## Oscillator Discussion Thread

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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Yes! Name it um what about um Pi fountain? Pi remaker? Pi chef (eaters)?
Also, a p690 osc

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x = 26, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$9bo4bo$8bo6bo$7bo8bo$7bo8bo$7bo8bo$8bo6bo$9bo4bo$11b2o2$13bo$13b
o5$13bo$13bo3$14bo$3b2o8bobo$3b2o7b2ob2o5bob2o$22b2obo2$2b2o$3bo$3o$o
13bo$13bobobob2o$12bob2ob2obo$12bo$11b2o!

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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!  (Check gen 2) Gamedziner Posts: 796 Joined: May 30th, 2016, 8:47 pm Location: Milky Way Galaxy: Planet Earth ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread How about Phircle? (The "phi" part references the phi spark, and the "-ircle" part references a circle, or 2π radians; the pi heptomino appears twice in the oscillator's period.) Code: Select all x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory 58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.
A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A
$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!


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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

I've written it up as Tanner's p46 for now -- since Tanner discovered it, I think he should have the honor of naming it. The wiki article can be moved as appropriate.
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Apple Bottom wrote:I've written it up as Tanner's p46 for now -- since Tanner discovered it, I think he should have the honor of naming it. The wiki article can be moved as appropriate.
Horray! The second pattern discovered this year that gets it's own wiki page!
We need more patterns!! Kazyan, how was this found?
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
13bobobob2o$12bob2ob2obo$12bo$11b2o!  Not really that interesting, honestly. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce Extrementhusiast Posts: 1817 Joined: June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm Location: USA ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Oh god, this generates more possibilities! (Since I'm the type of type of guy who has to look at every possibility, you can imagine how my sanity must feel.) EDIT: Changing the other snake to an eater as well results in a slightly more tucked-in form: Code: Select all x = 25, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 14bo$3b2o7b2ob2o$3b2o7b2ob2o$21b2o$21bobo$2b2o19bo$3bo19b2o$3o16b2o$o 13bo4bo$13bobobobo$12bob2ob2o$12bo$11b2o!  I Like My Heisenburps! (and others) M. I. Wright Posts: 372 Joined: June 13th, 2015, 12:04 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread I believe it's possible that a gun might exist along these lines, with one osc's phi spark replacing the right-hand catalyst of the other: Code: Select all x = 25, y = 42, rule = B3/S23 17b2o$17bo$15bobo$11b2o2b2o$11b2o7$22bo$10b3o7b3o$9bo2bo6bo$8bo9bobo$
9bo2bo6b2o$10b3o$19b2o$20bo$19bo$19b2o4$9b3o$10bo3$10b6ob2o$9b2obob2ob 2o$14bo2b2ob2o$11b2obo3b2obo$2b2o8bo2b2ob3o$bobo8b2ob2o2b3o$bo19b2o$2o 19bo$22b3o$10bo13bo$4b2obobobo$4bob2ob2obo$12bo$12b2o! Gencols did not give me anything -- but gencols historically hasn't played nice with me (and/or I just haven't figured out how to use it) so I'm not sure I can trust my result. Could anyone else check? As a side note, there are also plenty of non-gun oscillators following this setup, including the following. Code: Select all x = 25, y = 41, rule = B3/S23 18b2o$18bo$16bobo$12b2o2b2o$12b2o3$11b3o$10bo2bo$10b2o2b2o$10bo2bobo$
13bobo7bo$21b3o$7bo3bo2bo5bo$7b2o2bo7bobo$7bo3bo2bo5b2o2$10bo4bo4b2o$
9bo5bo5bo$10bo9bo$14bo5b2o$13bo8$20b2o$11bo8b2o$2b2o6b2o$bobo5bo$bo8b
2o9b2o$2o9bo9bo$22b3o$10bo13bo$4b2obobobo$4bob2ob2obo$12bo$12b2o10$
35b2o$11b2o22bo$12bo20bobo$12bob2ob2obo8b2o2b2o$13bobobob2o8b2o$o13bo$
3o$3bo$2b2o$9b3o5b2o$9bo3bobo4bo$3b2o2b2ob2o9bo18bo$3b2o2bo30b3o$7bobo 3b3o14b2ob2o2bo$8b3o6bobo11bobo2bobo$18bo13bo4b2o$14bo$13b3o21b2o$38bo
$37bo$37b2o$3b2o$4bo$3bo$3b2o21b3o$27bo$3b2o4bo13bo$3bobo2bobo11bobo6b 3o$4bo2b2ob2o14b3o3bobo$b3o30bo2b2o$bo18bo9b2ob2o2b2o$21bo4bobo3bo$23b
2o5b3o$38b2o$38bo$39b3o$27bo13bo$11b2o8b2obobobo$7b2o2b2o8bob2ob2obo$6bobo20bo$6bo22b2o$5b2o! Last edited by M. I. Wright on October 21st, 2017, 9:03 pm, edited 2 times in total. gamer54657 wrote:God save us all. God save humanity. hgkhjfgh nutshelltlifeDiscord 'Conwaylife Lounge' hkoenig Posts: 123 Joined: June 20th, 2009, 11:40 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Here's a gun: Code: Select all x=35, y=38 4b2o$5bo$5bobo$6b2o2b2o$10b2o7$o$3o7b2o$3bo6bobo$2bobo7bo$2b2o6bobo$10b2o$2b
2o$2bo$3b3o$5bo$8b2o$9bo$6b3o14b3o$6bo15bo3bo$21bo5bo$13b2o6bo5bo$13b2o6b
3ob3o$31b2o$31bobo$12b2o19bo$13bo19b2o$10b3o16b2o$10bo13bo4bo$23bobobobo$22b
ob2ob2o$22bo$21b2o!

