bobo$86b2o8b2ob2o8b2o$96b2ob2o$96bo3bo$89b2o2b3o5b3o
2b2o$90bob3o7b3obo2$90bob3o7b3obo$89b2o2b3o5b3o2b2o$96bo3bo$96b2ob2o$
86b2o8b2ob2o8b2o$85bobo9bobo9bobo$85bo25bo$84b2o10b2ob2o10b2o$96bo3bo
2$90b2o11b2o$91bobo9bo$92bobo9b3o$88bo4bo12bo$87bobo$88bobo$90b2o2$84b
2o$85bobo$86bobo$82bo4bo$81bobo$82bobo$84b2o2$78b2o$79bobo$80bobo$76b
o4bo$75bobo$76bobo$78b2o2$72b2o$73bobo$74bobo$70bo4bo$69bobo$70bobo$72b
2o2$66b2o$67bobo$68bobo$64bo4bo$63bobo$64bobo$66b2o2$60b2o$61bobo$62b
obo$58bo4bo$57bobo$58bobo$60b2o2$54b2o$55bobo$56bobo$57bo$53b2o$52bo2b
o$48bo3bo2bo$48b2o3b2o$50bo$44bo4bobo$43bobo4bo$44bo$40bo4b2o$40b2o4b
o$42bo$36bo4bobo$35bobo4bo$36bo$32bo4b2o$32b2o4bo$34bo$28bo4bobo$27bo
b2o3bo$28bobo$28b2o2$24b2o$25bobo$26bobo$22bo4bo$10b2o9bobo$5b2o2bo2b
o9bobo$3b3o4b2o12b2o$2bo4bo4b3o$3b3ob5o2bo5b2o$5bo5bo7bobo$6b4o9b2obo
$8b2o3b2o6bo$2b2o9b4o$bobo7bo5bo$bo6bo2b5ob3o$2o6b3o4bo4bo$11b2o4b3o$
10bo2bo2b2o$11b2o!
There's a fair chance that that's already known, though.

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 2nd, 2021, 1:54 pm
by wwei47
MathAndCode wrote: ↑
May 2nd, 2021, 1:16 pm
 Ponds can also be interspersed in the middle of the wick.
This means that even without a fencepost, we can still stabilize this wick in a loop.

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x = 102, y = 102, rule = B3/S23
42b2o$43bo$41bo11b2o$41b2o5bo4bo$44b2obobo5bo$39b5obobobo4b2o$38bo8bob
ob2o$39b3ob2ob2obobob5o$41b2o6bo8bo$49b2ob2ob3o$54b2o4$50b2o$49bo2bo$
45bo3bo2bo3bo$44bobo3b2o3bobo$45bobo6bobo$41b2o3b2o6b2o3b2o$41b2o3b2o
6b2o3b2o$41bobo14bobo$37bo4bobo12bobo4bo$36bobo4bo14bo4bobo$37bobo22bo
bo$33b2o3b2o22b2o3b2o$33b2o3b2o22b2o3b2o$33bobo30bobo$29b2o3bobo28bobo
3b2o$28bo2bo3bo30bo3bo2bo$28bo2bo38bo2bo$29b2o40b2o2$25b3o46b3o$25b2ob
o44bob2o$27bobo42bobo$23bo4bo44bo4bo$22bobo52bobo$23bob2o48b2obo16bo$
24b3o48b3o16bobo$94bobo$19b3o58b3o10b2obob2o$19b2obo56bob2o10bo2bobo2b
o$8bo12bobo54bobo13bobo3b2o$7bobo7bo4bo56bo4bo9bo2bo$7bobo6bobo64bobo
10b2o$4b2obob2o6bob2o60b2obo9bo$2bo2bobo2bo7b3o60b3o10b4o$2b2o3bobo88b
o$6bo2bo5b2o68b2o5b6o$6b2o6bo2bo66bo2bo4bo$9bo4bo2bo66bo2bo6b2o$4b6o5b
2o68b2o5bo2bo$3bo88bobo3b2o$4b4o10b3o60b3o7bo2bobo2bo$7bo9bob2o60b2obo
6b2obob2o$4b2o10bobo64bobo6bobo$4bo2bo9bo4bo56bo4bo7bobo$2o3bobo13bobo
54bobo12bo$o2bobo2bo10b2obo56bob2o$2b2obob2o10b3o58b3o$5bobo$5bobo16b
3o48b3o$6bo16bob2o48b2obo$22bobo52bobo$23bo4bo44bo4bo$27bobo42bobo$25b
2obo44bob2o$25b3o46b3o2$29b2o40b2o$28bo2bo38bo2bo$28bo2bo3bo30bo3bo2bo
$29b2o3bobo28bobo3b2o$33bobo30bobo$33b2o3b2o22b2o3b2o$33b2o3b2o22b2o3b
2o$37bobo22bobo$36bobo4bo14bo4bobo$37bo4bobo12bobo4bo$41bobo14bobo$41b
2o3b2o6b2o3b2o$41b2o3b2o6b2o3b2o$45bobo6bobo$44bobo3b2o3bobo$45bo3bo2b
o3bo$49bo2bo$50b2o4$46b2o$44b3ob2ob2o$43bo8bo6b2o$44b5obobob2ob2ob3o$
49b2obobo8bo$46b2o4bobobob5o$46bo5bobob2o$48bo4bo5b2o$47b2o11bo$58bo$
58b2o!