Edit: slightly smaller starting cell count. 92P46

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hkoenig wrote:Here's a gun:

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x=35, y=38
4b2o$5bo$5bobo$6b2o2b2o$10b2o7$o$3o7b2o$3bo6b2o$2bobo7bo$2b2o6b2o$10b2o$2b 2o$2bo$3b3o$5bo$8b2o$9bo$6b3o15bo$6bo16b3o$22b2ob2o$13b2o6b2o3b2o$13b2o7b 2ob2o$31b2o$31bobo$12b2o19bo$13bo19b2o$10b3o16b2o$10bo13bo4bo$23bobobobo$22b ob2ob2o$22bo$21b2o!  Nice! Looks like it won't be possible to improve on the old 49*16 two-twin-bees gun, though, at least if we go by bounding box as usual... unless, just possibly, there's a Bellman catalyst or some such that can convert a single oscillator's phi spark into a glider. EDIT: Sneaking in a celebratory HWSS gun here based on Kazyan's discovery above and Sokwe's discovery below, because it's not really interesting enough to get its own post: Code: Select all x = 114, y = 85, rule = LifeHistory 91.2A$91.A$85.2A.2A.A$84.A.A.A.A$65.2A17.A3.BA3.3B7.A$65.A17.2A2.4B. 5B4.3A$59.2A.2A.A13.2A6.10B3.A$58.A.A.A.A15.A7.B3A5B3.2A$58.A3.BA3.3B 7.A2.A.AB2.3BA12B$57.2A2.4B.5B4.3A3.2AB.4B3A8B$53.2A6.10B3.A8.16B2A$ 54.A7.9B3.2A7.16B2A$54.A.2A2.A5BA9B7.15B.B$55.A2B.ABA3BAB2A5B10.14B9. A$44.2A11.4BA3BA3BA3B2A11.10B9.3A$45.A11.5BABA4BA3B2A12.8B9.A$45.A.AB 8.2A4BA4B2A2B.B14.6B10.2A$46.2AB.2A6.BA7BA4B15.6B8.5B2.A$48.BA2BA7.BA 3BA4B18.5A7.4B4.3A$48.BA2B9.A3BA3B19.B3AB7.5B6.A$48.BA2BAB8.6B21.BAB 7.7B4.2A$45.5BAB2A7.B3A2B22.4B3.B.8B.2B$44.9BAB5.B.5B22.6B2A13B2A$44. 3B3A3B3A4.7B22.8BA11BA.A$44.6BA2BA3B3.6B22.6BA2BA6B2A3B.A$27.2A11.A4. 2B2AB2A14B21.7BABA7BABAB3.3A$27.A12.3A3.3B2AB2A12B20.4B4.10B3A2B4.A$ 19.A.2A.2A.A15.A.8BA2BA9B19.4B8.9BA3B$19.2A.A.A.A15.A.A6B2A4B2A7BA17. 4B10.12B$4.2A18.BA3.3B7.A2.2A9BA2BA3B4.3BA15.4B12.8B2AB$5.A17.4B.5B4. 3A5.2B.8B.B7.3AB13.ABAB14.7B2A$5.A.AB6.2A6.6B3AB3.A5.2A4.7B11.4B11.B 2AB15.6B$6.2AB.2A4.A7.4BA3BA3.2A4.A6.5B13.4B9.3BA18.4B$8.2B2AB3.A.AB 2.5B2A3BA5B5.3A4.4B14.4B7.4B18.B2A2B$8.4B5.2AB.5BAB2A6B9.A2.5B16.4B5. 4B20.2A.B2A$8.6B5.8BA7B2A11.2A20.4B3.4B24.BA.A$5.2A7B5.6BAB2ABA4B2A 12.A21.9B28.A$4.3BA7B4.5B3ABAB2A2B.B10.3A23.7B29.2A$4.B3A8B4.5BA3BABA 2B12.A25.6B$4.3B2A8B5.3B3ABA2B41.6B$A4.B2A12B3.5B2AB.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B. B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.A.B.B.B.B.B.3B.29B2A$3A3.2A2BA7BA43BA3BA40BA4BA$3.A. 3B2A6BAB2A4BABA13B5A22BA17B6A22BA$2.A.A11BABA6BA13BA4BA17BA4BA16BA5BA 16BA5BA$2.2A13BA2B4.BA18BA18B5A22BA17B6A$5.2B.8B.B6.15BA3BA40BA4BA22B $2.2A4.7B12.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.A.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.B.7B.7B2A22B$2. A6.5B56.9B$3.A6.4B28.A26.9B$2.2A4.5B29.3A23.4B.5B$8.2A35.A21.4B4.4B 26.A$9.A34.2A20.4B6.4B23.3A$6.3A32.A2.5B16.4B8.4B21.A$6.A32.3A4.4B14. 2A2B10.4B20.2A$38.A6.5B13.2B2A12.2B2A16.5B2.A$38.2A4.7B11.2BAB14.2A2B 14.4B4.3A$41.2B.8B.A7.4B16.BA2B13.5B6.A$38.2A7B3AB3A2B4.4B18.4B11.7B 4.2A$38.A.A6B6A10B20.4B7.B.8B.2B$39.A.6BAB2AB3A7B22.4B4.2BA13B2A$36. 3A3.3B4A4B2A7B23.8BABA11BA.A$36.A4.2B2ABAB2A2BA3B.5B24.7B3A6B2A3B.A$40.8B2A3B5.4B24.7BA7BA2BAB3.3A$40.2B2AB3AB2AB6.BA3B23.16BAB2AB4.A$40. 3ABA3BA2B7.3A2B23.4B5.9BA3B$41.7BAB7.B3A2B22.5B6.9BA2B$44.6B8.2B3AB 21.2BABA7.8B2AB$44.4B9.2BA3BAB20.B2ABAB7.7B2A$44.2B2AB7.3BA3BA2B18.A 3B2A8.6B$42.2AB.2A6.5B3ABA4B15.BA6B9.4B$41.A.AB8.5B2A2BA2B2AB.B12.6BA 3B7.B2A2B$41.A11.5B2A3B3A3B2A9.2BABA2B2A5B6.2A.B2A$40.2A11.6BA3B2A4B 2A7.B.BA2B2A2BA6B8.BA.A$51.2AB.15B7.2A3BA2BA2BA6B11.A$50.A.AB2.5B3A8B 5.2A5B2A2BA6B11.2A$50.A7.4BABA2B3.2A6.5BABA7B.B2A$49.2A6.5BA4B3.A5.7B 3A6B2.BA.A$53.2A2.4B.B3AB4.3A2.2A3.2B2A5B7.A$54.A3.BA3.3B7.A3.A3.10B 6.2A$54.A.A.A.A13.3A4.2A3B.4B2.2A$55.2A.2A.A9.3A8.BAB3.AB3.A$61.A9.A 2.A12.A.A.A.A$61.2A10.2A11.A.2A.2A$86.A$85.2A! #C [[ THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 2 GPS 10 ZOOM 5.5 AUTOSTART ]] drc Posts: 1664 Joined: December 3rd, 2015, 4:11 pm Location: creating useless things in OCA ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread hkoenig wrote:Here's a gun: Code: Select all x=35, y=38 4b2o$5bo$5bobo$6b2o2b2o$10b2o7$o$3o7b2o$3bo6bobo$2bobo7bo$2b2o6bobo$10b2o$2b
2o$2bo$3b3o$5bo$8b2o$9bo$6b3o14b3o$6bo15bo3bo$21bo5bo$13b2o6bo5bo$13b2o6b
3ob3o$31b2o$31bobo$12b2o19bo$13bo19b2o$10b3o16b2o$10bo13bo4bo$23bobobobo$22b
ob2ob2o$22bo$21b2o!