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 5th, 2021, 10:33 am
by hotdogPi
I searched my program for the 10-cell pattern that C28 found... complete P217

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x = 82, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
46b2o$43bo6bo$42bo8bo$45b4o$42b3o4b3o$35b2o6b2ob2ob2o6b2o$35b2o7b6o7b
2o$45b4o6$45b4o$35b2o7b6o7b2o$35b2o6b2ob2ob2o6b2o$42b3o4b3o$45b4o$42bo
8bo$43bo6bo$46b2o2$45b3o$5b2o7b2o16b2o10bo3bo$5b2o7b2o16b2o10bo3bo$45b
3o3$44b3o$47b4o$2bobo11bobo15b2o13b2o$bo2b2o9b2o2bo9b3ob2obo8bo4bo$4b
3o7b3o12b2obo3bo12bo7b2o$3bo2b2o5b2o2bo5b2o4bo6bo9bo3bo6b2o$o2bob3o5b
3obo2bobo2bo3bo5bo14b2o$o2bob3o5b3obo2bobo2bo2bo4bo13bo3bo14b2o7b2o$3b
o2b2o5b2o2bo4bo2bo2bo2bo16b3o15b2o7b2o$4b3o7b3o6b2o3bo$bo2b2o9b2o2bo$
2bobo11bobo3$63bobo11bobo$62bo2b2o9b2o2bo$53bo3b2o6b3o7b3o$5b2o7b2o15b
3o16bo2bo2bo2bo4bo2b2o5b2o2bo$5b2o7b2o14bo3bo13bo4bo2bo2bobo2bob3o5b3o
bo2bo$30b2o14bo5bo3bo2bobo2bob3o5b3obo2bo$23b2o6bo3bo9bo6bo4b2o5bo2b2o
5b2o2bo$23b2o7bo12bo3bob2o12b3o7b3o$31bo4bo8bob2ob3o9bo2b2o9b2o2bo$31b
2o13b2o15bobo11bobo$31b4o$35b3o3$34b3o$33bo3bo10b2o16b2o7b2o$33bo3bo
10b2o16b2o7b2o$34b3o2$34b2o$31bo6bo$30bo8bo$33b4o$30b3o4b3o$23b2o6b2ob
2ob2o6b2o$23b2o7b6o7b2o$33b4o6$33b4o$23b2o7b6o7b2o$23b2o6b2ob2ob2o6b2o
$30b3o4b3o$33b4o$30bo8bo$31bo6bo$34b2o!

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 5th, 2021, 1:44 pm
by C28
hotdogPi wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2021, 10:33 am
 I searched my program for the 10-cell pattern that C28 found... complete P217

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x = 82, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
46b2o$43bo6bo$42bo8bo$45b4o$42b3o4b3o$35b2o6b2ob2ob2o6b2o$35b2o7b6o7b
2o$45b4o6$45b4o$35b2o7b6o7b2o$35b2o6b2ob2ob2o6b2o$42b3o4b3o$45b4o$42bo
8bo$43bo6bo$46b2o2$45b3o$5b2o7b2o16b2o10bo3bo$5b2o7b2o16b2o10bo3bo$45b
3o3$44b3o$47b4o$2bobo11bobo15b2o13b2o$bo2b2o9b2o2bo9b3ob2obo8bo4bo$4b
3o7b3o12b2obo3bo12bo7b2o$3bo2b2o5b2o2bo5b2o4bo6bo9bo3bo6b2o$o2bob3o5b
3obo2bobo2bo3bo5bo14b2o$o2bob3o5b3obo2bobo2bo2bo4bo13bo3bo14b2o7b2o$3b
o2b2o5b2o2bo4bo2bo2bo2bo16b3o15b2o7b2o$4b3o7b3o6b2o3bo$bo2b2o9b2o2bo$
2bobo11bobo3$63bobo11bobo$62bo2b2o9b2o2bo$53bo3b2o6b3o7b3o$5b2o7b2o15b
3o16bo2bo2bo2bo4bo2b2o5b2o2bo$5b2o7b2o14bo3bo13bo4bo2bo2bobo2bob3o5b3o
bo2bo$30b2o14bo5bo3bo2bobo2bob3o5b3obo2bo$23b2o6bo3bo9bo6bo4b2o5bo2b2o
5b2o2bo$23b2o7bo12bo3bob2o12b3o7b3o$31bo4bo8bob2ob3o9bo2b2o9b2o2bo$31b
2o13b2o15bobo11bobo$31b4o$35b3o3$34b3o$33bo3bo10b2o16b2o7b2o$33bo3bo
10b2o16b2o7b2o$34b3o2$34b2o$31bo6bo$30bo8bo$33b4o$30b3o4b3o$23b2o6b2ob
2ob2o6b2o$23b2o7b6o7b2o$33b4o6$33b4o$23b2o7b6o7b2o$23b2o6b2ob2ob2o6b2o
$30b3o4b3o$33b4o$30bo8bo$31bo6bo$34b2o!
nice