Edit: slightly smaller starting cell count. 92P46
Very nice! It yields these three other gun by turning around one or both oscillators, but that's a trivial observation on my behalf:

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x = 137, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
54b2o$55bo$6bo48bobo48bo$6b3o47b2o2b2o44b3o$9bo50b2o47bo$8b2o98b2o$2b
2o98b2o$3bo99bo$2bo99bo$2b2o98b2o$10b2o98b2o$2b2o6bobo37bo51b2o6bobo$
2bobo7bo37b3o7b2o40bobo7bo$3bo6bobo40bo6bobo40bo6bobo$3o7b2o40bobo7bo
37b3o7b2o$o51b2o6bobo37bo$60b2o$52b2o$52bo$53bo$52b2o$58b2o$10b2o47bo
50b2o$6b2o2b2o11b3o30b3o12b3o32b2o2b2o9b3o$5bobo14bo3bo29bo13bo3bo30bo
bo12bo3bo$5bo15bo5bo41bo5bo29bo13bo5bo$4b2o7b2o6bo5bo41bo5bo6b2o20b2o
13bo5bo6b2o$13b2o6b3ob3o41b3ob3o6b2o35b3ob3o6b2o$31b2o31b2o48b2o$31bob o29bobo47bobo$12b2o19bo29bo19b2o28bo19b2o$13bo19b2o27b2o19bo28b2o19bo$
10b3o71b3o47b3o$10bo13bo47bo13bo35bo13bo$23bobobob2o35b2obobobo42b2obo
bobo$22bob2ob2obo35bob2ob2obo41bob2ob2obo$22bo51bo49bo$21b2o51b2o48b2o !  \100\97\110\105 Kazyan Posts: 937 Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread dvgrn wrote:Nice! Looks like it won't be possible to improve on the old 49*16 two-twin-bees gun, though, at least if we go by bounding box as usual... unless, just possibly, there's a Bellman catalyst or some such that can convert a single oscillator's phi spark into a glider. I'd bet more on a lucky p4/6/8 sparker interacting in just the right way to make a p92/138/184. Speaking of p138, maybe try rubbing Gabriel's p138 up on it. Tanner Jacobi A for awesome Posts: 1950 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Contact: ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Kazyan wrote:I'd bet more on a lucky p4/6/8 sparker interacting in just the right way to make a p92/138/184. Speaking of p138, maybe try rubbing Gabriel's p138 up on it. I tried a non-exhaustive manual search for something p4 or p6 earlier, but the only thing that came up was a p6 placement that released a glider on one cycle but blew up the next. It's possible there's something that works among the arrangements that I didn't try, or that there's a p8 or 138 placement that would work, or even a transparent catalysis -- I looked preliminarily at that option earlier and didn't find anything, but my manual search was shallow and nowhere near exhaustive. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1626 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Here's another gun: Code: Select all x = 40, y = 29, rule = B3/S23 6bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$2bo$2b2o2$2b2o7bobo2bobo$2bobo6bo2bo3bo$3bo 5b2o3bobobo$3o7b3obo$o6b2o5b2o8b3o$7b2o4b2o8bo3bo$7b2o3bo9bo5bo$7b2obo
bo8bo3bo3bo$7b2obobo8bo7bo5b2o$21bobo3bobo5b2o$17b2o3b2o3b2o$10b2o4bob
o$6b2o2b2o4bo19b2o$5bobo7b2o19bo$5bo31b3o$4b2o19bo13bo$19b2obobobo$19b
ob2ob2obo$27bo$27b2o!
-Matthias Merzenich

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Astounding!

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Sokwe wrote:Here's another gun:

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WOWOWOW

I thought it was just another glider gun!!
LIFE JUST GOT REAL
Do we need another wiki page? Matthias' Torpedo Launcher?
Also, is this the FIRST GLIDERLESS MWSS GUN??
Airy Clave White It Nay

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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!  (Check gen 2) Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1626 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Saka wrote:is this the FIRST GLIDERLESS MWSS GUN?? No: Code: Select all x = 44, y = 51, rule = B3/S23 17b2o6b2o$17b2o6b2o7$b2o38b2o$obo38bobo$obob2o32b2obobo$bobobo32bobobo
$3bo36bo$bo2bo13b2o4b2o13bo2bo$4bo12bobo4bobo12bo$o3bo12bo8bo12bo3bo$o 3bo12bobo4bobo12bo3bo$4bo13b2o4b2o13bo$bo2bo34bo2bo$3bo36bo$bobobo32bo bobo$obob2o32b2obobo$obo38bobo$b2o25bo12b2o$26b2o2bobo$28bo2bobo$30b2o$15b2o$16bo$13b3o$13bo8bo4bo6b2o$18b2o2bo3bobo5bobo$18bo7bobo7bo$19bo
3bo3b2o7b2o$23bo5$31b5o$30bo4bo$35bo$30bo3bo$32bo$23bob2o$21b3ob2o$20b o$21b3ob2o$23bobo$23bobo$24bo! Saka wrote:Do we need another wiki page? None of the guns should get their own pages. They should instead be included in the gallery on the page for the oscillator. -Matthias Merzenich Cclee Posts: 56 Joined: October 5th, 2017, 9:51 pm Location: de internet ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Dang this is a good new osc ^ What ever up there likely useless Scorbie Posts: 1445 Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Wow... Congrats for Kazyan and Sokwe! Isn't this a new record for the smallest *WSS gun? Best wishes to you, Scorbie Naszvadi Posts: 432 Joined: May 7th, 2016, 8:53 am Contact: ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Sokwe wrote:Here's another gun: Code: Select all x = 40, y = 29, rule = B3/S23 6bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$2bo$2b2o2$2b2o7bobo2bobo$2bobo6bo2bo3bo$3bo 5b2o3bobobo$3o7b3obo$o6b2o5b2o8b3o$7b2o4b2o8bo3bo$7b2o3bo9bo5bo$7b2obo
bo8bo3bo3bo$7b2obobo8bo7bo5b2o$21bobo3bobo5b2o$17b2o3b2o3b2o$10b2o4bob
o$6b2o2b2o4bo19b2o$5bobo7b2o19bo$5bo31b3o$4b2o19bo13bo$19b2obobobo$19b
ob2ob2obo$27bo$27b2o!
Compatible rules are: B3/S23 - B34e8/S234c6i8. Sorry to cut&paste the full pattern, but this belongs to my favourite patterns from now! Even new banners, displays are possible with smaller elements using the above component.