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 5th, 2021, 2:16 pm
by MathAndCode
hotdogPi wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2021, 10:33 am
 I searched my program for the 10-cell pattern that C28 found... complete P217
Does that mean that the pattern gets a name now? I propose that we call your oscillator the p217 quadruple U-turner hassler.

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 5th, 2021, 2:19 pm
by hotdogPi
That's quite a long name. I don't think "quadruple" is necessary unless someone finds a monomer or dimer like what happened with my p76 pi hassler.

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 5th, 2021, 3:04 pm
by MathAndCode
hotdogPi wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2021, 2:19 pm
 That's quite a long name. I don't think "quadruple" is necessary unless someone finds a monomer or dimer like what happened with my p76 pi hassler.
It can simply be called the p217 U-turner hassler if you want—or in fact anything else that you want. I just felt that the felt that U-turner is singular could be misleading.

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 5th, 2021, 3:13 pm
by hotdogPi
I think Raucci's p217 is fine, given many others named for their discoverers (15, 28, 31, 37, 40, 51, 138, 144, 177, and several others). I don't want to use my first name because there are at least three Davids in this community.

(edited to fix typo)

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 6th, 2021, 4:49 am
by gameoflifemaniac
This phase has a minimal population of 236:

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x = 74, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
38b2obo2bob2o$31b2o4bo2bo4bo2bo4b2o$31b2o5bobo4bobo5b2o$39bo6bo6$39bo
6bo$31b2o5bobo4bobo5b2o$31b2o4bo2bo4bo2bo4b2o$38b2obo2bob2o7$b2o7b2o$b
2o7b2o4$27b2o$bo9bo14bo2bo$obo7bobo14bo2bo17bo$o2bo5bo2bo14bo2bo15b2ob
o$b2o7b2o16b3o14bo3bo$o11bo32bo2bo$45b3o$62b2o7b2o$o11bo49b2o7b2o$b2o
7b2o$o2bo5bo2bo$obo7bobo$bo9bo$62bo9bo$61bobo7bobo$61bo2bo5bo2bo$62b2o
7b2o$b2o7b2o49bo11bo$b2o7b2o$26b3o$25bo2bo32bo11bo$24bo3bo14b3o16b2o7b
2o$24bob2o15bo2bo14bo2bo5bo2bo$25bo17bo2bo14bobo7bobo$44bo2bo14bo9bo$
45b2o4$62b2o7b2o$62b2o7b2o7$26b2obo2bob2o$19b2o4bo2bo4bo2bo4b2o$19b2o
5bobo4bobo5b2o$27bo6bo6$27bo6bo$19b2o5bobo4bobo5b2o$19b2o4bo2bo4bo2bo
4b2o$26b2obo2bob2o!
It's not the smallest p217, a Snark loop would be even smaller. This one is much more interesting though

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 6th, 2021, 8:07 am
by C28
MathAndCode wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2021, 3:04 pm
hotdogPi wrote: ↑
May 5th, 2021, 2:19 pm
 That's quite a long name. I don't think "quadruple" is necessary unless someone finds a monomer or dimer like what happened with my p76 pi hassler.
It can simply be called the p217 U-turner hassler if you want—or in fact anything else that you want. I just felt that the felt that U-turner is singular could be misleading.
yeah that'll work.

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 6th, 2021, 11:50 am
by bubblegum
I think we should probably decide on an official name for the object first. "U-turner" always makes me think of something turning a "U".

Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Posted: May 6th, 2021, 12:14 pm
by dvgrn
bubblegum wrote: ↑
May 6th, 2021, 11:50 am
 I think we should probably decide on an official name for the object first. "U-turner" always makes me think of something turning a "U".
If we follow the usual guidelines, the discoverer gets to name the discovery. That happened a while ago, and the name is Raucci's p217. Not sure everybody noticed that.
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