Congrats to Sokwe et al, jolly astounding!

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Nice work Kazyan and Sokwe!

@Kazyan this is the second time recently (out of many more times), that a discovery of yours has sparked a lot of discussion and discoveries!

I spent a long time applying many tricks to try and reduce the synthesis from 19 gliders without success. The trick that got the closest was making the carrier/snake + junk in 3 gliders, and using the junk + 2 gliders to make a pi.This is one of the close calls (the reaction was found with gencols):

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x = 44, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
40bo$38bobo$o38b2o$3o11bo$3bo8bobo26b3o$2b2o9b2o28bo$42bo$22b2o$3b2o
17bo2bo$3b2o9b2o8b2o11b2o$13bobo3bo16bobo$15bo2bobo17bo$18bobo$19bo! A general method I tried that someone else might be able to get to work, is to use one glider to collide with the junk and create a spark which reacts with another glider to create the pi in the right spot: Code: Select all x = 72, y = 35, rule = B3/S23 11b2o38b2o$12bo39bo$12bob2ob2obo31bob2ob2obo$13bobobob2o32bobobob2o$o 13bo25bo13bo$3o37b3o$3bo39bo$2b2o38b2o$13bo$14b2o6b2obo$3b2o8b2o7bob2o 17b2o$3b2o38b2o$15bo$55b2o2b2o$56b2obobo$55bo3bo17$70bo$69b2o$69bobo! The block can also be replaced with a few different 2G constellations for no extra cost. Can anyone else reduce the synthesis? Gamedziner Posts: 796 Joined: May 30th, 2016, 8:47 pm Location: Milky Way Galaxy: Planet Earth ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Smallest phase for gun (not including ships produced) Code: Select all x = 40, y = 29, rule = B3/S23 6bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$2bo$2b2o$10b2o$2b2o6bobo$2bobo7bo$3bo6bobo$3o7b2o$o4$35b2o$35b2o$17b2o7b2o$10b2o4bobo6b2o$6b2o2b2o4bo9b2o8b2o$5bo
bo7b2o19bo$5bo31b3o$4b2o19bo13bo$19b2obobobo$19bob2ob2obo$27bo$27b2o!

EDIT: The chain of ships can act as a wick, destroying the gun and leaving tons of periodic ash:

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x = 2235, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
6bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$2bo$2b2o$64b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b
3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b
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3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o$2b2o13b o25b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b 5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b 5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b 5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b 5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b 5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b 5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o$2bobo11bob2o
4b3o13b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o
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17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob2o17b3ob
2o24b3o$3bo3b3o8b2o5bo14b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b 2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b 2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b 2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b 2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b 2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b 2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b2o18b5o21b 2o18b5o$3o3bo2bo7b3o21b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o
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43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o43b3o$o25b4o$5bo2bo16b3ob
o$29bobo$7bo16bo3bo2bo$6bo17b2o2bob2o3b2o$35b2o$17b2o7bo2bo$10b2o4bobo
$6b2o2b2o4bo10b2obobo3b2o$5bobo7b2o12b3o4bo$5bo24bo6b3o$4b2o19bo13bo$19b2obobobo$19bob2ob2obo$27bo$27b2o!

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x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27. A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A\$8.2A!


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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Sokwe wrote:
Saka wrote:is this the FIRST GLIDERLESS MWSS GUN??
No:
...but is it the smallest such gun?
Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace!